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Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

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Doctoroncall

Doctoroncall

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1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Thanks

The main thing i got from this was the reporters version of "done really well" and my version are miles apart.

I know what you mean as I tend to do the same, however these are still young players learning the game. Some may make it, hopefully in a Saints shirt. Loaning out players seems to be a good option. 

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BarberSaint

BarberSaint

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5 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

And BBD was on loan by January, 0 goals/assists, and Sugawara effectively out of favour by then after mistaking football for volleyball.

For only Fernandes and Ramsdale to work out is about right for SR transfer windows though as a success rate.

Ramsdale wasn't really a gamble though, was he?

 

Nor was MF actually, but I recognised he might have some adaptation to do. Didn't realise it would be to how crap we are though.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I know it won't happen but I'd have Ings on a free, if only because I'd be confident he'd score against the skates. 

I wouldn't touch Danny Ings with a ten foot pole.

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chivvy

chivvy

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wouldnt mind a starting front three of 

 

Archer 

Sargaent

Armstrong.

 

Whose the better player in the championship Archer or Armstrong ?

 

 

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

Posted
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4 hours ago, chivvy said:

wouldnt mind a starting front three of 

 

Archer 

Sargaent

Armstrong.

 

Whose the better player in the championship Archer or Armstrong ?

 

 

Sargent is one of those good Champ, poor PL players - but he is a good player for Norwich without doubt and if the price was right I'd be inclined to have a look.

I hoped we'd have a sniff around Siaz at Norwich, but looks like he's been snared by Villareal which is a good move.

I've seen nothing from Archer this season to suggest he can do a job, but part of me wants to see him in a 2 and with someone like Sargent it could work. 

Oldandtired

Oldandtired

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13 hours ago, Turkish said:

Bro is sick, he can play ball bruv 

Is ball bruv a new game?

and that's a lot of his trouble, he is sick a lot of the time

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Turkish

Turkish

Posted
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1 hour ago, Oldandtired said:

Is ball bruv a new game?

and that's a lot of his trouble, he is sick a lot of the time

Bro will cook for us again 

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gio1saints

gio1saints

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12 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Yeah but is his social media presence telling us hcdajfu? What do you think @gio1saints? 😉🤭

Nah his media is shit. NB: never seen as many tourists at SMS in the what would be usually ST’s as today already. A good line in half n half shirts as well. Guess it’s the easiest match to sell on. 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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3 hours ago, Chez said:

Is his cooking making em sick?

 

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

When he cooks he will make us sick Bro

Tomorrow's News...today!

St Mary's shut down due to Food Standards Authority raid!
Championship hopefuls Southampton's season derailed by change of home venue!

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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On 10/05/2025 at 05:35, chivvy said:

wouldnt mind a starting front three of 

 

Archer 

Sargaent

Armstrong.

 

Whose the better player in the championship Archer or Armstrong ?

 

 

Armstrong is done for me.  Shit loan at WBA where he went from starting to bench warmer and ripped up no trees.

With his contract situation it would be a good time to flog him and get some money.

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gio1saints

gio1saints

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WRT our attack next season :

I do not see us having BOTH Archer AND Armstrong. AA likely goal tally and defensive work rate will be better so I prefer AA and hope we get a decent fee for CA. 


I also do NOT see TP playing Championship football next season. Back to Turkey methinks. 

I DO see RS being in the squad and trying to get some form from somewhere - but if he’s not scoring by Xmas he’s got to be loaned or sold. 
 

That leaves Jay Robinson who is raw and will not start, Tyler who is also still raw and we will not get £100m or even £50m or even £30m for, IMO, his last 6/7 anonymous matches have not gone unnoticed - so If he IS sold for say £25m then I’d expect a massive sell on clause.
 

Then that leaves Sam E - who I think will be sold, Ryan Fraser who I think we will retain if he takes a pay cut and Kameldeen who I also think will be sold. 
 

We will need plenty basically. 

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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1 minute ago, gio1saints said:

Ryan Fraser who I think we will retain if he takes a pay cut

The players will have automatic pay cuts after relegation. It was reported to be 40% last time, so the same again without the need to talk them into it.

gio1saints

gio1saints

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55 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

The players will have automatic pay cuts after relegation. It was reported to be 40% last time, so the same again without the need to talk them into it.

Are you sure? Did Ryan get an 40% pay rise from our promotion? 

He joined when we were in the Championship and I thought it was on a free - but he got more bigger bucks weekly than if we had to pay a fee obviously. What if that means RF does not get a pay cut cos he was joined on a free? Might be one if not highest paid player in squad? 

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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2 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Are you sure? Did Ryan get an 40% pay rise from our promotion? 

He joined when we were in the Championship and I thought it was on a free - but he got more bigger bucks weekly than if we had to pay a fee obviously. What if that means RF does not get a pay cut cos he was joined on a free? Might be one if not highest paid player in squad? 

A 40% pay rise does not restore wages to the same level after a 40% paycut.

Joining on a free transfer does not mean you automatically get higher wages or that you'd be exempt from the standard relegation reduction clause the club used when signing other 1st team players.

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Chez

Chez

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17 hours ago, gio1saints said:

Are you sure? Did Ryan get an 40% pay rise from our promotion? 

He joined when we were in the Championship and I thought it was on a free - but he got more bigger bucks weekly than if we had to pay a fee obviously. What if that means RF does not get a pay cut cos he was joined on a free? Might be one if not highest paid player in squad? 

Fraser was on loan in the championship, then signed on a permanent contract after we were promoted. 

He still had a year left on his Newcastle deal. I imagine we were offering a bit less than that deal, so there was probably some haggling by his agent to get Newcastle to pay the difference as a leaving 'present'.

His wage won't be small, but there is a good chance there is going to be a reduction on relegation built in.

Chez

Chez

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12 hours ago, Teamsaint1 said:

Charlie Taylor.

anybody know what is going on?

Three different managers have not rated him. Maybe he just isn't very good as a wingback.

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Chez

Chez

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18 hours ago, waylander said:

Michael Keane is out of contract at Everton. CDAJFU

We've got a few centre backs to shift before we can invest in a new one.

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Dman

Dman

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20 minutes ago, Chez said:

We've got a few centre backs to shift before we can invest in a new one.

We're going to need 4 first team ready CB's I'd say. 

ABK, THB & Bednerak will all, almost certainly go - That would leave us with Edwards, Stephens & Wood. Adding someone like Keane, an experienced head, to help players like Edwards and Wood, would give us a really solid set of options. I wouldn't mind us shifting Wood on and replacing him if we can. 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Keane go back to Burnley though. 

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Danbert

Danbert

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3 hours ago, Dman said:

We're going to need 4 first team ready CB's I'd say. 

ABK, THB & Bednerak will all, almost certainly go - That would leave us with Edwards, Stephens & Wood. Adding someone like Keane, an experienced head, to help players like Edwards and Wood, would give us a really solid set of options. I wouldn't mind us shifting Wood on and replacing him if we can. 

Wouldn't be surprised to see Keane go back to Burnley though. 

Personally, looking at THB's performances this season, I can't see anyone coming in and offering the kind of money that would tempt us to sell him.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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2 minutes ago, Danbert said:

Personally, looking at THB's performances this season, I can't see anyone coming in and offering the kind of money that would tempt us to sell him.

I know what you mean but a recent England cap, time to develop as a third CB at a bigger club, and a good reputation in the game, he will get a buyer at somewhere like West Ham or Aston Villa. 

Baird of the land

Baird of the land

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6 minutes ago, Danbert said:

Personally, looking at THB's performances this season, I can't see anyone coming in and offering the kind of money that would tempt us to sell him.

Yeah i can't see anyone paying 20M for him based on a bad showing in prem for us.

Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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Sargent and Sainz from Norwich will be on the radar, and Johansson (Stoke) should be approached even before Ramsdale's inevitable move is lined up. Goodrham (Oxford). Chakvetadze (Boro), Tanganga (Millwall), should all be on the radar if we are looking to recruit the best in our league.  If Rohl comes in, he may fancy Gassama from Sheff Weds, also.  

Hopefully it's going to be a busy summer.

 

 

 

 

spyinthesky

spyinthesky

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I guess it is not only buys that will make or break next season but bringing in a couple of useful loans from Prem teams.

I guess we have exhausted our association with Man City after paying over the top fees for their 'emerging talent' and Saturdays performance may not have endeared Pep and Co

Turkish

Turkish

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Just now, spyinthesky said:

I guess it is not only buys that will make or break next season but bringing in a couple of useful loans from Prem teams.

I guess we have exhausted our association with Man City after paying over the top fees for their 'emerging talent' and Saturdays performance may not have endeared Pep and Co

we can get 5 cant we? That'll be key, bringing in a few decent ones like last time, not Cornet and Gronbeck. 

I'm pretty confident we'll have a decent squad for the championship 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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3 minutes ago, spyinthesky said:

I guess it is not only buys that will make or break next season but bringing in a couple of useful loans from Prem teams.

I guess we have exhausted our association with Man City after paying over the top fees for their 'emerging talent' and Saturdays performance may not have endeared Pep and Co

We'll sign Man City players if the price is right for both clubs and we think we've identified one who CDAJFU. So far Lavia and THB have been a success, Bazunu will likely be GK next season and Edozie has contributed intermittently, mostly from the bench. I doubt the club see the fees we've payed as 'OTT' and Saturday's game will have no bearing on anything.

Turkish

Turkish

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1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

We'll sign Man City players if the price is right for Man City and we think we've identified one who CDAJFU. So far Lavia and THB have been a success, Bazunu will likely be GK next season and Edozie has contributed intermittently, mostly from the bench. I doubt the club see the fees we've payed as 'OTT' and Saturday's game will have no bearing on anything.

corrected it for you

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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23 minutes ago, Turkish said:

corrected it for you

The fees we've paid for their players have been reasonable so far and we wouldn't have signed them if the club didn't think so at the time.

trousers

trousers

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10 hours ago, Chez said:

Three different managers have not rated him. Maybe he just isn't very good as a wingback.

Makes you wonder why we bought him in the first place.... 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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Just looking at the last side we had that managed to stay in the PL. That was 15th in 2021/22.

While we didn't play the system at the time, and managers have changed, a 4-2-3-1, with the regular starters, would look something like:-

Forster (19 Apps) - (Although mainly back up, played for Tottenham in the Champions league in 22/23, and has 7 league starts this season for them.)

Livramento (25/3 Apps) - (In a Champions League spot with Newcastle)
Walker Peters (29/3 Apps) - About to leave on a free transfer.

Bednarek (30/1 Apps) - Still here, and despite being sent out on loan under Ralph, and SR buying plenty of other CBs, is now our best defender.
Salisu (33/1 Apps) - (In a Champions League spot with Monaco)

Romeu (34/2 Apps) - (Was playing European football for Barcelona in 23/24. Still a regular in La Liga for Girona.)
Ward Prowse (36 Apps) - (Was playing European football for West Ham in 23/24)

Armstrong, A (17/6 Apps) - Great in the Championship, but unable to produce in a PL Saints team.
Armstrong, S (15/10 Apps) (With Sheff Wed since 01/25, following his spell with the Vancouver Whitecaps. Hair still awesome)
Tella (10/4 Apps) - (In a Champions League spot with Leverkusen, a competition he's played in 24/25 too)

Adams (23/7 Apps) (Torino's top scorer in Serie A in 24/25. They are midtable in Serie A)

In the squad we also had:-
Perraud (18/2 Apps) - (In a Europa League spot with Real Betis, and played Euro Conference for them regularly in 24/25)
Elyounoussi (23/7) - (Regular in Champions and UEFA Conference with Copenhagen)
Redmond (20/7 Apps) - (Qualified for Europe with Besiktas in 22/23. Not so great a spell with Burnley since.)
Broja - (21/11) - only on loan with us. 

That was the side, that had seen very little investment for seasons, that Sport Republic had to reinforce to support Ralph.

Of the current team, rooted to the bottom of the PL, following SR's investment:-

Ramsdale would be an upgrade on Forster.
Fernandes would be competing with Stu for a place.

All that investment for 1 upgrade to a veteran player and someone who would be getting lots of minutes when Stu wasn't starting. Quite a grim assessment on how far SR, and their recruitment genius, haven't taken us.

 

Livramento, Romeu, Ward Prowse, Tella and Adams would walk back into the side. Salisu showed he was better in the PL than anyone who followed him here, and would get my nod in the first 11 pretty easily).

You could argue we did bring in Lavia, if only to sell him as quickly as we could, as we went down. Now on 14 league starts and 1 UEFA conference app for Chelsea this season following injury who currently in a Champions League spot. But we'd have needed someone else, with his injuries and we went down with him. He'd get in now, because Romeu is towards the end of his career, he's fit and has developed as he looked very capable of doing.

Alcaraz was moved swiftly on by Martin, like Perraud, but now a regular on loan starter, with a PL side that isn't being relegated.

As we look to get promoted next season, it's currently with Ramsdale and Fernandes who would get into that side. Bednarek and AA still there, because we've simply not been able to recruit anyone better, despite all that investment. And we seem to have tried lots of SR options.

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Turkish

Turkish

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2 hours ago, trousers said:

Makes you wonder why we bought him in the first place.... 

 

12 hours ago, Chez said:

Three different managers have not rated him. Maybe he just isn't very good as a wingback.

And the three different managers have got 12 points between them. Yet Sean Dyce and the current Bayern Munich manager picked him regularly 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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James G

James G

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12 minutes ago, James G said:

Would folk be up to the idea, if we return to the Premier League, to break the rules on spending and go for the 10 point deduction 

There is a reason I ask. There is an idea afoot, popularist in essence, which involves the above.

As per previous posts, nothing ever happens that is said. But interesting to gauge opinion. No idea if they read here or not

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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16 minutes ago, James G said:

Would folk be up to the idea, if we return to the Premier League, to break the rules on spending and go for the 10 point deduction 

SR history would suggest that we break the spending rules by burning through another 3 managers & staff, and bringing in another 30 non PL capable players.

On that basis, no. 🙂 

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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19 minutes ago, James G said:

Would folk be up to the idea, if we return to the Premier League, to break the rules on spending and go for the 10 point deduction 

It is an utterly ridiculous idea and anyone suggesting otherwise or even contemplating it shouldn't be working in football. Next stupid question...

James G

James G

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2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

SR history would suggest that we break the spending rules by burning through another 3 managers & staff, and bringing in another 30 non PL capable players.

On that basis, no. 🙂 

If it didn't mean burning through managers and buying better players

Not so much next year though

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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43 minutes ago, Turkish said:

 

And the three different managers have got 12 points between them. Yet Sean Dyce and the current Bayern Munich manager picked him regularly 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Oh c'mon. What could a vastly experienced PL manager and the manager of one of Europe's biggest clubs possibly have to teach SR and their hipster picks?

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