Batman Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 We need Morgan and tadic fit at the very least to stand a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 @bigadamsport: #saintsfc fans of @jackcork1 will be pleased @RonaldKoeman just told me he's let the club know he'd like to keep Cork beyond the summer Glad to hear that, shame with the injury and the timing but he's obviously done enough to convince the one person that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Regardless of their attack, defensively they are still very getable. Despite injuries I would still leave either Long or Mane on the bench because its important to have someone from the bench that can come on to make an impact. I would go with: ----------------------------------Forster----------------------------------------- Clyne-----------Fonte------------------------Gardos---------------------Bertrand ----------------------Wanyama-----Davis------Reed---------------------------- Tadic-------------------------------------------------------------------------Mane ---------------------------------------Pelle--------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 (edited) Van Gaal on his relationship with Ronald Koeman: "I think this is private." On facing Southampton: "I've read it also in the media. But do you know how much players we've lost. We have lost more players, I'm sorry." "Ronald Koeman is a very good coach so I know he can do it. It is very good." On whether it's better for Saints to have spent less money than United and to be higher: "No. Clubs ask more money from Manchester United. Do you think Southampton pay more money? NO, because it's Southampton." "I think they have a very good squad, some of whom I know. I think they are able to come in the first four. But that's also because I believe in the management, in Ronald Koeman...I believe the cohesion is good, and he can manage." Edited 5 December, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Ronald Koeman says Jack Cork will be out for "more than six weeks", while Morgan Schneiderlin is also out of Monday's game against Manchester United. Defender Toby Alderweireld is also doubtful following the injury which forced him off early against Arsenal on Wednesday, while James Ward-Prowse could return to training in a week's time. Dear god our midfield is going to be thin for this game...I didn't think Cork was that badly injured when he came off at arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Cork was crying when he came off. I think that says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Ron said Reed was one option for Monday One? have we got any others? has Yoshida been hiding an ability to play DM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 We must go with youth. It's time for Reed. It's time for youth to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 We must go with youth. It's time for Reed. It's time for youth to step up. Agree time to show faith in the Southampton way..........If nothing else the youth players won't lack for commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 We must go with youth. It's time for Reed. It's time for youth to step up. Would be good to give him a game against Utd just in case the others are still out the week after and Victor gets another card against Utd, we'd be in a right pickle then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Cork was crying when he came off. I think that says it all he also played on for about 10 mins from the original incident - which obviously didnt help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 .....................Forster Clyne......Fonte...Gardos.....Bertrand ...........Wanyama.....Reed ........................Davis Long................Pelle..........Tadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 On facing Southampton: "I've read it also in the media. But do you know how much players we've lost. We have lost more players, I'm sorry." "On whether it's better for Saints to have spent less money than United and to be higher: "No. Clubs ask more money from Manchester United. Do you think Southampton pay more money? NO, because it's Southampton." Hard to know what is on about really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Back home to watch this with the Japan Saints. Come on Maya, score a little goal for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/9593468/jamie-carragher-manchester-united-position-about-right-ahead-of-southampton-trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 We must go with youth. It's time for Reed. It's time for youth to step up. Agreed, what have we got to lose? He's always impressed me when he has come on, let's see what he can do for the whole 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Hard to know what is on about really. He is right though. United will pay over the odds now for players if the parent club holds out enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Certainly thin on the ground in midfield. However we know Target can hold the lb position so maybe push betrand forward. Same for Clyne if we have someone who can play rb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Certainly thin on the ground in midfield. However we know Target can hold the lb position so maybe push betrand forward. Same for Clyne if we have someone who can play rb[/QUOTE] Alderweir...oh. In that case Cor.....oh. Ummmmmmm, McCarthy becomes our right back cover then. Let's hope we don't lose Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Looks like our lack of strength in depth has been exposed for this one. Will be amazed if we get anything from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Looks like our lack of strength in depth has been exposed for this one.What's crazy is that we didn't expect it to be Midfield where it would be exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 What's crazy is that we didn't expect it to be Midfield where it would be exposed. Yeah there we were worrying about losing Pelle or Forster thought we had reasonable cover in midfield TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Looks like our lack of strength in depth has been exposed for this one. Will be amazed if we get anything from it. Just unlucky more than anything, as a club of our size our midfield options are pretty immense so there's nothing we can actually do about it tbh. Just have to suck it up and accept the bad luck, cause that's all it is right now. No point complaining about a lack of cover in an area we actually did have plenty of cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Koeman said Morgan should be back for next saturday and remember Toby is only a 'doubt' for Monday, its not that bad when you think about it. JWP should be back soon too, its just awkward that so many midfielders happen to have picked up some sort of injury at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 Hard to know what is on about really. [video=youtube_share;WbMUk4Lc1hQ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 December, 2014 Share Posted 5 December, 2014 When asked about Liverpool. LVG said, Southampton play better at this moment. I have more opponents than Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11700/9593468/jamie-carragher-manchester-united-position-about-right-ahead-of-southampton-trip Carra is a decent pundit and not just cos he is saying nice things about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 From FourFourTWo about Pelle's form: In the six matches since (Sunderland game) he's hit the target with just 2 of his 23 shots - most of which (well, 9) came against Stoke. That's some drop-off from his early-season form - up to and including that Sunderland romp (eight games), he'd tested the opposition keeper with 14 of his 27 shots, finding the net with 6 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 (edited) well, if we lose this, that will make out record against the "top 6" bloody awful and put us on course to be just like last season also, you watch the media (or sky should I say) go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about some sort of rift the two managers had ages ago Edited 6 December, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Carra is a decent pundit and not just cos he is saying nice things about us. I don't like the shape his mouth makes when he talks, watch him, you'll see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 well, if we lose this, that will make out record against the "top 6" bloody awful and put us on course to be just like last season also, you watch the media (or sky should I say) go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about some sort of rift the two managers had ages ago They'll probably call us flat track bullies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 I feel happy with Maya in the defence. Toby Alderweld has played well but Maya and Jose have more historic nous together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 also, you watch the media (or sky should I say) go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about some sort of rift the two managers had ages ago Yes, but they both keep fuelling that fire by answering the question. I think it's because Koeman can't help but give an honest answer to every question, but I'm not sure he's helping himself by doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFCRedandWhite Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Only family stand tickets left available, understandable with kick off time. Will be a good atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 If TA is fit for monday that is a huge boost but will it mean Reed will have to wait for his chance? If TA plays hopefully it will be at centre back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 well, if we lose this, that will make out record against the "top 6" bloody awful and put us on course to be just like last season also, you watch the media (or sky should I say) go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about some sort of rift the two managers had ages ago I know. Isn't it just so irritating when people go on and on ad nauseum about the same old bloody thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 I feel happy with Maya in the defence. Toby Alderweld has played well but Maya and Jose have more historic nous together. Sorry mate, he may be one of your countryman but Maya just isn't good enough. If Toby is out then Gardos needs play in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Sorry mate, he may be one of your countryman but Maya just isn't good enough. If Toby is out then Gardos needs play in his place. Mr Koeman disagrees with you. Maya will start and earn new contract over the next weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Sorry mate, he may be one of your countryman but Maya just isn't good enough. If Toby is out then Gardos needs play in his place. What have you seen of Gardos that suggests he's better than Yoshida? He played pretty well against Arsenal in the cup but was very erratic against Stoke. Koeman sees them both in training every day so I'd imagine he has a slightly better idea than you about their respective qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Interesting quote from Van Gaal in this article. "They have a very good squad. I know a lot of players and a lot of players were offered to us." http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/dec/05/louis-van-gaal-southampton-ronald-koeman-manchester-united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 What have you seen of Gardos that suggests he's better than Yoshida? He played pretty well against Arsenal in the cup but was very erratic against Stoke. Koeman sees them both in training every day so I'd imagine he has a slightly better idea than you about their respective qualities. Let's be honest, if we've spent £7million on a centreback who isn't a better option than Yoshida then it's a hell of a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Let's be honest, if we've spent £7million on a centreback who isn't a better option than Yoshida then it's a hell of a mistake. I blame Paul Mitchell, he's a convenient scapegoat for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Let's be honest, if we've spent £7million on a centreback who isn't a better option than Yoshida then it's a hell of a mistake. we didn't and he was bought to add depth cant expect to play all season with just 3 centrebacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 we didn't and he was bought to add depth cant expect to play all season with just 3 centrebacks. Sorry, 7.5million Euros. And I KNOW he was brought to add depth, but he should still be better than the depth we already f*cking have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Gardos is a right-sided centre back no? So he'd be Fonte's replacement? Presumably Koeman prefers to play with one left-sided CB and one right-sided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Gardos is a right-sided centre back no? So he'd be Fonte's replacement? Presumably Koeman prefers to play with one left-sided CB and one right-sided. This whole left sided/right sided nonsense didn't exist until the mid 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 No tadic in training gallery today but several of the academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 Let's be honest, if we've spent £7million on a centreback who isn't a better option than Yoshida then it's a hell of a mistake. Or maybe it just shows that Yoshida isn't as bad as some on here would like to believe. He has been thrown on against Arsenal and Man City due to injuries and done alright. Sure he has looked nervy and made a couple of mistakes but you would expect that. It would be wildly optimistic to expect Southampton's back up defender to make it look easy against Aguero and Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 What have you seen of Gardos that suggests he's better than Yoshida? He played pretty well against Arsenal in the cup but was very erratic against Stoke. Koeman sees them both in training every day so I'd imagine he has a slightly better idea than you about their respective qualities. He was not very erratic in the against Stoke, he made 2 mistakes late on, when the whole team was under pressure. One of which nearly cost us of course, but didnt. Up until then he was rock solid against their big and physical attack, as he was against Arsenal. If Maya was left out due to errors he would have never played again long ago. He turned his back to Lampard (a trait of his) and made a mess of a clearance at Arsenal from which Wellback pounced. He did ok and I dont expect him to be faultless but I think Gardos has looked more solid in his couple of games. Maya may be quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 December, 2014 Share Posted 6 December, 2014 im sure stoke have just ended a similar horrible run of games with a nice win be good if we do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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