Phil Parsons

[Katalinic]

Thanks FF. Interesting and I'm sure you wouldn't have posted unless interested parties comfortable with you doing so.

[westmidlandsaint]

Thanks @Fitzhugh Fella  for these posts. I would presume PP & DS are possible waiting to hear what the FA are going to do/not going to do before making any major decisions. I truly hope that your comments around this being blown out of proportions turns out to be correct as this would make the EFL's/Independent Panel's decision to be even more ridiculous. Have you heard anything regarding the fact that the Middlesbrough incident being a set up by our former analyst?

[LegalEagle]

38 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think when PP went up for the first leg he was under the impression that the crime was silly but hardly consequential and that an apology to Gibson would be the end of the matter. Many other owners/chairmen would have accepted the apology and moved on but Gibson sensed his chance to ensure his club now had two bites at the cherry. Now if PP had decided to ignore "the issue" he risked upsetting Gibson so he (rightly imo) chose the apology path.

From what I have heard of the 3 instances (and I gather there are only 3) they have been very much embellished by the media and Middlesbrough. TE is not the machiavellian character that is being portrayed and neither is he a bully. The intern probably did feel pressurised but again the story is not as bad as some would like to make out. I am sure the club will give a thorough report back of exactly what happened when they all have a chance to get under one roof. It would be a grave mistake if fan power drove out a manager who proved his worth and a CEO who was placed between a rock and a hard place. I know its human nature to seek scapegoats and we are still in various stages of shock, but lets condemn (or not) when we hear the club's version.

Thanks for this. Really useful to understand the correct version of events. Possibly a little naive of him to apologise to Gibson knowing what he is like i.e. a scrapper who will do anything to protect his club, but can understand what he was trying to achieve. I get the impression that the senior management were all a little naive at the start of this. Football is dog eat dog and they should have known that but we are where we are and now we have to circle the wagons in my view and fuck the EFL, the FA and the media in the main part. Time for us to get a little nasty. 

[saintant]

2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Maybe people should hold fire until PP, TE and the club give a full nuts and bolts explanation of what actually happened. I genuinely think fans will be less inclined to throw everyone under the bus when hearing how it all unravelled and how events have been blown out of all proportion. Yes communication has been wat too slow slow. PP is on leave this week as are a lot of people connected with the club as its half-term and traditionally a quiet week for football at the season's end.

I hold my hands up I know PP and like him. He is fanatically committed and has done many good things off the pitch as well as becoming a fervent fan. You should see how nervous he gets before a match. Yes he has made mistakes and has admitted them, but my overriding message is castigating the manager and the CEO based solely on what the media and the EFL hearing have alleged reported is premature. PP and TE were integral to last season's success - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Do you know information that is not yet in the public domain or are you speculating?

[Lard]

Ironically Take That kick off their ‘Circus’ tour tonight.
they couldn’t of picked a better place to play for two nights. 
A stadium with a club that’s just like one right now. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Trousers he has a young family who he hardly ever sees - yes he has an obligation to the club but nothing is going to happen this week and everyone needs downtime

1 hour ago, ChristopheVAFC said:

I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes today, trying to find the words and solutions to reassure everyone (supporters, players, sponsors, staff, volunteers, institutions, etc.)

Do people seriously not understand what the role of a CEO is? And why he is getting paid probably £1m+ per year to do that role? 

'Oh boo hoo he works really hard', 'Oh poor him, it must be such a hard job' - jesus christ

He's not some kid taking shit on the customer services helpline, he's the fucking CEO. The whole point of the CEO role is to lead. And when the shit hits the fan, that's when you need to earn your money and are expected to step up, lead from the front and earn those millions. 

Well our CEO has 1) personally caused the situation to be much worse than it probably needed to be by completely misjudging the situation with Gibson, and 2) totally gone missing at the exact time when he's supposed to be leading

I can't believe anyone's alright with that, but judging from the responses, apparently for lots of people that's just fine

Righto 

Edited 2 hours ago by Midfield_General

[beatlesaint]

58 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Trousers he has a young family who he hardly ever sees - yes he has an obligation to the club but nothing is going to happen this week and everyone needs downtime. Yes us football fans are an impatient bunch and I understand the heartache, but lets not burn our bridges. Good managers don't grow on tress and like I said I have met many CEOs in my dealings with the club and PP comes out as the most committed and fan friendly.

Whilst I am annoyed that the club has maintained radio silence since last Wednesday I must admit to thinking that perhaps a few days to process, take stock then let the clubs side of the story out when the dust Middlesbrough and their press lap dogs kicked up has settled might not be a bad thing.

We’ll see but I’m encouraged by FF’s posts today.

[saintant]

49 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

It's only a crisis because the whole things has been massively blown out of all proportion by the media and other clubs acting holier than thou....and the ridiculous punishment that's been handed out.

I'd rather the club take stock, work out next steps and deliver a statement that explains what's happened and where we go next than send out comm's every few days to appease us lot. 

If they're waiting on the FA to annouce charges, there is probably nothing more they can do. Unless you'd like those involved to be manning the saints store or answering phones as a punishment.

Only my opinion, and appreciate it might be a minority one.

Amen to that and it's a shame so many of our own fans are quite content to join the pile on. We have been very badly treated for minor offences that, in the grand scheme of things, have little or no bearing on the outcome of football matches. Things like diving for penalties and free kicks are cheating and likely to have far more impact on a match than what we did. There was a witch hunt and the enquiry was nothing more than a modern day kangaroo court influenced by the media lynch mob mentality.

[Fabrice29]

2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Maybe people should hold fire until PP, TE and the club give a full nuts and bolts explanation of what actually happened. I genuinely think fans will be less inclined to throw everyone under the bus when hearing how it all unravelled and how events have been blown out of all proportion. 

PP and TE had an opportunity to explain what actually happened when the charges were bought and concluded that admitting guilt was their only course of action. They also had an opportunity to stop events being blown out of all proportion but decided against any attempt to control the narrative. They’ve also sent proven batshit conspiracy theorists to bat for the club afterwards. It’s been piss poor and guilty decision making at every opportunity so let’s not pretend it’s a media hatchet job.

People should be thrown under the bus for what has ultimately led to being kicked out of an opportunity to get to the PL. Who that is might be up for debate pending the outcome of an internal review and FA action but let’s not try and spin the idea the fans are wrongly jumping the gun ffs. 😂

[ChristopheVAFC]

3 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Maybe people should hold fire until PP, TE and the club give a full nuts and bolts explanation of what actually happened. I genuinely think fans will be less inclined to throw everyone under the bus when hearing how it all unravelled and how events have been blown out of all proportion. Yes communication has been wat too slow slow. PP is on leave this week as are a lot of people connected with the club as its half-term and traditionally a quiet week for football at the season's end.

I hold my hands up I know PP and like him. He is fanatically committed and has done many good things off the pitch as well as becoming a fervent fan. You should see how nervous he gets before a match. Yes he has made mistakes and has admitted them, but my overriding message is castigating the manager and the CEO based solely on what the media and the EFL hearing have alleged reported is premature. PP and TE were integral to last season's success - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I completely agree with your analysis; given that nobody is communicating – whether it’s PP, TE or DS – everyone remains in the dark and there are no answers to the many questions that Southampton fans and supporters are asking themselves today.

Is it perhaps wiser to take one’s time before communicating, to take the time to assign responsibility to those concerned? I imagine the internal investigation won’t be completed in a matter of days...

I also had the honour of meeting PP on my first visit two years ago; he came to meet me in front of the Ted statue, and I have a lot of respect for him, and I have no doubt that he does his utmost for the club on a daily basis. I think he would have genuinely preferred there to be no scandal, even if it meant losing to Boro fair and square on the pitch... Although, of course, that’s the sort of match you really don’t want to lose...

[Midfield_General]

7 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

PP and TE had an opportunity to explain what actually happened when the charges were bought and concluded that admitting guilt was their only course of action. They also had an opportunity to stop events being blown out of all proportion but decided against any attempt to control the narrative. They’ve also sent proven batshit conspiracy theorists to bat for the club afterwards. It’s been piss poor and guilty decision making at every opportunity so let’s not pretend it’s a media hatchet job.

People should be thrown under the bus for what has ultimately led to being kicked out of an opportunity to get to the PL. Who that is might be up for debate pending the outcome of an internal review and FA action but let’s not try and spin the idea the fans are wrongly jumping the gun ffs. 😂

I agree with Fabrice

There, I've said it

[Midfield_General]

3 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Maybe people should hold fire until PP, TE and the club give a full nuts and bolts explanation of what actually happened.

When and how is this fabled full, nuts and bolts explanation from 'PP, TE and the club' going to happen? 

And why should we believe their version of events, given how they have tried to bullshit their way out of it so far? (unsuccessfully, what a surprise)

Edited 2 hours ago by Midfield_General

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

I agree with Fabrice

There, I've said it

As you are perfectly entitled to do. The truth is there are things in this whole sage that only insiders at the football club know about so we can all be accused of 'jumping the gun'. 

[bpsaint]

14 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Do people seriously not understand what the role of a CEO is? And why he is getting paid probably £1m+ per year to do that role? 

'Oh boo hoo he works really hard', 'Oh poor him, it must be such a hard job' - jesus christ

The whole point of the CEO role is to lead. And when the shit hits the fan, that's when you need to earn your money and are expected to step up, lead from the front and earn those millions. 

Well our CEO has 1) personally caused the situation to be much worse than it probably needed to be by completely misjudging the situation with Gibson, and 2) totally gone missing at the exact time when he's supposed to be leading

I can't believe anyone's alright with that, but judging from the responses, apparently for lots of people that's just fine

Righto 

Embarrassing isn’t it. 37000 of us had a trip to Wembley ruined, players lost their dream of getting to the Prem, kids getting picked on in school over the whole debacle, but poor old Phil has to take a week off for half term despite his 7 figure salary and our club being a nationwide laughing stock.

Honestly do me a fucking favour, he’s the CEO. Almost as bad as Semmens complaining he had to travel to watch away games instead of being at home.

[bpsaint]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think when PP went up for the first leg he was under the impression that the crime was silly but hardly consequential and that an apology to Gibson would be the end of the matter. Many other owners/chairmen would have accepted the apology and moved on but Gibson sensed his chance to ensure his club now had two bites at the cherry. Now if PP had decided to ignore "the issue" he risked upsetting Gibson so he (rightly imo) chose the apology path.

Fuck Gibbo, he should have told him we were going to investigate and that’s all. As soon as he apologised he admitted guilt. Total incompetence IMO. 

[Midfield_General]

Just now, bpsaint said:

Embarrassing isn’t it. 37000 of us had a trip to Wembley ruined, players lost their dream of getting to the Prem, kids getting picked on in school over the whole debacle, but poor old Phil has to take a week off for half term despite his 7 figure salary and our club being a nationwide laughing stock.

Honestly do me a fucking favour, he’s the CEO. Almost as bad as Semmens complaining he had to travel to watch away games instead of being at home.

It's an absolute joke, and i can't believe how many people seem to be OK with it

There's a reason clubs treat their fans with contempt - it's because they know that they're so wet and passive that they can do whatever they like and the mugs will just keep handing their money over regardless 

[bpsaint]

1 minute ago, Midfield_General said:

It's an absolute joke, and i can't believe how many people seem to be OK with it

There's a reason clubs treat their fans with contempt - it's because they know that they're so wet and passive that they can do whatever they like and the mugs will just keep handing their money over regardless 

It’s because we’ve got a large cuck minded fanbase. Turn out in numbers when we’re needed but when things like this happen and questions need to be asked of SR it’s silence apart from a few voices. No doubt when season tickets go on sale with no discounts the silent majority will renew just for the club to take them for granted as usual.

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Now if PP had decided to ignore "the issue" he risked upsetting Gibson so he (rightly imo) chose the apology path.

How about taking the path of getting expert legal advice before saying anything, like a competent CEO would? 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Trousers he has a young family who he hardly ever sees - yes he has an obligation to the club but nothing is going to happen this week and everyone needs downtime. Yes us football fans are an impatient bunch and I understand the heartache, but lets not burn our bridges. Good managers don't grow on tress and like I said I have met many CEOs in my dealings with the club and PP comes out as the most committed and fan friendly.

Fair point FF... I guess my usual 'benefit of the doubt' approach to such matters is being somewhat strained by the ridiculous situation we find ourselves in. 

[Maggie May]

I want to believe FF but Simon Peach said this week there could be worse to come. 

[trousers]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think when PP went up for the first leg he was under the impression that the crime was silly but hardly consequential and that an apology to Gibson would be the end of the matter. Many other owners/chairmen would have accepted the apology and moved on but Gibson sensed his chance to ensure his club now had two bites at the cherry. Now if PP had decided to ignore "the issue" he risked upsetting Gibson so he (rightly imo) chose the apology path.

From what I have heard of the 3 instances (and I gather there are only 3) they have been very much embellished by the media and Middlesbrough. TE is not the machiavellian character that is being portrayed and neither is he a bully. The intern probably did feel pressurised but again the story is not as bad as some would like to make out. I am sure the club will give a thorough report back of exactly what happened when they all have a chance to get under one roof. It would be a grave mistake if fan power drove out a manager who proved his worth and a CEO who was placed between a rock and a hard place. I know its human nature to seek scapegoats and we are still in various stages of shock, but lets condemn (or not) when we hear the club's version.

Cheers again FF... If that's true (no reason to doubt you) then the FA surely have to treat him the same as they did Bielsa... i.e. a ticking off and a warning not to do it again.... 

[trousers]

59 minutes ago, LegalEagle said:

Thanks for this. Really useful to understand the correct version of events. Possibly a little naive of him to apologise to Gibson knowing what he is like i.e. a scrapper who will do anything to protect his club, but can understand what he was trying to achieve. I get the impression that the senior management were all a little naive at the start of this. Football is dog eat dog and they should have known that but we are where we are and now we have to circle the wagons in my view and fuck the EFL, the FA and the media in the main part. Time for us to get a little nasty. 

Hear, hear 👏🏼

[SaintsLoyal]

So he’s carpet bombed ex saints players with free tickets and hospitality. The evidence is clear he told the EFL a load of nonsense, which would have really damaged any prospect of staying in the promotion final. Another arrogant statement came and then we see the pointless appeal. He is involved in the football discussion alongside Spors who obviously does the admin.

[RedArmy]

1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think when PP went up for the first leg he was under the impression that the crime was silly but hardly consequential and that an apology to Gibson would be the end of the matter. Many other owners/chairmen would have accepted the apology and moved on but Gibson sensed his chance to ensure his club now had two bites at the cherry. Now if PP had decided to ignore "the issue" he risked upsetting Gibson so he (rightly imo) chose the apology path.

 

Dress it up any way you want, Duncan. It was pure and utter incompetence to go up there blabbing his mouth knowing full well their CEO is on the EFL board and Gibson does not let things lie. Any ignorance about the latter does not wash I'm afraid. 
 

It’s inexcusable and he has to go. 

[trousers]

41 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

PP and TE had an opportunity to explain what actually happened when the charges were bought and concluded that admitting guilt was their only course of action. They also had an opportunity to stop events being blown out of all proportion but decided against any attempt to control the narrative. They’ve also sent proven batshit conspiracy theorists to bat for the club afterwards. It’s been piss poor and guilty decision making at every opportunity so let’s not pretend it’s a media hatchet job.

People should be thrown under the bus for what has ultimately led to being kicked out of an opportunity to get to the PL. Who that is might be up for debate pending the outcome of an internal review and FA action but let’s not try and spin the idea the fans are wrongly jumping the gun ffs. 😂

We were wrong about Fabrice's alter ego... Turns out he was Jeremy Wilson all along...

[Midfield_General]

12 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Dress it up any way you want, Duncan. It was pure and utter incompetence to go up there blabbing his mouth knowing full well their CEO is on the EFL board and Gibson does not let things lie. Any ignorance about the latter does not wash I'm afraid. 
 

It’s inexcusable and he has to go. 

No but he's really personable, and he just needs a holiday like anyone else, so actually it's all fine and we should all just stop going on about it and leave him alone to enjoy Peppa World and collect his massive pay cheque in peace, the poor lamb

Edited 2 hours ago by Midfield_General

[Toussaint]

3 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Maybe people should hold fire until PP, TE and the club give a full nuts and bolts explanation of what actually happened. I genuinely think fans will be less inclined to throw everyone under the bus when hearing how it all unravelled and how events have been blown out of all proportion. Yes communication has been wat too slow slow. PP is on leave this week as are a lot of people connected with the club as its half-term and traditionally a quiet week for football at the season's end.

I hold my hands up I know PP and like him. He is fanatically committed and has done many good things off the pitch as well as becoming a fervent fan. You should see how nervous he gets before a match. Yes he has made mistakes and has admitted them, but my overriding message is castigating the manager and the CEO based solely on what the media and the EFL hearing have alleged reported is premature. PP and TE were integral to last season's success - let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Don’t tell SaintsLoyal that, he’s convinced himself Parsons is the love child of Jimmy Saville and Myra Hindley. 

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

Don’t tell SaintsLoyal that, he’s convinced himself Parsons is the love child of Jimmy Saville and Myra Hindley. 

Agree. Maybe he should change his handle to SaintsNonLoyal because he comes across as over eager to believe every bad word written about the club. One of the leaders of the pile on 🙂

[Cuddles]

25 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

I want to believe FF but Simon Peach said this week there could be worse to come. 

I listened to Peach last night and it just came across to me as an emotional opinion piece IMO.

[ItchenRob]

30 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

How about taking the path of getting expert legal advice before saying anything, like a competent CEO would? 

This perfectly summarises what should have happened imho. Parsons' naivety would appear to be off the scale.

[LeBizzier69]

35 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

It’s because we’ve got a large cuck minded fanbase. Turn out in numbers when we’re needed but when things like this happen and questions need to be asked of SR it’s silence apart from a few voices. No doubt when season tickets go on sale with no discounts the silent majority will renew just for the club to take them for granted as usual.

I'm definitely cuck minded, who turns out when needed, with a very short memory, who has gone from "sack the lot" to "keep the lot", and will be renewing my ST even if the price goes up.

Tonda in, up the saints. 

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think when PP went up for the first leg he was under the impression that the crime was silly but hardly consequential and that an apology to Gibson would be the end of the matter. Many other owners/chairmen would have accepted the apology and moved on but Gibson sensed his chance to ensure his club now had two bites at the cherry. Now if PP had decided to ignore "the issue" he risked upsetting Gibson so he (rightly imo) chose the apology path.

From what I have heard of the 3 instances (and I gather there are only 3) they have been very much embellished by the media and Middlesbrough. TE is not the machiavellian character that is being portrayed and neither is he a bully. The intern probably did feel pressurised but again the story is not as bad as some would like to make out. I am sure the club will give a thorough report back of exactly what happened when they all have a chance to get under one roof. It would be a grave mistake if fan power drove out a manager who proved his worth and a CEO who was placed between a rock and a hard place. I know its human nature to seek scapegoats and we are still in various stages of shock, but lets condemn (or not) when we hear the club's version.

I think the biggest issue is we have no idea when information will be released, or statements will be made.

I don’t see an end to all this at the moment, and the other side of it is we need to start planning for next season. Current players, recruitment, sponsors, …coaching team seemingly too, perhaps… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, Cuddles said:

I listened to Peach last night and it just came across to me as an emotional opinion piece IMO.

I would tend to agree with that... Left me with the impression that he doesn't have any inside info.

[Maggie May]

18 minutes ago, Cuddles said:

I listened to Peach last night and it just came across to me as an emotional opinion piece IMO.

Oh good. I wasn’t listening to it carefully enough! 

 

[Toussaint]

37 minutes ago, saintant said:

Agree. Maybe he should change his handle to SaintsNonLoyal because he comes across as over eager to believe every bad word written about the club. One of the leaders of the pile on 🙂

He only comes out of his troll hole  when things are going badly. 

[Midfield_General]

I'm not sure it's trolling or piling-on to dare to suggest that this episode hasn't exactly been the club's finest hour and could have been handled better, to be honest 

Edited 1 hour ago by Midfield_General

[Jack]

Yeah fucking off on a week’s holiday during what is probably the most damaging crisis in the club’s history, is not what a CEO should be doing. What sort of message does that send through the rest of the structure? Complete lack of leadership, utter contempt for the fans who are still left in the dark, staff and players with no idea whether to look for a new job over the summer or not. Absolute shambles from the top, sorry FF but just because someone seems a nice chap and has a family, doesn’t give them a pass to down tools in a situation like this. How we handle these couple of weeks are clearly crucial to the future of the club. 
 

I predicted ages ago that I reckon the next communication from the club will be on season ticket renewals, looking even more likely now. The circus marches on 

Edited 25 minutes ago by Jack

[Lord Duckhunter]

My issue is what the “apology” given to Gibson was based upon. Because to me it appeared the club thought this was a one off half arsed lone wolf mission, when the reality was totally different. He should have got ahead of the issue from the day it broke and he didn’t appear to. Was he lied to by people in the club, did he not ask the right questions,  or did he think this was the best way to fight the fire. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Midfield_General said:

No but he's really personable, and he just needs a holiday like anyone else, so actually it's all fine and we should all just stop going on about it and leave him alone to enjoy Peppa World and collect his massive pay cheque in peace, the poor lamb

Accountability is clearly a bad thing, and you've not offered him a single hug for his hurty feelings over the whole "promotionally challenged" thing we're in. When he's back from holiday of course. 

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

I agree with Fabrice

There, I've said it

I hovered, but pulled back.

[trousers]

Just now, Miltonaggro said:

I hovered, but pulled back.

 

[EssEffCee]

22 minutes ago, Jack said:

Yeah fucking off on a week’s holiday during what is probably the most damaging crisis in the club’s history, is not what a CEO is should be doing. What sort of message does that send through the rest of the structure? Complete lack of leadership, utter contempt for the fans who are still left in the dark, staff and players with no idea whether to look for a new job over the summer or not. Absolute shambles from the top, sorry FF but just because someone seems a nice chap and has a family, doesn’t give them a pass to down tools in a situation like this. How we handle these couple of weeks are clearly crucial to the future of the club. 
 

I predicted ages ago that I reckon the next communication from the club will be on season ticket renewals, looking even more likely now. The circus marches on 

Yeah I think him going on holiday this week makes me even more convinced he needs to go.

[Pip]

Is Dragan still in the country? Perhaps he’s taken the whole thing in hand.  As far as I remember one of our members who moves in legal circles spoke of various chambers being sounded out about taking our case on re suing the EFL and goodness knows who else. Since then we’ve heard absolutely nothing from any of our usual ITK. No hints of what went on in players meeting with Tonda etc, Alfie and Adam have really only been speculating. All points to a complete shut down behind the scenes while they get their ducks in a row to me.

Edited 57 minutes ago by Pip

[Miltonaggro]

38 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

I'm not sure it's trolling or piling-on to dare to suggest that this episode hasn't exactly been the club's finest hour and could have been handled better, to be honest 

It's clearly not.  The buck stops with the CEO regardless of the nature of the industry, and Parsons has overseen and contributed to a debacle that has potentially cost the club in excess of £100m - any other scenario and he would have been dismissed or fallen on his sword.  The 'on half term holiday' line is particularly mind-boggling and actually leads me to think that the Board holds the long-suffering fans in contempt to a level I didn't think possible.  They seem to think that they can wing this, and that Solak will underpin their decision - fuck a doodle do!

[CB Fry]

Dragan is in the country but he’s booked a Padel court at Center Parcs Hertfordshire at 4pm and his missus is in a yoga session before dinner so, obviously not the time.

Every one on here needs to stop being so selfish and let these people have their holidays.

[Miltonaggro]

3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Dragan is in the country but he’s booked a Padel court at Center Parcs Hertfordshire at 4pm and his missus is in a yoga session before dinner so, obviously not the time.

Every one on here needs to stop being so selfish and let these people have their holidays.

This makes it worse as Dragan and Gordana are not even on half term FFS!

[Fitzhugh Fella]

1 hour ago, RedArmy said:

Dress it up any way you want, Duncan. It was pure and utter incompetence to go up there blabbing his mouth knowing full well their CEO is on the EFL board and Gibson does not let things lie. Any ignorance about the latter does not wash I'm afraid. 
 

It’s inexcusable and he has to go. 

But my point is that back before the first Boro game it was considered to be a storm in a teacup by everyone, worthy of a genuine apology. Boro/Gibson chose the escalation route. I don't think PP was blabbing, just offered a sincere apology. Wrong call in hindsight but as we all know that is a wonderful thing. Not many have never made a wrong call in their lives. I have made plenty.

[macca155]

Good posts from @Fitzhugh Fella, and I'd concur the more heat that can be taken out of this situation the better. However  fans will want someone to pay for this shit show.

Tonda is getting support as most recognise his worth to us. Few will know of Parson's worth, but that's the deal with senior management. It doesn't hurt to remind us. 

Go on holiday by all means, but take your bloody phone and stay ahead of this fiasco, at the very least. 

Just a few settling statements is all that is needed. It's the silence that is annoying.

 

[RedArmy]

11 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

But my point is that back before the first Boro game it was considered to be a storm in a teacup by everyone, worthy of a genuine apology. Boro/Gibson chose the escalation route. I don't think PP was blabbing, just offered a sincere apology. Wrong call in hindsight but as we all know that is a wonderful thing. Not many have never made a wrong call in their lives. I have made plenty.

Ignorance to how far Gibson was prepared to go is not an excuse. He has form. 
 

 

[Jack]

1 minute ago, macca155 said:

Good posts from @Fitzhugh Fella, and I'd concur the more heat that can be taken out of this situation the better. However  fans will want someone to pay for this shit show.

Tonda is getting support as most recognise his worth to us. Few will know of Parson's worth, but that's the deal with senior management. It doesn't hurt to remind us. 

Go on holiday by all means, but take your bloody phone and stay ahead of this fiasco, at the very least. 

Just a few settling statements is all that is needed. It's the silence that is annoying.

 

Exactly, I don’t think it’s even fans wanting heads to roll necessarily, just some reassurance that the club are taking it seriously, actually doing something about it and have some sort of plan to get us out of this mess. It just feels like they’re on holiday hoping it’ll blow over, or at least be old news by the time they want the fans to put their hands in their pockets again for season tickets. If that’s the strategy then they’ll be in for a shock. 
 

They need to put their chips in one way or the other, either back those involved or sack the lot and restructure. The longer it goes on without a decision, the harder it gets.