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guly, but we cant.

why cant he get a game?

i still think weve signed him.

if na doesnt play him he cant fancy him,if he doesnt fancy him hes gotta go back.

if he doesnt go back,then we must have signed him.

he is on big big dough for us,top earner at club

we will struggle to get rid of the rest as wed have to pay them up,as nobody wants them, except for wotts.

money being at a premium

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i still think weve signed him.

 

If he had signed on a permanent deal the Football League would know. They however don't and it is a loan deal.

 

It was announced as a loan with "view to buy", should it go well and all parties are happy. That means the fee has been pre-arranged, but at the moment he is not a Saints player.

 

Clubs can't just make these things up, the football governing bodies register loans and transfers.

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Pulis, Wotton, Forecast., Jaidi.

I would let, Holmes, Mills, Gobern, Doble go out on loan.

Chaplow & Guly could go back to their own clubs.

More important is who we should get in........Madine, Cansdell-Sherriff, & I noticed Wes Hoolahan is not starting for Norwich so I would make a cheeky bid for him.

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I would hazard to say Hammond is on the edge of the outs, as he seems to have lost his bite this season. But the question is who do we back him up with. With Ferguson flirting with the heave-ho at Preston, Chaplow could be flavour of the month back there again.

 

Hammond is our captian and is an almost ever present, I don't understand why so many fans think he will be dropped or sold soon. I would be more inclined to agree with SFC1971, Morgan has looked half the player he was last season, he does not seem that up for it and may be looking for a move.

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hammond? schniederlin, lambert? are you retarded, or just having a laugh!!!!

 

To all those scoffing at the prospect of off-loading Lambert and Schneiderlin, ask yourself honestly - WHY ?

 

From what I can tell, Chaplow makes a better contribution (if we can make a deal for him), and something really has gone wrong with Lambert. Maybe it is in player and clubs best interest if there were a parting of the ways for decent money, allowing a fresh player with similar impact to come in.

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Hammond is our captian and is an almost ever present, I don't understand why so many fans think he will be dropped or sold soon. I would be more inclined to agree with SFC1971, Morgan has looked half the player he was last season, he does not seem that up for it and may be looking for a move.

 

The first few games Morgan was more up for it than last season, but he just seems to have faded. Lambert has not yet got going. But sell them? You must be having a laugh surely. Or is this a whooosh moment. Chaplow, what he lacks in skill he makes up for in enthusiasm. He's like my collie, run him all day and he'll keep wanting to run some more. He chases down more lost balls and wins back more play than most of the rest of the team put together. You cant have 11 silky smooth prima-donna's in a team, look at Man City, (poor example but you know what I mean) you also need your work horse who will give you 100% every time.

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The first few games Morgan was more up for it than last season, but he just seems to have faded. Lambert has not yet got going. But sell them? You must be having a laugh surely. Or is this a whooosh moment. Chaplow, what he lacks in skill he makes up for in enthusiasm. He's like my collie, run him all day and he'll keep wanting to run some more. He chases down more lost balls and wins back more play than most of the rest of the team put together. You cant have 11 silky smooth prima-donna's in a team, look at Man City, (poor example but you know what I mean) you also need your work horse who will give you 100% every time.

 

I wasn't saying we should sell Lambert or Morgan, I am just shocked at how many people don't rate Hammond. I don't think we should sell any of our first choice 14/15 players. Chaplow has been a breath of fresh air since he has come in and since then I believe that the best partnership has been Chaplow and Hammond. I was just stating that Morgan has not performed yet this season, but thats just my opinion.

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To all those scoffing at the prospect of off-loading Lambert and Schneiderlin, ask yourself honestly - WHY ?

 

From what I can tell, Chaplow makes a better contribution (if we can make a deal for him), and something really has gone wrong with Lambert. Maybe it is in player and clubs best interest if there were a parting of the ways for decent money, allowing a fresh player with similar impact to come in.

 

Why? For me because it's a squad game and Schneiderlin and Lambert have both done more than enough this season and last to warrant their place in the Saints squad. They may not be on top form now but I am sure that they will be able to contribute something to the rest of the season, even if it's not as significant as it was last season. Agreed that Chaplow looks more effective at the moment but it's up to the management to get MS to respond to the competition for places and raise his game. All the talk about Lambert is speculation as far as I can see. It seems to me that it's a combination of his fitness, him missing the link with Lallana in the early games, and defences paying him a bit more attention. He's got to find a way round this if he is going to have a decent season and play a part next year becasue at the moment he's not going to offer us enough for a challenge in the Championship.

 

If we are looking to free up spaces in the squad so that Adkins can bring in some new faces I would put Holmes and Wotton ahead of MS and RL.

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guly, but we cant.

why cant he get a game?

i still think weve signed him.

if na doesnt play him he cant fancy him,if he doesnt fancy him hes gotta go back.

if he doesnt go back,then we must have signed him.

he is on big big dough for us,top earner at club

we will struggle to get rid of the rest as wed have to pay them up,as nobody wants them, except for wotts.

money being at a premium

 

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Maybe we have got rid of Pulis already - Buggered if I can find him on the team list.

 

Not sure we really need to unload anyone to bring in fresh faces. Granted no point carrying deadwood - but id like to think ( and hope ) we are in a financial situation where we didnt need to sell to bring anyone in.

 

Squad list on the official site - http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10280,00.html

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guly, but we cant.

why cant he get a game?

i still think weve signed him.

if na doesnt play him he cant fancy him,if he doesnt fancy him hes gotta go back.

if he doesnt go back,then we must have signed him.

he is on big big dough for us,top earner at club

we will struggle to get rid of the rest as wed have to pay them up,as nobody wants them, except for wotts.

money being at a premium

 

Guly is on loan until January.

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Current Squad

1 Kelvin Davis (G)

2 Frazer Richardson (D)

3 Dan Harding (D)

4 Morgan Schneiderlin (M)

5 Ryan Dickson (M)

6 Jose Fonte (D)

7 Rickie Lambert (F)

9 Lee Barnard (F)

10 Jason Puncheon (M)

11 Guilherme Do Prado (F)

12 Danny Butterfield (D)

14 Dean Hammond (M)

15 Radhi Jaidi (D)

17 Aaron Martin (D)

19 Danny Seaborne (D)

20 Adam Lallana (F)

21 Lee Holmes (M)

22 David Connolly (F)

23 Tommy Forecast (G)

24 Bartosz Bialkowski (G)

26 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (M)

27 Oscar Gobern (M)

28 Callum McNish (M)

29 Ryan Doble (M)

37 Jack Saville (D)

40 Tony Garrod (F)

Harlee Dean

 

Loaned players

Anthony Pulis (M) to Stockport

Joseph Mills (D) to Doncaster

Paul Wotton (D) to Oxford

 

I don't think we'll miss Pulis, I couldn't care less if Forecast leaves either, and we might get a couple of quid for Wotton if he goes in January rather than when his contract expires. Provided we sign Chaplow we wouldn't even lose out on cover for the Jan-July period.

 

Everyone else has a role or potential, and I'm very hopeful we don't end up having to flog Lallana due to impending contract expiry as well.

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I'm not going to give any players names. But what will happen, I am sure, is that NA will try to offload players who are not buying-in to his methods. That could be anyone, from Pulis to Davis, whether they are fans favourites or not, but only NA will make the decision. He will also try to bring in some of his own players to put his mark on the squad, and get the team playing his way. I cannot believe that NA will not have any funds in January, I am sure he just would not have joined us if he had been told no funds available for the jan Transfer window.

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I'm not going to give any players names. But what will happen, I am sure, is that NA will try to offload players who are not buying-in to his methods. That could be anyone, from Pulis to Davis, whether they are fans favourites or not, but only NA will make the decision. He will also try to bring in some of his own players to put his mark on the squad, and get the team playing his way. I cannot believe that NA will not have any funds in January, I am sure he just would not have joined us if he had been told no funds available for the jan Transfer window.

 

he might have looked at the squad and thought he wouldn't need to spend anything. Hasn't quite worked out that way.

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Hammond is our captian and is an almost ever present, I don't understand why so many fans think he will be dropped or sold soon. I would be more inclined to agree with SFC1971, Morgan has looked half the player he was last season, he does not seem that up for it and may be looking for a move.

 

Hammond is a joke of a captain, doesn't lead by word or by deed. He has been almost ever present, and almost always average or worse.

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:D

 

Good thing you aren't the manger then.

 

Fed up with Spidermans constant sideways/backward passing and shooting from 25yds plus when he obviously can`t do it. Brought in as a attacking mid 1 goal 2yrs Enough said on him.

 

Lambert does not want to be here is lazy and reportedly our top earner.

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Fed up with Spidermans constant sideways/backward passing and shooting from 25yds plus when he obviously can`t do it. Brought in as a attacking mid 1 goal 2yrs Enough said on him.

 

Lambert does not want to be here is lazy and reportedly our top earner.

 

I really don't know where you get the idea that he was brought in as an attacking midfielder from. MS is and always has been a defensive midfielder a 6 if you like.He has the technical ability to get forward when asked but it's not his primary role. Lallana, Puncheon,Antonio on the other hand are all attacking midfielders with skill and guile, AOC well not so much yet but he has pace.

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MS a defensive mid fielder who is not capable of heading , tackling correctly or marking..

Has gone downhill and has to show a lot more effort , desire and determination..

Very surprised if he plays .... keeps the bench warm on saturday...pity he has no reserve side to learn his trade..

 

Fancy dan who should be playing in the sunshine elsewhere..

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MS a defensive mid fielder who is not capable of heading , tackling correctly or marking..

Has gone downhill and has to show a lot more effort , desire and determination..

Very surprised if he plays .... keeps the bench warm on saturday...pity he has no reserve side to learn his trade..

 

Fancy dan who should be playing in the sunshine elsewhere..

 

What a load of ******** that is. He is the best central midfielder we have. He should play just in front of the back 4. He does not just pass sideways. The best passes we see from Saints nearly always orginate from him. NA was a muppet to play him as the front of the 3 on Saturday. Did you see Chaplow & Hammond on Saturday? Hammond was terrible. Did you see his tackle for the corner that lead to the 3rd goal? Chaplow missed the goal 1 on 1 & often won the ball really well only to pass between 2 players.

I would drop Hammond on Saturday.

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What a load of ******** that is. He is the best central midfielder we have. He should play just in front of the back 4. He does not just pass sideways. The best passes we see from Saints nearly always orginate from him. NA was a muppet to play him as the front of the 3 on Saturday. Did you see Chaplow & Hammond on Saturday? Hammond was terrible. Did you see his tackle for the corner that lead to the 3rd goal? Chaplow missed the goal 1 on 1 & often won the ball really well only to pass between 2 players.

I would drop Hammond on Saturday.

 

Have just checked my facts and taken a second opinion.......What I said about Spiderman is very accurate..

 

Not a defensive midfielder......Tackles..few and far between and invariably illegal when he happens to connect.

Heading the ball is alien within his armoury.

Defence splitting passes/forward passes...few and far between.

 

Motivation/effort/tenacity...lost out there in France on his last Under/21 visit..if not before.

 

I will never be a coach /expert like you..but would rather have Chappers and Hammond in this side before Spiderman any day.

 

Opinions who would have them...

 

I will leave it to our Nigel ..he knows what he is doing.......

 

For your benefit.....Spiderman gets a big kick up the arse...plays again in the two home games....turns his game around

and we get a lot more from him and goals from Rikke would help...

 

I will be the first to say corky you are the man...until then let us leave our handbags on the side of the training ground..

 

Two wins to get us going..

 

Come on you Saints.

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What a load of ******** that is. He is the best central midfielder we have. He should play just in front of the back 4. He does not just pass sideways. The best passes we see from Saints nearly always orginate from him. NA was a muppet to play him as the front of the 3 on Saturday. Did you see Chaplow & Hammond on Saturday? Hammond was terrible. Did you see his tackle for the corner that lead to the 3rd goal? Chaplow missed the goal 1 on 1 & often won the ball really well only to pass between 2 players.

I would drop Hammond on Saturday.

 

Don't take what OSM says to heart, he hasn't got a clue about modern football ,Cliff Huxford is his hero:lol:

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Windows if you must know I have got a six a side winners medal for under 7s at the sports centre..

 

PS I wrote to both dubai phil and old nickh about getting Spiderman into one of The saints web forum teams..

 

because neither replied ..I take it they didn't rate him either.

 

PS As I said I hope he proves me wrong ..if selected for the the next two home games..for starters..

 

I would buy you pints at home games for the rest of the season......maybe not...........I will just send you a picture of me at the sports centre with my medal aged 6 years.....I was a class act and played very similar game to Spiderman..

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1 Kelvin Davis (G)

2 Frazer Richardson (D)

3 Dan Harding (D)

4 Morgan Schneiderlin (M)

5 Ryan Dickson (M)

6 Jose Fonte (D)

7 Rickie Lambert (F)

9 Lee Barnard (F)

10 Jason Puncheon (M)

11 Guilherme Do Prado (F)

12 Danny Butterfield (D)

14 Dean Hammond (M)

15 Radhi Jaidi (D)

17 Aaron Martin (D)

19 Danny Seaborne (D)

20 Adam Lallana (F)

21 Lee Holmes (M)

22 David Connolly (F)

23 Tommy Forecast (G)

24 Bartosz Bialkowski (G)

26 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (M)

27 Oscar Gobern (M)

28 Callum McNish (M)

29 Ryan Doble (M)

37 Jack Saville (D)

40 Tony Garrod (F)

Harlee Dean

Paul Wotton

Joseph Mills

Anthony Pulis

 

Gobern hasn't made the impact required for a long-term future at the club and hasn't impressed on loan at lower L1 teams either, which doesn't suggest that he'd be any better than what we have. Connolly and Holmes both still have quality, but have really struggled with injuries and we need fit players who aren't injured for 3 weeks in every month. Wotton's role in the team is important, but Adkins doesn't favour him given his very limited first-team action and loan spell, so we'll see him off and bring in a new 'anchor' type midfielder. Mills is a good player, but finds himself 3rd choice behind Harding and Dickson, so he needs to move on for the sake of his career. Forecast and Pulis for obvious reasons, as they're both sh!t. Puncheon has been dropped from the squad and is rumoured to be in talks with Millwall, so we'll probably see him go as well.

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Jimmy Melia on his day a craftsman and passing defence splitting passes..link up play was top class..

More often than not I would have off loaded him in January when the pitches got damp...

Thats when the likes of Huxford, Gabriel and O'Neil would be in my side....

 

The three musketeers always had the stock answer.. for the referee, when warned about kicking an opponent

into touch.."Don't worry ref he won't be coming back on..problem solved."

 

Played with Cliff Huxford at Basingstoke 75/76 season...Still going great then at the age of 96.

 

Met Cliff at Yeovil last season....Still very fit...Good man and a nice bloke.

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