Dman Posted yesterday at 07:45 Posted yesterday at 07:45 1 hour ago, Toussaint said: If he’s good, well done Johannes. If his bad…eff you Wankerson and your Danish nepotism! Good point... He would have been signed for Brentford whilst Ankerson was still there?
Farmer Saint Posted yesterday at 07:47 Posted yesterday at 07:47 13 minutes ago, Chez said: Lots of nice words on their forum as was the case with Charlie Taylor, but when I read "he took a lot of stick, a lot undeserved", "got pelters for playing it safe" and "championship is his level", maybe there is some devil in the detail? We don't want championship level players, we want players that can win the league and play at that PL level. However, on the flip side, when I read "did a great job of marking a winger from the top 6 out of the game" that sounds pretty promising. I'm nervous because I dont know his game and the last few fullbacks have not been inspiring signings. I'm sure I'll get over it once I've seen him in the flesh. Bree and Sugawara are not up to it. So if he isn't better than them a change is required in his our scouting. What you have to remember is that Suga is a wing back, as was KWP. Neither were good enough defensively in a 4, and was one of the reasons our defence has been so bad in the last 4 years. Having a safe right back should allow our wingers (in Still's preferred formation) to stay forward and not have to cover as much defensively. He also doesn't need to be PL quality, he just needs to be good enough as a backup when we do get promoted. Think of Dan Harding, but on the right. 4
trousers Posted yesterday at 07:49 Posted yesterday at 07:49 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Chez said: Lots of nice words on their forum as was the case with Charlie Taylor, but when I read "he took a lot of stick, a lot undeserved", "got pelters for playing it safe" and "championship is his level", maybe there is some devil in the detail? We don't want championship level players, we want players that can win the league and play at that PL level. It is of course reasonable to question his credentials (even though expressing doubt inevitably attracts the wrath of some on here)... The way I look at any transfer such as this is: "Why are Brentford seemingly happy to sell a player in his prime (26 years old), and a fan favourite to boot, when he's played over 100 PL games and a club like them surely needs players of that ilk to survive in that league?" The only logical answer is that they don't see him as high enough calibre in the PL now, even if they did beforehand. You could understand it if he was being enticed away by a better club, but this is a downward move for a relatively low transfer fee (supposedly / probably). Don't get me wrong, I think he's a great acquisition for a Championship side but if/when we go straight back up, the stark fact is that we'll have a player on our books that Brentford deemed not good enough for the PL anymore (or, at least, they feel there's better players available than him) So, yep, it's reasonable to look ahead and ponder if he'll work out in the long term, at the same time as being happy to have him for this season. Edited yesterday at 07:54 by trousers 2
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 07:56 Posted yesterday at 07:56 7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: What you have to remember is that Suga is a wing back, as was KWP. Neither were good enough defensively in a 4, and was one of the reasons our defence has been so bad in the last 4 years. Having a safe right back should allow our wingers (in Still's preferred formation) to stay forward and not have to cover as much defensively. He also doesn't need to be PL quality, he just needs to be good enough as a backup when we do get promoted. Think of Dan Harding, but on the right. Plus if we did go up this season, Bree is out of contract, and most of the squad would be replaced anyway. But this guy has proven he can play regularly in the English and German top flights for mid-lower mid table clubs so at worst would be second choice/competition to a new RB. If we don’t, he will be one of the better RBs in the Chanpionship. 4
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 07:58 Posted yesterday at 07:58 7 minutes ago, trousers said: It is of course reasonable to question his credentials (even though expressing doubt inevitably attracts the wrath of some on here)... The way I look at any transfer such as this is: "Why are Brentford seemingly happy to sell a player in his prime (26 years old), and a fan favourite to boot, when he's played over 100 PL games and a club like them surely needs players of that ilk to survive in that league?" The only logical answer is that they don't see him as high enough calibre in the PL now, even if they did beforehand. You could understand it if he was being enticed away by a better club, but this is a downward move for a relatively low transfer fee (supposedly / probably). Don't get me wrong, I think he's a great acquisition for a Championship side but if/when we go straight back up, the stark fact is that we'll have a player on our books that Brentford deemed not good enough for the PL anymore (or, at least, they feel there's better players available than him) So, yep, it's reasonable to look ahead and ponder if he'll work out in the long term, at the same time as being happy to have him for this season. Maybe they don't see him as a high enough calibre for a team in their position? That being a team that fits nished comfortably mid table last season and with significant strength in the right back area. 4
trousers Posted yesterday at 07:59 Posted yesterday at 07:59 11 minutes ago, Dman said: Good point... He would have been signed for Brentford whilst Ankerson was still there? Yep... Roerslev joined Brentford in August 2019 and Ankersen left in December 2021. This transfer surely has Ankersen's finger prints all over it (I'm not making any judgement on that basis though)
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 07:59 Posted yesterday at 07:59 5 minutes ago, trousers said: It is of course reasonable to question his credentials (even though expressing doubt inevitably attracts the wrath of some on here)... The way I look at any transfer such as this is: "Why are Brentford seemingly happy to sell a player in his prime (26 years old), and a fan favourite to boot, when he's played over 100 PL games and a club like them surely needs players of that ilk to survive in that league?" The only logical answer is that they don't see him as high enough calibre in the PL now, even if they did beforehand. You could understand it if he was being enticed away by a better club (exhibit A: Kyle Walker Peters from us to West Ham) but this is a downward move for a relatively low transfer fee (supposedly / probably). I think he's a great acquisition for a Championship side but if/when we go straight back up, the stark fact is that we'll have a player on our books that Brentford deemed not good enough for the PL anymore (or, at least, they feel there's better players available than him) So, yep, it's reasonable to look ahead and ponder if he'll work out in the long term, at the same time as being happy to have him for this season. How I see it is that he was reasonable enough at that level to allow Brentford to establish and stabilise in the PL. They've now evolved their full back positions with better players, so he's dropped down the pecking order. I think they signed that Kayode guy this summer for £20m or such. Yes, people are now looking at Brentford to struggle - but it's because of what they've lost in attack, as opposed to what they have across the wider team. They evolved on from Mads, but it's not to say he wasn't part of the setup which established them in the PL in the first place. There is a risk that sometimes you can look too far ahead with signings, I think you have to take what he can offer us today. We've all called for players ready to come 'straight in' rather than 'young with potential', well this guy - and Azaz - will be players who can come straight in and immediately lift up the side in our weak positions. Absolute no brainer for me. 12
trousers Posted yesterday at 08:00 Posted yesterday at 08:00 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Maybe they don't see him as a high enough calibre for a team in their position? That being a team that fits nished comfortably mid table last season and with significant strength in the right back area. Yes, absolutely. But isn't that the level we should be aiming to be at if/when we return...? 1
Little Lat Pahars Posted yesterday at 08:00 Posted yesterday at 08:00 6 minutes ago, trousers said: It is of course reasonable to question his credentials (even though expressing doubt inevitably attracts the wrath of some on here)... The way I look at any transfer such as this is: "Why are Brentford seemingly happy to sell a player in his prime (26 years old), and a fan favourite to boot, when he's played over 100 PL games and a club like them surely needs players of that ilk to survive in that league?" The only logical answer is that they don't see him as high enough calibre in the PL now, even if they did beforehand. You could understand it if he was being enticed away by a better club, but this is a downward move for a relatively low transfer fee (supposedly / probably). I think he's a great acquisition for a Championship side but if/when we go straight back up, the stark fact is that we'll have a player on our books that Brentford deemed not good enough for the PL anymore (or, at least, they feel there's better players available than him) So, yep, it's reasonable to look ahead and ponder if he'll work out in the long term, at the same time as being happy to have him for this season. He seems a sensible signing to me. Attracting players that will be good enough to play in the Prem for a current Championship team is difficult and expensive in both transfer fees and wages. To me this seems like a good signing for a championship team and one that should be ok to do a job for a newly promoted team if we go up. If we don't sign anyone because they are not Brentford current levels then we would be signing no-one this summer. 5
trousers Posted yesterday at 08:01 Posted yesterday at 08:01 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: How I see it is that he was reasonable enough at that level to allow Brentford to establish and stabilise in the PL. They've now evolved their full back positions with better players, so he's dropped down the pecking order. I think they signed that Kayode guy this summer for £20m or such. Yes, people are now looking at Brentford to struggle - but it's because of what they've lost in attack, as opposed to what they have across the wider team. They evolved on from Mads, but it's not to say he wasn't part of the setup which established them in the PL in the first place. There is a risk that sometimes you can look too far ahead with signings, I think you have to take what he can offer us today. We've all called for players ready to come 'straight in' rather than 'young with potential', well this guy - and Azaz - will be players who can come straight in and immediately lift up the side in our weak positions. Absolute no brainer for me. Yeah, fair point 👍🏻
trousers Posted yesterday at 08:01 Posted yesterday at 08:01 Just now, Little Lat Pahars said: He seems a sensible signing to me. Attracting players that will be good enough to play in the Prem for a current Championship team is difficult and expensive in both transfer fees and wages. To me this seems like a good signing for a championship team and one that should be ok to do a job for a newly promoted team if we go up. If we don't sign anyone because they are not Brentford current levels then we would be signing no-one this summer. Yep, fair point too 👍🏻
trousers Posted yesterday at 08:07 Posted yesterday at 08:07 (edited) Just to be clear, I'm really happy with this signing. It's just that I get slightly nervous / wary after last year's shit show where we ended up having too many Championship standard and/or mediocre Premier League players on our books after the promotion transfer window. That said, I'm rather optimistic that Sport Republic have learned from those mistakes and we'll invest in some proper PL quality next time around rather than faffing around in the sub-£20m market.... P.s. I'm getting slightly light headed expressing an actual opinion rather than sitting on the fence... Edited yesterday at 08:09 by trousers 3 3
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 08:10 Posted yesterday at 08:10 Just now, trousers said: Just to be clear, I'm really happy with this signing. It's just that I get slightly nervous / wary after last year's shit show where we ended up having too many Championship standard and/or mediocre Premier League players in our squad after promotion. That said, I'm rather optimistic that Sport Republic have learned from those mistakes and we'll invest in some proper PL quality next time around rather than faffing around in the sub-£20m market.... I get you, we've dealt with crappy signing over crappy signing for what feels like a decade - but this sort of signing feels like a bit of common sense for a change, and a 'now' signing and a step away from buying kids with up sale. This guy has been signed to make us better today, rather than a view to make us a profit in the future. 3
ally_uk Posted yesterday at 08:11 Posted yesterday at 08:11 Our fan's are a bunch of wet fannies sometimes. We are in the Championship! I'm not sure what calibre of player you want us to sign? We have got a Premier League experienced player, What's not to like........ Good bit of business., happy with that. 2
Nordic Saint Posted yesterday at 08:11 Posted yesterday at 08:11 (edited) I remember him well from this game. He is No.30: Southampton sweep past Brentford at St Mary's | Football News | Sky Sports Edited yesterday at 08:12 by Nordic Saint
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 08:12 Posted yesterday at 08:12 (edited) 10 minutes ago, trousers said: That said, I'm rather optimistic that Sport Republic have learned from those mistakes and we'll invest in some proper PL quality next time around rather than faffing around in the sub-£20m market.... P.s. I'm getting slightly light headed expressing an actual opinion rather than sitting on the fence... Wasn't that the market we got our three best players of recent years in Fernandes, Lavia and Livramento? All of which were ready to start straight away and performed extremely well! 🤔 😉 I do agree though that we need a different approach and get some bigger money signings in after a promotion. Edited 23 hours ago by Matthew Le God 2
tdmickey3 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 7 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Our fan's are a bunch of wet fannies sometimes. We are in the Championship! I'm not sure what calibre of player you want us to sign? We have got a Premier League experienced player, What's not to like........ Good bit of business., happy with that. Lol, says you who puts up at least a couple of ridiculous wish lists every window
StrangelyBrown Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Seems silly to prejudge this one. On paper he looks like a safe option for this year and the jury is out of we get promoted. Fundamentally we need a new right back and we've now got one.
benjii Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago What a load of waffle. "He might not be good enough if we get promoted..." So fucking what?! Prem experience, settled in the country, did very well in Champ previously, 9 out of 10 Champ clubs would love to have him. Good signing. 13
saint michael Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 6 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: Seems silly to prejudge this one. On paper he looks like a safe option for this year and the jury is out of we get promoted. Fundamentally we need a new right back and we've now got one. Don’t worry he will only need prem experience for 1 season 2
Maggie May Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Dman said: Good point... He would have been signed for Brentford whilst Ankerson was still there? His surname is actually Rasmussen. No joke.
saintant Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 8 hours ago, lhammondo said: Are you high ffs? Kwp was one of our best players consistently for the last 2 or 3 seasons and this reject is an upgrade? All I'm saying is that I think this guy will provide more solid defensive cover than KWP who, let's face it, was excellent going forward but not the greatest at his defensive duties. Ok for you to disagree without suggesting I'm on some kind of illegal substances so calm down ffs. 2
CSA96 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Is Mads available for the Stoke game? Signed before the cut-off of midday today, so presuming no paperwork issues then yes, he should be 2
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 43 minutes ago, trousers said: Just to be clear, I'm really happy with this signing. It's just that I get slightly nervous / wary after last year's shit show where we ended up having too many Championship standard and/or mediocre Premier League players on our books after the promotion transfer window. That said, I'm rather optimistic that Sport Republic have learned from those mistakes and we'll invest in some proper PL quality next time around rather than faffing around in the sub-£20m market.... P.s. I'm getting slightly light headed expressing an actual opinion rather than sitting on the fence... stop that opinion stuff - else I’ll be calling imposter and that you have had your account hacked. 2
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 42 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Our fan's are a bunch of wet fannies sometimes. We are in the Championship! I'm not sure what calibre of player you want us to sign? We have got a Premier League experienced player, What's not to like........ Good bit of business., happy with that. Rather a wet one than a dry one tbh.
trousers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 45 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Wasn't that the market we got our three best players of recent years in Fernandes, Lavia and Livramento? All of which were ready to start straight away and performed extremely well! 🤔 😉 I do agree though that we need a different approach and get some bigger money signings in after a promotion. Yeah, fair point (although maybe "the exceptions that prove the rule" territory...?) One thing you can never accuse me of is thinking too hard about what I post, which it why it often comes out as utter drivel... If only some others on here had similar levels of introspection and self-awareness... Edited 23 hours ago by trousers
trousers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 47 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Our fan's are a bunch of wet fannies sometimes. We are in the Championship! I'm not sure what calibre of player you want us to sign? We have got a Premier League experienced player, What's not to like........ Good bit of business., happy with that. Who's saying they're not happy with this signing...? It's almost as if some people are being "wet fannies" in their reactions to others' posts... 1
trousers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 18 minutes ago, saintant said: All I'm saying is that I think this guy will provide more solid defensive cover than KWP who, let's face it, was excellent going forward but not the greatest at his defensive duties. Ok for you to disagree without suggesting I'm on some kind of illegal substances so calm down ffs. You should know by now that expressing a different point of view on here is often frowned upon... 2
DT Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Danish. Brentford. Hmmm. Can't THINK who had a hand in this one. Looks okay though - decent signing, especially if it means Sugawara does indeed move on. He's way off the quality of even the Championship.
trousers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 52 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I get you, we've dealt with crappy signing over crappy signing for what feels like a decade - but this sort of signing feels like a bit of common sense for a change, and a 'now' signing and a step away from buying kids with up sale. This guy has been signed to make us better today, rather than a view to make us a profit in the future. Yep, agree. All things considered it's a decent, refreshing signing 👍🏻
DT Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: First a nutter, now mads. Apparently we are in for Sane 6
saintant Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 54 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I get you, we've dealt with crappy signing over crappy signing for what feels like a decade - but this sort of signing feels like a bit of common sense for a change, and a 'now' signing and a step away from buying kids with up sale. This guy has been signed to make us better today, rather than a view to make us a profit in the future. I think the other thing to factor in is that this guy comes across as a terrific pro who takes his game really seriously and, in the words of the great Russ, will work and train like a beast. Will Still has regularly stated that we want good players who are also good people and, judging by the views of the Brentford fans, this guy ticks all the boxes. Think he's going to be very popular with the fans once he hits his stride. 4
trousers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: First a nutter, now mads. I'm hearing we've put a bid in for this lad... 2
hypochondriac Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, trousers said: Yes, absolutely. But isn't that the level we should be aiming to be at if/when we return...? I'm not sure we would be expecting a comfortable mid table finish immediately after promotion. 17th or just above that will be the achievable aim and this bloke in the squad seems like someone who could help accomplish that. 6
hypochondriac Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 12 minutes ago, trousers said: Who's saying they're not happy with this signing...? It's almost as if some people are being "wet fannies" in their reactions to others' posts... There's a couple on here saying they aren't happy with the signing and a few more suggesting that people are getting really excited about it when that isn't the case. It's not a sexy signing or overly ambitious, just a realistic sensible addition that can probably do a job for us in a higher league if the time comes. 4
tdmickey3 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 24 minutes ago, trousers said: I'm hearing we've put a bid in for this lad... Surely its David to add some experience and grit 1
Convict Colony Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Guys there was always insight about why we signed him. His full name is Mads Roerslev Rasmussen
dinosaint Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago I think he's out of contract in 6 months time so maybe he's not intending to renew and Brentford are trying to make a bit of money before then. 1
trousers Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 22 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: There's a couple on here saying they aren't happy with the signing and a few more suggesting that people are getting really excited about it when that isn't the case. It's not a sexy signing or overly ambitious, just a realistic sensible addition that can probably do a job for us in a higher league if the time comes. Yep, I guess the "wet fanny" accusers pick up on the vocal minority rather than pay attention to the pragmatism of the vast majority of posters....
trousers Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 32 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I'm not sure we would be expecting a comfortable mid table finish immediately after promotion. 17th or just above that will be the achievable aim and this bloke in the squad seems like someone who could help accomplish that. Yep, agree that's a reasonable ambition for a first season back, although some might hypothesise that you sometimes need to 'shoot for the stars to reach the moon'... (The other way around can sometimes work too of course... Back to my fence sitting best... ) Edited 22 hours ago by trousers
SNSUN Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Baird of the land said: First a nutter, now mads. We're linked with former Thai Leicester midfielder ThanaWAT SuengcHITthawon. Just to get someone with Twat and Shit in their name.
hypochondriac Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, trousers said: Yep, agree that's a reasonable ambition for a first season back, although some might hypothesise that you sometimes need to 'shoot for the stars to reach the moon'... (The other way around can sometimes work too of course... Back to my fence sitting best... ) Of course you want the best players possible but I expect we have a limited budget for players this summer and I'd rather we spend the bulk of it on attacking players given the choice. 1
trousers Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 22 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Of course you want the best players possible but I expect we have a limited budget for players this summer and I'd rather we spend the bulk of it on attacking players given the choice. Agreed 👍🏻
sockeye Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, Baird of the land said: First a nutter, now mads. Insane transfer window.
Willo of Whiteley Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, DT said: Danish. Brentford. Hmmm. Can't THINK who had a hand in this one. Looks okay though - decent signing, especially if it means Sugawara does indeed move on. He's way off the quality of even the Championship. Two and two together and potentially getting four, potentially getting five. You genuinely don’t know. I don’t see Rasmus being near this, he’s had little do to with incoming in recent times.
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 14 hours ago, Andrew Watson said: Not one Brentford fan on their forum had a bad word to say about him,that will do for me. Good luck and welcome Mads. Now we know why we can't move out any of our players. Not one Saints fan on their forum had a good word to say about any of them. Edited 19 hours ago by Charlie Wayman
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