Lambert out?

[1976_Child]

Sounds like Lambert is not interested in playing football this season. Certainly looks that way at home games. Maybe it is time to off-load him come January and spend the proceeds plus a bit more on a proven striker, unlike a one season-wonder.

[Ludwig]

Yes, this confirms it; you are mental.

[1976_Child]

Yes, this confirms it; you are mental.

 

sorry, you are right. I forgot, he has scored loads of goals this season, is fit and is in no way dragging his feet.

[OttawaSaint]

Surely you have homework to do or something...

[dickyhale]

attention seeker...... go to bed PLEASE.

[1976_Child]

Surely you have homework to do or something...

 

nope, all done. When was the last time you were at a home game, may I ask?

[Winchester_Saint]

Lambert is an easy player to target and take our frustrations out on because of how well he played throughout last season. However, nobody is up to scratch so far and everybody seems to be playing way below their best, not just Lambert. All teams have bad runs, let's just hope this is our one and only of the season! Can't quite see it, but oh well. Adkins needs to get them to all play for their place on Saturday.

[Saint_clark]

Pahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who the f*ck do you think we are going to be able to get in this league who is more proven, or even AS proven, as Rickie Lambert?

You absolute mentalist.

[Matthew Le God]

Sounds like Lambert is not interested in playing football this season. Certainly looks that way at home games. Maybe it is time to off-load him come January and spend the proceeds plus a bit more on a proven striker, unlike a one season-wonder.

 

"one season wonder"

 

???

 

2010/11 - 2 league goals from 5 League games

2009/10 - 31 League goals

2008/09 - 29 League goals

2007/08 - 14 League goals

2006/07 - 8 League goals

2005/06 - 22 League goals

[1976_Child]

Pahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who the f*ck do you think we are going to be able to get in this league who is more proven, or even AS proven, as Rickie Lambert?

You absolute mentalist.

 

Proven? bahhhhhhhhhhhahahahhaahah!!! Since when was he proven? One season does not a striker make! sorry, but he has been pants so far this season. And not just pants, but really poor. You can't deny that. Barnard has been much better; never mind the goal tally, Barnard has worked harder and been keener. Lambert has not been firing on all cylinders and unless there is a marked improvement soon then he should not just expect to make the starting 11 by virtue of just 'being Lambert'.

[Saint_clark]

Proven? bahhhhhhhhhhhahahahhaahah!!! Since when was he proven? One season does not a striker make! sorry, but he has been pants so far this season. And not just pants, but really poor. You can't deny that. Barnard has been much better; never mind the goal tally, Barnard has worked harder and been keener. Lambert has not been firing on all cylinders and unless there is a marked improvement soon then he should not just expect to make the starting 11 by virtue of just 'being Lambert'.

 

See MLGs last post.

Dunno what you're laughing at.

[1976_Child]

"one season wonder"

 

???

 

2010/11 - 2 league goals from 5 League games

2009/10 - 31 League goals

2008/09 - 29 League goals

2007/08 - 14 League goals

2006/07 - 8 League goals

2005/06 - 22 League goals

 

utterly meaningless statistics, and you know it. If he is not fitting into his present team then his past performance can go whistle. And this season he ain't performing.

[Saint Garrett]

Maybe its the lack of service he's currently getting? Ever thought of that. To score 2 goals already this season, when he's clearly not 100%, missed the first game of the season, and we haven't scored for 4 games? Not that bad?

 

Admittably he hasn't been anywhere near the form of last season - but like it has already been mentioned, the whole team isn't doing it at the moment.

[Whitey Grandad]

All strikers go through lean spells. To talk about getting rid of him after a handful of games is a bit premature, don't you think?

[Saint_Donovan]

utterly meaningless statistics, and you know it. If he is not fitting into his present team then his past performance can go whistle. And this season he ain't performing.

 

How on earth can a strikers goal scoring record be called a meaningless stat? Surely that's the only stat that is meaningful?

[rick1976.4.38]

i dont think rooney was dropped and how long was it he hadnt scored for manure.rl is good just a bad patch at the moment but he will come good,get behind him ffs.wifm

[landford.saint]

Its not just the lack of goals.... Last night he just was not interested.... I thought at first he was carrying an injury and was just there because without Barnard we have no other options, but he just wandered around, no interest in running, challagining or anything else football related. He was shocking truly shocking.

[dune]

ha ha. you've been on the shadies again I see. I agree that he needs to buck his ideas up though. People keep saying he's lacking the supply, but he should be making his own chances some of the time.

[madruss]

utterly meaningless statistics, and you know it. If he is not fitting into his present team then his past performance can go whistle. And this season he ain't performing.

I've read some tripe on this forum, but this is something else.

 

Are you actually saying that 'goals scored' is a meaningless stat by which to measure a goal scorer???

 

In one post you call RL a one season wonder because of all the GOALS he scored, but then next you say that all the GOALS he scored in the other seasons are meaningless?!

 

Hysteria

[JustMike]

1 to many gins me thinks.

 

This is almost worth getting infracted over

[trousers]

"one season wonder"

 

???

 

2010/11 - 2 league goals from 5 League games

2009/10 - 31 League goals

2008/09 - 29 League goals

2007/08 - 14 League goals

2006/07 - 8 League goals

2005/06 - 22 League goals

 

Would be interested to know the reason for the relatively low goal tally between 2006 - 2008.

 

Maybe he was out injured? A more informative list would be a percentage 'per game' strike rate.

[JustMike]

the goals are hardly flowing from any other area at the moment, so have you maybe considered that the strikers just arent getting the service?

[GenevaSaint]

Sounds like Lambert is not interested in playing football this season. Certainly looks that way at home games. Maybe it is time to off-load him come January and spend the proceeds plus a bit more on a proven striker, unlike a one season-wonder.

 

I'm sure Ferguson is thinking the same way about Rooney and of course Hodgson about Torres.

 

Strikers, even world class ones have off periods. Get over it.

[S-Clarke]

I don't think he's fit, simple as that. He's playing because we have no other options and i hope we're not causing him more harm by playing him.

 

Get a loan in, drop him for a few weeks so he can get fit - and I'm confident we'll see a different player when he comes back.

 

But don't be silly, he's not a one season wonder. He's proven in this league season after season, but at the moment he's playing like he's had the worst pre-season of his life.

[rolosfc]

Sounds like Lambert is not interested in playing football this season. Certainly looks that way at home games. Maybe it is time to off-load him come January and spend the proceeds plus a bit more on a proven striker, unlike a one season-wonder.

 

One season wonder??? Did he not score any goals at Bristol Rovers???

[Shroppie]

Its not just the lack of goals.... Last night he just was not interested.... I thought at first he was carrying an injury and was just there because without Barnard we have no other options, but he just wandered around, no interest in running, challagining or anything else football related. He was shocking truly shocking.

 

I've got to agree. I was at the game and apart from one shot, there was nothing to remember about RL's game.

 

I left thinking there is something seriously wrong with him.

 

Is he carrying an injury? He hardly left the ground for any header, his control from long balls was a pale imitaion of last season and his movement when we played on the ground was virtually non-existant. If so drop him until he's fit.

 

Is this connected to the AP saga? AP brought him in. Has he no interest in playing for anyone else? Was he against the group of players who allegedly met NC to put their grievances about AP so is there a rift in the team?

 

Either way, something radical needs to be done.

[Cestrian Saint]

He's not performing because he's not happy at Saints. There was an approach made for him in the summer. Lambert wanted to go as it was a much bigger club and Saints refused to let him talk to them.

 

Next.

[Toadhall Saint]

All goal scores go through lean patches. Stick with him he will score.

 

Me, I blame the lack of fitness through out the side and that includes RL. Think that will change over the coming weeks and we will see the addition of some pace up front.

[Toadhall Saint]

He's not performing because he's not happy at Saints. There was an approach made for him in the summer. Lambert wanted to go as it was a much bigger club and Saints refused to let him talk to them.

 

Next.

 

Source?

[david in sweden]

" Barnard has been much better; never mind the goal tally, Barnard has worked harder and been keener." Lambert has not been firing on all cylinders and unless there is a marked improvement soon then he should not just expect to make the starting 11 by virtue of just 'being Lambert'.

 

Lots of "strikers " work their a** off ...and score 6 goals a season. Being a striker means ...SCORING LOTS OF GOALS .

Most of us could name half-a-dozen fans favourites who worked their socks off week after week and nothing to show for it, Brett Ormerod was one excellent example. In the past, some people called Channon " lazy "...two England managers thought MLT was lazy", so too James Beattie on many occasions, LOTS of Saints fans said 20 goal Rasiak was " lazy " and maybe he was, but he was one of only 4 players to attain 20 goals in the LAST 20 years!

 

I really cannot accept the " lazy" accusation about players, that the one reason they are on the pitch to SCORE !

Barnard may look good, fit ..even be called " our best player " (quote AP) and I agree ...but where were all his goals?

Though a good partner for Lambert, he is not in the " same league " as a goal scorer.

[saintwiz]

David,

who can we sign that is a proven goalscorer in January?

[Wes Tender]

utterly meaningless statistics, and you know it. If he is not fitting into his present team then his past performance can go whistle. And this season he ain't performing.

 

He wasn't fit starting the season because he had been carrying an injury.

He has not been receiving the service.

Like all strikers, he is going through a bad patch, a lack of self-belief perhaps. It happens to all strikers.

 

There, I've done your homework for you. All you have to do is pad it out a bit to the requisite number of words and you can present it as an essay.

[Wes Tender]

He's not performing because he's not happy at Saints. There was an approach made for him in the summer. Lambert wanted to go as it was a much bigger club and Saints refused to let him talk to them.

 

Next.

 

So, he's having a sulk then? That's going to massively improve his chances of being bought by a higher placed club then, isn't it, scoring fewer goals?

[Sour Mash]

He's not performing because he's not happy at Saints. There was an approach made for him in the summer. Lambert wanted to go as it was a much bigger club and Saints refused to let him talk to them.

 

Next.

 

I've got no insider knowledge on this, but I've said to everyone I go to games with that I reckon a club in a higher division bid for Lambert in the summer and he's not happy about not being given the chance. There can be no doubt that clubs further up the leagues would have been interested given his goal scoring record and I reckon a fair few clubs would have been able to match his wages. Lambert isn't getting any younger and has never had the chance to play in the top two divisions, that must be playing on his mind and his heart definitely doesn't look in it this year.

[alpine_saint]

In the mid-term, it may well be that Pardew's personality cult needs dismantling and we need to re-build.

 

Imo, the players are acting like a bunch of little spoilt c**ts.

[Saint_clark]

Would be interested to know the reason for the relatively low goal tally between 2006 - 2008.

 

Maybe he was out injured? A more informative list would be a percentage 'per game' strike rate.

 

Didn't he play in midfield until 2008?

[Beachcombers Windowsill]

utterly meaningless statistics, and you know it. If he is not fitting into his present team then his past performance can go whistle. And this season he ain't performing.

 

[norwaysaint]

Wow, does anyone remember Beattie's barren spells? He sometimes used to go 10 or 11 games without scoring. He was still our best option at the time by far.

[NorthamSteve]

For ****'s sake

[scott_saints]

Ffs I hate the human race.

[Secret Site Agent]

attention seeker...... go to bed PLEASE.

 

+1 to Reggie. Whilst we are at it, lets off load Barnard as he is only interested in getting sent off this season, and that lazy lallana he can't be bothered to gte fit.

 

Now Puncheon on the other hand....................

[ottery st mary]

Mr Lambert to score two on Saturday........

 

Come on Rikeeeeeee..

 

Hope he is now properly fit after his groin injury....

 

Saints to win 4-0......

 

WIFM

[Saint Billy]

He's not performing because he's not happy at Saints. There was an approach made for him in the summer. Lambert wanted to go as it was a much bigger club and Saints refused to let him talk to them.

 

Next.

 

That would not surprise me if it was true!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Wow, this makes my thread look well thought out. Mental.

[DAZZER82]

Are u mental? What a joke, he dosent score for a few games and u want to get rid? Some people really havent got a clue!

[Dr Who?]

If he can get fit and get a couple of goals there would be no stopping him!

[Stu Man Do]

Meaningless because they don't fit with what you're spouting? I agree that hes been poor this season but to bang on that as a striker he isn't scoring enough and not good enough for the team is just wrong. The guys scored over 60 goals in 2 seasons at this level so hes hardly unproven at this level.

[Scudamore]

 

I hate this place sometimes...

[Jez]

Proven? bahhhhhhhhhhhahahahhaahah!!! Since when was he proven? One season does not a striker make!

 

1976_Child is notable by his absence. Obviously sobered up now and realised what tosh he was talking!!

 

If Lambert carries on with his current scoring rate, 2 goals every 5 games, he'll get 22 goals for Saints this season in the league alone - sounds good to me!

[chrisobee]

nope, all done. When was the last time you were at a home game, may I ask?

 

That's the answer people generally give when they have nothing better to say. Were you at Milton Keynes last night, if not why not ? Easy enough to get to compared to flying from Ottawa to Southampton wouldn't you agree ?

Anyway to call him a one season wonder is stupid, he's effectively only played one season for us so as posted above his previous record is totally relevant. I've seen many very good Saints strikers struggle at times, in fact I'm struggling to think of any who haven't ! It's pretty simple really, you start the season badly, lose confidence and your form dips. I've nothing against Barnard but his sending off v Swindon was totally unnecessary and apart from losing him it's put pressure on the other strikers and essentially we only have 2 ! Connolly is more of a player to come off the bench and hopefully change the game and so that leaves Lambert who, if memory serves, played 58 games last season and scored 37 goals. In one other game he came on as a substitute. He may well need a break but most of us I believe agreed we needed another striker to ease the pressure on him. Speculation that he wants to leave is purely that as far as I'm aware. In the same way as I'll give the new manager a chance I'll give all the players a chance of a fresh start, the pre season and early season was, as it often is with us, a bit of a nightmare. I wasn't wildly enthusiastic when I first heard Atkins had been appointed but having given it plenty of thought I see it as a good appointment, anyone who can do as well as he did at Scunny clearly has something to offer. He clearly has plenty of challenges, restoring Rickie's confidence is one.