AlexLaw76 Posted yesterday at 10:57 Posted yesterday at 10:57 Mo Elyeonoussi looked like Messi in some of his clips Make of that what you will 1 2
Chez Posted yesterday at 11:07 Posted yesterday at 11:07 8 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: Always difficult in a video montage but really good feet, close control and quick footballing brain in those clips - movement reminds me a bit of a Shaqiri or Kinkladze. One to get excited about if we get this over the line. Agreed. We discussed him on this thread earlier in the window and of all the midfielders we were tentatively linked to, his highlights video stood out. His dead ball delivery really catches the eye. It makes him look technical very good, which is important. We have seen with the likes of Sugawara, that without a first touch the space disappears very quickly in the higher leagues.
Miltonaggro Posted yesterday at 11:11 Posted yesterday at 11:11 13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Mo Elyeonoussi looked like Messi in some of his clips Make of that what you will I raise you a Steve de Ridder 3
spyinthesky Posted yesterday at 11:22 Posted yesterday at 11:22 9 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: I raise you a Steve de Ridder You cant beat Guido Carrillo
samhammond Posted yesterday at 11:22 Posted yesterday at 11:22 Sam and Sam (Amo-Ameyaw) reunited in Strasbourg 2 2
CSA96 Posted yesterday at 11:24 Posted yesterday at 11:24 Little to no loss, he just isn't good enough. Glad to see us clearing a forward/wide player out, hopefully we can get a new pair of wingers in 2
Verbal Posted yesterday at 11:25 Posted yesterday at 11:25 2 minutes ago, samhammond said: Sam and Sam (Amo-Ameyaw) reunited in Strasbourg Well that came out of nowhere
Miltonaggro Posted yesterday at 11:25 Posted yesterday at 11:25 2 minutes ago, samhammond said: Sam and Sam (Amo-Ameyaw) reunited in Strasbourg Looks like the squad trimming is continuing apace.
sockeye Posted yesterday at 11:26 Posted yesterday at 11:26 I have faith in SR to get a good fee, at least. Edozie has shown flashes of ability but the no end product label rings ever true three years later 1
trousers Posted yesterday at 11:29 Posted yesterday at 11:29 Well, at least that explains the "knock" that Edozie picked up the other day.... All eyes peeled for any players not in the squad for the Brighton game at the weekend due similar 'fake' injuries...
SaintLondon Posted yesterday at 11:32 Posted yesterday at 11:32 I think it’s the right decision - for whatever reason, Edozie just wasn’t able to kick on here. I always felt, and still do to some extent, that he had another gear to find, a higher level in him. But if he does reach it, it won’t be in a Southampton shirt. Hopefully this and the Ramsdale move signals the start of things picking up pace - a few more departures, and with any luck, a couple of quality additions through the door.
Chez Posted yesterday at 11:33 Posted yesterday at 11:33 2 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: Looks like the squad trimming is continuing apace. Not a loan either by the sounds of it. Jay Robinson's progress means we had too many left sided players. Whether BBD and Fraser are the answer there is debatable, but if no one wants them, something has to give.
Chez Posted yesterday at 11:36 Posted yesterday at 11:36 4 minutes ago, trousers said: Well, at least that explains the "knock" that Edozie picked up the other day.... All eyes peeled for any players not in the squad for the Brighton game at the weekend due similar 'fake' injuries... I think management are going ti have to invent a new go to term to cover up imminent moves, any unrest, player strikes etc.,
Patrick Bateman Posted yesterday at 11:38 Posted yesterday at 11:38 Edozie is one I think is a shame, could see talent there, but hey ho 6
HarvSFC Posted yesterday at 11:45 Posted yesterday at 11:45 I think Edozie is one of those players who we're now trying to move away from. Technically gifted, but lacks physicality. He did have a good run in the Championship before he was crunched, but then never really came back and didn't exactly boast great stats in the Belgian league last season. One of those who could do well at his new club in France, but I think his time here is done. Still disappointed we lost Amo-Ameyaw to Strasbourg, but Shields has at least helped us back by taking Mara and Edozie now. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted yesterday at 11:52 Posted yesterday at 11:52 12 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said: Edozie is one I think is a shame, could see talent there, but hey ho Yeah I always felt there was a little more to come from him. But it's probably a good move for all parties (depending on the fee, of course). 2
Chez Posted yesterday at 11:57 Posted yesterday at 11:57 3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Yeah I always felt there was a little more to come from him. But it's probably a good move for all parties (depending on the fee, of course). I wonder what that will be, about £5m perhaps? They have spent a fair wedge this summer already, about £70m, although that is offset slightly by Diarra going to Sunderland for a big fee.
SuperSAINT Posted yesterday at 11:58 Posted yesterday at 11:58 (edited) 36 minutes ago, samhammond said: Sam and Sam (Amo-Ameyaw) reunited in Strasbourg Strasbourg not short of cash these days either. I’m surprised because Chelsea academy produce so many young wide players. Edited yesterday at 11:59 by SuperSAINT 1
disconnect Posted yesterday at 11:59 Posted yesterday at 11:59 Would hope for around £8-10 million for Edozie - a decent player who will likely do well elsewhere. Shame as I'd much rather get rid of Fraser and Brereton-Diaz before him. 11
saintant Posted yesterday at 12:04 Posted yesterday at 12:04 3 minutes ago, disconnect said: Would hope for around £8-10 million for Edozie - a decent player who will likely do well elsewhere. Shame as I'd much rather get rid of Fraser and Brereton-Diaz before him. Probably be half that. He's really not demonstrated much ability so I'd value him at 4-5 million max. We'll see I guess but he's been a bit of a disappointment really.
Pamplemousse Posted yesterday at 12:08 Posted yesterday at 12:08 1 hour ago, Bakovnetski said: I have no idea whether or not SFC sent any money into China. But we accepted a good slice for Pelle. Also there may not be any sanctions vs China but there seems to be a blind eye cast upon Uigur persecution. There is no way we would know if the money would go into Russia either. Their ownership may ultimately be elsewhere. The world is awash with dirty money, politics and atrocities. My point is that to raise concern for one avenue is not consistent when there are so many others. The main concern is whether our government would block it! And whether we would be able to bypass international sanctions.
SNSUN Posted yesterday at 12:09 Posted yesterday at 12:09 14 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said: Edozie is one I think is a shame, could see talent there, but hey ho Same here. Has potential but not sure if he'll ever realise it. Him, Larios etc - players from big club academies that we thought could be the next Lavia or Livramento. Hopefully we've moved away from that "buy young and hope" model. At least Downs and Quarshie have proved their capability at the second level of football in a decent League structure. AM/Winger position does need work though more than any other position IMO. 6
Sheaf Saint Posted yesterday at 12:10 Posted yesterday at 12:10 2 minutes ago, saintant said: Probably be half that. He's really not demonstrated much ability so I'd value him at 4-5 million max. We'll see I guess but he's been a bit of a disappointment really. That would be significantly less than the €8m we paid for him. Can't see the club agreeing to that, given what we got for Sulemana and the fact that Edozie outperformed him last time out in the Championship. 2
davefizzy14 Posted yesterday at 12:14 Posted yesterday at 12:14 So is that link saying that Edozie is definitely departing? Really want him to stay and shine. 3
goodymatt Posted yesterday at 12:16 Posted yesterday at 12:16 1 minute ago, davefizzy14 said: So is that link saying that Edozie is definitely departing? Really want him to stay and shine. 🇫🇷🚨🔵EXCLUSIVE: It won’t be Club Brugge for Samuel Edozie! 🏴 The Southampton FC left winger is close to joining Racing Strasbourg! Permanent transfer. 🗣️ Discussions with #RCSA & #SaintsFC are advanced. More details to come... #mercato #RCSA
Lee On Solent Saint Posted yesterday at 12:19 Posted yesterday at 12:19 19 minutes ago, disconnect said: Would hope for around £8-10 million for Edozie - a decent player who will likely do well elsewhere. Shame as I'd much rather get rid of Fraser and Brereton-Diaz before him. Unfortunately, I think we are going to be hard pressed to find buyers for those two.
SherborneSaint Posted yesterday at 12:20 Posted yesterday at 12:20 (edited) Edozie an interesting one. Obvious potential, and a player who can beat a man (it feels like he would have been a good fit for Will Still’s tactics). However, has not made the grade consistently, and if he doesn’t want to be here, there is little point in carrying him as a passenger. It looks like there has been a pick up in terms of the market transactions, so the rumoured busy couple of weeks/month may well be happening. With PO, KS, KWP & JB already off the books, and the potential for AR & SE to follow soon, I wonder what happens next? I think that Aribo has had his time, and may not suit a high intensity game. There are then question marks over those considered to be the Crown Jewels, how many can we afford not to cash in on? There are also unknowns such as FD & YS. In terms of incomings, the lack of a true AMC has been an issue. The post friendly interviews from Will Still suggested that he thought we were short of quality in this area - if we could get the lad in from the Russian club (perhaps the difficulty of dealing with clubs from this part of the world may have suppressed prices???), it could be quality. It also feels like there could now be space for another winger - especially if the tactic will be crosses into the box. I would like to see investment into a new first choice GK. Johansson has proved his worth, so I would like that to happen. He would then be an effective back up (next season) if promotion were achieved. Any unexpected sales could then lead to more activity, but I think I feel excited. The last time we had such a clear out, under Ronald, we unearthed some gems and played some great football. We are now at a different level, but we could now get similar under Will Still. Edited yesterday at 12:36 by SherborneSaint 3
Miltonaggro Posted yesterday at 12:25 Posted yesterday at 12:25 3 minutes ago, SherborneSaint said: Edozie an interesting one. Obvious potential, and a player who can beat a man (it feels like he would have been a good fit for Will Still’s tactics). However, has not made the grade consistently, and if he doesn’t want to be here, there is little point in carrying him as a passenger. It looks like there has been a pick up in terms of the market transactions, so the rumoured busy couple of weeks/month may well be happening. With PO, KS, KWP & JB already off the books, and the potential for AR & SA to follow soon, I wonder what happens next? I think that Aribo has had his time, and may not suit a high intensity game. There are then question marks over those considered to be the Crown Jewels, how many can we afford not to cash in on? There are also unknowns such as FD & YS. In terms of incomings, the lack of a true AMC has been an issue. The post friendly interviews from Will Still suggested that he thought we were short of quality in this area - if we could get the lad in from the Russian club (perhaps the difficulty of dealing with clubs from this part of the world may have suppressed prices???), it could be quality. It also feels like there could now be space for another winger - especially if the tactic will be crosses into the box. I would like to see investment into a new first choice GK. Johansson has proved his worth, so I would like that to happen. He would then be an effective back up (next season) if promotion were achieved. Any unexpected sales could then lead to more activity, but I think I feel excited. The last time we had such a clear out, under Ronald, we unearthed some gems and played some great football. We are now at a different level, but we could now get similar under Will Still. Good post and the Koeman point is interesting - replace the Eredivisie with the Bundesliga and you may be on to something. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 12:27 Posted yesterday at 12:27 Sam was too lightweight for the PL which City fans warned about but actually one of the markedly better players in the first half of our last Champ campaign until Stacey’s dirty (and should’ve been red card) foul at Norwich wiped him out. As with Baz, very mixed Belgian spell but that’s a good manager and club to get him back in track. If the fee is broadly right, that could work out for all parties. 1
disconnect Posted yesterday at 12:30 Posted yesterday at 12:30 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Unfortunately, I think we are going to be hard pressed to find buyers for those two. I dont think we really need a buyer for Fraser, just someone to take him! Sadly it also seems most of our better players (no matter how good they may actually be!) are the ones that are going and we're left with a lot of very average players (Manning, Stephens, Bree, Smallbone, Stewart, BBD, McCarthy). Ideally need to shift some of those and bring in one or two new automatic starters. Edited yesterday at 12:33 by disconnect Further context 1
Chez Posted yesterday at 12:31 Posted yesterday at 12:31 3 minutes ago, SherborneSaint said: With PO, KS, KWP & JB already off the books, and the potential for AR & SA to follow soon, There are also unknowns such as FD & YS. Maybe its my age, but I honestly didn't know who PO, JB, FD and YS were...why not just write the names out in full? Sure, for the double barrelled names I can understand it, I do it myself, but does "Downes" (I got there in the end) need to be shortened to FD? I gave up reading you post in the end. 15
Lee On Solent Saint Posted yesterday at 12:32 Posted yesterday at 12:32 Just now, disconnect said: I dont think we really need a buyer for Fraser, just someone to take him! Even that is going to be difficult! You'd think how much of a love in he had with Martin he'd be wanting to sign him again. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 12:33 Posted yesterday at 12:33 Just now, disconnect said: I dont think we really need a buyer for Fraser, just someone to take him! Which would end up heavily subsidised. We’re very light in wide areas, especially with Edozie sale, so even with a couple of incomings Ryan would still get some appearances and maybe an impact sub as he was 23/24?
Sheaf Saint Posted yesterday at 12:34 Posted yesterday at 12:34 2 minutes ago, Chez said: Maybe its my age, but I honestly didn't know who PO, JB, FD and YS were...why not just write the names out in full? Sure, for the double barrelled names I can understand it, I do it myself, but does "Downes" (I got there in the end) need to be shortened to FD? I gave up reading you post in the end. Yeah I worked them all out except SA. Who the hell is that?
trousers Posted yesterday at 12:37 Posted yesterday at 12:37 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chez said: Maybe its my age, but I honestly didn't know who PO, JB, FD and YS were...why not just write the names out in full? Sure, for the double barrelled names I can understand it, I do it myself, but does "Downes" (I got there in the end) need to be shortened to FD? I gave up reading you post in the end. Echo that.... Seems to have become a regular / trendy thing on here lately (*cough* @gio1saints *cough*... ) Type out their names you lazy toe-rags! (no offence) Edited yesterday at 12:39 by trousers 5
Miltonaggro Posted yesterday at 12:42 Posted yesterday at 12:42 7 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Yeah I worked them all out except SA. Who the hell is that? Sam Allardyce 3
Convict Colony Posted yesterday at 12:43 Posted yesterday at 12:43 2 hours ago, revolution saint said: Classic Saintsweb strawman argument. At least about the motivation issue - people expressed concern over his potential motivation. They haven't moaned about it and you've just made that up. Presume you said the same when we signed Lemina? If there one thing you should know I never make the same argument twice, that's too predictable 🤣
Give it to Ron Posted yesterday at 12:43 Posted yesterday at 12:43 8 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Yeah I worked them all out except SA. Who the hell is that? Sam A :-)
Saint Scott Posted yesterday at 12:49 Posted yesterday at 12:49 14 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Yeah I worked them all out except SA. Who the hell is that? Based on the context, I would guess he meant SE (Sam Edozie) as him and AR (Aaron Ramsdale) have been linked with departures in the last 24 hours 3
Chez Posted yesterday at 12:51 Posted yesterday at 12:51 15 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Which would end up heavily subsidised. We’re very light in wide areas, especially with Edozie sale, so even with a couple of incomings Ryan would still get some appearances and maybe an impact sub as he was 23/24? Has it just been Robinson and BBD that has played on the left wing in the friendlies? I struggle to get my head around BBD playing on the left wing. He's just doesn't seem to offer anything there other than a slight threat when he actually appears in the middle.
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 12:51 Posted yesterday at 12:51 Let's be honest Edozie was never going to make it in the prem. If we get a reasonable amount I'm happy for him to leave. Wingers become close to top priority in the window now. 4
Chez Posted yesterday at 12:54 Posted yesterday at 12:54 Just now, hypochondriac said: Let's be honest Edozie was never going to make it in the prem. If we get a reasonable amount I'm happy for him to leave. Wingers become close to top priority in the window now. I'm sure MLG will point out that we still have Robinson/BBD/Fraser for the left and Dibling/Armstrong on the right, so it kind of depends how Still feels about them and obviously if any look likely to depart.
Charlie Wayman Posted yesterday at 12:55 Posted yesterday at 12:55 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Mo Elyonoussi looked like Messi in some of his clips Make of that what you will To be fair Elyonoussi was a stylish half decent player who happened not to fit our system at the time. In a better team he would have been far more effective. He had some good moments for us. 4
Sheaf Saint Posted yesterday at 12:58 Posted yesterday at 12:58 2 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: To be fair Elyonoussi was a stylish half decent player who happened not to fit our system at the time. In a better team he would have been far more effective. He had some good moments for us. They must have passed me by because I genuinely don't remember any. 2 1
SuperSAINT Posted yesterday at 12:59 Posted yesterday at 12:59 What kind of wide players does Will Still play with, historically? Old school wide players? Or inside forwards?
gio1saints Posted yesterday at 12:59 Posted yesterday at 12:59 Nice @trousers- If it’s not what you say ( if you negatively criticise a player the club a tactic that’s generally all lovely on here as lots of people love to get in a crying gaggle ( whats the collective term for a group of moaners ? A “Wail” seems as good a term as any….) but just try personally defending anything on here that anyone else has determined is received wisdom and oh dear just bought yourself a ticket to Wail heaven. But that’s old news. Today’s Wailing novelty is HOW you say it THATS THE PROBLEM. ho ho. No initials for players names - half the posters here don’t even know who is in the squad so I appreciate use of their initials is actually a waste of time, others, realising that being offended nay even outraged and angry is the latest and best thing to be- about anything- but most of all about Saints can now take umbrage at initials. If you like this content please like and consider subscribing to SAINTSWAIL@SFC.com. 1 1
Turkish Posted yesterday at 12:59 Posted yesterday at 12:59 Just now, Sheaf Saint said: They must have passed me by because I genuinely don't remember any. They were when he didn’t have the ball, remember?
revolution saint Posted yesterday at 13:07 Posted yesterday at 13:07 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: They were when he didn’t have the ball, remember? Yeah, his work off the ball was his (apparent) strength. My favourite damned by faint praise phrase is "does the simple things well". Yep, that's what we need - someone so limited they manage to turn basic competency into an achievement.
Saint Scott Posted yesterday at 13:14 Posted yesterday at 13:14 15 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: They must have passed me by because I genuinely don't remember any. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R9TMvmkfVc 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted yesterday at 13:23 Posted yesterday at 13:23 Sam Edozie was better than some of our wide players, but it’s a low bar to clear. That’s why the likes of Dibling and Fernandes some people class them as Messi-esque. Not to bothered about the sale, just hope we have a ready replacement lined up. 1
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