sadoldgit Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 (edited) Not entirely sure what the issue with that reaction is ? Dealing purely in facts we are in a worse position now then the end of last season and its what ? 2 weeks until the big k/off ? Whilst there is still time to bring some very able players in the upheaval in the squad will be difficult to overcome early in the season. Overall we will be ok however I personally think it will be a mid bottom finish. I cant see how this is an unreasonable viewpoint to have ? And one thats shared with the majority of the footballing world as a whole ? Liverpool have also had a change in their playing staff. Will they also struggle? Are you expecting a mid table finish? Edited 5 August, 2014 by sadoldgit spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 boo hoo - time to cwy! Your not very old are you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Surely you're not calling him a liar after him publicly saying the Club isn't for sale? Its hard to call anyone a liar in management without knowing the full facts and decision-making process the inner team are involved in. But, we have been told by him that every penny will be reinvested from sales... and I am being consistent here, I will judge him on whether he is a liar on 1 Sep. I think he sounds like Lowe did when we started to fail... and thats what worries me more than anything. I'd hate to go through Lowe's spin and the collapse of something good again. Koeman is all we have in my opinion. Everything we do must be to support him, I fear noone else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Liverpool have also had a change in their playing staff. Will they also struggle? Are you expecting a mid table finish? Im not expecting a top 4 no, but then they have only lost one first 11 player which makes your arguement ultimately redundant. Do you disagree with the other points or just that one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 There is a difference between players that are on the market and players that could go if the price is right. This is the same for every club. Every player has his price. He has said seveeal times that we are not selling MS or the club. If we do either then yes, by all means call him names. As things stand I dont see what your problem is. And that doesn't take into account a club captain who had no intention of being at Saints for the start of the 14-15 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 My summary: BBC is no better than Talkcrap Pleat is a prat RK is a recording Marcus married his daughter Nobody learned anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Didn't we agree we pulled down their pants over the fee's for Lovren and Lallana ? Yes I think we did. But unless we spend the treasure its irrelevant. Personally, Id rather we had all of our players, Cortese and we were buying 2 more this summer to try and kick on, because before this board took the reigns thats where we were heading this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 My summary: BBC is no better than Talkcrap Pleat is a prat RK is a recording Marcus married his daughter Nobody learned anything And I can't argue with that either! Brilliant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Yes I think we did. But unless we spend the treasure its irrelevant. Personally, Id rather we had all of our players, Cortese and buying 2 more this summer to try and kick on, because before this board took the reigns thats where we were heading this summer. Not really irrelevant if it allows us to secure our financial future and run the club solvently. Even if we had all our players and Cortese the FFP rules would have prevented us from making any big signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 No I mean the majority. When the evidence is there for us all to see how much money has been reinvested and how much better the team is, then 'we' will make an informed decision. But I can't abide spin doctor and managers who lose the customers faith - I remove them. Its basic leadership. Lol so now you are the voice of the majority are you? Feck me you should be rolled out for an opinion not Nick Illinsworth. I think you need to go and have a word with yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Clardige should be a member of this forum , he will fit in well with Saint Richmond Hmmmmmm you never see them both in the same room.....makes perfect sense now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Ralph Malph out, David Pleat in! This appointment would put Southampton on the map, particularly Derby Road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Not a single mention of our activities being to comply with FFP? Surely that's a mistake. I read it here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Great interview. Positive, articulate. Morgan and jay to stay, faith in youth, money to spend. Really reassuring stuff. Pleat is a tosser, why does he hate if do much? Anti saints agenda How much further up Krueger's a-hole do you think you will need to further climb? Is yours' and small fry's personal hatred for Cortese that intense, ANY alternative is greater than the second coming!! Pathetic turdish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 What's Cortese's plan for taking the club forward? Get the **** out because I'm being asked to be accountable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Ralph Malph out, David Pleat in! This appointment would put Southampton on the map, particularly Derby Road... He'd be out of luck if he went down there, they've all moved to Empress Road now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 is there a link where I can listen to it, if I missed it live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Ralph Malph out, David Pleat in! This appointment would put Southampton on the map, particularly Derby Road... Ralph is out, in fact I've just shared a Fosters and a chat with him. Nice guy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 is there a link where I can listen to it, if I missed it live? Come off it Ralf!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 is there a link where I can listen to it, if I missed it live? You'll have to telepathically link into MLG's brain. It's all stored in there word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Come off it Ralf!!!! .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 How much further up Krueger's a-hole do you think you will need to further climb? Is yours' and small fry's personal hatred for Cortese that intense, ANY alternative is greater than the second coming!! Pathetic turdish. Its his 'new' little joke. Give it another 6 months to run, endlessly repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Ralph is out, in fact I've just shared a Fosters and a chat with him. Nice guy!! Ralph's already buying fans a pint, whereas myself and a couple of thousand others are still waiting for the one Cortese owes us from Plymouth away. Go Ralph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalabad Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Why the NC love in. He wanted to run the club as if he owned it and spend KLs money. Don't forget his banning of photographers, the fall out with the Echo and charging to park your car if you spent to long in the club shop. He sold the dream of CL football to the players and a few fans but we never had the strength in depth in the squad to get anywhere near it. We started well last year, but after a couple of injuries we fell away. Dont you remember Chelsea at home, they bring 60m of mid fielders off the bench (William and Oscar) and destroy us. All we had were Guly and a few kids. We were always miles away from the CL . Let's give the new set up a chance. Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 I think we'll be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 At the time of player sales we were told all transfer income would be reinvested in the squad. Now I'm hearing Ralph still saying the same mantra but with the caveat that wages and signing on fees will come from this figure as well. I'm curious as to why this would be when we've saved the salaries from the defectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 I trust the board and Ralph There is a natural instinct to vent anger at someone , in this case for some it is the board RK said no players ere for sale but suddenly a couple of clubs triggered the sell figure clause built into their contracts . That's what I thought Ralph said . Now who put the contracts together . Was that not the previous chairman ? Mr Cortesse by any chance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Dynamic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 At the time of player sales we were told all transfer income would be reinvested in the squad. Now I'm hearing Ralph still saying the same mantra but with the caveat that wages and signing on fees will come from this figure as well. I'm curious as to why this would be when we've saved the salaries from the defectors. It boosts our baseline for FFP in the next few seasons - as does the use of loan signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 RK said no players ere for sale but suddenly a couple of clubs triggered the sell figure clause built into their contracts . That's what I thought Ralph said . Now who put the contracts together . Was that not the previous chairman ? Mr Cortesse by any chance ? That's exactly what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 I trust the board and Ralph There is a natural instinct to vent anger at someone , in this case for some it is the board RK said no players ere for sale but suddenly a couple of clubs triggered the sell figure clause built into their contracts . That's what I thought Ralph said . Now who put the contracts together . Was that not the previous chairman ? Mr Cortesse by any chance ? dont think he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Its hard to call anyone a liar in management without knowing the full facts and decision-making process the inner team are involved in. But, we have been told by him that every penny will be reinvested from sales... and I am being consistent here, I will judge him on whether he is a liar on 1 Sep. I think he sounds like Lowe did when we started to fail... and thats what worries me more than anything. I'd hate to go through Lowe's spin and the collapse of something good again. Koeman is all we have in my opinion. Everything we do must be to support him, I fear noone else will. The only consistency you've shown is saying that you'll wait until September 1 before judging, when post after post after post of utter drivel shows that you reached your judgment long ago "without knowing the full facts and decision-making process the inner team are involved in." Find me the place where Krueger or anyone else has said that all the money would be spent in this widow or by September 1. I want to see this club succeed in the long term and I'd be livid if we blew all of that fortune this Summer in some kind of half-witted quest to appease short-sighted people who have absolutely no idea about the inner workings of Premier league football clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 If you're all up for some more..... Simon Peach @SimonPeach 56m Spent 30 minutes chatting #SaintsFC with Ralph Krueger in his office today. My interview with the chairman on the @pressassoc wire at 10pm. Block 24 how I get to listen to that where is the link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 (edited) It boosts our baseline for FFP in the next few seasons - as does the use of loan signings. We're probably well within the limits - the alarming figures thrown around refer to overall club wages, not player wages which are considerably lower -and FFP wage restrictions apply only to them. If we're looking to boost our baseline, its arguably a very inefficient, risky and redundant strategy. Edited 5 August, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 (edited) RK said no players ere for sale but suddenly a couple of clubs triggered the sell figure clause built into their contracts . That's what I thought Ralph said . Now who put the contracts together . Was that not the previous chairman ? Mr Cortesse by any chance ? And, if it is the case, this is the kind of stuff that us supporters do not understand. Not because we are thick. Simply because we are not privy to the information. Edited 5 August, 2014 by Ohio Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 The only consistency you've shown is saying that you'll wait until September 1 before judging, when post after post after post of utter drivel shows that you reached your judgment long ago "without knowing the full facts and decision-making process the inner team are involved in." Find me the place where Krueger or anyone else has said that all the money would be spent in this widow or by September 1. I want to see this club succeed in the long term and I'd be livid if we blew all of that fortune this Summer in some kind of half-witted quest to appease short-sighted people who have absolutely no idea about the inner workings of Premier league football clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Block 24 how I get to listen to that where is the link ? Think it'll just be in written form in an article Peach is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Should be available here .. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04cb2d8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 What do you expect with a panel that has the combined iq of an amoeba? I mean claridge FFS he is a skate that doesn't know the difference between wife and daughter (no surprises there tho'). :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 It boosts our baseline for FFP in the next few seasons - as does the use of loan signings. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Ralph is out, in fact I've just shared a Fosters and a chat with him. Nice guy!! Sounds like times really are tough. Shame you couldn't have had a drink each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 :lol: Thanks Scotty your post made me laugh . I needed cheering up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Not sure what was achieved by going on this program. He had nothing new to say. In a way with the negative agenda almost guaranteed on these types of programs. The little sneery aside reminding listeners he is a hockey coach for instance, he is just feeding the negative spin that is currently out there around SFC. I know we want to hear him, or christ any one speaking about us in some form of positive light but would think he would be better served to stay away until he can come on after, say some very good signings to at least show that the lovely words are indeed more than that. In my mind the time for talking is well past gone. As he says lets judge him on results and how the new team is performing, say in 6 months. Let him come back on then when hopefully he can remind us of the doubters in the close season who would hopefully all be proved wrong........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 After listening to that I have not changed my mind in any way shape or form. I still believe that David Pleat is a f**king pr*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 How much further up Krueger's a-hole do you think you will need to further climb? Is yours' and small fry's personal hatred for Cortese that intense, ANY alternative is greater than the second coming!! Pathetic turdish. Turdish Small fry Hatred of Cortese Almost got a full house there pal. Last time I checked the definition of supporter was someone who approves of and encourages. I'm doing my part to get behind the team. What are you and your bunch of whinging banshees doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 I think that Ralph is just repeating what he has been told by others at the club. I also think that he actually believes what he says hence why to some he comes across as a genuine person. However I am an old cynic and I learned many years ago that actions speak louder than any words that someone spouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 (edited) ... Edited 5 August, 2014 by Jonnyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 (edited) Not sure what was achieved by going on this program. He had nothing new to say. In a way with the negative agenda almost guaranteed on these types of programs. The little sneery aside reminding listeners he is a hockey coach for instance, he is just feeding the negative spin that is currently out there around SFC. I know we want to hear him, or christ any one speaking about us in some form of positive light but would think he would be better served to stay away until he can come on after, say some very good signings to at least show that the lovely words are indeed more than that. In my mind the time for talking is well past gone. As he says lets judge him on results and how the new team is performing, say in 6 months. Let him come back on then when hopefully he can remind us of the doubters in the close season who would hopefully all be proved wrong........... I guess he was expecting, at least, to have the Tadier signing to fall back on if he agreed to do this interview this morning or yesterday. I just worry that he has mastered the patter to rationalise the "process" of our multiple sales, and soon we enter the phase of rationalising the "process" that we couldn't secure our top targets and hey, it's a difficult process and, sure, we're a little disappointed but Les Reed has been outstanding and we go with what we have created together in our rebuild process and anyway, Georgio Samaras has won the league, like, loads of times. Some effing signings will make your job a heck of a lot easier, Ralph. Edited 5 August, 2014 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 dont think he did "we did not expect the premiums to be hit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manzo Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Simon Peach is tweeting lines from his interview, certainly seems like new info: https://twitter.com/SimonPeach Ralph Krueger believes it would have been an "insane risk" for HYPERLINK "/hashtag/SaintsFC?src=hash"#SaintsFC to keep a core of disgruntled players this summer Krueger: "If a few players are disgruntled or maybe not sure about it, you can swallow that up. You can't have half the team" Sent from my Surface with Windows RT using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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