Window Cleaner Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 - for the PL - terrible dodgy YouTube stream then cut out. (From Twitter henceforth) - We need more sharpness in the box; our goalscoring problems are a team issue, not just one player. - Koeman is not worried about lack of goals and chances. Don't bother going back to watch the video of that press conference - sound quality was awful. If he's not worried about it (and he should be) why does he speak of it just beforehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 If he's not worried about it (and he should be) why does he speak of it just beforehand? He said he's "not worried" in the sense that he's confident that he and the team can turn it around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 If he's not worried about it (and he should be) why does he speak of it just beforehand? Because he's confident that we'll find our goalscoring mojo again, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 Because he's confident that we'll find our goalscoring mojo again, presumably. Ah magic wand job, see it now. Should have bought a bit more oofle dust in the January window perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 [video=youtube_share;Qrt8X200RRg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 Berahino would be a big miss for them, although Ideye has really picked up recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 Was there a (possibly tongue-in-cheek) reference to managing England one day? I was having a KFC in Cobham services at the time and they had Sky Sports News on a big screen with automatic subtitles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 (edited) Let the interviewer finish his bloody question... Edited 26 February, 2015 by jasonb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 Have a feeling another 1-0 or 0-1 coming up.. Which way who knows, but I doubt this wil be a thriller!! We need a win, don't care how it comes, just win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 February, 2015 Share Posted 26 February, 2015 I assume from that interview that Pelle is undroppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 I assume from that interview that Pelle is undroppable. Unless he's late for the team meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Unless he's late for the team meeting. And even then if he can convince RK that he was waiting for his hairdresser from Holland he might get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 I assume from that interview that Pelle is undroppable. Isn't that a given considering he is our only striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Isn't that a given considering he is our only striker Exactly. Who on earth would we drop him for? Long? On his own up top? No thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Exactly. Who on earth would we drop him for? Long? On his own up top? No thanks! Combination of Long and Mané perhaps, other teams get by without an 8ft 6 hulk to punt the ball at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 0-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Combination of Long and Mané perhaps, other teams get by without an 8ft 6 hulk to punt the ball at. But we play with inside forwards who rely on a target man to base their movement off and create space for them. Play two mobile strikers and we need to be more clever in the final third and also have creativity in the middle - both are a big issue for us. Pelle is important for us even though he is well out of form with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 But we play with inside forwards who rely on a target man to base their movement off and create space for them. Play two mobile strikers and we need to be more clever in the final third and also have creativity in the middle - both are a big issue for us. Pelle is important for us even though he is well out of form with the ball. use a plan B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 use a plan B? Absolutely, Pellè has been a true waste of space these last few games, predictable and slow and has acquired the dubious honour of being the PL player who has committed the most handballs so far this season. He's a dud who's been found out and now we need to try something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 A Pulis side strikes me as one that would be happy if we launched the ball to Pelle. Lately, he provided little movement and tries flicks and lay offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 use a plan B? What would that be with the personnel we have? You change one part of the team and it impacts the other by default. You need all three units on the pitch to work in harmony the way Koeman sets us up. We've seen a few different formations which reflect different plans but the work in the final third in all of them needs a central striker from which others feed from - either with out without the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 What would that be with the personnel we have? You change one part of the team and it impacts the other by default. You need all three units on the pitch to work in harmony the way Koeman sets us up. We've seen a few different formations which reflect different plans but the work in the final third in all of them needs a central striker from which others feed from - either with out without the ball. i didnt realise I had to suggest something. We have a good manager. will see what he does someone has already suggest long with mane supporting him and not go direct like we do to pelle...especially against WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Causer Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 A Pulis side strikes me as one that would be happy if we launched the ball to Pelle. Lately, he provided little movement and tries flicks and lay offs. Agreed. Lump the ball up in the direction of Pelle as we did Saturday and Lescott will win it every time. However he is very vulnerable to players running in behind, even Danny Graham nearly won a penalty against him that way at the weekend!! Long is a much better fit for a game like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 i didnt realise I had to suggest something. We have a good manager. will see what he does someone has already suggest long with mane supporting him and not go direct like we do to pelle...especially against WBA It seems a little silly to suggest something without being able to understand whether or not it is possible. Or at least show the ability to think about it a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 (edited) It seems a little silly to suggest something without being able to understand whether or not it is possible. Or at least show the ability to think about it a little. OK, I agree that trying a more mobile front like of Long, with Mane supporting him Get tadic back in the side. I think going direct to Pelle is exactly what WBA will be hoping we do] On reflection.... ------------forster clyne--fonte-----yoshida--bertrand -----wanyama--schneiderlin Mane-----Djuricic------Tadic ----------Long the 3 behind long supporting him and offer more potency in the box with long moving along their back line and aiming to pull their CBs out of position. Edited 27 February, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 OK, I agree that trying a more mobile front like of Long, with Mane supporting him Get tadic back in the side. I think going direct to Pelle is exactly what WBA will be hoping we do] On reflection.... ------------forster clyne--fonte-----yoshida--bertrand -----wanyama--schneiderlin Mane-----Djuricic------Tadic ----------Long the 3 behind long supporting him and offer more potency in the box with long moving along their back line and aiming to pull their CBs out of position. Whatever, we need to stop this atrocious punting the ball forward, top teams don't do it, nor should we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Saints just put a picture on Facebook of Toby in training. Hopefully he'll play on Saturday, having said that Yoshida's not done anything wrong to be dropped so could go back to a back three with wing backs? Seemed to work quite well when we've played it. Is this still the injury Toby picked up at Old Trafford or has he come back and had another one since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Saints just put a picture on Facebook of Toby in training. Hopefully he'll play on Saturday, having said that Yoshida's not done anything wrong to be dropped so could go back to a back three with wing backs? Seemed to work quite well when we've played it. Is this still the injury Toby picked up at Old Trafford or has he come back and had another one since then? Did not Koeman say that Toby won't play tomorrow but probably will on Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Did not Koeman say that Toby won't play tomorrow but probably will on Tuesday? Yep, although I guess there's an outside chance he might make the bench if no reaction to training today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Yep, although I guess there's an outside chance he might make the bench if no reaction to training today. Although....anyone see Clyne in those images ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Although....anyone see Clyne in those images ? Nope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Although....anyone see Clyne in those images ? Or any headless torso's running around - but that could be Clyne or Spiderman ut seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 4-0 saints. Easy win. Scorers? or are you anticipating a lot of own goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Whatever, we need to stop this atrocious punting the ball forward, top teams don't do it, nor should we. Man Utd do. OK, you're right they are not a top team any more :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Man Utd do. OK, you're right they are not a top team any more :-) Absolutely correct, they're only in the top 4 because we punt the ball forward so much as not to be able to score against West Ham and Swansea of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 OK, I agree that trying a more mobile front like of Long, with Mane supporting him Get tadic back in the side. I think going direct to Pelle is exactly what WBA will be hoping we do] On reflection.... ------------forster clyne--fonte-----yoshida--bertrand -----wanyama--schneiderlin Mane-----Djuricic------Tadic ----------Long the 3 behind long supporting him and offer more potency in the box with long moving along their back line and aiming to pull their CBs out of position. Long has been bad in every game he has played up front on his own. I fully appreciate Pelle is well out of form and also looks knackered to me (they are probably related a bit as well) however his presence is important to the team. He drops deep and Mane and Elia bomb on. It's very simple but the pace of Elia and Mane mean it is hard to stop. What I would do is like to give Pelle more support with players close to him when he has the ball. Many times he drops deeper to get the ball but when he gets to him there is only one option to lay it off to. I would like to see this: ------------forster clyne--fonte-----yoshida--bertrand -----wanyama--schneiderlin Davis--------------------------Tadic ------Mane ------------Pelle Mane is in and around Pelle rather than coming out to in. Tadic and Davis start wide but come inside to allow full-backs to bomb on and have licence themselves to get into the box as Vic and Morgan are covering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Are West Brom going to come out and play from the start or sit deep and hit us on the break? Seems like a no brainer to me but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 OK, I agree that trying a more mobile front like of Long, with Mane supporting him Get tadic back in the side. I think going direct to Pelle is exactly what WBA will be hoping we do] On reflection.... ------------forster clyne--fonte-----yoshida--bertrand -----wanyama--schneiderlin Mane-----Djuricic------Tadic ----------Long the 3 behind long supporting him and offer more potency in the box with long moving along their back line and aiming to pull their CBs out of position. I'd play Davis instead of Djuricic. Totally agree about playing Long instead of Pelle. The added incentive of getting one over one of your old teams always helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Note that Toby is featured prominently in today's training gallery headlined "final preparations for the Baggies" on the OS. Seems odd that he is heavily involved in "final preparations" given that Ron said he would not be ready. Guessing he may be on the bench after all (don't see any reason to risk him in place of Yoshida). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Note that Toby is featured prominently in today's training gallery headlined "final preparations for the Baggies" on the OS. Seems odd that he is heavily involved in "final preparations" given that Ron said he would not be ready. Guessing he may be on the bench after all (don't see any reason to risk him in place of Yoshida). But Clyne seems to be absent from the photies today, appears in the S Davis video though but then again so does the leapfrog from Wednesday's session. Bit of a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Play without a recognised striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 But Clyne seems to be absent from the photies today, appears in the S Davis video though but then again so does the leapfrog from Wednesday's session. Bit of a mystery. Clyne had a meeting with his agent to discuss which club to join in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 Play without a recognised striker. We've been doing that for weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 There is a pub in Shoreditch East London called The Albion (Goldsmith Row) which will be showing the game live at 3pm if anyone is interested.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 27 February, 2015 Share Posted 27 February, 2015 We've been doing that for weeks. 1 goal in February is testiment to that. Lets hope March treats us better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 28 February, 2015 Share Posted 28 February, 2015 Preview: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?581-PREVIEW-West-Bromwich-Albion-vs-SAINTS-Barclays-Premier-League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 February, 2015 Share Posted 28 February, 2015 Anyone hear LvG tripe about united do not have a 20 goal-a-season striker he has, just he is playing one in central midfield and the others are getting woefully used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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