Damion Downs

[Wade Garrett]

On 16/10/2025 at 12:10, James G said:

If you read his scouting reports, he is regarded quite highly and has alot of assets. I think he just needs time to adapt. He has only played the equivalent of 2 full games so far in minutes this season

Not interested in scouting reports probably put together by some stats guy who never played the game.  Just what I see myself.

We could have signed Kone for a third of the price but that doesn’t work for the fucking stats geeks in charge with their history in banking.  What the fuck do we know!!

[AlexLaw76]

24 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Not interested in scouting reports probably put together by some stats guy who never played the game.  Just what I see myself.

We could have signed Kone for a third of the price but that doesn’t work for the fucking stats geeks in charge with their history in banking.  What the fuck do we know!!

I have been consistent - Kieffer Moore!!!!

Edited 3 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[BARCELONASAINT]

I would love to hear a view of Downs ability from one of his team mates who see him day in day out in training. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely to happen unless it's very positive comments which you do occasionally here from players about new members of the team.

I don't understand why he was on the bench yesterday if WS never had any intention on using him. The lads confidence must be rock bottom already and then having to watch yesterday a game that was crying out for someone to lead the line only for him to be totally ignored.

Now i'm not saying for one minute he should have been brought on, so far from what i have seen i completely agree with most on here he's shockingly bad but that again highlights the glaringly obvious, why was he taking up a bench spot?

[trousers]

18 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I would love to hear a view of Downs ability from one of his team mates who see him day in day out in training. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely to happen unless it's very positive comments which you do occasionally here from players about new members of the team.

I don't understand why he was on the bench yesterday if WS never had any intention on using him. The lads confidence must be rock bottom already and then having to watch yesterday a game that was crying out for someone to lead the line only for him to be totally ignored.

Now i'm not saying for one minute he should have been brought on, so far from what i have seen i completely agree with most on here he's shockingly bad but that again highlights the glaringly obvious, why was he taking up a bench spot?

Indeed... Oyekunle should have been on the bench... Would have been great experience for him and could've had a 'nothing to lose' 10 minute cameo appearance at the end which wouldn't have done his development any harm.

Having a player on the bench with no intention of being him on* is a complete waste of an opportunity for someone else.

(* That said, I would imagine the plan was to bring Downs on if we were comfortably in the lead towards the end of the game for a 'no pressure' confidence building stint... Just one flaw with that plan... Saints? Comfortable lead? Yeah, that flaw... )

Edited 3 hours ago by trousers

[beatlesaint]

37 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I would love to hear a view of Downs ability from one of his team mates who see him day in day out in training. Unfortunately it's highly unlikely to happen unless it's very positive comments which you do occasionally here from players about new members of the team.

I don't understand why he was on the bench yesterday if WS never had any intention on using him. The lads confidence must be rock bottom already and then having to watch yesterday a game that was crying out for someone to lead the line only for him to be totally ignored.

Now i'm not saying for one minute he should have been brought on, so far from what i have seen i completely agree with most on here he's shockingly bad but that again highlights the glaringly obvious, why was he taking up a bench spot?

It was quite amusing to hear the Sky commentators not understanding why he hadnt been bought on given his height.....obviously hadn't seen any of his earlier performances !

[Lord Duckhunter]

On 16/10/2025 at 12:10, James G said:

 I think he just needs time to adapt. He has only played the equivalent of 2 full games so far in minutes this season

You think a bloke so shite that he can’t get a game, needs  more game time? 

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I have been consistent - Kieffer Moore!!!!

Yes, but what’s his fucking xG?

[Wade Garrett]

16 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You think a bloke so shite that he can’t get a game, needs  more game time? 

Quite right.  I’m afraid turds don’t polish very well.  

Persisting with Bazunu didn’t work well.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Let’s be honest if we’d signed Kieffer Moore or Oli McButnie in the summer, as a Saints fan you’d have been pissed off.

It’s only because our strikers have been inconsistent or that they performed against our inept defenders that it’s being talked about.

[hypochondriac]

53 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Let’s be honest if we’d signed Kieffer Moore or Oli McButnie in the summer, as a Saints fan you’d have been pissed off.

It’s only because our strikers have been inconsistent or that they performed against our inept defenders that it’s being talked about.

Yes but it's not for the club hierarchy to be swayed by fan reaction, it's about being above that and doing what required for the team. Say what you like about Cortese but do you think he'd give a fuck what the fans think about a decision? Do you think he'd be staying with Still in the current scenario or he'd have allowed us to go into a season woefully weak in key positions?

[skintsaint]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I have been consistent - Kieffer Moore!!!!

3 year deal for a 32 year old who would be useless if promoted. Thank fuck you aint involved.

[AlexLaw76]

8 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

3 year deal for a 32 year old who would be useless if promoted. Thank fuck you aint involved.

As opposed to Damion Downs 

lol

[Appy]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I have been consistent - Kieffer Moore!!!!

Hardly tearing it up for Wrexham and can’t even get in that awful Wales team, Downs isn’t the answer but my god, nor is Kieffer Moore. 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Appy said:

Hardly tearing it up for Wrexham and can’t even get in that awful Wales team, Downs isn’t the answer but my god, nor is Kieffer Moore. 

Suspect he would fit the team quite well

infact, we could have sign Kieffer Moore, Ollie McBurnie and Carlton Morris for less than it cost for Downs.

 

Edited 54 minutes ago by AlexLaw76

[Appy]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Suspect he would fit the team quite well

infact, we could have sign Kieffer Moore, Ollie McBurnie and Carlton Morris for less than it cost for Downs.

 

You realise me saying no to Moore isn’t me saying yes to Downs right? 

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Suspect he would fit the team quite well

 

Let me get this right, you want us to sign a now 33 year old striker on a 3 year deal who in the last 5 seasons has scored 21 league goals in total. 

lol

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Appy said:

You realise me saying no to Moore isn’t me saying yes to Downs right? 

Moore, or someone like him, would be incredibly effective under this clown of a manager.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, skintsaint said:

Let me get this right, you want us to sign a now 33 year old striker on a 3 year deal who in the last 5 seasons has scored 21 league goals in total. 

lol

He will score and contribute much much much more than Downs will this season.

given we now have to apparently find a new way of playing now our injury stricken big lad is out for month, and all can see that under this manager we need a big presence upfront, yes, Moore would have been a decent equation for relative pennies.

we signed Billy Sharp to do a job for a couple of months, Moore would have been the same 

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He will score and contribute much much much more than Downs will this season.

 

as someone has said before, Downs isn't the answer too.

Moore....LOL.

[AlexLaw76]

4 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

as someone has said before, Downs isn't the answer too.

Moore....LOL.

lol all you like

he has more goals so far this season than Arma, Archer, Scienza, Fellows and Downs combined, and has started the season as one of the best rated players (not just as a forward)

would we be better with him available over Downs? 100%. Pretty sure he would have started for us yesterday, or at least come off the bench. 
 

Anyway, looking forward to it all clicking, which I am sure will be any game now

[Willo of Whiteley]

Are you Kieffer Moore’s agent, @AlexLaw76?

Never known someone to get such a hard on for a player who we were never linked with and seemingly hasn’t pulled up trees since his pay day move to Wrexham.

[skintsaint]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

he has more goals so far this season than Arma, Archer, Scienza, Fellows and Downs combined, and has started the season as one of the best rated players (not just as a forward)

would we be better with him available over Downs? 100%. Pretty sure he would have started for us yesterday, or at least come off the bench. 

as one of the main negative posting people on here, if we signed him at the time you would have had a right old meltdown on those terms. He isn't the answer nor is Downs. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Willo of Whiteley said:

Are you Kieffer Moore’s agent, @AlexLaw76?

Never known someone to get such a hard on for a player who we were never linked with and seemingly hasn’t pulled up trees since his pay day move to Wrexham.

Not at all, just an obvious player who would have been available to us, for a fraction of the fee compared to Downs, who would have made an immediate impact.

is he a good player? Not particularly but he would have been a decent for a season given the manager needs a lump. 

Carlton Morris would be another, but Moore stood out given he dominated our defence when he played 

[AlexLaw76]

5 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

as one of the main negative posting people on here, if we signed him at the time you would have had a right old meltdown on those terms. He isn't the answer nor is Downs. 

Makes no difference to whether the club signed him or not.

as for negative. I would say realistic (given the reality of Sports Republic)

Edited 32 minutes ago by AlexLaw76

[Willo of Whiteley]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not at all, just an obvious player who would have been available to us, for a fraction of the fee compared to Downs, who would have made an immediate impact.

is he a good player? Not particularly but he would have been a decent for a season given the manager needs a lump. 

Carlton Morris would be another, but Moore stood out given he dominated our defence when he played 

The same Carlton Morris that got relegated twice in two seasons? Jeeez

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

The same Carlton Morris that got relegated twice in two seasons? Jeeez

Yep, players is relegated sides can be decent. Morris would have been miles better than Downs (for a fraction of the cost)

i mean, we sold 2 back to the premier league, and loaned another, who helped us to 12 whole points

Edited 30 minutes ago by AlexLaw76

[Appy]

21 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Moore, or someone like him, would be incredibly effective under this clown of a manager.

If this manager is a clown, why would anyone be effective under him? 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Appy said:

If this manager is a clown, why would anyone be effective under him? 

Because he seemingly requires a lump, and cannot get a tune out of what we have. 
 

Unless he is moved on, we should have got him what he needed up top.

[Baz Fl]

Downs is our classic “one for the future” or “resale value” the problem is we needed a striker for today in the here and now and we have done for several seasons. How much of the 7M do you think we will get back after DD shows the world he can’t make in Championship football. We’ve ended up with 

Wrong player                                                       Wrong price                                                   Wrong league                                                 Wrong purchase!