Damion Downs

[Gloucester Saint]

43 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Here’s his player profile. No significant strengths 😂😂

Apart from that, he’s brilliant then. I’d play Damion Thorn up there - gives you a 6 out of 10 performance every time.

Edited October 7 by Gloucester Saint

[Baz Fl]

On 04/10/2025 at 14:27, coalman said:

If the lad is struggling for form and confidence you put him on when you're winning and comfortable. Not when it matters. That's twice in two games Still has hooked the winger that's looking most likely.

What should you do with a player struggling with football ability? 😜

[Midfield_General]

On 05/10/2025 at 16:47, Sunglasses Ron said:

I feel a mere explanation simply won’t do it justice, so I present it in three key images.

1. Ball comes to him from long;

2. Ball hits him (possibly in the nuts, but let’s do him a solid and say he did well to hold off his man and receive with the thigh); and

3. In one fluid motion the ball gets laid off to Azaz, who in turn sets up Fellows for our near winner.

In summary, we have lift off and this is hopefully the first of many more successful passes.

He laid one off with his nut sack in one of the early games as well. 

Maybe that's his thing. 

Someone tell WhoScored.com, they can put it down as a strength, give the boy some confidence in case he googles himself. 

 

 

[SW5 SAINT]

The days of Seko Mara now seem like a golden age……...to keep making the same mistake is the definition of stupidity…..

Edited October 7 by SW5 SAINT

[Patrick Bateman]

29 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

He laid one off with his nut sack in one of the early games as well. 

Maybe that's his thing. 

Someone tell WhoScored.com, they can put it down as a strength, give the boy some confidence in case he googles himself. 

 

 

Strength: Iron ball bag.

[Turkish]

3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Apart from that, he’s brilliant then. I’d play Damion Thorn up there - gives you a 6 out of 10 performance every time.

Saints fans reaction when they see Damions name on the team sheet (if you know the scene you know)

[Challenger]

Not too much of a gamble considering his cost, but a gamble well and truly lost nevertheless.

Edited October 7 by Challenger

[Göztepe]

 

Let him come to Göztepe on loan, Stoilov will fix him Romulo is playing well in Germany, as you know, and Emersonn scored 2 goals against Lyon. Not playing with two strikers could make him more comfortable.

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, Challenger said:

Not too much of a gamble considering his cost, but a gamble well and truly lost nevertheless.

It’s the opportunity cost though. 

His individual cost wasn’t that much* but gambling on him meant we didn’t buy someone else who could actually score goals for us as a CF. Now Stewart’s injured again, that decision means we don’t have anyone with the profile of a strong, oven-ready centre forward who can score the goals we need to challenge for the top of the table. If that decision means we miss out on promotion, as it could well do, then the cost of that utterly failed gamble is potentially £100m+. 

(*Although other teams in this division have also spent much less on centre forwards who are having much more impact) 

Edited October 7 by Midfield_General

[CB Fry]

4 hours ago, Challenger said:

Not too much of a gamble considering his cost, but a gamble well and truly lost nevertheless.

Seven million quid is fucking loads in the Championship.

We are two failed promotion attempts away from being barely able to pay that kind of money for players ever again.

Edited October 7 by CB Fry

[IFHP]

26 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Seven million quid is fucking loads in the Championship.

We are two failed promotion attempts from being barely able to pay that kind of money for players ever again.

Yet some fans think staying in the championship is a good thing .

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Göztepe said:

 

Let him come to Göztepe on loan, Stoilov will fix him Romulo is playing well in Germany, as you know, and Emersonn scored 2 goals against Lyon. Not playing with two strikers could make him more comfortable.

The way things are looking you may well get your wish.

[Saint_clark]

I think people are writing him off far too early. 5 league appearances, 4 as sub and a total of 183 minutes - so basically 2 games. 

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

I think people are writing him off far too early. 5 league appearances, 4 as sub and a total of 183 minutes - so basically 2 games. 

Sorry Saint_clark but I think we have every right to write him off. Originally, he looked like a Sekou Mara v2 but that's a disservice to Mara. Downs has an incredibly poor touch, can't head, can't hold the ball up, can't pass - can't do anything useful.

It's trendy to revert to lumps up front who can boss a defence. We could do a lot worse than follow this trend. Aribo anyone?

[Badger]

8 hours ago, Turkish said:

Here’s his player profile. No significant strengths 😂😂

Their match day ratings of over 6 seem a bit generous 

[AlexLaw76]

3 hours ago, Challenger said:

Not too much of a gamble considering his cost, but a gamble well and truly lost nevertheless.

Not too much of a gamble?

are you mad?

[BarberSaint]

8 hours ago, pingpong said:

He can still come good. He's very young, has had a rough time settling in off the pitch (USA games, lots of moving around), and he's only had what, 200mins of game time so far?

Personally I'd like still to keep giving him minutes, and at least he has a chance of coming good, I wouldn't give up on him yet, it's not like he is keeping le tiss out of the team.

Which were excuses we all used for Mateus Fernandes, weren't they?

 

 

[BarberSaint]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

I think people are writing him off far too early. 5 league appearances, 4 as sub and a total of 183 minutes - so basically 2 games. 

Or 183 minutes of complete turd.

[Challenger]

59 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not too much of a gamble?

are you mad?

From a SR point of view and their priority objective of making a profit on player purchases, they have drawn yet another dud from a not too massive outlay.

From the perspective view of progressing the team to a level of realistic hopes of promotion, it's an absolute disaster especially with the injury to Stewart.

[pingpong]

1 hour ago, BarberSaint said:

Which were excuses we all used for Mateus Fernandes, weren't they?

 

 

They are the same age, but fernandes was a premier league signing, with decent pedigree. Also midfield, where the pressure to score is less and getting service and possession is much easier. 

A better comparison would be pelle, who also got dogs abuse when he started but turned out to be decent.

[CB Fry]

8 hours ago, Challenger said:

From a SR point of view and their priority objective of making a profit on player purchases, they have drawn yet another dud from a not too massive outlay.

From the perspective view of progressing the team to a level of realistic hopes of promotion, it's an absolute disaster especially with the injury to Stewart.

Still not sure where you're getting "not a massive outlay" from.

This summer only Ipswich and Wrexham (and us) spent more than his fee on an individual player.

Downs is about 12th in fees paid for any player in the whole league. His fee is more than half the league clubs paid out in total for all their signings this summer.

I don't know why you are pretending otherwise.

Edited October 8 by CB Fry

[benjii]

For strengths, you've put, "not sure"...

 

[Challenger]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Still not sure where you're getting "not a massive outlay" from.

This summer only Ipswich and Wrexham (and us) spent more than his fee on an individual player.

Downs is about 12th in fees paid for any player in the whole league. His fee is more than half the league clubs paid out in total for all their signings this summer.

I don't know why you are pretending otherwise.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that SR have wasted more than this on other shite players . You are however correct in stating the fact of now being a Championship club the context of this waste is more profound.

Until SR move away from these data driven gambles, then the club is destined to either stagnate or decline.

Already some are looking towards the January transfer window as some sort of salvation, which in fact will probably only lead to yet more gambles of this type.

 

[hypochondriac]

16 hours ago, Challenger said:

Not too much of a gamble considering his cost, but a gamble well and truly lost nevertheless.

The gamble bit isn't the money- although that is a sizable amount for this league- the gamble was making him our only signing in an area that required us to replace Adams with some actual quality. Absolute madness to make one signing with potential in an area that can destroy our season if not sorted correctly. 

[Roo1976]

19 hours ago, Baz Fl said:

What should you do with a player struggling with football ability? 😜

don't fucking pick him would be a start,then just play him in b team matches and then try to loan/transfer out .Should be nowhere near the first team ,offers nothing and hasn't got the awareness nor ability to make it,just blocking up another team mates progression IMO.

[CheshireSaint]

25 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

The gamble bit isn't the money- although that is a sizable amount for this league- the gamble was making him our only signing in an area that required us to replace Adams with some actual quality. Absolute madness to make one signing with potential in an area that can destroy our season if not sorted correctly. 

Common sense would have been to get a 'decent' CF in who has perhaps already reached his ceiling but gives you a solid return, a Kiefer Moore / McBurney type and then to have a little gamble on a player who isn't pulling up trees but could turn out to be a gem. A Downs type (if Downs had any potential at all) that could be eased in. In horse racing terms, you'd back a short price horse who you know has form, and then maybe an each way bet on a progressive horse making its debut but from a good yard, good breeding etc. that is a longer price. Instead, we backed Donkey Downs at 50/1 on the nose, for the Derby, based on having had mediocre success in a class 3 at Cologne (it has a race track so the analogy works). If Downs was a horse, minced beef and onion crispy pancakes beckon. Anyway, I've just talked myself into having a tipple. Wish me luck.

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

The gamble bit isn't the money- although that is a sizable amount for this league- the gamble was making him our only signing in an area that required us to replace Adams with some actual quality. Absolute madness to make one signing with potential in an area that can destroy our season if not sorted correctly. 

Remember when Solak said he was happy for 3 important signings before th need to shift players?

one of those signings was the striker we wanted

massive fucking LoLz

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, CheshireSaint said:

Common sense would have been to get a 'decent' CF in who has perhaps already reached his ceiling but gives you a solid return, a Kiefer Moore / McBurney type and then to have a little gamble on a player who isn't pulling up trees but could turn out to be a gem. A Downs type (if Downs had any potential at all) that could be eased in. In horse racing terms, you'd back a short price horse who you know has form, and then maybe an each way bet on a progressive horse making its debut but from a good yard, good breeding etc. that is a longer price. Instead, we backed Donkey Downs at 50/1 on the nose, for the Derby, based on having had mediocre success in a class 3 at Cologne (it has a race track so the analogy works). If Downs was a horse, minced beef and onion crispy pancakes beckon. Anyway, I've just talked myself into having a tipple. Wish me luck.

100%. Look I understand most fans would have been underwhelmed by something like that but a club run properly with a decent plan would have done similar.

[John B]

9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

100%. Look I understand most fans would have been underwhelmed by something like that but a club run properly with a decent plan would have done similar.

The club wants to make money on transfer deals I am not really sure it is driven by results on the pitch

[Gloucester Saint]

32 minutes ago, John B said:

The club wants to make money on transfer deals I am not really sure it is driven by results on the pitch

This is the crux of it and their business model simply doesn’t work any more than Mike Ashley’s did at Newcastle. 

[Daft Kerplunk]

I think we all know the club's approach of only looking at possible resale value is flawed and Damion Downs is looking like the next in a long line of poor recruitment choices.  However, as a human being, he does not deserve any abuse though, he is a Spors signing so Spors is the person who should accept responsibility and take the deserved shit based on what Downs has shown so far.  

[ally_uk]

Surely he must have something about him? That goal during preseason I thought fuck me boys we got a goodun here 🤣🤣🤣

[sledger]

if you watch him hes trying to do the same as armstrong which is play on the shoulder to run on to things,however saints bought him as a target man and he clearly isnt that so that begs the question did saints actually scout him,ie watch him i would say clearly not because if they had it would be clear he wasnt a target man and couldnt trap a bag of cement if it fell on his head.

[ally_uk]

We need someone like Mitrovic / Pelle / Chris Wood.

Some with a bit of actual presence and strength about them and can actually head a fucking football 🤣🤣🤣

[benjii]

The mere fact that there exist Saints fans who think we should have signed Ollie McBurnie shows what a roaringly, devastatingly, trouseringly bad job Sports Republic has done.

[John B]

40 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

We need someone like Mitrovic / Pelle / Chris Wood.

Some with a bit of actual presence and strength about them and can actually head a fucking football 🤣🤣🤣

I agree but nobody like that is currently going to come to St Mary's at the moment you have to be realistic we are not a club on the up

[Saint Fan CaM]

8 minutes ago, John B said:

I agree but nobody like that is currently going to come to St Mary's at the moment you have to be realistic we are not a club on the up

That gives the club an easy out in my view. With £15m + wages spent on Downs and Stewart (for example) we could have tempted a good range of strikers to join - instead we spunked it on a crock and a guy that would struggle in L1. How did Derby manage to scout/sign their US striker (can’t remember name) - he would be 10 times better than what we currently have to endure. 4-5 seasons of utter blindness to the need for a solid CF now. Urgent action needed Mr. Spors!

[Saint Mikey]

On 08/10/2025 at 11:57, John B said:

The club wants to make money on transfer deals I am not really sure it is driven by results on the pitch

People keep saying this. But if this is the case, then they are doing a fucking bad job at it. We must be massively down on transfer income in, compared to out.

[SouSaint]

7 hours ago, Saint Mikey said:

People keep saying this. But if this is the case, then they are doing a fucking bad job at it. We must be massively down on transfer income in, compared to out.

They made significant profit on Lavia and Fernandes, and a profit on Alcaraz but that's it as far as their signings go. Everyone else seems to have been sold at a loss but they managed to recoup good fees for Mara and Sulemana. 

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, SouSaint said:

They made significant profit on Lavia and Fernandes, and a profit on Alcaraz but that's it as far as their signings go. Everyone else seems to have been sold at a loss but they managed to recoup good fees for Mara and Sulemana. 

Dibling?

 

[sockeye]

To be honest, going up in 2023-24 may have been the worst thing for us as it seems to have convinced SR we can half-arse our way to promotion.

[BARCELONASAINT]

Just now, sockeye said:

To be honest, going up in 2023-24 may have been the worst thing for us as it seems to have convinced SR we can half-arse our way to promotion.

only a bunch of morons would believe that....oh wait one!

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, sockeye said:

To be honest, going up in 2023-24 may have been the worst thing for us as it seems to have convinced SR we can half-arse our way to promotion.

Behave yourself 

[pingpong]

13 hours ago, Saint Mikey said:

People keep saying this. But if this is the case, then they are doing a fucking bad job at it. We must be massively down on transfer income in, compared to out.

So since sports republic came in, we have spent a total of 355 million euros on players coming in, and we've received 362 million euros on players going out.

So not a massive disaster. The losses from our sulemanas and our onuachus etc are more than offset by the diblings fernandes and lavias

[badgerx16]

12 minutes ago, pingpong said:

So since sports republic came in, we have a total of 355 million euros on players coming in, and we've received 362 million euros on players going out.

So not a massive disaster. The losses from our sulemanas and our onuachus etc are more than offset by the diblings fernandes and lavias

Less than 2% return on investment.

[Midfield_General]

23 hours ago, pingpong said:

So since sports republic came in, we have spent a total of 355 million euros on players coming in, and we've received 362 million euros on players going out.

So not a massive disaster. The losses from our sulemanas and our onuachus etc are more than offset by the diblings fernandes and lavias

‘Not a massive disaster’?

When Sport Republic bought us we were 12th in the Premier League. Now we’re 17th in the Championship. How is that not a disaster for what was an established top flight club? 

Looking at success purely through the lens of how much money we do/ don’t make is exactly what’s got us into this mess. It’s bad enough that SR do it, we don’t need the fans doing it as well. 

But even if you do look at it like that, they haven’t made any money either, and they’ve made the club less valuable than when they bought it.

So by any key metric, their ownership strategy is a failure. 

Edited Saturday at 08:07 by Midfield_General

[AlexLaw76]

26 minutes ago, pingpong said:

So since sports republic came in, we have spent a total of 355 million euros on players coming in, and we've received 362 million euros on players going out.

So not a massive disaster. The losses from our sulemanas and our onuachus etc are more than offset by the diblings fernandes and lavias

Sports Republic are terrible owners 

[Saint Mikey]

47 minutes ago, pingpong said:

So since sports republic came in, we have spent a total of 355 million euros on players coming in, and we've received 362 million euros on players going out.

So not a massive disaster. The losses from our sulemanas and our onuachus etc are more than offset by the diblings fernandes and lavias

How many of these were sales of players that were already here when SR rocked up? JWP, Tella, Tino, Salisu, Romeu, Dibling count in that bracket - so that's £120/£130m you can chalk off.

On actual players that they have bought and then sold, we must be massively down. Shit on and off the pitch in all honesty.

[SouSaint]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Dibling?

 

Already in the academy setup when SR took the club over. 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Less than 2% return on investment.

From selling assets that depreciate.

Add in TV revenue etc and the figures may look different.

Certainly doesn't look like the PSR car crash some claim...