die Mannyschaft Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 hours ago, Dr Who? said: They still in the meeting? The FA are a flipping joke. Pardon my French! Could decide this during a hydration break! FA Completely useless, peoples minds are already decided irrespective of what is reviewed or looked at from Tonda's point of view. Its a 15 min chat and announcement.
Oldandtired Posted July 3 Posted July 3 2 hours ago, Badger said: I’ll bow to your knowledge of the regulations, but out of interest does it go so far as to the penalties or measures that might be imposed for particular breaches ? Wasn't precedent set with Bielsa?
Dr Who? Posted July 4 Posted July 4 It’s a joke, it should be sorted out long before the start of the next season. This happened before the end of the season previous. I said at the time it would be just before or even after the season has started which is ridiculous and will send us into complete chaos in what is a hugely important season in which, if we do not go up it could impacted the club for years/decades. 7
St. Ciervo Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) That alone will cause damages worthy of seeking compensation. Edit: Sadly, we would have to prove that it was deliberate. Good luck on that. Edited July 4 by St. Ciervo
West Dean FC Legend Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) 15 minutes ago, St. Ciervo said: That alone will cause damages worthy of seeking compensation. Edit: Sadly, we would have to prove that it was deliberate. Good luck on that. Just a different point - perhaps a lawyer would only have to prove it was incompotence by the FA that has seriously affected our build up for the new season. I mean the FA know the new season is approaching, they know teams appoint coaches and get players as early as they can for specific prices, plus clubs release players, to fit their plans, which included the coaching staff. If the FA due to diddling around and being slow and unable to check out the problem and come to a verdict in a reasonable time, so when they come up with some tremendous punishment it seriously affects this - that is unacceptable. Or maybe I'm being too 'professional' and 'logical'? 🤣 Edited July 4 by West Dean FC Legend 5
St. Ciervo Posted July 4 Posted July 4 It would be worth the shot for sure. That screams a financial settlement, which would still be an unacceptable remedy. The question is, are they operating this slow always? I imagine that is a yes. 1
Challenger Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 hours ago, Dr Who? said: It’s a joke, it should be sorted out long before the start of the next season. This happened before the end of the season previous. I said at the time it would be just before or even after the season has started which is ridiculous and will send us into complete chaos in what is a hugely important season in which, if we do not go up it could impacted the club for years/decades. Indeed, however it was an all preventable, self-inflicted fuck up 3
Dr Who? Posted July 5 Posted July 5 15 hours ago, Challenger said: Indeed, however it was an all preventable, self-inflicted fuck up We also had the opportunity to show him the door and reappoint for the start of the season I suppose. 1
OzzySaint Posted July 6 Posted July 6 We should have got trump to ring FA and EFL to get us off - FIFA are bigger cheats than anyone else followed by the FA themselves! 1
Matthew Le God Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 hour ago, OzzySaint said: We should have got trump to ring FA and EFL to get us off - FIFA are bigger cheats than anyone else followed by the FA themselves! What have the FA done to cheat?
Convict Colony Posted July 6 Posted July 6 The FA are the most incompetent, work shy cunts in human history, they are worse than me. How long does it take to make a ruling, if he's banned for 3 months it's fucked us as preason is back.
Convict Colony Posted July 6 Posted July 6 18 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: What have the FA done to cheat? Well VAR falls under their remit so you could say they can manipulate games via that given the consistent errors but watching the world cup it seems that everyone is shit at VAR sl maybe they get a pass.
Saint86 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 When do people think they'll actually be a decision on this? Surely it has to be this month, ideally before the world cup finishes?
obelisk Posted July 8 Posted July 8 12 minutes ago, Saint86 said: When do people think they'll actually be a decision on this? Surely it has to be this month, ideally before the world cup finishes? Given the amount of cheating going on in the World Cup that actually does affect real matches you'd hope that the FA would toss the inconsequential alleged misdemeanours by Tonda into the bin. I suspect they'll go in hard on the small guy though 'cos that's what they like to do. 1
sockeye Posted July 8 Author Posted July 8 They're focusing on getting FIFA to suspend the inevitable yellow card for Bellingham.
Charlie Wayman Posted July 8 Posted July 8 On 06/07/2026 at 03:12, Matthew Le God said: What have the FA done to cheat? Easy & Cheap response, you can do much better than this
Matthew Le God Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: Easy & Cheap response, you can do much better than this They were accused of cheating, I asked what have they done to cheat. That is not an unreasonable question.
Saint Fan CaM Posted July 9 Posted July 9 On 08/07/2026 at 15:41, Matthew Le God said: They were accused of cheating, I asked what have they done to cheat. That is not an unreasonable question. How about failing to address the many ‘misdemeanours’ of Man City FC? Given the number of clubs across the country adversely affected by their ‘misdemeanours’, you’d think they’d be duty bound to punish City swiftly and commensurately against the 100+ charges they face, but that wouldn’t suit their narrative would it? Tantamount to cheating at the very least. 3
Matthew Le God Posted July 10 Posted July 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: How about failing to address the many ‘misdemeanours’ of Man City FC? Given the number of clubs across the country adversely affected by their ‘misdemeanours’, you’d think they’d be duty bound to punish City swiftly and commensurately against the 100+ charges they face, but that wouldn’t suit their narrative would it? Tantamount to cheating at the very least. You have confused governing bodies. The charges for Man City are by the Premier League, not the FA. The case is being heard by an independent commission appointed under Premier League rules, not by the FA. Edited July 10 by Matthew Le God
Weston Super Saint Posted July 10 Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: You have confused governing bodies. The charges for Man City are by the Premier League, not the FA. The case is being heard by an independent commission appointed under Premier League rules, not by the FA. The charges made against Tonda were initially from the EFL, but the FA are still involved. Maybe because, you know, they oversee ALL football in the UK? 1
VectisSaint Posted July 10 Posted July 10 47 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: The charges made against Tonda were initially from the EFL, but the FA are still involved. Maybe because, you know, they oversee ALL football in the UK? The charges by the EFL were against the Club (same as PL have charged Man City). The FA deal with individuals. 1
Weston Super Saint Posted July 10 Posted July 10 1 minute ago, VectisSaint said: The charges by the EFL were against the Club (same as PL have charged Man City). The FA deal with individuals. So the FA could charge all managers that have been in charge of Man City in conjunction with the PL charges However, I assume they can only do this once found 'guilty' which is unlikely to happen in our lifetime the way the PL is stringing it out! 3
VectisSaint Posted July 10 Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: So the FA could charge all managers that have been in charge of Man City in conjunction with the PL charges However, I assume they can only do this once found 'guilty' which is unlikely to happen in our lifetime the way the PL is stringing it out! I don't think that's how it works, but yes if a particular manager had brought the game into disrepute (LOL) or similar they could be charged. I don't know the Man City charges in detail but I've never heard of any of their managers being individually responsible for any of the alleged financial misdemeanours. As you alluded to though they would not bring any charges while the PL "investigations" continue, otherwise it could be seen to compromise the due process. As I've already said several times I am pretty sure that the FA are only really interested in the alleged "bullying", because it brings into disrepute their "inclusivity" goals. They may include other charges but thats the thing they "care" about, being seen to be a fully inclusive (woke) organisation.
Saint86 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 (edited) It would be utterly bonkers if the FA banned a manager for the scouting team violating the rules on only 3 occasions to scout other teams inside an arbitrary time window - an almost inconsequential breach given saints didn't even win any of those matches, and given all league games and other training sessions are available to scout without it being an infraction. The bullying stuff is also complete nonsense, not even the EFL's own report accuses Eckert directly of bullying (but they made sure the media did that, Adam included), and there is no evidence that either shows or states that Eckert bullied staff. Its a very insidious accusation leveled at him with no substantial evidence against him, and a stain that is almost impossible to ever fully remove - But what it did achieve is giving the EFL the narrative they needed to hammer the club and make appealing the sanction very difficult. Edited July 10 by Saint86 7
LiberalCommunist Posted July 10 Posted July 10 12 minutes ago, Saint86 said: It would be utterly bonkers if the FA banned a manager for the scouting team violating the rules on only 3 occasions to scout other teams inside an arbitrary time window - an almost inconsequential breach given saints didn't even win any of those matches, and given all league games and other training sessions are available to scout without it being an infraction. The bullying stuff is also complete nonsense, not even the EFL's own report accuses Eckert directly of bullying (but they made sure the media did that, Adam included), and there is no evidence that either shows or states that Eckert bullied staff. Its a very insidious accusation leveled at him with no substantial evidence against him, and a stain that is almost impossible to ever fully remove - But what it did achieve is giving the EFL the narrative they needed to hammer the club and make appealing the sanction very difficult. Imagine being chucked out of a competition for this infringement. It still seems utterly ridiculous. An over reaction so great, that the football world will not know what to do the next time a serious breach of regulations comes to light. The lines are now so blurred, you'd need VAR and five working days to understand if it touched the line. Thankfully, for my sanity, we won another season in the best league in the world. So I won't dwell on it. 2
Charlie Wayman Posted July 10 Posted July 10 I just wish they would get their FA fingers out and decide on the penalty. There's bound to be some sanction against Eckert so why the delay? Informed opinion suggests - based on percedent - he will get a touchline ban for six months leaving him free to coach during the week but uninvolved on match days. Probably that is manageable without a huge impact on performance. Of course if they are reallly vindictive they could ban him from football altogether. The longer this goes on the more one suspects they are working out what form of sanction will hit Eckert hardest. 3
Fabrice29 Posted July 10 Posted July 10 53 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: I just wish they would get their FA fingers out and decide on the penalty. There's bound to be some sanction against Eckert so why the delay? Informed opinion suggests - based on percedent - he will get a touchline ban for six months leaving him free to coach during the week but uninvolved on match days. Probably that is manageable without a huge impact on performance. Of course if they are reallly vindictive they could ban him from football altogether. The longer this goes on the more one suspects they are working out what form of sanction will hit Eckert hardest. Where’s the informed opinion and precedent for that out of interest ?
RedArmy Posted July 10 Posted July 10 Where would be the logic in a manager that cheated away from the pitch and touchline being banned from there but still being allowed to work in the environment that he cheated in? It would be like banning a speeding motorist from getting the train but still being allowed to drive. 1
beatlesaint Posted July 10 Posted July 10 7 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Where would be the logic in a manager that cheated away from the pitch and touchline being banned from there but still being allowed to work in the environment that he cheated in? It would be like banning a speeding motorist from getting the train but still being allowed to drive. Whilst I agree I think trying to apply any logic when it comes to the FA is a dangerous route to take. 1
Matthew Le God Posted July 10 Posted July 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: I just wish they would get their FA fingers out and decide on the penalty. There's bound to be some sanction against Eckert so why the delay? Informed opinion suggests - based on percedent - he will get a touchline ban for six months leaving him free to coach during the week but uninvolved on match days. Probably that is manageable without a huge impact on performance. Of course if they are reallly vindictive they could ban him from football altogether. The longer this goes on the more one suspects they are working out what form of sanction will hit Eckert hardest. What precedent set by the FA is there for that? Edited July 10 by Matthew Le God 1
die Mannyschaft Posted July 10 Posted July 10 I'll be at Eastleigh fc next week so will be Tonda’s first match if he turns up or could be only one for season. I think FA will ban him or not allow him in dug out purley to set a precedent If he is banned then its U21s manager step up or get temp manager in. No news is bad new in Saints terms.
hypochondriac Posted July 10 Posted July 10 They're going to ban him the week before the season aren't they...
Toadhall Saint Posted July 11 Posted July 11 7 hours ago, hypochondriac said: They're going to ban him the week before the season aren't they... Probably - just to fuck us up and rub salt into the wounds at the start of the season. If they do I’m hoping Dragan has his legal team on speed dial.
hypochondriac Posted July 11 Posted July 11 14 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Probably - just to fuck us up and rub salt into the wounds at the start of the season. If they do I’m hoping Dragan has his legal team on speed dial. If they do I think we would have a pretty good case. If you're going to ban him then it should have been done weeks ago in order to give us some certainty. 6
beatlesaint Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: If they do I think we would have a pretty good case. If you're going to ban him then it should have been done weeks ago in order to give us some certainty. Absolutely this. If they want to ban him it should have been before the start of pre-season, if they do take action against him I still think it will be a suspended sentence. But yeah they’ve dragged this out so I’m pretty sure Dragan’s lawyers can do the same with an appeal. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: If they do I think we would have a pretty good case. If you're going to ban him then it should have been done weeks ago in order to give us some certainty. Yep - personally I think it’ll be a minimal touchline ban anything more will be very harsh on the club.
rallyboy Posted July 11 Posted July 11 27 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: anything more will be very harsh on the club. Harsh has already sailed. 8
Toadhall Saint Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 hour ago, rallyboy said: Harsh has already sailed. What’s docking now then?
Roo1976 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 5 hours ago, hypochondriac said: If they do I think we would have a pretty good case. If you're going to ban him then it should have been done weeks ago in order to give us some certainty. after all we got kicked out in days not weeks........
Charlie Wayman Posted July 11 Posted July 11 23 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Where’s the informed opinion and precedent for that out of interest ? One MLG is enough for this forum thank you, no disrespect to MLG intended. Look it up for yourself
Miltonaggro Posted July 11 Posted July 11 FA sanction will be that he's got to play Bazunu in goal and Downs up front for the first ten games. We are fucked!
Fabrice29 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: One MLG is enough for this forum thank you, no disrespect to MLG intended. Look it up for yourself Don’t think I was intending to be ‘MLG’, I was asking a pretty valid question. I have looked it up, I don’t see either an informed opinion or precedent relating to a 6 month touchline ban.
Matthew Le God Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: One MLG is enough for this forum thank you, no disrespect to MLG intended. Look it up for yourself He can't look it up, because there is no relevant precedent. Edited July 11 by Matthew Le God
Weston Super Saint Posted July 11 Posted July 11 13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He can't look it up, because there is no relevant precedent. Apart from the precedent that the FA did not issue any punishment at all following the only other case of spying. I'd say that's a pretty relevant precedent. 5
OzzySaint Posted Monday at 06:31 Posted Monday at 06:31 On 06/07/2026 at 12:12, Matthew Le God said: What have the FA done to cheat? Sorry MLG - been away, Cheating may be the wrong word but lets say bias as a minimum - i grant you its hard to cheat when you make the rules. However i think they do show bias between clubs, between owners / players and offences. If u were to look at Football admin as a whole then probably yes, cheating by association maybe. The FA is the independent governing body for association football in England but defers to UEFA for European matters and FIFA for global. Given these two organisations are hardly known for there unbiased approach or for a lack of corruption then by association we could be back at cheating. Also given the time it has taken to come to a decision on Eckert et al then yeah that could also be construed as mean and petty at best, since it doesnt give the individual, club or supporters time to adapt before season start and at worst seen as bias to other clubs (cheating) by giving them advantage by leaving a decision to ban Tonda so late. Sorry you disagree.
Mr X Posted Monday at 09:18 Posted Monday at 09:18 On 05/07/2026 at 11:26, Dr Who? said: We also had the opportunity to show him the door and reappoint for the start of the season I suppose. We will no doubt start the season poorly as we always do! and there will be calls for tondas resignation, assuming he gets the opportunity
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