Pilchards Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 What kind of Premiership team do you think we will become? Do you believe we could ever be one of the big four or maybe like Villa/Everton that have the odd good season? Perhaps you might think we will struggle to invest once we are there and could be like Bolton? I personally think they do have a game plan to bring champions league football to St Mary's but I reckon it would need about 300 million to do so, I have a feeling Markus would chase that as he has so much passion for SFC right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Heart says yes we could, head says mmm, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I disagree. I think we will be a team a little bit better off than Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Totally down to how much Leibherr wants to spend. Once we're in the Premiership money is all that matters, think it would take alot more than 300m to get a CL side as well. Man City have probably spent close to that amount and they aren't exactly top four material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I would settle for the odd stint in the EUFA Cup. I don't enjoy seeing us get thrashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I genuinely don't care as I'm enjoying my football more this year than I have done since '03! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 It's down to how ML spends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I genuinely don't care as I'm enjoying my football more this year than I have done since '03! Same here, enjoying this season a lot more than I thought I would. All change from the first 5-6 games of the season, pre Charlton was shocking and everything since has been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 What's this "Premiership" and "EUFA Cup" people are talking about ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 We are as big/if not bigger a club then the following: Middlesborough Bolton Fulham The Skates Wigan Birmingham Blackburn Reading These are teams that have achieved comfortable mid table finishes and european qualification in recent years. With proper, consistent and professional management we can comfortably be a top ten premiership side. That could be said about a lot of other clubs though. (Nottingham Forest, Newcastle, Sunderland, Leeds etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 What's this "Premiership" and "EUFA Cup" people are talking about ? Olden day versions of the Premier and the Europa Leagues I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 (edited) There's no way we could ever be a top 4 team, the cost would be huge and I honestly would not want to see Markus wasting his money trying to achieve it (fairly unlikely he would throw money around like that too). I would settle for being a top half team, occasional cup run, UEFA push, attractive football. A sort of South Coast Villa, that suits the size of our club and is sustainable if Markus ever moved on. Edited 7 December, 2009 by Brussels Saint spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 forget about that lets get out the bottom half of league one, 5 year plans don't always work not matter how much money you throw at them, it takes more than that, one of those aspects it patience, along with common sense and not getting ahead of themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I was sort of discussing this yesterday with a few of my relatives who are Tottenham junkies. They were complaining about the cost of getting to see a game and how they don't go as much as they used to. How much do we want the Premiership and would it be worth the entrance money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 (edited) It's down to how ML spends. I fear he might be tempted to cash in when we get there, he could sell the club for £60-80 Million, an pocket a sizable return. We've just got to hope he's caught the saints-bug before then. If he has then the sky's the limit, and I would see no reason why we couldn't consistantly achive finishes in the top 6. If Liebherr loses interest we might find either a complete lack of investment or worse a new owner in the Gaydamak mold... I have faith in Liebherr, I want teams like Spurs to look up to us in envy. Edited 7 December, 2009 by Joensuu 'know reason'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I have faith in Liebherr, I want teams like Spurs to look up to us in envy. Over the last eighteen months only Man City have spent more than Spurs so would be asking alot! Spurs have spent more than Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Over the last eighteen months only Man City have spent more than Spurs so would be asking alot! Spurs have spent more than Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. Yes but they have got Bagpuss in charge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I am just going to enjoy getting there first and then turning over the big clubs ever now and again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 It's down to how ML spends. Totally agree but it will take sometime to get a really good premiership squad together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 First season in the prem I would be happy just to stay up. There after, steady growth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I think a lot of this spculation is way wide of the mark. I think we'll get to the premiership, markus will sell to make money on his investment and turbulent times will follow. Enjoy the winning while it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I think a lot of this spculation is way wide of the mark. I think we'll get to the premiership, markus will sell to make money on his investment and turbulent times will follow. Enjoy the winning while it lasts. Tbf nobody has a scrap of evidence either way. I personally would like to think that when we get there it will mean more to Markus than just a financial project. Certainly when cortese says about him falling asleep smiling it sounds promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I doubt we'll be looking at the sort of ridiculous expenditure needed to be a big four team.. Personally I think we'll be a yo-yo team bouncing back and forth between the champ and prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made in Southampton Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I think a lot of this spculation is way wide of the mark. I think we'll get to the premiership, markus will sell to make money on his investment and turbulent times will follow. Enjoy the winning while it lasts. Talk about your massive buzzkills. Bet your a bundle of laughs at a party ain't cha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Talk about your massive buzzkills. Bet your a bundle of laughs at a party ain't cha. It's being so cheerful as keeps 'im going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I would be delighted with a Fulham style outlook. Not much danger of relegation and fighting for 8th playing some nice football and being well run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Depends on whether ML and NC want us to be fully self sufficient in the Prem. If so we are going to need 30K season ticket holders and an enlarged stadium to accomodate 40K plus in order that matchday revenues can get close to supporting the costs of Prem players. Realistically there are no self sufficient Prem teams, they all have a benefactor of some sort who dips his hand in his pocket from time to time and to a greater (Man City) or lesser (Wolves) extent. If ML is up for it I would think that we could be a rival for the likes of Fulham, Birmingham or Sunderland and depending on the quality of manager and players we can attract should be able to look forward to mid to top half placing fairly regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I think a lot of this spculation is way wide of the mark. I think we'll get to the premiership, markus will sell to make money on his investment and turbulent times will follow. Enjoy the winning while it lasts. So his I'm here for the long term statement cuts no ice with you, yorksaint..? I've actually speculated what might happen to the club if Markus Leibherr sold it. Do you think he would deliver to people who wouldn't try to better it..? I don't. But then, I think he's here for the long term anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 By the time this happens (if it ever does) football will have imploded - the top 4 will be bankrupt, and we will walk the league with a team built on a budget of £500,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 By the time this happens (if it ever does) football will have imploded - the top 4 will be bankrupt, and we will walk the league with a team built on a budget of £500,000. they have been saying that since 1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 they have been saying that since 1993 Have they? Who the bloody hell are these soothsayers anyway? My missus keeps referring to them too. They seem to have an opinion on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammy Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 What concerns me (purely personal view) Is what the cost of a season ticket would be by the time we get to the premier league assuming that we are going to be run on a self funding basis. I reckon in 5 years time even with 32k fans you wouldn't get much change from £1000+! Add on travel expenses etc and many ordinary long serving fans would be priced out. I'd be happy winning the Championship year after year (yes I know it's not possible) and stuff the Premier league. Have felt for a few years now that the championship is a much better league for genuine fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 What concerns me (purely personal view) Is what the cost of a season ticket would be by the time we get to the premier league assuming that we are going to be run on a self funding basis. I reckon in 5 years time even with 32k fans you wouldn't get much change from £1000+! Add on travel expenses etc and many ordinary long serving fans would be priced out. I'd be happy winning the Championship year after year (yes I know it's not possible) and stuff the Premier league. Have felt for a few years now that the championship is a much better league for genuine fans. what makes a fan more genuine for the reason of having less money..? anyway...what are the season ticket prices down the road at pompey now..? that may be a sort of figure we COULD well look at..maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 what makes a fan more genuine for the reason of having less money..? anyway...what are the season ticket prices down the road at pompey now..? that may be a sort of figure we COULD well look at..maybe About £400 more than I paid for mine and my nippers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammy Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Of course money does not make a fan any more or less genuine Dell Days. My point being the amount of fickle prem league fans that jump ship in the hard times leaving what I class as genuine support still going week in week out thru the hard times. Poopey season ticket I believe is currently approx £650. My concern is the spiralling cost of supporting a prem league team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I genuinely don't care as I'm enjoying my football more this year than I have done since '03! I know - let's volunteer to accept relegation from whichever division we're in at the end of every season and then before very long we might end up winning 42 games a season in the Blue Square South . (assuming we can overcome mighty Weston-Super-Mare that is) Let joy be unconfined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwellsaint Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I genuinely don't care as I'm enjoying my football more this year than I have done since '03! in a nutshell! lets enjoy the trips to walsall etc and watching a good side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Samuel Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I'll settle for being an established mid table side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I would not want Champions League football. UEFA cup at most. I'd hate prices rocketing up and the ground filled with prawn sandwich munching snobs that are only there to watch the football as a spectacle and to not get behind saints, or all the fairweather fans that crawl out of the woodwork because the team is in the Premiership. Following saints means more to me than just the quality of football played on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 1 step at a time we're still in the bottom half of L1 and alot will need to change for us to become a sustained prem. club again, not just a top 10 club...but a sustained bottom half club. The prem. has changed so much since we were last in it, to the point where teams like Stoke and Hull are having to shell out 20 odd million just to achieve safety. There's a long way to go yet, but we'll make it eventually. These guy's will not fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 If we can rejoin the Prem debt free I'll be happy. I think over the next few seasons quite a few clubs are going to be in trouble. I'll settle for 30K attendance plus TV money.........with ALL of it going to run the club and none going to repay debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 IF we get to the Premiership then I'd like to be the kind of team we were in the early noughties. Playing well, good team, mid-table but with a chance of getting into Europe every year. Of course we'd all say we'd want to be in the top 4 but that's a pipe dream. Frankly, thinking about the Premiership at all is a pipe dream, but I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 What kind of Premiership team do you think we will become? Do you believe we could ever be one of the big four or maybe like Villa/Everton that have the odd good season? Perhaps you might think we will struggle to invest once we are there and could be like Bolton? I personally think they do have a game plan to bring champions league football to St Mary's but I reckon it would need about 300 million to do so, I have a feeling Markus would chase that as he has so much passion for SFC right now. It's impossible to say at present isn't it, but more interestingly, if we are in the Prem. in (say) 4-5 years ...how many of the present squad would you expect to see in the line-up --if any ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 For f*ck sake. Were in the bottom half of League 1. One step at a time. TBH for now I would be happy if we were a top half of of CCC side. That would actually be half decent football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 It's impossible to say at present isn't it, but more interestingly, if we are in the Prem. in (say) 4-5 years ...how many of the present squad would you expect to see in the line-up --if any ? Lallana, after his terrible spell at Spurs, who signed him for £5 million at the end of the 2010-2011 season. Lambert, having banged in 30+ goals every season since signing. Hammond, like Marsden the lower league player that turns it up a gear no matter what League we're in. McLaggon, the best young player to come through the Saints ranks since Walcott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 It's impossible to say at present isn't it, but more interestingly, if we are in the Prem. in (say) 4-5 years ...how many of the present squad would you expect to see in the line-up --if any ? good question...lets say we get to the prem for the 2013/2014 season out of the current squad the only players (right now) I could see being in the squad would be.... Lallana Morgan Lambert (maybe) Harding waigo (if we sign him) Antonio (maybe if we sign him) Hammomd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoozonside10 Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 good question...lets say we get to the prem for the 2013/2014 season out of the current squad the only players (right now) I could see being in the squad would be.... Lallana Morgan Lambert (maybe) Harding waigo (if we sign him) Antonio (maybe if we sign him) Hammomd Waigo - as much as I love him - is not premiership material, doubtful about Antonio too, as for Harding....sorry but he gets skinned too much for my liking in this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 good question...lets say we get to the prem for the 2013/2014 season out of the current squad the only players (right now) I could see being in the squad would be.... Lallana Morgan Lambert (maybe) Harding waigo (if we sign him) Antonio (maybe if we sign him) Hammomd Only Lallana and Schniederlin reckon and they're borderline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 For f*ckake. Were in the bottom half of League 1. One step at a time. TBH for now I would be happy if we were a top half of of CCC side. That would actually be half decent football. Knew someone would post that. As the clubs stated aim is to be in the prem in 5 years, I think it's ok to speculate what we will be like if that plan is successful. If we aren't promoted by next season then I would be amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 Only Lallana and Schniederlin reckon and they're borderline. I think in three or four years they will be Premiership class I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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