buctootim Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Koeman is more than half a team short of a starting eleven He's not. Panic over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Koeman is more than half a team short of a starting eleven No he's not. hth. Better way of saying that would have been, that he's players short of a competitive starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Koeman is more than half a team short of a starting eleven Better way of saying that would have been, that he's players short of a competitive starting 11. Not even that, we can put out a mid table starting 11 now. Four or five short of decent squad depth more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 He's just posted this, not a playervin sight Ready for #Training! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 At this time he has already lost 4 players of which 3 he has admitted that he knew he would lose. He has no reason to lie to us so we have to take this as fact. Chambers out the door soon and doubts remain over Schneiderlin, Rodriguez, Osvaldo, Fonte and Cork. That is potentially 10 players who all made a decent contribution last season. I am pretty sure he didn't sign up for that. you can't really mean to include Osvaldo in that group - do you? OK ....very nice goal v. Man City, but a touchline ban after the Newcastle fracas... .and then the bust-up with Fonte....what sort of contribution is that ? the sooner we get him off the books the better, and cut our losses. How much a week is he getting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 http://twitter.com/Koeman1963/status/493689458458644480/photo/1 I think he has a sense of humour!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 http://twitter.com/Koeman1963/status/493689458458644480/photo/1 I think he has a sense of humour!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Probably unintentional, but damn comedy genius by Koeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Burnley have the team that got promoted and have brought in an extra 7. They will be a match for anyone in the bottom half of the table. Sunderland have added 4 and released their dross (there's a lot of it). They proved tough enough for us last season. Koeman is more than half a team short of a starting eleven and only has 20 days before his season starts. Jeeez FFS! No panic. I 'd feel a bit more concerned if it were only 20 hours before seasons start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Can only assume Koeman is cool with this all as les reed stated, quite clearly that no player comes in or out without the managers say so.!!!! Les Reed or to give him his full title Mr Reed said also he was great buddies with Mr Pocchettino, that they had a great understanding and were very much together on the way forward, so Mr Reed's opinions must be judged by that. For my twopenniesworth, Koeman must be well Effed off with the disintegration of our club and sufficiently distracted by all the shenanigans as to be totally distracted from the business of running the first team properly. The realisation that he has been handed a poison chalice must have hit him hard by now. It will not be surprising if he leaves very soon. I would in his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 No panic. I 'd feel a bit more concerned if it were only 20 hours before seasons start. It soon will be, it's only 21 days now to ko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Contrary to many posts on here I would have thought Koeman will be delighted with the current situation and the opportunity to bring in his own players. The fact he seems to be OK with it - based on what he has said so far - leads me to believe he feels that we need better players to improve on last seasons position. All very exciting if that is the case. I accept that things look bad right now and play into the hands of the pessimists but we are only half way through the turnaround. It would be good though if the club could give us some reassurance that this is the plan as this would stop a lot of the negative feeling that is dominant at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Contrary to many posts on here I would have thought Koeman will be delighted with the current situation and the opportunity to bring in his own players. The fact he seems to be OK with it - based on what he has said so far - leads me to believe he feels that we need better players to improve on last seasons position. All very exciting if that is the case. I accept that things look bad right now and play into the hands of the pessimists but we are only half way through the turnaround. It would be good though if the club could give us some reassurance that this is the plan as this would stop a lot of the negative feeling that is dominant at the moment. why can't everyone see this? It's surely a manager's dream. Money in the bank and a chance to buy whoever you want. Ronald Koeman has a chance to put OUR money where his faith is ..and buy in a whole team... if he needs to. Every manager who takes over a club has to adapt to fit in the " stars" in the club -even if they are difficult to handle. Now for those who don't want to stay ..let's say goodbye NOW. Anymore for the Skylark? Yes they've been good, but that was " last years team" , and they couldn't cut it (and make it to a Euro place)...surely a manager of RK's stature can feel confident in knowing he can do it " his way ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwanamakubwa Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I seem to recall one of the feyenoord fans saying that Koemans stance is always to sell a player if he doesn't wanna be here. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I seem to recall one of the feyenoord fans saying that Koemans stance is always to sell a player if he doesn't wanna be here. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Was probably a decent attitude when you are one of the biggest clubs in the country. Not so much at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Contrary to many posts on here I would have thought Koeman will be delighted with the current situation and the opportunity to bring in his own players. The fact he seems to be OK with it - based on what he has said so far - leads me to believe he feels that we need better players to improve on last seasons position. All very exciting if that is the case. I accept that things look bad right now and play into the hands of the pessimists but we are only half way through the turnaround. It would be good though if the club could give us some reassurance that this is the plan as this would stop a lot of the negative feeling that is dominant at the moment. Assuming we start signing players. Right now I wouldn't think we look an attractive option to a lot of half-decent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Assuming we start signing players. Right now I wouldn't think we look an attractive option to a lot of half-decent players. Guaranteed first XI start the way it's going, what's not attractive about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Guaranteed first XI start the way it's going, what's not attractive about that? Wasn't that attractive to Lallana, Lovren, Shaw, Lambert was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Wasn't that attractive to Lallana' date=' Lovren, Shaw, Lambert was it?[/quote'] Compared to Champions League football for some of the biggest clubs in the world, it never will unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 why can't everyone see this? It's surely a manager's dream. Money in the bank and a chance to buy whoever you want. Ronald Koeman has a chance to put OUR money where his faith is ..and buy in a whole team... if he needs to. Every manager who takes over a club has to adapt to fit in the " stars" in the club -even if they are difficult to handle. Now for those who don't want to stay ..let's say goodbye NOW. Anymore for the Skylark? Yes they've been good, but that was " last years team" , and they couldn't cut it (and make it to a Euro place)...surely a manager of RK's stature can feel confident in knowing he can do it " his way ". Right, "last years team" couldn't make it to a euro place. So we sell last years team and buy this years team. And this is a managers dream. I think I'm folowing you now. Makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Koeman go before the season starts. According to a post on another thread he has already met the board to express his concern. The board have failed to deliver on several assurances made to him when he took the job. I could see Sammy Lee taking the reigns if Koeman goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Koeman go before the season starts. According to a post on another thread he has already met the board to express his concern. The board have failed to deliver on several assurances made to him when he took the job. I could see Sammy Lee taking the reigns if Koeman goes. Sadly, I'm inclined to agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Contrary to many posts on here I would have thought Koeman will be delighted with the current situation and the opportunity to bring in his own players. The fact he seems to be OK with it - based on what he has said so far - leads me to believe he feels that we need better players to improve on last seasons position. All very exciting if that is the case. I accept that things look bad right now and play into the hands of the pessimists but we are only half way through the turnaround. It would be good though if the club could give us some reassurance that this is the plan as this would stop a lot of the negative feeling that is dominant at the moment. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Has just posted a tweet saying there are some nice pictures (of players) in his office! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Has just posted a tweet saying there are some nice pictures (of players) in his office! Aye! He obviously likes it too much to leave.... Ronald Koeman @Koeman1963 There are some nice pictures in my office at the training ground in #SouthamptonFC http://pic.twitter.com/GU07spZ1QG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Has just posted a tweet saying there are some nice pictures (of players) in his office! It's players of his teams and the dutch team he was part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Even if this Summer all works out and Koeman brings in an all new team, what is then to stop them all leaving when he goes to a "big" club in 1-2 years time? Could be the start of a vicious and depressing cycle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 It's players of his teams and the dutch team he was part of. Cool as a cucumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 It's players of his teams and the dutch team he was part of. Ah! Sorry. My eyes aren't what they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsbignose Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Can Van Basten, Gullit or De Boer still do a job? Guaranteed starters in our XI at the moment! You have to have some level of self-belief if you back yourself to build a team/squad that can play and be competitive at the EPL level, virtually from scratch in less than three weeks. He must have bigger balls than Van Gaal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 ...was thinking Ron's tweets.. were hints at player(s) coming in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 His tweet of a picture of an empty training ground suggests that he's pretty fed up with the situation. http://twitter.com/Koeman1963/status/493689458458644480/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 28 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 28 July, 2014 If Koeman knew about all these sales then surely he knew it'd be an uphill task to get a decent team together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 It's impossible to know what's going on. However, the board surely would not dare not let RK go after all this bad news. This hopefully puts him in a strong position to say "You buy X,Y & Z, and don't mess around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 His tweet of a picture of an empty training ground suggests that he's pretty fed up with the situation. http://twitter.com/Koeman1963/status/493689458458644480/photo/1 He did the same on 30 June and 2 July. Clearly the Dutch art of prophesying has not been lost on Mr. Koeman. ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 It's impossible to know what's going on. However, the board surely would not dare not let RK go after all this bad news. This hopefully puts him in a strong position to say "You buy X,Y & Z, and don't mess around" I wouldn't have enough faith in the Board to ask them to buy a pound of apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The picture to the left of the television is next seasons team photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Abroad Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 The picture to the left of the television is next seasons team photo What's with the Ikea furniture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 What's with the Ikea furniture? And for it costing so damn much, it's probably the most dull and plain training ground interior I've ever seen in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 His tweet of a picture of an empty training ground suggests that he's pretty fed up with the situation. http://twitter.com/Koeman1963/status/493689458458644480/photo/1 That worryingly suggests it was not his decision to sell the players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 That worryingly suggests it was not his decision to sell the players we have. As much as people are hoping it was a dig, it wasn't. It was a little bit of a naive tweet by Koeman, who genuinely does post pre-training pictures on a daily basis. It just fits for it to be picked up by the media as it has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Part of me wonders of Koeman is part of the problem here. He's clearly confident he can build a team from scratch on about 3 weeks. That might be possible at a big club in the Eredivisie, but I worry he's in for a shock with the PL which is utterly unforgiving. Would a lesser name manager be so blasé? (For the record this should not be read as 'Koeman out') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 We could have done with him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 What's with the Ikea furniture? Its minimalist like our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGC Saint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 why can't everyone see this? It's surely a manager's dream. Money in the bank and a chance to buy whoever you want. Ronald Koeman has a chance to put OUR money where his faith is ..and buy in a whole team... if he needs to. Every manager who takes over a club has to adapt to fit in the " stars" in the club -even if they are difficult to handle. Now for those who don't want to stay ..let's say goodbye NOW. Anymore for the Skylark? Yes they've been good, but that was " last years team" , and they couldn't cut it (and make it to a Euro place)...surely a manager of RK's stature can feel confident in knowing he can do it " his way ". Completely agree. We have a great manager and coaching staff in place and they WILL re-build a team in THEIR mould. I would like to see these signings sooner rather than later but not panicking or bedwetting like many on this forum at the moment. Jeez. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 why can't everyone see this? It's surely a manager's dream. Money in the bank and a chance to buy whoever you want. Ronald Koeman has a chance to put OUR money where his faith is ..and buy in a whole team... if he needs to. Every manager who takes over a club has to adapt to fit in the " stars" in the club -even if they are difficult to handle. Now for those who don't want to stay ..let's say goodbye NOW. Anymore for the Skylark? Yes they've been good, but that was " last years team" , and they couldn't cut it (and make it to a Euro place)...surely a manager of RK's stature can feel confident in knowing he can do it " his way ". That is the problem, the money is still in the Bank And it is still in KL's Bank, because (A) She doesn't want to spend any of it, pending selling SFC or (B) No player in his right mind wants to come to a Club with no first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 "@DanBrett90: Koeman's agent, Guido Albers, extinguished exit talk: "Don't worry, he was aware of this from the beginning. At Feyenoord was same problem."" Hopefully that prevents one corner of the bed being soaked in urine for the time being... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 "@DanBrett90: Koeman's agent, Guido Albers, extinguished exit talk: "Don't worry, he was aware of this from the beginning. At Feyenoord was same problem."" Hopefully that prevents one corner of the bed being soaked in urine for the time being... Wow. Amazing that he would come to the club in these circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 We could have done with him as a player. Sell a few more and both he and his brother may get chance to revive their playing careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Wow. Amazing that he would come to the club in these circumstances. If he was interested in being here long term, there wouldn't be many better things for an ambitious manager than ludicrous funds and a blank slate to build your own philosophy in the best league in the world with players you can choose specifically for it from the start... *clutches desperately for straws* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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