Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[Toadhall Saint]

1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Tell me how well goalkeepers do in general in Russell Martin systems then we can have a chat

And this is the whole point. When Lurch had a defence and big Vic plus Morgan S in front of of him he seemed the best thing since sliced bread. When they went and we played a different system he looked very ordinary.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, benjii said:

It's not predictive.

No but so what? We are talking about a so-called statistical analysis here.

[Whitey Grandad]

3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

The worst by most stats. 
 

Yes, we got promoted despite him. And Martin. 
 

'Most stats' from how many sources?

[Hopper]

Back on topic. THB linked to Wet Spam if Aguerd leaves.

If the price is right, I'd take it.

[sfc4prem]

1 minute ago, Hopper said:

Back on topic. THB linked to Wet Spam if Aguerd leaves.

If the price is right, I'd take it.

I'd prefer to ship out Wood. If we sell THB we'd need to get a replacement, leaving us little time at all to do so...

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

I'd prefer to ship out Wood. If we sell THB we'd need to get a replacement, leaving us little time at all to do so...

I feel Wood is decent, especially in this league where you need brave physical defenders

[Hopper]

2 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

I'd prefer to ship out Wood. If we sell THB we'd need to get a replacement, leaving us little time at all to do so...

On the back of their performances in the shirt I'm just not sure I rate THB much further ahead of Wood but his price tag will be much higher.

If it freed up funds to look at the 9 (pending other outgoings) I think I'd give it a sniff.

[OldNick]

3 minutes ago, Hopper said:

On the back of their performances in the shirt I'm just not sure I rate THB much further ahead of Wood but his price tag will be much higher.

If it freed up funds to look at the 9 (pending other outgoings) I think I'd give it a sniff.

I dont get the hype of THB and so if we could claw in what we paid £20M or a little more then surely would be good. 

[skintsaint]

11 minutes ago, Hopper said:

THB linked to Wet Spam if Aguerd leaves

Really trying to nail down that relegation spot.

[23rdSaint]

Just now, skintsaint said:

Really trying to nail down that relegation spot.

My immediate thought, but also suggests that we did have Prem-quality players last season. Imagine what we could've done with a pragmatic manager

[sfc4prem]

14 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I feel Wood is decent, especially in this league where you need brave physical defenders

I agree, he has a tenacity about him and is one of those old school, dive in front of a shot type defenders.

I feel he has the potential to make errors that give the opposition scoring opportunities, though.

[hypochondriac]

25 million let THB go and buy a striker. Jobs a goodun.

Edited Saturday at 11:42 by hypochondriac

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said:

My immediate thought, but also suggests that we did have Prem-quality players last season. Imagine what we could've done with a pragmatic manager

We had about 4 prem quality players. The rest weren't even great for the championship.

Edited Saturday at 11:43 by hypochondriac

[Smirking_Saint]

3 hours ago, trousers said:

Playing devil's advocate, isn't the whole point of having a good keeper is that you've got someone who bails the team out when the defenders let you down...? (Of course, one answer to that is: have better defenders... Well, quite...)

Missed the point spectacularly 

[23rdSaint]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We had about 3 prem quality players. The rest weren't even great for the championship.

I mean that's wrong, but okay

 

I saw your sneaky edit, but still wrong

Edited Saturday at 11:49 by 23rdSaint
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[SWLondon Saint]

For anyone hankering after Johansson, he just dropped a corner for an oppo tap in after earlier misjudging a cross and nearly carrying it into his own goal. 👀

[MarkSFC]

Sell THB, Edozie, BBD, Smallbone, Aribo, and Bree. 

Buy Charlie Cresswell, Jonathan Rowe and Josh Sargent. 

Job done. 

[MarkSFC]

Just now, SWLondon Saint said:

For anyone hankering after Johansson, he just dropped a corner for an oppo tap in after earlier misjudging a cross and nearly carrying it into his own goal. 👀

Perfect for us then

 

[Whitey Grandad]

27 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

I'd prefer to ship out Wood. If we sell THB we'd need to get a replacement, leaving us little time at all to do so...

Is that the 'Dead Wood'?

[Smirking_Saint]

1 minute ago, SWLondon Saint said:

For anyone hankering after Johansson, he just dropped a corner for an oppo tap in after earlier misjudging a cross and nearly carrying it into his own goal. 👀

Btw

Id read this about him, exceptional shot stopper but prone to a clanger, which I guess is why nobody higher up the divisions have taken a punt on him

[gio1saints]

THB defends AND scores goals. Don’t sell THB. It’s a bad idea. 

[Toadhall Saint]

https://sportwitness.co.uk/belief-winger-is-on-his-way-to-southampton-minor-fee-player-attracted-by-destination/

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said:

I mean that's wrong, but okay

 

I saw your sneaky edit, but still wrong

Hardly sneaky I forgot about Ramsdale. How is it wrong? THB wasn't good enough be a starter, Manning isn't  a prem player, neither is Fraser or any of our strikers. Downes wasn't, ugochukwu debatable but probably not. Ramsdale, kwp, Dibling for half a season and Fernandes were.

[SWLondon Saint]

4 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Btw

Id read this about him, exceptional shot stopper but prone to a clanger, which I guess is why nobody higher up the divisions have taken a punt on him

Definitely does not look a happy camper with crosses, think he badly misjudged one in the Fellows highlights as well...

[Sheaf Saint]

2 hours ago, scumbag said:

Cheers. 

Withdraw the assertion accordingly.

I wouldn't be so quick to if I were you. Once again, Whitey has demonstrated that he doesn't actually understand how PSxG is calculated, despite having had it explained to him on numerous occasions.

This statement, for example, is absolutely untrue:

2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

It doesn't take into account small deflections caused by an attempted intervention,  for example, because it can't. So it doesn't. 

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I wouldn't be so quick to if I were you. Once again, Whitey has demonstrated that he doesn't actually understand how PSxG is calculated, despite having had it explained to him on numerous occasions.

This statement, for example, is absolutely untrue:

I've given up trying to explain it to people that stubbornly refuse to accept these stats do actually have some meaning. 

[Smirking_Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Hardly sneaky I forgot about Ramsdale. How is it wrong? THB wasn't good enough be a starter, Manning isn't  a prem player, neither is Fraser or any of our strikers. Downes wasn't, ugochukwu debatable but probably not. Ramsdale, kwp, Dibling for half a season and Fernandes were.

In fairness I agree our premiership recruitment was horrendous, we’d be left in the lurch by Wilcox, somehow decided we didn’t need another DoF and threw too much autonomy at Martin

By the looks of it, getting this team set the way we have now and keeping £80m of the sales profit is exceptional work and hopefully, all being well, sets us up to attack next year

[trousers]

20 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Missed the point spectacularly 

Which is what makes me fit in so well on this forum...

Edited Saturday at 12:07 by trousers

[Dusic]

Would be a shame to lose THB at this late stage. He has been promoted twice in a row and very good at this level. Pretty sure we would want well in excess of £25m which would surely put off any buyers unless they are totally desperate (that will be West Ham then...)

[Midfield_General]

Just now, Dusic said:

Would be a shame to lose THB at this late stage. He has been promoted twice in a row and very good at this level. Pretty sure we would want well in excess of £25m which would surely put off any buyers unless they are totally desperate (that will be West Ham then...)

If It’s West Ham I’d add another £5m minimum for exactly that reason. They are desperate and panicking. 

[beatlesaint]

3 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

If It’s West Ham I’d add another £5m minimum for exactly that reason. They are desperate and panicking. 

Not sure buying a defender for £25 million who was bloody abysmal last season is gonna impress their entitled fans 🤣

[Hopper]

3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Not sure buying a defender for £25 million who was bloody abysmal last season is gonna impress their entitled fans 🤣

“It’ll be £15 million and you’ll like it.” - @WestHamCentral (probably)

Edited Saturday at 12:23 by Hopper

[lambtiss]

58 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I feel Wood is decent, especially in this league where you need brave physical defenders

He was dreadful against Norwich

[Wade Garrett]

42 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

For anyone hankering after Johansson, he just dropped a corner for an oppo tap in after earlier misjudging a cross and nearly carrying it into his own goal. 👀

Never rated him.

[sockeye]

19 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Would be a shame to lose THB at this late stage. He has been promoted twice in a row and very good at this level. Pretty sure we would want well in excess of £25m which would surely put off any buyers unless they are totally desperate (that will be West Ham then...)

He is great at this level, but we have quite a few CBs especially if we're imminently returning to 4 at the back. For £25m I'd definitely cash in especially since he's too sluggish for the PL.

[hypochondriac]

34 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

In fairness I agree our premiership recruitment was horrendous, we’d be left in the lurch by Wilcox, somehow decided we didn’t need another DoF and threw too much autonomy at Martin

By the looks of it, getting this team set the way we have now and keeping £80m of the sales profit is exceptional work and hopefully, all being well, sets us up to attack next year

We are extremely lucky that we struck it lucky with Fernandes and that Dibling came good. Without them this season would probably have been much more painful as we didn't have many more sellable assets.

[UpweySaint]

46 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

Sell THB, Edozie, BBD, Smallbone, Aribo, and Bree. 

Buy Charlie Cresswell, Jonathan Rowe and Josh Sargent. 

Job done. 

Rowe has gone to Bologna. Can’t imagine Cresswell coming cheap or Sargent coming at all.

[Willo of Whiteley]

I don’t think Saints would entertain an offer from West Ham for any player at the moment, unless they’re paying massively over the asking price to the points where their pants get pulled down.

Call it the “Fernandes Tap-Up Tax”.

[Scoobysaint]

I wouldn’t be against selling THB for anything more than we paid for him. I’m not convinced that he’s a quality Premier league CB. He may grow into one in time but may be best to cash in now and reinvest. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Does it matter if he was the worst or just pretty crap? Two seasons ago he was pretty crap and the metric I used to come to that decision is my own eyes. This season he appear improved but it's only been three games and I am concerned about having to rely on him all season if things start going wrong.

Indeed, the only stat that really matters for a keeper is what goes into the net behind him.

Baz doesn't save shots which he should. We can all see that. 

I'd like an upgrade, but it's not happening. 

[sockeye]

I don’t think we need a striker right now, the money saved on a good striker this year can help fund a Rolls-Royce one the summer we are promoted

think Archer will come good in not too much time

[Hopper]

Downes not travelled due to ‘illness’ could it be transfer related? Russ needs a lifeline right now.

[skintsaint]

1 minute ago, Hopper said:

Downes not travelled due to ‘illness’ could it be transfer related? Russ needs a lifeline right now.

Was thinking maybe more Ipswich as they are long time suitors, if he does leave.

[BARCELONASAINT]

1 minute ago, Hopper said:

Downes not travelled due to ‘illness’ could it be transfer related? Russ needs a lifeline right now.

Hmmm, i have been saying for ages he does not want to be here. His performance so far have been half hearted imho. I wouldn't be surprised if he was off.

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Hopper said:

Downes not travelled due to ‘illness’ could it be transfer related? Russ needs a lifeline right now.

But he was named in the original 11, so he must have travelled?

[block17]

3 minutes ago, Hopper said:

Downes not travelled due to ‘illness’ could it be transfer related? Russ needs a lifeline right now.

He is here. He was doing a small warm up about 20 minutes ago I guess to test how he felt. Guess it didn't go to well! 

[Hopper]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

But he was named in the original 11, so he must have travelled?

Yeah saw that, may have misread somewhere.

[Eagle778]

Did yesterday’s chicken korma not go down well then?

[Matthew Le God]

13 minutes ago, Hopper said:

Downes not travelled due to ‘illness’ could it be transfer related? Russ needs a lifeline right now.

He did travel. He was named in the team 75 minutes before kickoff. Ruled out through illness since arriving at the stadium.

Rangers couldn't afford him.

Edited Saturday at 13:16 by Matthew Le God

[Kermitzasaint]

3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Always?

No random system is truly random and depending on the methodology they will all have inherent biases. As far as I know there is only the one source for these fact-fodders. What I am saying is use your own eyes and experience to judge. Don't try to back up your judgment with numbers that seem to agree with your own prejudiced views.

My eyes tell me Bazunu is utter rubbish. I don't need XG bollocks to know that