Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[kjurwi]

3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Promotion gone if so and we will be in the EFL for a long time. 

Baz and McCarthy promoted us the last time in the Championship. 

 

Would still like someone else though. 

[Saint Matty 76]

Apparently it's likely to be a significant fee loan + option anyway.

Good news that we have a good level Goalkeeper available if we come back up and the option isn't picked up.

Bad news that we're significantly less likely to go up with Bazunu and having Ramsdale still technically on our books makes buying another 1st choice basically impossible.

[Matthew Le God]

 

[benjii]

Just now, Saint Matty 76 said:

Apparently it's likely to be a significant fee loan + option anyway.

Good news that we have a good level Goalkeeper available if we come back up and the option isn't picked up.

Bad news that we're significantly less likely to go up with Bazunu and having Ramsdale still technically on our books makes buying another 1st choice basically impossible.

So, a shit deal, then.

[SWLondon Saint]

I've been a big critic of Bazunu in the past, but we did still get promoted with him last time, he actually made a couple of great stops in the previous friendly, and I don't think we're going to get a prem level replacement in at this point so why not just see if he has actually improved at this point? Not playing suicide ball and with proper defensive structure ahead of him might help a lot already.

[benjii]

Christ, imagine when Bazunu drops a howler against the Skates.

[SWLondon Saint]

If you wanted 1 thing to improve our defending, not having Cap'n Jack in there would be #1, he actually seems to worsen defensive communication and make everyone uncertain instead of improving it.

[Saint Matty 76]

3 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

I've been a big critic of Bazunu in the past, but we did still get promoted with him last time, he actually made a couple of great stops in the previous friendly, and I don't think we're going to get a prem level replacement in at this point so why not just see if he has actually improved at this point? Not playing suicide ball and with proper defensive structure ahead of him might help a lot already.

We got promoted in spite of him, and actually got carried over the line by a 50 year old McCarthy who looked better than Gav.

There's nothing to suggest an ACL injury and a terrible loan move in Belgium has done anything to believe he's improved.

Edited Monday at 12:50 by Saint Matty 76

[sad saints fan]

2 minutes ago, benjii said:

Christ, imagine when Bazunu drops a howler against the Skates.

Or imagine when plays an absolute blinder as players often do when returning to a previous club.

[benjii]

Just now, sad saints fan said:

Or imagine when plays an absolute blinder as players often do when returning to a previous club.

Inshallah bruthah.

[S-Clarke]

Dragan did speak about a loan deal for Ramsdale way back, something that keeps him with us, but allows him to stay in the PL.

I assume this will be a rather chunky loan fee, probably more than the Bednarek sale. 

The benefit is that we now have time to replace him. I feared this would drag right up until the last moment, giving us no time to replace. (it still might, but tbh these sorts of things get done fairly quickly as it's just a loan)

Edited Monday at 12:52 by S-Clarke

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

We got promoted in spite of him, and actually got carried over the line by a 50 year old McCarthy who looked better than Gav.

There's nothing to suggest an ACL injury and a terrible loan move in Belgium has done anything to believe he's improved.

It wasn't an ACL injury it was his Achilles tendon, just like he is our Achilles heel!

[DT]

If we have to play McCarthy at all we are fucked. Even more fucked than deciding to give Jack Stephens a new contract. I don’t think Still will stick around at this rate (and might be pushed). Still, we will have very fine catering or something. We should definitely look to sell Ramsdale, not loan. And do it quickly so we have cash to buy a keeper who is not shit 

[Matthew Le God]

5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Dragan did speak about a loan deal for Ramsdale way back, something that keeps him with us, but allows him to stay in the PL.

I assume this will be a rather chunky loan fee, probably more than the Bednarek sale. 

The benefit is that we now have time to replace him. I feared this would drag right up until the last moment, giving us no time to replace. (it still might, but tbh these sorts of things get done fairly quickly as it's just a loan)

I doubt we'd be getting a £6.5m+ loan fee on top of his wages being paid. Unless it was an obligation to buy.

Edited Monday at 12:58 by Matthew Le God

[Dman]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

I doubt we'd be getting a £6.5m+ loan fee on top of his wages being paid.

It would be offset against the cost of the future purchase. Say we value him at £20m, there is a world inwhich we could get half now, half at purchase. 

Somoene like Ramsdale doesn't come cheap. Especially when Newcastle are desperate for a new keeper. 

[Saint Matty 76]

4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

It wasn't an ACL injury it was his Achilles tendon, just like he is our Achilles heel!

Ah right, my bad.

Well if he was as poor getting down to the bottom corners as he was before that, I dread to imagine that part of his game now.

[beatlesaint]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

It would be offset against the cost of the future purchase. Say we value him at £20m, there is a world inwhich we could get half now, half at purchase. 

Somoene like Ramsdale doesn't come cheap. Especially when Newcastle are desperate for a new keeper. 

I dont understand why they are desperate for a new keeper. Is Pope injured or does Howe just not rate him ?

 

[OldNick]

6 minutes ago, DT said:

If we have to play McCarthy at all we are fucked. Even more fucked than deciding to give Jack Stephens a new contract. I don’t think Still will stick around at this rate (and might be pushed). Still, we will have very fine catering or something. We should definitely look to sell Ramsdale, not loan. And do it quickly so we have cash to buy a keeper who is not shit 

I think we could have Donnarumma and you'd still kick him

[Rebel]

I guess we will have to wait and see but I would prefer we sold Ramsdale for a good fee and bought a first choice keeper.

I'd be happy with Victor Johansson or someone of the calibre as first choice - with Bazunu and McCarthy battling it out to be second choice.  Then if we do manage to get promoted this season we can still go out and sign a first choice premier league keeper to battle for a starting spot with Johannsson (or whoever).  McCarthy will retire next summer anyway and we can either sell Bazunu (with a year left on his contract) or give him new contract and keep him as third choice.

[saintant]

11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Dragan did speak about a loan deal for Ramsdale way back, something that keeps him with us, but allows him to stay in the PL.

I assume this will be a rather chunky loan fee, probably more than the Bednarek sale. 

The benefit is that we now have time to replace him. I feared this would drag right up until the last moment, giving us no time to replace. (it still might, but tbh these sorts of things get done fairly quickly as it's just a loan)

If it is just a loan then presumably he could return to us at the start of next season. On that basis I do not see SR buying a replacement so assume Baz and McCarthy will be our two keepers.

[CSA96]

Going to Newcastle must have double appeal for Ramsdale

Big club, good move etc... but also has the chance to take Pope out of the England reckoning at the same time. Pickford, Henderson and one other. And if Trafford is sat on the bench at City behind Ederson while Ramsdale is playing for Newcastle... he should make the cut for the World Cup

[Matthew Le God]

 

[Matthew Le God]

5 minutes ago, saintant said:

If it is just a loan then presumably he could return to us at the start of next season. On that basis I do not see SR buying a replacement so assume Baz and McCarthy will be our two keepers.

Even if they don't use this as a chance to sign a new first choice and they use Bazunu, they would still need another keeper to replace Lumley. It won't be a 17-year-old like Dylan Moody. He'll be with the academy teams this season as he needs game time.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Even if they don't use this as a chance to sign a new first choice and they use Bazunu, they would still need another keeper to replace Lumley. It won't be a 17-year-old like Dylan Moody. He'll be with the academy teams this season as he needs game time.

That has reassured me - we're likely to get in a replacement for Lumley 🙂

[UpweySaint]

Potentially a good move for Ramsdale. It’s a shame to see him go but hardly unexpected.

I don’t think Baz is as horrendous as many think but I wonder how much it would cost to get genuine competition for him? It’s a shame we’re probably a year too late to get Cooper or Johansson for reasonable fees. If Ramsdale is a loan I can’t see is throwing much money at another keeper.

I wonder if somebody like Sam Tickle could be available for the right price? The issue is relative inexperience but he may not expect to be a guaranteed starter should we go up and Ramsdale return. 

 

[saintant]

29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Newcastle fans raging about this - not happy at all.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

This loan idea is complete bullshit. Just sell him for the highest fee possible. 

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, saintant said:

Newcastle fans raging about this - not happy at all.

Because those of them that are raging are being lazy and judging him on team performance and not his performance. Ramsdale was not in any way to blame for our relegation. He is a PL level keeper in a Championship-level squad at the moment. He'd be a very good signing for them.

[beatlesaint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Because those of them that are raging are being lazy and judging him on team performance and not his performance. Ramsdale was not in any way to blame for our relegation. He is a PL level keeper in a Championship-level squad at the moment. He'd be a very good signing for them.

as first choice or back up to Pope ?

 

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, beatlesaint said:

as first choice or back up to Pope ?

Newcastle have been looking to sign a new 1st choice keeper. That is why they wanted Trafford, Ramsdale is next on their shortlist. Ramsdale would be moving to be first choice instead of Pope.

Edited Monday at 13:22 by Matthew Le God

[AlexLaw76]

Get ready for a Baz masterclass 25/26

[pingpong]

Baz is better than people here think, and gets over scrutinised for every move he makes.

His stats were very similar to ederson and only slightly below Allison during the promotion season, it was partly the fault of our system of play, which focussed on giving opponent strikers the ball in the most dangerous positions on the pitch.

He's looked good preseason, I'm not worried if ramsdale goes. For some reason from day one ramsdale got a pass for minor errors, whereas baz gets pilloried for the same things. If fans can get over that, he'll be fine.

[Chez]

I struggle to see Ramsdale wanting to return to us next summer should we get promoted - unless Pope somehow kept him out out if the side, which is very doubtful. 

Obviously I knew he would depart (some of the posts on here suggesting he wasn't all that are laughable), but I will still be disappointed as it seems like a very long time ago that Forster was any good or McCarthy had a decent season for us. We'd finally sorted out the position and it lasted one season.

Edited Monday at 13:25 by Chez

[Dman]

Just now, pingpong said:

Baz is better than people here think, and gets over scrutinised for every move he makes.

His stats were very similar to ederson and only slightly below Allison during the promotion season, it was partly the fault of our system of play, which focussed on giving opponent strikers the ball in the most dangerous positions on the pitch.

He's looked good preseason, I'm not worried if ramsdale goes. For some reason from day one ramsdale got a pass for minor errors, whereas baz gets pilloried for the same things. If fans can get over that, he'll be fine.

Hes shite. He makes an occasional sensational save, but is unstable and costs us more than he gains.

[AlexLaw76]

3 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Baz is better than people here think, and gets over scrutinised for every move he makes.

His stats were very similar to ederson and only slightly below Allison during the promotion season, it was partly the fault of our system of play, which focussed on giving opponent strikers the ball in the most dangerous positions on the pitch.

He's looked good preseason, I'm not worried if ramsdale goes. For some reason from day one ramsdale got a pass for minor errors, whereas baz gets pilloried for the same things. If fans can get over that, he'll be fine.

I think he is very very very bad.

If what you are saying is true, that would just make him Very bad....

[EBS1980]

Fine with wages being covered and receiving a loan fee. If we go up we have a PL ready keeper again, if not then hopefully Newcastle take up the option to buy.

go get a keeper who will be good enough for our promotion push, if we go up he can be number 2 next season. Then gives us a new keeper with Baz and McCarthy as back ups .

[SouSaint]

Shocker of a deal for us imo. 

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, SouSaint said:

Shocker of a deal for us imo. 

Nothing has currently been agreed. Plus we don't even know the terms of what has been offered!

[hypochondriac]

Please saints just sign a new keeper when Ramsdale goes. Even on loan would be OK. Don't leave us with Bazunu for the season again I don't think I could bear it. 

[Saint_lambden]

From what I've heard this summer (not since Ramsdale news came out this afternoon mind), Spors and Still want to bring in another goalkeeper if (when) Ramsdale goes to compete with Bazunu, with McCarthy becoming the third GK who is actually looking to get in to coaching when he retires which will likely be at the end of this coming season. 

Tommy Setford at Arsenal is one we like. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Nothing has currently been agreed. Plus we don't even know the terms of what has been offered!

Would you not agree a permanent transfer is better than this loan shite? 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Saint_lambden said:

From what I've heard this summer (not since Ramsdale news came out this afternoon mind), Spors and Still want to bring in another goalkeeper if (when) Ramsdale goes to compete with Bazunu, with McCarthy becoming the third GK who is actually looking to get in to coaching when he retires which will likely be at the end of this coming season. 

Tommy Setford at Arsenal is one we like. 

No thanks. A young keeper with potential is the absute last thing we want or need to compete with Bazunu. 

Edited Monday at 13:34 by hypochondriac

[Saintsarmy]

3 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

From what I've heard this summer (not since Ramsdale news came out this afternoon mind), Spors and Still want to bring in another goalkeeper if (when) Ramsdale goes to compete with Bazunu, with McCarthy becoming the third GK who is actually looking to get in to coaching when he retires which will likely be at the end of this coming season. 

Tommy Setford at Arsenal is one we like. 

Have noticed you post quite a few names with reference to hearing it from an unmentioned source. Do you know somebody within the club or seeing these rumours amongst other sites?

[DT]

14 minutes ago, Chez said:

I struggle to see Ramsdale wanting to return to us next summer should we get promoted - unless Pope somehow kept him out out if the side, which is very doubtful. 

Obviously I knew he would depart (some of the posts on here suggesting he wasn't all that are laughable), but I will still be disappointed as it seems like a very long time ago that Forster was any good or McCarthy had a decent season for us. We'd finally sorted out the position and it lasted one season.

Quite. Completely blind to keepers for decades. Such an important position and we cannot really be thinking Baz is good enough can we? Beggars belief

[HarvSFC]

But, a minority of posters confidently told us all that Ramsdale wasn't rated at Premier League level, and he's going to a Champions League club?

If Ramsdale is going out on loan, then surely we're going to go into the loan market for his replacement as well? The loan probably stops us from signing a permanent replacement. However, it doesn't stop us from getting a one year loan ourselves. 

We can't go into another season with Bazunu and McCarthy. We tried it last season, at Premier League level hilariously with the hope that McCarthy could keep the position until Bazunu returned from his injury, we quickly found out it didn't work and we panic signed Ramsdale for big money and uncharacteristically high wages from SR. If we do the same, we're going to need another panic signing, or give up on the autos. But, the hope is that Spors has a long list of goalkeeper targets, as this Ramsdale news hasn't come out of the blue and I imagine he's one of the ones Still has mentioned has been open about leaving.

The Stephens new contract was a red mark on the new decision makers this summer, surely they have a contingency plan for Ramsdale's departure.

Incoming new McCarthy two year contract, or Bazunu gets one.

Edited Monday at 13:41 by HarvSFC

[hypochondriac]

In all seriousness, should bednarek and Ramsdale happen that's going to be about £60 million from sales and we are told we are in a much healthier position this time than last relegation and with hefty wages off the bill. I'd like to see us start using some of this financial muscle to strengthen in the key positions in attacking areas. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

49 minutes ago, DT said:

If we have to play McCarthy at all we are fucked. Even more fucked than deciding to give Jack Stephens a new contract. I don’t think Still will stick around at this rate (and might be pushed). Still, we will have very fine catering or something. We should definitely look to sell Ramsdale, not loan. And do it quickly so we have cash to buy a keeper who is not shit 

Ever the optimist, and there’s not even been a match day yet. 🤣

[S-Clarke]

18 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Baz is better than people here think, and gets over scrutinised for every move he makes.

His stats were very similar to ederson and only slightly below Allison during the promotion season, it was partly the fault of our system of play, which focussed on giving opponent strikers the ball in the most dangerous positions on the pitch.

He's looked good preseason, I'm not worried if ramsdale goes. For some reason from day one ramsdale got a pass for minor errors, whereas baz gets pilloried for the same things. If fans can get over that, he'll be fine.

He doesn't get overcriticized at all. He's judged on pure facts over 2 full seasons with us.

Season 1 - worst keeper in the PL by a margin.

Season 2 - Worst keeper in the Championship by a margin, promoted in spite of.

Season 3 - Injured, went on loan to a very low quality league 2nd half of the season and still struggled with similar 'expected' save stats. He was listed for loan all January, and we had no takers - only ended up at Leige because it was managed by his former youth coach @ City.

Even if you take stats out of it and just look at him with your own eyes, you can quickly see that he's not a capable goal keeper at a high level. He's not physical enough, not tall enough and his wrists are not strong enough. He doesn't command and he cannot make saves, unless they are directly at him.

I wanted him to do well but the bloke is done and we cannot rely on him next season. Ramsdale may come back to us next summer, sure, but we still need to take this opportunity to move on from Bazunu and McCarthy. This is now the acid test for this 'new' recruitment and club setup.

[badgerx16]

Why have so many managers thought that Macca and Baz are capable keepers ?

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Why have so many managers thought that Macca and Baz are capable keepers ?

the same who make Stephens Skipper, at a club who inexplicably extend his contract....