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    Quote Originally Posted by Faz View Post
    BMI is a very crude measure, used on its own. It may be that all that work in the gym bulked CS up too much, hence the BMI issue. The right athletic body type/shape is key. Just speculating.
    Agreed. Better gauge is tape measure head to toe then round waist. If head-toe measure goes round waist twice you’re all good. I was dismayed to discover mine barely made it round once (and I’m 6 foot 6).

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    Quote Originally Posted by stknowle View Post
    Agreed. Better gauge is tape measure head to toe then round waist. If head-toe measure goes round waist twice youíre all good. I was dismayed to discover mine barely made it round once (and Iím 6 foot 6).
    I was once told that there should be a minimum 4" difference between your waist and your chest - in favour of your chest.

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    Good to see him sign a deal. The lad has a different style and nice range of passing compared to our other midfielders. I thought he offered another dimension when he appeared for the first team last season. (*whispers* A bit of Steve Williams in the passing).

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    Tipped by the BBC to have a breakthrough season - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49057145

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    Tipped by the BBC to have a breakthrough season - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49057145
    ‘The 20-year-old, who has impressed in pre-season with his excellent range of passing and box-to-box energy from central midfield...’

    The only game he’s featured in in preseason was the China game, which was essentially the U23s. Hasn’t even been in the squad for any of our actual first team games. Great journalism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    ‘The 20-year-old, who has impressed in pre-season with his excellent range of passing and box-to-box energy from central midfield...’

    The only game he’s featured in in preseason was the China game, which was essentially the U23s. Hasn’t even been in the squad for any of our actual first team games. Great journalism!
    He'll play a huge part this season. Pre season involvement doesn't dictate the season ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He'll play a huge part this season. Pre season involvement doesn't dictate the season ahead.
    They should have picked Obafemi instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He'll play a huge part this season. Pre season involvement doesn't dictate the season ahead.
    define 'huge'

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He'll play a huge part this season. Pre season involvement doesn't dictate the season ahead.
    I hope you're right; but from what I've seen Slattery will struggle to establish himself at Prem level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He'll play a huge part this season. Pre season involvement doesn't dictate the season ahead.
    Didn’t say he wouldn’t? (Though I have some doubt). My point was that the article says he’s impressed in games he hasn’t played in.

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    Maybe he played against Brentford.

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    Slattery seems to me he'll end up like Hesketh. Bags of talent but not a lot of determination / Work ethic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    define 'huge'
    Don't ask stupid questions. It's an opinion. Do you have an opinion on his season ahead, or potential generally?

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    I think Slattery will be a decent player. Give him some slack

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    Lad has a nice range of passing, a bit different to our other midfielders(lobs balls over the top, in a good way). Ralph said as much after his debut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Harris View Post
    Slattery seems to me he'll end up like Hesketh. Bags of talent but not a lot of determination / Work ethic.
    Hesketh, to be fair, actually does work hard and put himself about. His problem was (and might still be) that's he a bit physically slight. Didn't used to be much of a fan of his but I reckon he's good enough for the league below subject to his ability to stay fit and pit himself against much stronger players. He did well at Burton.

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    @mcgrathmike: Southampton midfielder Callum Slattery is heading to Dutch club De Graafschap on a six-month loan #SaintsFC #DeGraafschap The England U20 international has been allowed out to get regular first-team football

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    good move that - needs some football - hope he gets it

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    I will see what happens in the next few weeks but I might pop down there one weekend to go watch him once I know he'll be playing

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    What level do they play at?

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    They are in a promotion battle in the 2nd tier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    They are in a promotion battle in the 2nd tier
    Oh...

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    For whatever reason he seems to have drifted this season
    Hopefully a good move for his development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    For whatever reason he seems to have drifted this season
    Hopefully a good move for his development.
    Agreed, not only football wise but living abroad for a bit, and the challenges that come with it, may toughen him up. The next 18 months will be important if heís to reach the levels that were touted 4 years or so ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    They are in a promotion battle in the 2nd tier
    The Dutch second tier is League one/league two level. The football is very poor, except Jong Ajax (Ajax reserves and youth).

    The Graafschap are trained by Mike Snoei, who last season was the trainer at Telstar, who had Seagar on loan. Snoei must know someone at the club. I’ll keep an eye out for Slattery and check the local paper, if Slattery signs that is.


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    Fingers crossed the local nightclubs are ready for him, as that's where he spends the majority of his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He'll play a huge part this season. Pre season involvement doesn't dictate the season ahead.
    Errr, what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Errr, what happened?
    Dunno mate. Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Dunno mate. Do you?
    No pal, I actually agree with you and thought he’d be a regular in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    No pal, I actually agree with you and thought he’d be a regular in the squad.
    All I know is he spent time at Golden Ring over the close season and worked hard to come back super fit. Has only made the bench once since and hasn't seen any minutes. Official site announcement says nothing about "wishing him luck" as per other loanees. Doesn't look good for a very talented kid.

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    He’s extremely arrogant and unprofessional. No future here unfortunately, especially with RH here. Which is a shame as he’s talented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    He’s extremely arrogant and unprofessional. No future here unfortunately, especially with RH here. Which is a shame as he’s talented.
    Thanks for the info. So is this a "shop window" loan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    Thanks for the info. So is this a "shop window" loan?
    Dutch 2nd division isn’t the most glamorous of shop windows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    He’s extremely arrogant and unprofessional. No future here unfortunately, especially with RH here. Which is a shame as he’s talented.
    So what you're saying is that the loan is abroad because it's hoped he might pick up on the different way of life and be kept away from temptation? Bit like Shaw, but without the Nando's effect?

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    Slattery came on as a second half sub for De Graafschap and scored the 2-0 against Roda JC Kerkrade.

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    Highlights of the Graafschap V Roda JC game with Slattery’s goal and miss in the link below.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kwO7sa2P1ZE

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    Some of the Eerste divisie teams do seem very basic. Graafschap have a chance to go up though...the playoffs are decided by the "nacompetitie" rules. I am following Volendam.

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    Is he playing regularly there? Seems odd he's gone to such a low level. Is it just his attitude or has he turned out to be nowhere near as good as the hype?

    He looks comfortable in the premier league games he played which is impressive at his age at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Is he playing regularly there? Seems odd he's gone to such a low level. Is it just his attitude or has he turned out to be nowhere near as good as the hype?

    He looks comfortable in the premier league games he played which is impressive at his age at the time.
    Slattery has been a second half substitute in all the games he has played since arriving at De Graafschap. In the Dutch Eerste Divisie clubs like Cambuur, Graafschap and this season Volendam are performing well, but I would still rank them botten half league 1 level. Clubs like Dordrecht, Oss and Helmond Sport wouldn’t be anything special in League 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Kucho View Post
    Slattery has been a second half substitute in all the games he has played since arriving at De Graafschap. In the Dutch Eerste Divisie clubs like Cambuur, Graafschap and this season Volendam are performing well, but I would still rank them botten half league 1 level. Clubs like Dordrecht, Oss and Helmond Sport wouldn’t be anything special in League 2.
    A year or two ago, I had high hopes for Callum Slattery but by this season it began to feel he was missing the boat. Would have expected him to be a first team regular by the age of 20 but he's now 21. Not even a regular stating spot for De Graafschap doesn't bode well. A career in the lower divisions might be the best he can achieve but it would feel like a wasted talent.

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    I also thought that by now Slattery would at least be on the fringes of the first team but Smallbone seems to have overtaken him. I also thought Hesketh, Simms, Alfie Jones and possibly O'Driscoll and O'Connor would be there or there abouts. Shows how much I know!

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    Itís a strange one. Clearly a good player in there and Egg is obviously connected to the youth team and says he worked really hard on his fitness over the summer. Yet others say heís a knob with a bad attitude, which kind of ties in with why heís been sent out on loan when he really should be ahead of Smallbone given he broke into the team first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    It’s a strange one. Clearly a good player in there and Egg is obviously connected to the youth team and says he worked really hard on his fitness over the summer. Yet others say he’s a knob with a bad attitude, which kind of ties in with why he’s been sent out on loan when he really should be ahead of Smallbone given he broke into the team first.
    Yeah, whilst it’s great to see Smallbone & Obafemi feature this season, it’s sad to see Slattery / Ramsay / Valery seemingly take backward steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Yeah, whilst it’s great to see Smallbone & Obafemi feature this season, it’s sad to see Slattery / Ramsay / Valery seemingly take backward steps.
    Ramsey is another weird one, played a few times last season and did okay but seems I be miles away from the first team now when he really should be kicking on to compete with Valery for first choice right back

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    Why has slatted your been treated so differently this year to last. Seen rumours of attitude issues do we know if that’s true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Ramsey is another weird one, played a few times last season and did okay but seems I be miles away from the first team now when he really should be kicking on to compete with Valery for first choice right back
    Valery isn't first choice, Walker-Peters is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Valery isn't first choice, Walker-Peters is.
    If Valery & Ramsey hadn't gone backwards, we would not have acquired Walker-Peters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylander View Post
    If Valery & Ramsey hadn't gone backwards, we would not have acquired Walker-Peters.
    Ramsey didn't go backwards - he was just massively over-promoted.

    At no stage during his brief flirtation with the first team did he look remotely close to the required level.

    Slow full backs don't tend to last long in the PL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Valery isn't first choice, Walker-Peters is.
    Yet again youíve joined in a discussion and made yourself look stupid

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