Rupert Lowe

[East Kent Saint]

How long before GYFC say they haven't actually received any £ 🙂

[Tamesaint]

3 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

He hasn't been paid a penny yet, what he has said is that he will donate roughly £4k to Gt Yarmouth Town FC. He is basing this on estimated nett monthly salary for an MP. Not knocking him, I detest the gammon, but fair play he has made a gesture and is sticking to his word with a promise up front to the the football club, which will help them with their finances and planning. 

I bet he insists on them starting a radio station and improving the catering. 

[Kristian Loekkegaard]

On 05/07/2024 at 11:31, lambtiss said:

Err, he comfortably will be. Whenever I saw him, I thought that a village somewhere was missing its idiot.

😆  I never liked Ruperts haircut which reminded me of Ruprecht from "Dirty, rotten scoundrels".

[suewhistle]

Now featuring in the latest 'Private Eye' in their series on new MPs. Dishonourable mention of his time at Southampton and talk of terrace chants (but not the 'Swing Lowe' one). His latest antics also feature, and one can imagine which contributors on this forum would approve!

[miserableoldgit]

On 06/07/2024 at 18:31, JRM said:

I'd love to see him up against Lammy in a debate, would be a straight sets win for the ex-Saint 👍

 

I think that the Black Chair has a bigger IQ than Lammy......

[trousers]

 

 

[Matthew Le God]

He ran the holding company into administration and close to financial ruin! Not sure he should be giving them advice!

[washsaint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

He ran the holding company into administration and close to financial ruin! Not sure he should be giving them advice!

Selective history there......i was Wilde and co that drove SFC to the birnk of oblivion and Lowe came back to try and mend it all (but was unsuccessful).

And he's quite right - that is discrimination and the whole DEI woke mindset is an absolute travesty.  Hire people based on their merits.

[CB Fry]

9 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

Imagine getting that riled up by "we particularly welcome" , the flimsiest fig leaf imaginable.

Rupert doesn't need to worry, the club will mainly recruit his pwecious discriminated-against helpless lickle white men.

Edited Tuesday at 17:57 by CB Fry

[Gloucester Saint]

50 minutes ago, washsaint said:

Selective history there......i was Wilde and co that drove SFC to the birnk of oblivion and Lowe came back to try and mend it all (but was unsuccessful).

And he's quite right - that is discrimination and the whole DEI woke mindset is an absolute travesty.  Hire people based on their merits.

Yes, I agree let’s get the best people, which includes reasonable adjustments for talented neurodiverse people for example so an interview becomes an assessment of mutual aims and someone’s true ability not a memory test. Or when two candidates are neck and neck, reflecting the diversity of my city of my birth (a seaport) in some appointments. Our fanbase is more diverse now.

Edited Tuesday at 18:46 by Gloucester Saint

[Pamplemousse]

56 minutes ago, washsaint said:

Selective history there......i was Wilde and co that drove SFC to the birnk of oblivion and Lowe came back to try and mend it all (but was unsuccessful).

And he's quite right - that is discrimination and the whole DEI woke mindset is an absolute travesty.  Hire people based on their merits.

Selective history indeed... Lowe's second stint destroyed the club. It was Leon Crouch who tried to mend things.

Anyway if it wasn't for Lowe, we wouldn't have got Liebherr so in some respects we should be grateful. 

Edited Tuesday at 18:53 by Pamplemousse

[Gloucester Saint]

11 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Selective history indeed... Lowe's second stint destroyed the club. It was Leon Crouch who tried to mend things.

And without re-treading old ground, Lowe didn’t know ‘where the next penny was coming from’ in 2005/6. Tidy at managing the Sky money until he believed his own press (and clearly still does) written by his public school chum Charlie Sale and we were relegated after the Wigley debacle.

But not wealthy enough to be in charge of Gloucester City let alone Saints. 

Edited Tuesday at 19:04 by Gloucester Saint

[Verwood Saint]

Rupert Lowe's a Wanker, he wears a Wankers hat...

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, washsaint said:

And he's quite right - that is discrimination and the whole DEI woke mindset is an absolute travesty.  Hire people based on their merits.

Which line of the text he posted do you think is discrimination and why?

Edited Tuesday at 19:23 by Matthew Le God

[Zorba]

We’re better than that Rupe. Diversity is in our blood. We gave our whole squad over to the most skillfully challenged players in the Premier League last season. Colour and creed made no difference. They were all just as shit as each other!

[Football Special]

2 hours ago, washsaint said:

Selective history there......i was Wilde and co that drove SFC to the birnk of oblivion and Lowe came back to try and mend it all (but was unsuccessful).

And he's quite right - that is discrimination and the whole DEI woke mindset is an absolute travesty.  Hire people based on their merits.

He's spot on,, disappointing to see Saints discriminating in such a way. 

[ecuk268]

Rupert has now formed his own party....

https://mailchi.mp/ad9dc8455b98/farage-is-rising-and-disillusionment-is-fuelling-him-12751781?e=b1f0de1801

[Tauro]

He speaks a lot of sense. Just a shame that sesnde had found him 25 years too late.

[ItchenRob]

He's such a snowflake he blocked me from his Facebook group for pointing out that he wasn't quite as popular at Saints as he was making out.

Very glad he is nowhere near Saints now for a variety of reasons.

[Gloucester Saint]

38 minutes ago, Football Special said:

He's spot on,, disappointing to see Saints discriminating in such a way. 

Come on FS, you’re much better than that.

I’ve recruited into the hundreds for staff and it doesn’t work like Lowe is saying at all. And he doesn’t operate like that out of Withington either. For example people with neurodiversities have an employment rate miles below the average, yet no less talent. Small adjustments give them a chance to compete in recruitment - note compete, not an advantage https://www.gov.uk/government/news/employment-prospects-for-neurodiverse-people-set-to-be-boosted-with-launch-of-new-expert-panel

Edited Tuesday at 20:47 by Gloucester Saint

[Matthew Le God]

38 minutes ago, Football Special said:

He's spot on,, disappointing to see Saints discriminating in such a way. 

What exactly are you saying in that post is discrimination and why?

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly are you saying in that post is discrimination and why?

It isn’t, but I’ve tried to explain above why it isn’t and why the ‘white man’ losing out argument being pumped out online and by populists like Lowe and Farage is not true. 

I’m trying to inform and gently challenge rather than argue with a poster that I like.

[Football Special]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

What exactly are you saying in that post is discrimination and why?

They would rather have applicants that are not white males , fairly straightforward 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Football Special said:

They would rather have applicants that are not white males , fairly straightforward 

No where in that text does it say that non white males will have an advantage in the selection process. It is merely encouraging those from other groups to apply. It is still selecting on merit, so it is not discrimination. 

[Gloucester Saint]

18 minutes ago, Football Special said:

They would rather have applicants that are not white males , fairly straightforward 

🤦‍♂️

Seriously? Social media has a lot to answer for. Do you go to SMS on a match day and never see a white face? And what about white applicants from different backgrounds? Ban women? Should disabled people be confined to the wheelchair section?

All those white coaches, administrators and managers not getting an opportunity….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_managers_in_English_football

Edited Tuesday at 21:18 by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

No where in that text does it say that non white males will have an advantage in the selection process. It is merely encouraging those from other groups to apply. It is still selecting on merit, so it is not discrimination. 

Yep, doesn’t mean they’ll get it and aren’t offered the role if not the best on the day but having the interview experience and feedback if they don’t succeed helps them compete on a more level playing field next time.

[RedArmy]

Swing Lowe

[West end Saints]

Before social media you had racist old gits staring into their beer (red wine?) ranting about "them coming over here", they would generally be ignored as their bitter ignorance deserved, now they can form political parties appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Sad.

[gastroreporter]

25 minutes ago, Football Special said:

They would rather have applicants that are not white males , fairly straightforward 

Select on merit only! I agree. Which is exactly why the club are encouraging particular groups of people to apply (and I agree they could do more for other groups beyond the ones they mentioned). They want the best. If the club see that applicants for positions are not representative of the local community, then they need to find a way to encourage under-represented groups to apply, otherwise they most likely won't be getting the best candidates (unless, of course, you think that some types of people are intrinsically better than others).

[Master Bates]

SWING LOWE, SWING RUPERT LOWE, SWING HIM FROM THE ITCHEEEN BRIIIDGE.......

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, gastroreporter said:

Select on merit only! I agree. Which is exactly why the club are encouraging particular groups of people to apply (and I agree they could do more for other groups beyond the ones they mentioned). They want the best. If the club see that applicants for positions are not representative of the local community, then they need to find a way to encourage under-represented groups to apply, otherwise they most likely won't be getting the best candidates (unless, of course, you think that some types of people are intrinsically better than others).

☝️ and would add that all applicants, including white. from the most deprived SO postcodes should be encouraged too. Not PO ones though, there are limits…

That potentially harms older white graduates from top universities like me but puts me on my top game.

Edited Tuesday at 21:30 by Gloucester Saint

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, gastroreporter said:

They want the best. If the club see that applicants for positions are not representative of the local community, then they need to find a way to encourage under-represented groups to apply,

If you want the best candidates you set your wage range at the highest in the industry to lure them in, not sure race/background etc has anything to do with it.

[RedArmy]

1 minute ago, skintsaint said:

If you want the best candidates

Have you seen our recruitment on the football side of things? I’m not sure this club does the “best candidates” thing any more full stop. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, skintsaint said:

If you want the best candidates you set your wage range at the highest in the industry to lure them in, not sure race/background etc has anything to do with it.

In London, Edinburgh, Dublin, sure, but horses for courses according to the market and customer base. And depends on what your mission is. 

[Sir Ralph]

54 minutes ago, Football Special said:

They would rather have applicants that are not white males , fairly straightforward 

I agree - it’s clear that’s what it insinuates and it’s bias. If I was a white male coach I would think twice about applying. No need to say it

Edited Tuesday at 21:53 by Sir Ralph

[suewhistle]

20 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

SWING LOWE, SWING RUPERT LOWE, SWING HIM FROM THE ITCHEEEN BRIIIDGE.......

Really! That would be most  undignified and unpleasant. I'd get my mushroom foraging knife out (the one with the curved blade and with a little brush on the end) and cut him free...

He really is a most unpleasant man and fairly stupid with it, apart from knowing some good accountants who helped him with his reverse takeover of Southampton. I'd be interested to know just how much of his own capital he put into it..

Which bit about 'welcome applications' does he not understand, and the need to widen the demographic? They won't be appointed if they can't do the job. Although I seem to recall we had Anthony Pulis and Tommy Forecast during his time, and although the right colour they both never got a game.

He would probably prefer somebody who can do an unpaid internship because mummy and daddy are paying for the flat rental. If he thinks the best people get the job all the time he really does need to wake up a bit and realise why certain industries are populated by people from certain backgrounds.

 

[Zorba]

Rupe’s sewn this seed so take it out on him, not me!

So.. we all know that black and ethnic coaches and managers are under-represented. Take the Premier League. Only 4% of managers were from black or ethnic minorities. England has a population made up of 18% of people from black and ethnic origins and 82% are white, therefore every effort should be made to even the playing field and raise the number of black and ethnic coaches to around 18% to offer a fair representation of the population. 

On the other hand, 43% of players in the Premier League are from black or ethnic origin. If white players only make up 57% of the Premier League, does this mean that white players are under-represented by 25% and players of black and ethnic origin are over-represented by 25%? Do we need to reduce the number of black and ethnic minority players in the Premier League to offer a fair representation of the population?

Can you do one without doing the other? Would that be fair? Do we really need to do either? 

[benjii]

6 hours ago, West end Saints said:

Before social media you had racist old gits staring into their beer (red wine?) ranting about "them coming over here", they would generally be ignored as their bitter ignorance deserved, now they can form political parties appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Sad.

Social media and big data have completely fucked democracy.

[east-stand-nic]

So, if the advert said we particularly welcome applications from white middle aged males......would this also be acceptable to say?

[Gloucester Saint]

5 hours ago, Zorba said:

Rupe’s sewn this seed so take it out on him, not me!

So.. we all know that black and ethnic coaches and managers are under-represented. Take the Premier League. Only 4% of managers were from black or ethnic minorities. England has a population made up of 18% of people from black and ethnic origins and 82% are white, therefore every effort should be made to even the playing field and raise the number of black and ethnic coaches to around 18% to offer a fair representation of the population. 

On the other hand, 43% of players in the Premier League are from black or ethnic origin. If white players only make up 57% of the Premier League, does this mean that white players are under-represented by 25% and players of black and ethnic origin are over-represented by 25%? Do we need to reduce the number of black and ethnic minority players in the Premier League to offer a fair representation of the population?

Can you do one without doing the other? Would that be fair? Do we really need to do either? 

This isn’t like affirmative action in the US or SA though - which has a history of civil rights abuses and apartheid, so went down a quantitative route. Mixed views on that, but as ever, the garbage from MAGA transplants to the likes of Reform UK and the ‘left behind’ voters.

Here, it’s not quantitative in selection as such but recognising that more of an opportunity needs to be given for interview and assessment for people who might not have seen themselves say working at a brand name football club. That’s all, and unlike the above they still have to meet the majority of essential and desirable criteria, or be compelling on how they could develop to do so.

The cream should rise to the top whether it’s white middle aged, black, women, disabled etc. Given the club’s performance since spring 2023, perhaps the odd different perspective might improve things?

[Costa del Solent]

9 hours ago, Tauro said:

He speaks a lot of sense. Just a shame that sesnde had found him 25 years too late.

Leave it out. A privately educated former investment banker turned multimillionaire using populist, reactionary dog whistle politics trying to whip up a groundswell of working-class anger against people you have far more in common with than you do with him. The guy is not only financially and politically illiterate (stop all foreign aid to major trading partners being an obvious example, inter alia) but also demonises whole communities and demographics of people in order to garner political support from a base largely (and understandably) frustrated at increasing wealth inequality (which, if you read Wilkinson & Pickets’ study ‘The Spirit Level,’ comes with a whole host of social problems: rises in crime, drug use, poor mental and physical health, etc.). The irony is, if you’re pissed off at the above, it’s people like Rupert Lowe who exasperate the social issues, not the people he demonises for your support. Hate-filled, uninformed, economically bankrupt and culturally divisive trash form a hugely privileged bourgeois dickhead, bemoaning how he is a victim from his significantly large platform. 

[AlexLaw76]

8 minutes ago, Costa del Solent said:

Leave it out. A privately educated former investment banker turned multimillionaire using populist, reactionary dog whistle politics trying to whip up a groundswell of working-class anger against people you have far more in common with than you do with him. The guy is not only financially and politically illiterate (stop all foreign aid to major trading partners being an obvious example, inter alia) but also demonises whole communities and demographics of people in order to garner political support from a base largely (and understandably) frustrated at increasing wealth inequality (which, if you read Wilkinson & Pickets’ study ‘The Spirit Level,’ comes with a whole host of social problems: rises in crime, drug use, poor mental and physical health, etc.). The irony is, if you’re pissed off at the above, it’s people like Rupert Lowe who exasperate the social issues, not the people he demonises for your support. Hate-filled, uninformed, economically bankrupt and culturally divisive trash form a hugely privileged bourgeois dickhead, bemoaning how he is a victim from his significantly large platform. 

It is the utter and complete failure of the usual suspects that Lowe and his kin are about to gather so much support.

Dont hate the player, hate the game

[suewhistle]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

So, if the advert said we particularly welcome applications from white middle aged males......would this also be acceptable to say?

No, it would be pointlessly unnecessary. Why on earth would you want or need to? Or perhaps somebody like Lowe would make it as he'd think he was making a point.

[Zorba]

..and what about the lgbtqai+ community?

We’re massively under-represented in football. If we’re being inclusive, where’s my specific invite? 🏳️‍🌈

[east-stand-nic]

5 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

No, it would be pointlessly unnecessary. Why on earth would you want or need to? Or perhaps somebody like Lowe would make it as he'd think he was making a point.

So, there was no need to mention particular preferences in the way they did. A simple line up say we welcome applications from all walks of life, colour creed etc., call it what you will.....what they write was factually wrong and could be seen as anti white. If it was the other way around you libtards would be all over it. But as ever, because of your massive insecurities and internal hatred and need to be loved and liked, you kow tow to this way so that you can win accolades and friends by seeming so open and liberal. It was the wrong way to word it, as it clearly excludes or at the very least makes it clear white applicants will be considered less. Deal with it. See things for what they are, not what you want to see seen as you pious fool. 

In your highlighted section above you say someone would need to be making a point to say white applicants considered more important. So who was trying to make the point by saying non white more important and indeed, what point was that author making? You said it, so don't run away from the question. 

Edited yesterday at 07:26 by east-stand-nic

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, east-stand-nic said:

So, there was no need to mention particular preferences in the way they did. A simple line up say we welcome applications from all walks of life, colour creed etc., call it what you will.....what they write was factually wrong and could be seen as anti white. If it was the other way around you libtards would be all over it. But as ever, because of your massive insecurities and internal hatred and need to be loved and liked, you kow tow to this way so that you can win accolades and friends by seeming so open and liberal. It was the wrong way to word it, as it clearly excludes or at the very least makes it clear white applicants will be considered less. Deal with it. See things for what they are, not what you want to see seen as you pious fool. 

Should they welcome anti-vax loons as well?

[Turkish]

If us (current) white lads want to apply for the role it's no bother, we'll just identify as a black women during the interview process, reject me now at your peril SFC racists. 👊🌈

[Zorba]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

If us (current) white lads want to apply for the role it's no bother, we'll just identify as a black women during the interview process, reject me now at your peril SFC racists. 👊🌈

Only if we can use the Southampton Womens FC toilets and changing rooms!

[Turkish]

Just now, Zorba said:

Only if we can use the Southampton Womens FC toilets and changing rooms!

Dont they let black women in them then?

[Zorba]

Just now, Turkish said:

Dont they let black women in them then?

Oh yeah… what was I thinking?