Goalie66 Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Rumour has it that Adkins asked for more energy at half time from Lambert and got a load of verbal resulting in the half-time substitution. Anyone else heard the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Rumour has it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Rumour has it that Adkins asked for more energy at half time from Lambert and got a load of verbal resulting in the half-time substitution. Anyone else heard the same? nah that sounds like Nicolas Anelka you're talking about,must be signing for us then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 You are presumably referring to the Southampton Fansonline report - or has this come from another source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 You've got to love them stewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 http://www.fansonline.net/southampton/article.php?id=914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 28 November, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Correct. Notwithstanding what may or may not have happened Lambert is not really suited to the current style of play. We need someone who has a turn of pace over three yards. Lambert really has slowed in that respect and more worrylingly is not winning headers like last year. I fully expect him to be sold in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Correct. Notwithstanding what may or may not have happened Lambert is not really suited to the current style of play. We need someone who has a turn of pace over three yards. Lambert really has slowed in that respect and more worrylingly is not winning headers like last year. I fully expect him to be sold in January. why sold.. why is it that any player who is not getting the rub of the green is expected to be sold.. at the mo...harding, lambert, morgan and puncheon are going in jan dont be silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Take any of these rumours with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Correct. Notwithstanding what may or may not have happened Lambert is not really suited to the current style of play. We need someone who has a turn of pace over three yards. Lambert really has slowed in that respect and more worrylingly is not winning headers like last year. I fully expect him to be sold in January. Maybe not in January but I fully agree with your comments. Adkins at other clubs has clearly favoured a strikeforce with mobility and pace which unfortunately our Rickie doesnt have either in abundance. He will surely be replaced once a replacement has been found but maybe at the end of the season and I suspect RL knows it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 what we need here is leftback to put us straight...oh right he's been banned for over use of factual information.Back to the usual standards then,rumours and speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 So far this season Guly's looked better than Lambert in the air, and he's better on the ground anyway. Plus it wouldn't do us any harm to give Barnard his due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 28 November, 2010 Author Share Posted 28 November, 2010 why sold.. why is it that any player who is not getting the rub of the green is expected to be sold.. at the mo...harding, lambert, morgan and puncheon are going in jan dont be silly Adkins will want get fired if he does not get promotion and lambert has not played well this season. In any event Lambert is, in my ,opinion, NOT suited to a pass and move game that Adkins wants that is why I believe he will move on. All players suffer lack of form but equally Managers will stick with them if form part of the overall plan. Puncheon was put out on loan because we have equal or better players. In Lambert there is no ready replacement but equally if we buy another striker in Jan I cannot see Lambert wanting to be on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Can't see Rickie being sold on unless a replacement is firmed up first. He has a definite role in the side for his heading ability and setting up chances for others. Apart from that, his dead ball skills and virtual guarantee to score from penalties all make him v hard to replace and worthy of a playing in the Championship. If NA did sub him as a disciplinary sanction it depends on what happens next. NA could decide he acted in the heat of the moment and apologise, or Rickie might accept the criticism, or they might just kiss and make up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Adkins will want get fired if he does not get promotion and lambert has not played well this season. In any event Lambert is, in my ,opinion, NOT suited to a pass and move game that Adkins wants that is why I believe he will move on. All players suffer lack of form but equally Managers will stick with them if form part of the overall plan. Puncheon was put out on loan because we have equal or better players. In Lambert there is no ready replacement but equally if we buy another striker in Jan I cannot see Lambert wanting to be on the bench. I very much doubt if he'll want to get fired though. He probably will get fired if he doesn't get promotion anyway whether he wants it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Apart from that, his dead ball skills and virtual guarantee to score from penalties all make him v hard to replace His dead balls havent gothim much this season, also Barnard is good at pens as he proved at Southend but he just doesnt get a look in here plus im sure we have some other players that could score from the spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 what we need here is leftback to put us straight...oh right he's been banned for over use of factual information.Back to the usual standards then,rumours and speculation. Has he really been banned? If so why? And is it not what my forefathers died for - freedom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 So far this season Guly's looked better than Lambert in the air, and he's better on the ground anyway. Plus it wouldn't do us any harm to give Barnard his due. Really Guly won very little in the air yesterday Guly (and Lambert this season) is **** poor the only thing he has over Lambert is pace (but them my 60 year old mum could out run Lambert). At least Gobern was on hand to show Lambert and Guly how to head a ball properly yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Last year we built a team around Lambert some didn't like the style but in the main it was effective. New manager things change Lamberts role seems to have changed, for a striker Lambert seems to spend a lot of time all over the pitch but very rarely up front where he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Has he really been banned? If so why? And is it not what my forefathers died for - freedom? yes he has, we don't know why but we can guess but there again we go back into the realm of rumour and speculation. Machiavelli got that one wrong when he speaks of "occasionally veiling the truth" he says excuses should be at hand if the truth should ever out. By the modern method it's better to say nothing and let people make up their own reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 We need a big lump like Rickie in this league. His knock downs and passing are excellent and he will come good this year. We do not want to waste money on any midgets as we have enough of them already at the club. I cannot think of anybody else, of Rickie's make up and ability, that we could get to this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Adkins will want get fired if he does not get promotion and lambert has not played well this season. In any event Lambert is, in my ,opinion, NOT suited to a pass and move game that Adkins wants that is why I believe he will move on. All players suffer lack of form but equally Managers will stick with them if form part of the overall plan. Puncheon was put out on loan because we have equal or better players. In Lambert there is no ready replacement but equally if we buy another striker in Jan I cannot see Lambert wanting to be on the bench. There's been nothing wrong with Ricky's passing, his support play has been the only thing keeping him in the side. Adkins has gone out of his way to favour Ricky, but something occurred yesterday to change all of that. There seems to be a silence all round that no one is talking about and I don't believe it's to do with any spat between Ricky and Adkins. There may have been words exchanged but I really doubt that is the root cause. I never went yesterday and can only go on others opinion, but many rate this performance the worst Ricky has been all season. I am wondering whether the cold weather had an impact on Rick's condition and ability to perform? Either way, this seasons Ricky will not be that great a loss and more than likely, improve the team by being dropped away from home. Barnard may be as good a penalty taker but can hardly be better, though Ricky does draw defenders for the other forwards. Adkins has been very supportive in many ways with Ricky and I do feel there is mutual respect between the two of them. Yesterday may have showed that there are limits and we may have got to the point where things are allowed to go no further as they are. But this was a nothing game in the grand scheme, we shall have to wait to find the true position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Last year we built a team around Lambert some didn't like the style but in the main it was effective. New manager things change Lamberts role seems to have changed, for a striker Lambert seems to spend a lot of time all over the pitch but very rarely up front where he should be. This. Against Peterborough, when the play was in the final third, Rickie was on the halfway line helping out. For a player that, as a striker should thrive on tap ins, his positioning is not great. He shouldn't be sold though, he'll come good, but we do need a quality league one striker in addition in January, in a similar mold to Lambert. (Jordan Rhodes pretty please!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 I was there yesterday and I thought he was doing ok, but I heard some comments from behind me saying that 'none of his passes had found any of our own players, which was patently untrue, but sometimes people see thing according to their own prejudiced preconceptions. His ball control was certainly betters than Guly's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 I was there yesterday and I thought he was doing ok, but I heard some comments from behind me saying that 'none of his passes had found any of our own players, which was patently untrue, but sometimes people see thing according to their own prejudiced preconceptions. His ball control was certainly betters than Guly's. yep. Its amazing how Lambert has gone from hero to zero at SMS is less than a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 I was there yesterday and I thought he was doing ok, but I heard some comments from behind me saying that 'none of his passes had found any of our own players, which was patently untrue, but sometimes people see thing according to their own prejudiced preconceptions. His ball control was certainly betters than Guly's. Spot on mate...some people have to have an agenda or don`t watch the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 We are not exactly struggling with our current squad so why knock him. He is and always has been just a cog in the machine. !0 matches unbeaten at home and people want more! wtf! imho he can generally be relied upon to take up the attentions of at least 2 opposing defenders, he is a constant distraction to not just some of ourt fans but more importantly the opposition and how they set up to play us. Long live the king, well until january at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Go on Adkins if true though, he is the boss and if sold I would not be to bothered, fav striker is barny all the way. Lambert has a great strike on him though esp if a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Let's not rewrite history whilst it's still the present, eh? Apart from scoring goals, Lambert has still performed to the same standard as last year - that is, he is still winning 99% of his headers, playing great balls to team mates and generally looking very sharp. Let's not forget that he is also still our top scorer, whether they're mostly from penalties or not. To sell him would be a massive, massive mistake. He scored 37 goals last season without sprinting down the byline every game, so why does Adkins need to change the way he plays now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Let's not rewrite history whilst it's still the present, eh? Apart from scoring goals, Lambert has still performed to the same standard as last year - that is, he is still winning 99% of his headers, playing great balls to team mates and generally looking very sharp. Let's not forget that he is also still our top scorer, whether they're mostly from penalties or not. To sell him would be a massive, massive mistake. He scored 37 goals last season without sprinting down the byline every game, so why does Adkins need to change the way he plays now? This! The difference between last year's total & this is inches, paint thicknesses & defenders & keepers throwing themselves in the way. He has the touch, the lay offs, the abilities to fully deserve his place & class will out in the end. He'll score more than 20 this year. Keep the faith...there's not a club in this division that wouldn't drool at the thought of having him in their side...let's just count our blessings he's not doing it for someone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 NA on the solent interview said lambert had picked up an injury. However, he did go into detail of Holmes's which he said looked quite bad. He also said Richardson picked up a slight groin strain. He did not go into any detail about Lambert, all he said he had picked up an injury...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Apart from scoring goals, Lambert has still performed to the same standard as last year - that is, he is still winning 99% of his headers, playing great balls to team mates and generally looking very sharp. That simply isn't true. He's not winning 99% of his headers is he? and he is not looking very sharp. He's playing some good balls when he gets involved but his involvement is minimal because Adkins style is not suited to Lambert at all. It's way too quick for an under confident and under performing Rickie Lambert. A mate of mine came along to his first game this season (A neutral) last week and he mentioned without any prompting how poor Lambert was because the football we play now is not at all suited to a striker who likes to bully defenders. Clearly Lambert is the one person who I would want the ball to drop too in the box but the rest of his game is very poor at the moment and as much as he is a great goal scorer, selling him wouldn't be that bad an idea because he simply doesn't fit. Getting a striker who does fit may be a better idea. He's getting in the team on reputation, which in itself is asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Interesting watching Grant Holt on the telly at the moment looks very comfortable at championship level. Could Lambert step up a level? last season I thought so this season I'm not to sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Apart from scoring goals, Lambert has still performed to the same standard as last year - that is, he is still winning 99% of his headers, playing great balls to team mates and generally looking very sharp. Nah, that's just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 I don't think Rickie appears in a single one of the game photos on the OS. Probably just a coincidence though.In fact Dickson appears to be playing centre forward if you take just what appears on those images into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 He did well last season because the team played to his strengths,this season there is less of the hoofball going on so lambert seems a little lost....couple that with his seemingly lack of fitness/interest/motivation and you end up with a player similar to Kevin Davies towards the end of his time with saints. He will probably move on in the near future and become an even better player,I certainly think his time at saints is coming to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Lambert is good when he is on his game ( been a while ) but he is not championship quality on current form despite what some think on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Rumour has it that Adkins asked for more energy at half time from Lambert and got a load of verbal resulting in the half-time substitution. Anyone else heard the same? But at the end of the day why would Rickie do that?? A highly improbable rumour really,unless of course Jase has been on the phone saying how good life is in the NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Hip injury according to Adkins as the reason he was substituted...I know - it's easy to mishear that as 'we had a blazing row' -simple mistake to make:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Hip injury according to Adkins as the reason he was substituted...I know - it's easy to mishear that as 'we had a blazing row' -simple mistake to make:) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Hip injury according to Adkins as the reason he was substituted...I know - it's easy to mishear that as 'we had a blazing row' -simple mistake to make:) Because obviously he'd just come out and say that wouldn't he? Goon. If you watch the interview he hesitates before he says hip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxosponge Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 NA on the solent interview said lambert had picked up an injury......... He did not go into any detail about Lambert, all he said he had picked up an injury...... Methinks an injury to pride may be involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Let's not rewrite history whilst it's still the present, eh? Apart from scoring goals, Lambert has still performed to the same standard as last year - that is, he is still winning 99% of his headers, playing great balls to team mates and generally looking very sharp. Let's not forget that he is also still our top scorer, whether they're mostly from penalties or not. To sell him would be a massive, massive mistake. He scored 37 goals last season without sprinting down the byline every game, so why does Adkins need to change the way he plays now? I won't go into too much detail because it has been covered. Just to say though that in my opinion you could not be more wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 yep. Its amazing how Lambert has gone from hero to zero at SMS is less than a season It shows how fickle the fan base is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 He did well last season because the team played to his strengths,this season there is less of the hoofball going on so lambert seems a little lost....couple that with his seemingly lack of fitness/interest/motivation and you end up with a player similar to Kevin Davies towards the end of his time with saints. He will probably move on in the near future and become an even better player,I certainly think his time at saints is coming to an end. There were plenty of times last season playing hoofball that Ricky never got a look in, so I don't see that as a reason. Defenders are giving him less space and he is having to track back to find that space, but that's another issue. Our season turned around after Pompey in the cup, with two on form wingers in Puncheon and Lallana pulling defences completely out of shape with their energy and skill, giving Ricky more space when he knew what to do with. Get two games in a week and we could no longer keep those energy levels up and the freedom it gave, Ricky was mainly neutered again. We won't be selling Ricky, you are hardly going to get buyers in his current state and when he does come good, we will want to keep him. There is something physical affecting Ricky's performances and until he gets through that, I don't expect any change. What I cannot understand is the logic in playing him in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 It shows how fickle the fan base is. Not really. It shows that his poor form is starting to annoy people. There's nothing fickle in commentating that someone is good when they're good and bad when they're bad. I don't think anyone's saying he was always rubbish or that he always will be. I don't think he's rubbish at all but his wastefulness in front of goal is costing us points at the moment and we need to do something about it if we're going to finish in the top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 It shows how fickle the fan base is. Not at all. If anything it shows how supportive people have been that it has taken until almost December for people to start questioning his continued presence in the starting lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 Whether or not Lambert stays and starts performing again or goes, we still need to sign a striker in January IMO. Or we're left with just Barnard on form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 We actually need two strikers - Fryatt would be a good start as we only have an out-of-form Lambert and whilst Barnard is playing well, he may need an op in the near future which only leaves us with sicknote Connolly. We also need at least one wide player as well with some pace. I like Holmes but his fitness record doesn't encourage. Ins for first week of Jan: Chaplow, Ryan Harley of Exeter, Matt Fryatt of Leicester, Le Fondre (will cost us but will be worth a lot more in the future) and Weston from Brentford Outs: Puncheon for about 300k to Millwall if they want to buy, Morgan to Ligue 1 in France, Wotton to Oxford on a free. Get a tasty home draw in the cup and it might cover some of the costs of bringing the new faces in. If we don't bring 2 new strikers, only the most optimistic Saints fans would admit we had any chance of finishing top 2 and we could even miss the play offs if Barnard is out for any length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 28 November, 2010 Share Posted 28 November, 2010 One thing that suprised me yesterday was on two occassions Lambert had an opportunity to go for goal but headed across a crowded penalty area. Almost as if he had a bet on himself not to score. It is either a confidence thing or he is not bothered. I am getting concerned it is the latter. Not at all suprised to see him come off at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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