League of louts!

[Gingeletiss]

From the sun, the listings of banning orders for the 2008-2009 season. We made 54th with 19 orders, our fishy fiends from the island of incest, made it 6th with 88 orders. Beaten only by those paragons of virtue, Leeds 162...Cardiff 124...Milwall 110...Newcastle 99...and Wolves 98.

 

Liverpool crept in at 9th and Manure 10th.

 

See, we're not such a bad lot after all;)

[Micky]

From the sun, the listings of banning orders for the 2008-2009 season. We made 54th with 19 orders, our fishy fiends from the island of incest, made it 6th with 88 orders. Beaten only by those paragons of virtue, Leeds 162...Cardiff 124...Milwall 110...Newcastle 99...and Wolves 98.

 

Liverpool crept in at 9th and Manure 10th.

 

See, we're not such a bad lot after all;)

 

Thats bollux, I don'd believe that for one minute. Are you trying to tell me that half the people that go to Notarf Krap have banning orders....!!! Shocking...

[Danny R]

Ha ha. What a shame for our wannabe hoolies and the 'yoof'. Family club, always will be.

 

Surely the Skates are pound for pound the worst, looking at attendances etc.

[1976_Child]

****ing yoof of today can't do anything right. 54th is a ****ing disgrace. the yoof need to stop having choir practice in the northam singing bloody songs about washing skate's mouths out and get their hoodies out and actually start bashing a few teeth in. Bloody hell if Barney is going to go to all the (alleged) trouble of providing solid leadership in this area then the bloody least our yoof can do is step up and help get us up the hooligan league table.

 

54th? pathetic, wouldn't have happened in my day.

[dronskisaint]

Thats bollux, I don'd believe that for one minute. Are you trying to tell me that half the people that go to Notarf Krap have banning orders....!!! Shocking...

 

Class!

[View From The Top]

Most of the skate banning orders, 50 odd IIRC, were from their riot after they played us at FP.

 

The banning orders dished out after the last derby game are yet to be included.

[VectisSaint]

The banning orders dished out after the last derby game are yet to be included.

These things tend not to be back dated, it would be silly to include orders from a game last week in stats from 2008-9 season.

[Hatch]

Most of the skate banning orders, 50 odd IIRC, were from their riot after they played us at FP.

 

The banning orders dished out after the last derby game are yet to be included.

 

 

I think they are fresh ones, most of the 3 yr bans from that game would have expired by 2008/9 season.

[aintforever]

Sort of dispels the myth of Saints having a bad hooligan problem.

[The Cat]

Judging by the crowd today I'd estimate about 2000 Saints Yoof must have been banned after the Bournemouth game as there were about that many fewer Stone Island badges in the ground compared to last week.

[Window Cleaner]

Judging by the crowd today I'd estimate about 2000 Saints Yoof must have been banned after the Bournemouth game as there were about that many fewer Stone Island badges in the ground compared to last week.

 

probably run out of pocket money already

[ossie1]

Judging by the crowd today I'd estimate about 2000 Saints Yoof must have been banned after the Bournemouth game as there were about that many fewer Stone Island badges in the ground compared to last week.

 

what happened to your missing 4000 home fans who were there last week

 

remind us who's cup final it was:toppa:

[Amesbury Saint]

what happened to your missing 4000 home fans who were there last week

 

remind us who's cup final it was:toppa:

 

welcome back our feeder club fan.

[The Cat]

what happened to your missing 4000 home fans who were there last week

 

remind us who's cup final it was:toppa:

 

To be fair I agree with you. We do have a good support, but in my world Saints should sell all their home tickets every week. People just make excuses not to come but they'll come scurrying back if we get to the Premier League.

 

How was Brighton today? Hope none of your fans left early and missed the penalty which I hear was incredibly dodgy. Maybe you'll stop moaning about soft penalty's now? That would be nice.

 

See you in March for another easy 3 points.

[Chez]

Hope none of your fans left early and missed the penalty

not sure if they left early, but there were plenty of empy seats in that 900 capacity away end. I guess the match was kind of like `after the lord majors show', are more fittingly like a game after the cup final perhaps?

[ossie1]

To be fair I agree with you. We do have a good support, but in my world Saints should sell all their home tickets every week. People just make excuses not to come but they'll come scurrying back if we get to the Premier League.

 

How was Brighton today? Hope none of your fans left early and missed the penalty which I hear was incredibly dodgy. Maybe you'll stop moaning about soft penalty's now? That would be nice.

 

See you in March for another easy 3 points.

 

strange they all came scurrying along to watch little ol afcb ...

 

by the way we were selling tickets for your cup final today, the queue got to 40 long...you see deep down we really dont care :-)

[scott_saints]

I don't think our second club fan quite understands this attendance thing from last week. To sum up:

 

We sold more because we have slightly moree interest in the game than most other games, especially knowing how much it means to the away fans.

You sold s**t loads because it was your cup final.

 

Really is quite simple.

[Gemmel]

strange they all came scurrying along to watch little ol afcb ...

 

by the way we were selling tickets for your cup final today, the queue got to 40 long...you see deep down we really dont care :-)

 

ossie, this really isnt something to be bragging about...... actually it is one of the saddest, most pathetic things, ive seen any football club do. 5 months ....5 ******* months early. I Would imagine those cherries with more than 6 braincells, have worked out why.

 

I wouldnt take the **** out of of Saints to much at the moment, based on the early ticket sale, you might just need a freindly local team, who will play revenue generating friendlies, helpful groundsmen and the odd bucket collector.

 

Your fooked mush

[ossie1]

7 days -4000 missing home fans

 

you couldnt make it up

[rocknrollman no2]

what happened to your missing 4000 home fans who were there last week

 

remind us who's cup final it was:toppa:

 

Hi ossie1.

Nice to see you on a Saints fans forum on a Saturday night.Got nothing better to do?I see your bubbles burst only drawing with Brighton.Thought you lot were going to be the top of the table for most of this season?(Well according to the deluded fans i spoke to last week.)

Funny how you mock us for missing 4000 fans,yet your shed of a ground only holds just over that.

I also heard that there were supposedly a few Skates in with your lot last week.Does this mean you lot cant even get enough of your own fans to come to St Marys?

Sad,very sad my little Boscombe friend.

[St_Tel49]

ossie, this really isnt something to be bragging about...... actually it is one of the saddest, most pathetic things, ive seen any football club do. 5 months ....5 ******* months early. I Would imagine those cherries with more than 6 braincells, have worked out why.

 

I wouldnt take the **** out of of Saints to much at the moment, based on the early ticket sale, you might just need a freindly local team, who will play revenue generating friendlies, helpful groundsmen and the odd bucket collector.

 

Your fooked mush

If the quality of Ossie's posts are anything to go by it is someone else's turn with the 6 brain cells!

[explorer saint]

7 days -4000 missing home fans

 

you couldnt make it up

 

Not really B'mouth had 3200 seats if I'm not wrong with a few skates inbred in there Tranmere brought down approx 300 so you're argument is dowm in flames straight away

[RedWillie]

yes, but the 19,0000 who did come and watch the mighty Tranmere make up for nearly 4 (yes FOUR) times your average gate !!!! Ho Ho, you fool. Go back to your care home.

[IFHP]

strange they all came scurrying along to watch little ol afcb ...

 

by the way we were selling tickets for your cup final today, the queue got to 40 long...you see deep down we really dont care :-)

 

Only 40? if you say so. Also what happened to your missing away fans today? 3200 last week 400 today at Brighton? Didn't you tell us that Brighton was a much bigger game? yeah, ok if you say so.

 

XXXXX

[rocknrollman no2]

Only 40? if you say so. Also what happened to your missing away fans today? 3200 last week 400 today at Brighton? Didn't you tell us that Brighton was a much bigger game? yeah, ok if you say so.

 

XXXXX

 

You mean the so well supported Bournemouth only took a pathetic 400 to Brighton?

I guess the rest of their crowd that came to St Marys last week must have gone back to Fratton Park.lol.

[stu0x]

I don't get it. Why are people arguing with this guy as if Bournemouth are our rivals? We've been propping them up almost as long as I can remember. You wouldn't get into an argument with your hamster would you. Just give him a pat on the head and move on.

[StVince1966]

nearly 20 thousand today! not bad for a team in midtable in this league? ofcourse mighty bournemouth get this every week?

[Turkish]

i think you'll find those figures are out of date; we now have over 100 on bans and have had more bans dished out in the last season than any club in the country. Also 14 in prison at the moment with no doubt more to follow after recent events v Bournemouth. A family club we are no more and i for one am pleased about that.

[rocknrollman no2]

i think you'll find those figures are out of date; we now have over 100 on bans and have had more bans dished out in the last season than any club in the country. Also 14 in prison at the moment with no doubt more to follow after recent events v Bournemouth. A family club we are no more and i for one am pleased about that.

 

Why do you think its good that Saints fans are looked apon as troublemakers?

That means the police treat us the same as Millwall,Leeds etc and treat us accordingly,which means pubs dont let us in at away grounds and other fans are more up for wanting to have a go at us.

I love the banter with away fans and theres many a ground ive gone to where i have had a great time with the home fans.

Perhaps im getting old,but i just cant understand why you want to see more aggro at football?

[sfcuk fan]

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Edited 9 October, 2010 by sfcuk fan
missed the quote out, pointless without it so deleted :-(

[Turkish]

Why do you think its good that Saints fans are looked apon as troublemakers?

That means the police treat us the same as Millwall,Leeds etc and treat us accordingly,which means pubs dont let us in at away grounds and other fans are more up for wanting to have a go at us.

I love the banter with away fans and theres many a ground ive gone to where i have had a great time with the home fans.

Perhaps im getting old,but i just cant understand why you want to see more aggro at football?

 

because i want St Marys to be an intimdating place to come, i dont want us to be seen as a push over at home, a soft easy place to come. Millwall, West Ham, Leeds etc where sbast*ard places to go in the 80's and not many teams came away with a result, fans went their with their wits about them, tough place to go. I want other teams to fear coming here, to hate it and to know that to get a result you not only have to beat the team you have to beat the crowd too, sadly, i think we have a lot of pussies in our support so this will never happen.

[latter day saint]

would it be possible for us to intimidate the opposition by getting behind our team & supporting them with a loud support, rather than threatening to brick their team bus or do over their fans?

[rocknrollman no2]

I totally agree with you in wanting to make SMS an intimidating place for teams to come to,but i also see the other side of that when visiting away grounds.

The police treat you like would be troublemakers and restrict your every movement.Away pubs dont let you in within a hundred miles of their ground.Also away fans are more likely to want to have a go,so eventually going to football becomes less appealing.

I personally dont want us to go down this route.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

what happened to your missing 4000 home fans who were there last week

 

remind us who's cup final it was:toppa:

 

There was more to laugh at last week you troll! Watching chavskatewannabes being hoisted by their own petards would be infinitely more fun than

watching Saints play well against an honest, workmanlike club like Tranmere. Although, to be honest, I enjoyed yesterday's game more. The pre-pubescent yob element from the Northam visitors section were less in numbers but they were equally supportive of their team despite that.

 

Now run along, haven't you got wind up work to do here ?

 

welcome back our feeder club fan.

 

We've got Adam Lallana! That's what all this 'beachiness' is about!

[Micky]

i think you'll find those figures are out of date; we now have over 100 on bans and have had more bans dished out in the last season than any club in the country. Also 14 in prison at the moment with no doubt more to follow after recent events v Bournemouth. A family club we are no more and i for one am pleased about that.

 

The figures may well be out of date, our BO's may have increased, but the same may also be true for many other clubs as well. Resultantly we may actually have fallen further down the 'bad boys' league table, which whilst pleasing most fans would obviously not sit so well with you. We all want SMS to be an intimidating place for other teams to play, I doubt there are many on here who feel that football violence or holiganism is the way to achieve that aim.

 

You would probably find that many of the BO's were dished out for incidents that happened outside of stadia anyway, and therefore had no direct effect of what happens during any game. I doubt whether there are too many incidents inside grounds that any of the players on the field either see or actually take a blind bit of note of.

 

Your aspirations for an intimidating atmosphere at SMS are shared, but to intimate that this can be achieved through 'yob culture' is, at best, misguided.

[The Majestic Channon]

strange they all came scurrying along to watch little ol afcb ...

 

by the way we were selling tickets for your cup final today, the queue got to 40 long...you see deep down we really dont care :-)

 

Best post quick before your napoleon complex gives you heart failure , got offered a ticket in the home section by my bmth mate, when i suggested his fellow cherries would not be happy he replied " who cares half of them will only go to this match anyway" :-)

[Turkish]

The figures may well be out of date, our BO's may have increased, but the same may also be true for many other clubs as well. Resultantly we may actually have fallen further down the 'bad boys' league table, which whilst pleasing most fans would obviously not sit so well with you. We all want SMS to be an intimidating place for other teams to play, I doubt there are many on here who feel that football violence or holiganism is the way to achieve that aim.

 

You would probably find that many of the BO's were dished out for incidents that happened outside of stadia anyway, and therefore had no direct effect of what happens during any game. I doubt whether there are too many incidents inside grounds that any of the players on the field either see or actually take a blind bit of note of.

 

Your aspirations for an intimidating atmosphere at SMS are shared, but to intimate that this can be achieved through 'yob culture' is, at best, misguided.

 

What i meant about being pleased about it, i meant pleased we may be finally shaking off the "family club" tag. It's a little embarassing to be honest, gives the image of a cute friendly little club where away players can come and pick up three easy points and have a nice day out while the all the mums dads and kids sit together in the stands hugging and grinning like an advert for marshall ward.

[Danny R]

i think you'll find those figures are out of date; we now have over 100 on bans and have had more bans dished out in the last season than any club in the country. Also 14 in prison at the moment with no doubt more to follow after recent events v Bournemouth. A family club we are no more and i for one am pleased about that.

 

We are a family club. Anyone who wants us to be like West Ham, Millwall or Leeds really is a deluded moron. Maybe if you and your little oik's get your act together we can rival someone like Norwich one day.

[Turkish]

We are a family club. Anyone who wants us to be like West Ham, Millwall or Leeds really is a deluded moron. Maybe if you and your little oik's get your act together we can rival someone like Norwich one day.

 

Yeah it'd be terrbile to have a stadium away teams hated coming too and felt intimidated playing at.

[Gemmel]

Yeah it'd be terrbile to have a stadium away teams hated coming too and felt intimidated playing at.

 

I'd say we most like a family clu when we were at The Dell and guess what................ away teams hated coming too and felt intimidated playing at

[Turkish]

I'd say we most like a family clu when we were at The Dell and guess what................ away teams hated coming too and felt intimidated playing at

 

that wasn't because of the hostile and noisey crowd, it was because the crowd were so close to the pitch, the Dell pitch might have almost felt claustrophobic compared to what they were used too.

[Gemmel]

that wasn't because of the hostile and noisey crowd, it was because the crowd were so close to the pitch, the Dell pitch might have almost felt claustrophobic compared to what they were used too.

 

Sorry mate, I do understand your point about family club etc, but now you are tying yourself up in knots.

The Dell was nosiey and hostile and most teams including the big boys didn't like coming here. At that point in time Saints were absolutely a family club, which ****es on your argument that you cant have both.

 

 

Everybody wants something different from their football experience..... Take out of it what you want and leave others to do the same.

[Turkish]

Sorry mate, I do understand your point about family club etc, but now you are tying yourself up in knots.

The Dell was nosiey and hostile and most teams including the big boys didn't like coming here. At that point in time Saints were absolutely a family club, which ****es on your argument that you cant have both.

 

 

Everybody wants something different from their football experience..... Take out of it what you want and leave others to do the same.

 

The Dell wasn't noisey and hostile!! I went to Dell most weeks from 1984 onwards and yes it could generate a decent atmosphere at times but it was rarely a hostile place to visit. People seem to hark back to some golden era at the Dell where there was a brillaint atmopshere every week. There wasn't, night games were better but most weeks the only singing came from the East Stand terrace and a small section at the back of the Milton under the family centre. I even remember the paper versions of the Ugly Inside fanzine saying there was little atmoshpere at the Dell in the early 90's. When the seats where installed the Archers end became the singing end and it probably was a bit noiser but to say it was hostile is a joke. Millwall is hostile, Leeds, West Ham, even Fratton Park. That 4-1 game in our relegation season you could tell by the look on the saints players faces they were initimdated in the tunnel before kick off, the game was lost before a ball had been kicked. Obviously i dont want away fans and players coming here fearing for the lives but i dont want them coming here thinking its a nice afternoon stroll in a nice stadium with happy clappy fans. I want teams to fear coming here, thinking they are going to be in for a rough ride from the moment the first whistle sounds.

Big teams didn't like coming to the Dell because of the cramped conditions, not because they were intimidated by the supposedly hostile crowd.

Edited 10 October, 2010 by Turkish

[Leyton Lundekvam]

Turkish, those intimidating places you mention like Millwall, West Ham, etc are inner city clubs, in tougher urban areas. Elements of their support reflect that. I agree that St Mary's is probably far more pleasant to visit on the whole - i notice it every time i come down from london for games. However, as Gemmel points out it doesn't necessarily mean we can't be a fortress from a footballing perspective like we were at The Dell.

 

In terms of our fan base we should just accept that really are more akin to the likes of Norwich etc and derive considerable support from more middle class towns in the area like Winchester etc. Realistically we're never gonna have a rep as a fan base for being particularly intimadating i'm afraid even if we wanted one. On the flip side, nor is the perception of us from the outside world that we are a bunch of c***s, which i for one am happy with as I don't like the aggro of being turned away from away pubs, treated like sh*t by the old bill and kept in behind after matches like a naughty school boy.

[Micky]

Turkish, those intimidating places you mention like Millwall, West Ham, etc are inner city clubs, in tougher urban areas. Elements of their support reflect that. I agree that St Mary's is probably far more pleasant to visit on the whole - i notice it every time i come down from london for games. However, as Gemmel points out it doesn't necessarily mean we can't be a fortress from a footballing perspective like we were at The Dell.

 

In terms of our fan base we should just accept that really are more akin to the likes of Norwich etc and derive considerable support from more middle class towns in the area like Winchester etc. Realistically we're never gonna have a rep as a fan base for being particularly intimadating i'm afraid even if we wanted one. On the flip side, nor is the perception of us from the outside world that we are a bunch of c***s, which i for one am happy with as I don't like the aggro of being turned away from away pubs, treated like sh*t by the old bill and kept in behind after matches like a naughty school boy.

 

Why is it that I find those that post less frequently often talk most sence. Perhaps I should try it...!

[Gemmel]

I think there is some truth in the "Hark back to the Golden Era" comment and yes, there's always the romantic flashbacks, that embellish the realities, but whatever way you dress it up, THe Dell, was noisy and was hostile....all this from a cute family club. Whatever made it that way (Crammed conditions etc.) is irrelevant. It was everything you say it wasn't and if i could be bothered a couple of mins on Google and I reckon i coudl find quotes from the top players and managers saying the same thing.