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BARCELONASAINT

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Brilliant win by the Lionesses, that never say die spirit that has been there since game 2 of the tournament has seen them incredibly retain their crown when multiple times they looked dead and buried. As we all know in football the best footballing team do not always win. Spain were the better footballing side but a mixture of poor finishing and excellent defending by England made sure we were still there to take it to penalties. I must admit my heart sunk when the first one had to be retaken and the retake was saved but what was i worrying about. Up stepped the brilliant Hampton to make those saves and then the star girl Chloe Kelly stepped forward to blast the last spot kick home and send millions around the country into delirium. WOW what a womens team we have, couldn't be prouder of them.

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saintant

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6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Holy shit. Did Lucy Bronze just say she's played the whole tournament with a fractured tibia!? 

Wow.

The reserve full back must be pretty shit!

Badger

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2 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Williamson is a proper fitty. Nice to listen to a footballer that’s quite articulate too.

A lot of them are. More so than most of the blokes (although some of the girls purposely seem to lapse into ‘bloke football speak’ ).

Michelle Agyemang has spoken well in interviews when I’ve heard her. 

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Badger

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6 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Williamson is a proper fitty. Nice to listen to a footballer that’s quite articulate too.

No mention of “coming home” bollocks either 

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Patches O Houlihan

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23 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Holy shit. Did Lucy Bronze just say she's played the whole tournament with a fractured tibia!? 

Wow.

16 minutes ago, saintant said:

The reserve full back must be pretty shit!

Didn't one of the pundits say that winning the Euros again tonight was Lucy Bronze's 25th trophy?! - That's mental. No wonder they let her play with a broken leg.

Patches O Houlihan

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40 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

Didn't one of the pundits say that winning the Euros again tonight was Lucy Bronze's 25th trophy?! - That's mental. No wonder they let her play with a broken leg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Bronze

If you count all the adult trophies starting in 2009 I make it 36 trophies. Including 5x Champions League (Lyon & Barcelona), 4x WSL (Liverpool, Man City & Chelsea), plus Euro 2022 & 2025 and a World Cup final.

140 England caps including 20 goals mostly from right back

She appears to have done all of this whilst being continuously injured; surgeons advising her that she would need to retire at 27. She is 33.

She grew up on Lindisfarne island with a Portuguese father and speaks 4 languages. She was county champion at tennis, hockey and football. She also made national finals at pentathlon and cross country. Oh, and she is AuDHD too.

After the win when she was dancing on one leg with her injured knee raised she would have been bouncing on the leg with the fractured tibia...

Fair play 👍

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John Boy Saint

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28 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

What a great night, that team has got more fight than an Oasis soundcheck.

Nice to see some proper winners in England shirts.

You have to hope it gives the men the kick up their Prima Donna arses they need. 

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Andrew Watson

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Perhaps if the men played for the same money as the women [ Internationals only ],they would play with the same pride and heart ]. The better team lost,but Englands defence was magnificent on the night.

Turkish

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7 hours ago, benjii said:

Lol. Some Dago has to go up for a player of the tourney award.

Careful some might be logging into chat gbt with that comment 

calling @Sheaf Saint to the thread to be suitably offended 

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East Kent Saint

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6 hours ago, Turkish said:

Careful some might be logging into chat gbt with that comment 

calling @Sheaf Saint to the thread to be suitably offended 

The meaning of DAGO is —used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a person of Italian or Spanish birth or descent.

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13 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Williamson is a proper fitty. Nice to listen to a footballer that’s quite articulate too.

Not as fit as her girlfriend,

steve green

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Ok, I'll say it. After a day of hearing how the England team are superwomen, popping off to sort the middle east out and making  lepers whole again through a touch of their hand . . . . .

 

It was a shit game. The levels of skill variable and apart from the 3-4 top teams rather poor through the tournament

I'm pleased England won and hope it further raises the profile of the woman's game. But I wish they'd stop trying to ape the worst aspects of the men's game. Confabulating the history and achievements of the men and women's game is pathetic and pointless.

 

So well done but some perspective please. Bank holiday? FFS, we should've got one of them for getting 12points.

 

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pingpong

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Bank Holiday if we win the world cup I think, not for euros.

Not comparable to the men's game, this one was actually fun to watch and we won.  Watching England men is like watching saints, just self punishment and a continual let down.

sfc4prem

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34 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

More power in the women's game than the men's these days. #itscomehomeagain

I mean, you only need to look at Cucurella to see there's more steel and power in the women's game 😉

Turkish

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5 hours ago, steve green said:

Ok, I'll say it. After a day of hearing how the England team are superwomen, popping off to sort the middle east out and making  lepers whole again through a touch of their hand . . . . .

 

It was a shit game. The levels of skill variable and apart from the 3-4 top teams rather poor through the tournament

I'm pleased England won and hope it further raises the profile of the woman's game. But I wish they'd stop trying to ape the worst aspects of the men's game. Confabulating the history and achievements of the men and women's game is pathetic and pointless.

 

So well done but some perspective please. Bank holiday? FFS, we should've got one of them for getting 12points.

 

There is a lot of truth in what you say. It’s like winning the rugby or cricket World Cup, it’s a great achievement and should be celebrated but the reality is you probably need to only beat 2-3 good teams to win it. 
 

I loved it when England won the cricket and rugby World Cup, brilliant, dramatic matches and although I missed the game yesterday was pleased they won it but quite simply winning the football euros or World Cup is much, much tougher thing to do. Most teams are no pushovers once you get to the knockouts and tournament football is a completely different ball game, it’s rarely the best team that win it but usually the one with the best squad, most resilience and team spirit. 
 

people moaning about Chloe Kelly not starting but the fact of the matter is she’s been the star of the tournament being a sub, which proves the point. Winning tournaments is not about picking the best team but having a squad which allows you to make those sort of changes. I’d wager England wouldn’t have won it had they started her and our striker friend in every game. 

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Holmes_and_Watson

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

There is a lot of truth in what you say. It’s like winning the rugby or cricket World Cup, it’s a great achievement and should be celebrated but the reality is you probably need to only beat 2-3 good teams to win it. 
 

I loved it when England won the cricket and rugby World Cup, brilliant, dramatic matches and although I missed the game yesterday was pleased they won it but quite simply winning the football euros or World Cup is much, much tougher thing to do. Most teams are no pushovers once you get to the knockouts and tournament football is a completely different ball game, it’s rarely the best team that win it but usually the one with the best squad, most resilience and team spirit. 
 

people moaning about Chloe Kelly not starting but the fact of the matter is she’s been the star of the tournament being a sub, which proves the point. Winning tournaments is not about picking the best team but having a squad which allows you to make those sort of changes. I’d wager England wouldn’t have won it had they started her and our striker friend in every game. 

Just as recently as the last Euros, the same starting arguments were there when Ellen White started and it was Russo coming off the bench. Toone was also a sub then. It was all part of Wiegman's preferred plan, and team balance.

 

sadoldgit

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You really do have a problem with women don’t you. Typically you are an expert on what it takes to win competitions yet you didn’t even watch yesterday’s match. Any team who wins any competition deserves it just by virtue of the fact that they have won when they have needed to, be they men or women. The fact that the women’s team have won more competitions than the men’s team should be applauded. Do you know their names yet or are you still using lazy Duckhunter type labels?

As for Chloe Kelly, she was by far the most effective crosser of the ball in the England squad and also one of the most assured penalty takers. We looked  better team with her on the pitch. The idea that England would not have won the trophy if she had started is just utter nonsense. The truth is we will never know, but it is just as likely that we would not have had to fight so hard in the earlier knock out rounds and would have been fresher for the final. Given her performances and experience at this level it is not at all unreasonable to expect a player of her caliber to start matches, especially as another attacking option, Lauren James, was clearly struggling for fitness.

 

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Saint_clark

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9 hours ago, steve green said:

Ok, I'll say it. After a day of hearing how the England team are superwomen, popping off to sort the middle east out and making  lepers whole again through a touch of their hand . . . . .

 

It was a shit game. The levels of skill variable and apart from the 3-4 top teams rather poor through the tournament

I'm pleased England won and hope it further raises the profile of the woman's game. But I wish they'd stop trying to ape the worst aspects of the men's game. Confabulating the history and achievements of the men and women's game is pathetic and pointless.

 

So well done but some perspective please. Bank holiday? FFS, we should've got one of them for getting 12points.

 

"Well done but know your place, don't get over excited".

How about you stop watching and talking about it if you aren't going to enjoy it? 

Turkish

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30 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You really do have a problem with women don’t you. Typically you are an expert on what it takes to win competitions yet you didn’t even watch yesterday’s match. Any team who wins any competition deserves it just by virtue of the fact that they have won when they have needed to, be they men or women. The fact that the women’s team have won more competitions than the men’s team should be applauded. Do you know their names yet or are you still using lazy Duckhunter type labels?

As for Chloe Kelly, she was by far the most effective crosser of the ball in the England squad and also one of the most assured penalty takers. We looked  better team with her on the pitch. The idea that England would not have won the trophy if she had started is just utter nonsense. The truth is we will never know, but it is just as likely that we would not have had to fight so hard in the earlier knock out rounds and would have been fresher for the final. Given her performances and experience at this level it is not at all unreasonable to expect a player of her caliber to start matches, especially as another attacking option, Lauren James, was clearly struggling for fitness.

 

You really didn’t understand anything of what I’d posted did you, such was your desperation to have a pop. quite simply one of the most desperately embarrassing posts you’ve ever made. Imagine being so bitter and stupid you confuse a post which is a compliment to an attack on women 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Turkish

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48 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Just as recently as the last Euros, the same starting arguments were there when Ellen White started and it was Russo coming off the bench. Toone was also a sub then. It was all part of Wiegman's preferred plan, and team balance.

 

Sog laughing and desperately trying to have a go which is quite frankly embarrassing for him 

the post was actually a compliment to the depth of the squad and the managers tactics. Kelly was hero despite being a sub, showing that the squad, tactics and substitute were absolutely spot from the manager and shows the depth in quality that they had. The point being would Kelly have been as effective if she’d starter every game, rather than used as a game changer? Possibly not, for one fatigue is a big factor in tournaments if she’d played every minute of every game would she still be putting in quality crosses  late on in a final having played 3 league games and 3 120 minute knock outs in 3 weeks. Possibly not. What it did mean though was she was fresh to make a difference in tights games when it mattered and she did. 

it was also was a compliment to the team spirit, tactics, squad depth, good subs. All the things needed to win a tournament. Quite often the best team on paper don’t win the tournament. England men got the euro final despite being shit in every game for example. We won it the tactics and selections were spot on yet in SOG bitter little world where he had achieved so little it as all a dig at women and Chloe Kelly what a fool 😂😂😂😂😂

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Holmes_and_Watson

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8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Sog laughing and desperately trying to have a go which is quite frankly embarrassing for him 

the post was actually a compliment to the depth of the squad and the managers tactics. Kelly was hero despite being a sub, showing that the squad, tactics and substitute were absolutely spot from the manager and shows the depth in quality that they had. The point being would Kelly have been as effective if she’d starter every game, rather than used as a game changer? Possibly not, for one fatigue is a big factor in tournaments if she’d played every minute of every game would she still be putting in quality crosses after late on in a fi al having played 3 league games and 3 120 knock outs in 3 weeek. Possibly not

it was also was a compliment to the team spirit. All the things needed to win a tournament. Quite often the best team on paper don’t win the tournament. England men got the euro final despite being shit in every game for example 

yet in SOG bittter little world where he had achieved so little it as all a dig at women and Chloe Kelly 😂😂😂😂😂

SOG managing to switch from it being "utter nonsense" to  "the truth is we will never know." in the space of a sentence, doesn't suggest someone with a strong grasp of anything.

England have Russo, Hemp, Kelly, James, Mead, Agyemang and Beaver Jones as all very capable finishers. Toone is also there in support.

It's been a fantastic achievement that, for years, the squad have been there for each other. They all work well within Wiegman's plans, where she looks to balance her side, with the players trusted to interchange when needed, and with the bench to then exploit and maximise impact.

The whole squad continue to do a tremendous job. It seems needlessly critical to point out a player, like Kelly, who has made a massive impact, against others who work so hard in other roles in the team.

Turkish

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15 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

SOG managing to switch from it being "utter nonsense" to  "the truth is we will never know." in the space of a sentence, doesn't suggest someone with a strong grasp of anything.

England have Russo, Hemp, Kelly, James, Mead, Agyemang and Beaver Jones as all very capable finishers. Toone is also there in support.

It's been a fantastic achievement that, for years, the squad have been there for each other. They all work well within Wiegman's plans, where she looks to balance her side, with the players trusted to interchange when needed, and with the bench to then exploit and maximise impact.

The whole squad continue to do a tremendous job. It seems needlessly critical to point out a player, like Kelly, who has made a massive impact, against others who work so hard in other roles in the team.

Exactly. Said it a few times now tournament football is a squad game. The manager got it spot on. People were moaning Kelly should start etc but the fact is she came on as sub and made an impact in every game and had left the tournament with a winners medal and with her stock never higher. 
 

im stil laughing that the dopey old fool took the post as me having a problem with women when I quite clearly said she was the star of the tournament and teams that win tournament's are the ones they use their squad the best and have the best team spirit. What an attack on them. 😂😂😂😂
 

 

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steve green

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7 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

"Well done but know your place, don't get over excited".

How about you stop watching and talking about it if you aren't going to enjoy it? 

 

What a sexist thing to say, or assume another's attitudes through a distorted prism.

I, for example, thought most of the games were poor from a football perspective but because England were involved a better watch (for example) than the recent England men's games, now they were bad!

 

It's more some of the media response which has continued the hyperbole driven coverage all football increasingly gets these days. 

 

Rather than claim Kelly (my player of the tournament btw for her crossing ability alone) is better than Beckham, just state what is true. She's a bloody good footballer, no need to turn it into a gender driven competition. That to me feels more condescending than flattering.

 

I may be wrong or (almost certainly) not explaining myself well but jumping to instant judgement probably doesn't help. 

 

Saint_clark

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1 minute ago, steve green said:

 

What a sexist thing to say, or assume another's attitudes through a distorted prism.

 

I may be wrong or (almost certainly) not explaining myself well but jumping to instant judgement probably doesn't help. 

 

It's what you said paraphrased. The actual quote, "so well done but some perspective please", isn't much better. 

If England men won the euros or world cup do you think any of us would care about perspective? No, we'd be celebrating like it was the end of the war we wouldn't be saying "well actually as a spectacle it was a pretty poor game". 

 

Hence my reply - if you can't just enjoy England winning a major trophy, maybe don't bother watching. 

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AlexLaw76

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I heard that the Lionesses are championed for being the first ever mens or women's football team to win a trophy abroad.

I guess Lee Carsley's team do not matter these days?

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Sarnia Cherie

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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I heard that the Lionesses are championed for being the first ever mens or women's football team to win a trophy abroad.

I guess Lee Carsley's team do not matter these days?

Fair point.

steve green

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3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I heard that the Lionesses are championed for being the first ever mens or women's football team to win a trophy abroad.

I guess Lee Carsley's team do not matter these days?

Doesn't fit the agenda. Sad.

 

 

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Holmes_and_Watson

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3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I heard that the Lionesses are championed for being the first ever mens or women's football team to win a trophy abroad.

I guess Lee Carsley's team do not matter these days?

I heard them mention that not long after the pens. It came across as prepped well in advance and was clunky.

Not because I remembered Carsley, as I didn't. But the women's team did fantastically well, and had no need for clumsily pitching them with the men's team.

Just another reason to avoid the hacks and the commentators.

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Any chance the BBC and Sky presenters covering the victory parade could stop squealing as loudly as possible into their microphones...? The "blonde white bird" on the BBC is particularly ear-piercing. 

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7 minutes ago, trousers said:

Any chance the BBC and Sky presenters covering the victory parade could stop squealing as loudly as possible into their microphones...? The "blonde white bird" on the BBC is particularly ear-piercing. 

Listen to Joey Bartons commentary instead

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Saint_clark

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14 minutes ago, trousers said:

Any chance the BBC and Sky presenters covering the victory parade could stop squealing as loudly as possible into their microphones...? The "blonde white bird" on the BBC is particularly ear-piercing. 

Got someone trying to do her best Terry Wogan at Eurovision impression now, speaking softly and pausing every three or four words. Just talk normally for god sake. 

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