Club Crest: would you change it?

[Morse]

A weeping virgin Mary would be apt. 

[badgerx16]

32 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

The only ship I can think of in regards to saints is the titanic.

 

29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

The Mayflower

Symbolism is lost on Matthew.

[badgerx16]

If you want a ship then one or both of the Cunard Queens..........or perhaps the floating bridge.

[Matthew Le God]

37 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

 

Symbolism is lost on Matthew.

No, it is lost on you. I know he was linking the Titanic sinking to Saints current situation, but The Mayflower has Christian links for a former church team.

[Weston Super Saint]

46 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

No, it is lost on you. I know he was linking the Titanic sinking to Saints current situation, but The Mayflower has Christian links for a former church team.

The Mayflower. Likely to have been built in Harwich and famous for sailing out of Plymouth?

That's the best you can think of to represent Southampton?

[Matthew Le God]

22 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

The Mayflower. Likely to have been built in Harwich and famous for sailing out of Plymouth?

That's the best you can think of to represent Southampton?

The journey intention was to go from Southampton to America. But they had to go to port in Plymouth due to issues with the ship. 

Edited 16 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

The journey intention was to go from Southampton to America. But they had to go to port in Plymouth due to issues with the ship. 

 

So it didn't start from Southampton then?

The journey to America started a month later, from Plymouth.

Not sure any ship gained notoriety sailing from Southampton to Plymouth 🤦‍♂️

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So it didn't start from Southampton then?

If you start a car journey and you need to stop your car for repairs and someone asks where your journey started from, do you say your journey was from your house or the place where the repairs took place?

You might mention you stopped for repairs, but it wasn't the journey starting point. The repairs were at a point after the intended journey started.

Edited 16 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

If you start a car journey and you need to stop your car for repairs and someone asks where your journey started from, do you say your journey was from your house or the place where the repairs took place?

You might mention you stopped for repairs, but it wasn't the journey starting point.

If I stopped my car for a month for repairs, I'd say I started my next journey from the garage.

This seems pretty simple, even for you to grasp.

[Matthew Le God]

7 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

If I stopped my car for a month for repairs, I'd say I started my next journey from the garage.

This seems pretty simple, even for you to grasp.

Have you considered ship repairs in 1620 at ports along way from home take longer than changing a car tire in 2025? The repairs in both examples are still unintended stops after the journey had already started.

Edited 16 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Weston Super Saint]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Have you considered ship repairs in 1620 at ports along way from home take longer than changing a car tire in 2025? The repairs in both examples are still unintended stops after the journey had already started.

You came up with the ludicrous car repair garage scenario, not me.

Just accept you are wrong, again, and that The Mayflower set sail from Plymouth.

[Matthew Le God]

6 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

You came up with the ludicrous car repair garage scenario, not me.

Just accept you are wrong, again, and that The Mayflower set sail from Plymouth.

Not ludicrous at all. Entirely relevant.

Should Southampton also rename the theatre and knock down the Mayflower memorials?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

29 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

If I stopped my car for a month for repairs, I'd say I started my next journey from the garage.

This seems pretty simple, even for you to grasp.

Nothing is too simple for MLG to grasp.

12 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

You came up with the ludicrous car repair garage scenario, not me.

Just accept you are wrong, again, and that The Mayflower set sail from Plymouth.

Nothing is too inaccurate for MLG to defend.

For those who'd like to see The Mayflower on a club badge, there's Plymouth and Boston, who have somehow usurped Saints rightful use of it. 🙂

Is that 4 or 5 complete humour failures from MLG just this week?

[SaintBobby]

I think we should have the Mary Rose on the club crest.

Ok, it's actually in Portsmouth, but I think Henry VIII once visited Southampton.

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

No, it is lost on you. I know he was linking the Titanic sinking to Saints current situation, but The Mayflower has Christian links for a former church team.

The Pilgrim Fathers rejected the authority of the organised Protestant Church and had initially fled to the Netherlands to avoid persecution.

EDIT; Plymouth Argyle already have the Mayflower on their badge, why would we want to copy them ?

Edited 15 hours ago by badgerx16

[ecuk268]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

The journey intention was to go from Southampton to America. But they had to go to port in Plymouth due to issues with the ship. 

There were no issues with the Mayflower. it was the Speedwell that needed repairs. That was the only reason they went into Dartmouth.

The Speedwell had further problems abut 200 miles into the voyage and both ships had to return to Plymouth where the Speedwell's passengers transferred to the Mayflower that continued the voyage alone.

[SW5 SAINT]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So it didn't start from Southampton then?

The journey to America started a month later, from Plymouth.

Not sure any ship gained notoriety sailing from Southampton to Plymouth 🤦‍♂️

The Titanic is usually regarded as having started her maiden voyage from Southampton, however she was scheduled to call at both Cherbourg and Queenstown on the way to New York…..!

[Holmes_and_Watson]

10 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

There were no issues with the Mayflower. it was the Speedwell that needed repairs. That was the only reason they went into Dartmouth.

The Speedwell had further problems abut 200 miles into the voyage and both ships had to return to Plymouth where the Speedwell's passengers transferred to the Mayflower that continued the voyage alone.

Not only interesting, but has solved what moment in time to put on the badge for SR.

The Speedwell!

Begins on a journey to a promised land, issues probably caused by overmasting at the top, and returns in need of repair! 🙂

We could do with a Speedwell, or it's prior name, Swiftsure, in the team too.

 

[Weston Super Saint]

52 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said:

The Titanic is usually regarded as having started her maiden voyage from Southampton, however she was scheduled to call at both Cherbourg and Queenstown on the way to New York…..!

So, depart from Southampton, pick a few people up in Cherbourg (they have a Titanic museum as well), a matter of hours later continue the planned journey to New York via Queens town.

Completely different to, leave Southampton, get a little way along the channel before heading into Devonport, unscheduled. Stay there for a fortnight or so, set off again, but turn round and go to Plymouth. Finally leave Plymouth a month after the journey was planned to start.

The journey started from Plymouth.

The Titanic set off from Southampton.

Not sure what the argument is?

[The Kraken]

I may be wrong but when they got to the USA, didn’t the Pilgrim fathers establish Plymouth Colony?

Ungrateful swines not naming it after the fair old town they set sail from.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I may be wrong but when they got to the USA, didn’t the Pilgrim fathers establish Plymouth Colony?

Ungrateful swines not naming it after the fair old town they set sail from.

They did! ( Because I read it online, as I was learning about the Speedwell half an hour ago 🙂)

[Gingeletiss]

The Red Falcon set sail from Southampton, HTH’s

[CB Fry]

Just take the Spitfire for our badge and Eastleigh can get fucked.

[Dr. Kucho]

We could have that boat the guy in Bitterne built, that never left his backyard, on our crest. Certainly one of very few boats that never left Southampton. 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

We should have Benny Hill on our badge. 

[SotonianWill]

5 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Just take the Spitfire for our badge and Eastleigh can get fucked.

In all fairness, we have more claim to it than they do. Even their airfield (now airport) is in our name; Woolston being the true home of the Supermarine factory, now flats, like all things these days.

 

Titanic is a no go as it’s a tragic moment in our great city’s history with over a third of those perishing being locals - not that anyone on this thread needs reminding. 

 

Other options - Queen Mary?

Edited 8 hours ago by SotonianWill

[The Kraken]

7 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

In all fairness, we have more claim to it than they do. Even their airfield (now airport) is in our name.

A minor section of the runway is actually in Southampton. Tbf most of it is in Eastleigh but the southern section is 100% Saints.

An anagram of Eastleigh is eagle shit.

[Gingeletiss]

36 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

A minor section of the runway is actually in Southampton. Tbf most of it is in Eastleigh but the southern section is 100% Saints.

An anagram of Eastleigh is eagle shit.

Also……elite shag

[Whitey Grandad]

9 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

The journey intention was to go from Southampton to America. But they had to go to port in Plymouth due to issues with the ship. 

The problems were with the Speedwell which was unseaworthy. The Mayflower was an Essex ship possibly from Harwich. Its Captain Christopher Jones lived in Harwich and his house is still there with a blue plaque on it.

I went to Mayflower School in Dovercourt.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Disregarding a history lesson more boring than our season, the answer to the OP is no. Err, thanks.