Sheaf Saint Posted April 25 Posted April 25 16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: And yet somehow the number of goals we conceded went up from 1.3 to 1.8 per game, in the 5 games after Bazunu got injured. It's almost as if none of our GK options were actually very good. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted April 25 Posted April 25 22 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: And yet somehow the number of goals we conceded went up from 1.3 to 1.8 per game, in the 5 games after Bazunu got injured. The Leicester result skews a far smaller sample. And look at the outcomes in the play offs themselves plus we only conceded one at Elland the game before.
Gloucester Saint Posted April 25 Posted April 25 8 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: It's almost as if none of our GK options were actually very good. To think that even other struggling Saints sides have had the likes of Flowers and Niemi in goal. Keeper recruitment has been crap for about 10 years now. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted April 25 Posted April 25 12 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: To think that even other struggling Saints sides have had the likes of Flowers and Niemi in goal. Keeper recruitment has been crap for about 10 years now. Even Ian Andrews managed a to make a few decent saves from time to time. 1
Whitey Grandad Posted April 25 Posted April 25 49 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Even Ian Andrews managed a to make a few decent saves from time to time. Ideally your keeper wouldn’t need to make any saves.
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 25 Posted April 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: He played the major part of a season that saw us promoted. Correct, we have our Wembley memory thanks to Baz, a great day. Without Baz we wouldn’t have had that …we’d have been up automatically already…. Edited April 25 by Lord Duckhunter 1 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted April 25 Posted April 25 25 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Ideally your keeper wouldn’t need to make any saves. Doubly so if Baz is in nets… 3
S-Clarke Posted April 25 Posted April 25 If he becomes our first choice again next season, this will sadly confirm to me that as a club we have absolutely no idea what we are doing. He has been a pet project since day 1, just because he can play with the football. There are other fundamental attributes to goalkeepers Whenever I've watched him I've always seen an outfield player in goal, he has all the attributes of an outfield player but absolutely none of the attributes required to be a competent goalkeeper. His loan to Standard was an opportunity, but he has been doing exactly the same over there. Letting in pretty much any shot on target. If he's number 1 then Spors and whoever the new manager is are equally as clueless as all who went before. This position is a key decision that will show where we're heading. 4
Saint86 Posted April 25 Posted April 25 I haven't given up home that we keep ramsdale. As mad as it sounds, I think financially we aren't too badly off re relegation. Profit last season, likely a profit this season. And a rebalanced squad with almost certain relegation wage clauses in them. Surely the only way we sell ramsdale is if it's considered to be worth it by the club? Which means we get a good slab of profit, and we have a goalkeeper considered both good enough for the champ and who can step up to the prem. 1
Gingeletiss Posted April 25 Posted April 25 30 minutes ago, Saint86 said: I haven't given up home that we keep ramsdale. As mad as it sounds, I think financially we aren't too badly off re relegation. Profit last season, likely a profit this season. And a rebalanced squad with almost certain relegation wage clauses in them. Surely the only way we sell ramsdale is if it's considered to be worth it by the club? Which means we get a good slab of profit, and we have a goalkeeper considered both good enough for the champ and who can step up to the prem. Or, he has a relegation clause in his contract.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted April 25 Posted April 25 35 minutes ago, Saint86 said: I haven't given up home that we keep ramsdale. As mad as it sounds, I think financially we aren't too badly off re relegation. Profit last season, likely a profit this season. And a rebalanced squad with almost certain relegation wage clauses in them. Surely the only way we sell ramsdale is if it's considered to be worth it by the club? Which means we get a good slab of profit, and we have a goalkeeper considered both good enough for the champ and who can step up to the prem. I hope this the case. Keeping him would be a start to having a team that can stay up. Just need to look at 8 or 9 of the others for next time. 6 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said: Or, he has a relegation clause in his contract. Bah! I didn't get time to enjoy Saint86's post at all. 🙂 1
Whitey Grandad Posted April 25 Posted April 25 4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Correct, we have our Wembley memory thanks to Baz, a great day. Without Baz we wouldn’t have had that …we’d have been up automatically already…. Please don’t tell me that you believe that we’d have got automatic promotion with McCarthy in goal all season?
gio1saints Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) 17 hours ago, Saint86 said: I haven't given up home that we keep ramsdale. As mad as it sounds, I think financially we aren't too badly off re relegation. Profit last season, likely a profit this season. And a rebalanced squad with almost certain relegation wage clauses in them. Surely the only way we sell ramsdale is if it's considered to be worth it by the club? Which means we get a good slab of profit, and we have a goalkeeper considered both good enough for the champ and who can step up to the prem. There is a slight chance we may not lose Aaron entirely. 1. We make him best paid player in the Championship. And keep him at high EPL level salary or simply a one year bonus. Remove any financial reason for him to leave basically. Offer him a £5m bonus if we get promoted and EPL wages. Fuck differentials with rest of squad he’s a top gk. 2. OR a bit more longwinded - He might be offered an extended contract - then allowed to be loaned to Chelsea ( or similar European football playing team) for example in order to satisfy his top level playing and International aspirations for next season. This would mean his family could stay in the South and were we to get promoted at first opportunity he’d be able to come back to us and a part of the world him and family feel most comfortable with. Or sold to Chelsea for massive fee. Don’t see either myself and it’d be clutching at straws but good goalies like him are rare so I’d do pretty much anything to somehow keep him on board. Financially I think point 1. Is arguable. We can spend £12m including wages on a new gk who may or may not be any good - or basically pay what it takes to keep a gk we know will be best in the league from Day One. No brainer for SR imo. IF they can think in that pragmatic way. Edited April 26 by gio1saints
kjurwi Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Honestly think we will start next season with Bazunu as first keeper🫣. Maby panic buy someone in January if he sucks. 2
East Kent Saint Posted April 26 Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, kjurwi said: Honestly think we will start next season with Bazunu as first keeper🫣. Maby panic buy someone in January if he sucks. He will and if he is Saints will be in Div 1 the following season 😄
chivvy Posted April 26 Posted April 26 If no one can see he isn't good enough then it a very sad state of affairs. Saving shots is fundamental part of your skill set as a keeper. He could pass like KDB but if he can't save a shot forget it . 2
Gloucester Saint Posted April 28 Posted April 28 On 26/04/2025 at 10:46, chivvy said: If no one can see he isn't good enough then it a very sad state of affairs. Saving shots is fundamental part of your skill set as a keeper. He could pass like KDB but if he can't save a shot forget it . Except even the feet strength is a myth, as you can see from this video from the home of myths
Oldandtired Posted April 28 Posted April 28 On 26/04/2025 at 09:41, kjurwi said: Honestly think we will start next season with Bazunu as first keeper🫣. Maby panic buy someone in January if he sucks. If? 1
Dman Posted April 28 Posted April 28 On 25/04/2025 at 15:55, Saint86 said: I haven't given up home that we keep ramsdale. As mad as it sounds, I think financially we aren't too badly off re relegation. Profit last season, likely a profit this season. And a rebalanced squad with almost certain relegation wage clauses in them. Surely the only way we sell ramsdale is if it's considered to be worth it by the club? Which means we get a good slab of profit, and we have a goalkeeper considered both good enough for the champ and who can step up to the prem. Its a world cup next summer. There is absolutely no way Ramsdale is playing in the championship. 0 possibility at all. The only reason he came to us, was to get game time, to get back into the England squad.
kjurwi Posted April 28 Posted April 28 3 hours ago, Oldandtired said: If? Have a delusional faith in that he can be better than the last season in the Championship. I hope he surprises us all.
Andrew Watson Posted April 28 Posted April 28 I was told 6 weeks ago that he will be number one this year. 1 6
Gloucester Saint Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said: I was told 6 weeks ago that he will be number one this year. Those of you who missed the League 1 days are in for a treat then. Nice of the club to give the new manager the final say. 1
Whitey Grandad Posted April 28 Posted April 28 13 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said: I was told 6 weeks ago that he will be number one this year. He’s injury prone. 1
lambtiss Posted Monday at 21:31 Posted Monday at 21:31 4 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: He’s injury prone. He's certainly error prone 4
Galway saint Posted Monday at 22:52 Posted Monday at 22:52 6 hours ago, Andrew Watson said: I was told 6 weeks ago that he will be number one this year. for who though ? cobh ramblers ? 3
Galway saint Posted Monday at 22:55 Posted Monday at 22:55 I've watched some of the highlights when he was playing in belgium and it just seems more of the same really his biggest failing is his positional sense - concedes odd goals as he gets himself in the wrong positions and isn't physically big enough to correct those said it time and time again he is not a goalkeeper if the club reinstate him as number 1 it will be a clear signal to me that nothing has changed 9
Danbert Posted Thursday at 07:33 Posted Thursday at 07:33 https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/southampton-fc-to-battle-european-competition-for-bayern-munich-option/ Please let this be true. Gavin's a liability - we need someone better than him next season. 1 1
Teamsaint1 Posted Thursday at 07:58 Posted Thursday at 07:58 On 28/04/2025 at 12:26, Dman said: Its a world cup next summer. There is absolutely no way Ramsdale is playing in the championship. 0 possibility at all. The only reason he came to us, was to get game time, to get back into the England squad. And in any case you would imagine that he has a release clause. Lets Hope Fernandes doesn't .
Saint Fan CaM Posted Thursday at 08:01 Posted Thursday at 08:01 25 minutes ago, Danbert said: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/southampton-fc-to-battle-european-competition-for-bayern-munich-option/ Please let this be true. Gavin's a liability - we need someone better than him next season. This guy doesn't sound very good though - three games and let in four easy save goals apparently. No better than Baz?
Chez Posted Thursday at 09:44 Posted Thursday at 09:44 On 25/04/2025 at 16:26, Gingeletiss said: Or, he has a relegation clause in his contract. He has a £25m buy out clause according to one of the dodgy football rumour websites. From what I've seen of him this year, he's worth every penny of that. 1
Miltonaggro Posted Thursday at 10:27 Posted Thursday at 10:27 On 28/04/2025 at 23:52, Galway saint said: for who though ? cobh ramblers ? No good bigging him up for a transfer to a top European side.
Danbert Posted Thursday at 10:36 Posted Thursday at 10:36 2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: This guy doesn't sound very good though - three games and let in four easy save goals apparently. No better than Baz? I've no idea whether either of the keepers mentioned are any good, but, it would seem, if our interest is genuine, that the club are not planning to rely on Bazunu next season, and that I find reassuring. 6
Mozz Posted Thursday at 11:36 Posted Thursday at 11:36 57 minutes ago, Danbert said: I've no idea whether either of the keepers mentioned are any good, but, it would seem, if our interest is genuine, that the club are not planning to rely on Bazunu next season, and that I find reassuring. I guess we should be goalkeeper shopping this summer regardless of their confidence in Bazunu as McCarthy (one year left) and Lumley (free agent this summer) are the other senior goalkeepers, so a clear need to refresh that department.
badgerx16 Posted Thursday at 11:44 Posted Thursday at 11:44 (edited) 3 hours ago, Teamsaint1 said: And in any case you would imagine that he has a release clause. Lets Hope Fernandes doesn't . Whether Fernandes has such a clause or not, could the club resist a £35M bid ? Would he want to stay if a PL or top division European club came in for him ? Edited Thursday at 11:45 by badgerx16
Lighthouse Posted Thursday at 11:49 Posted Thursday at 11:49 2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Whether Fernandes has such a clause or not, could the club resist a £35M bid ? Would he want to stay if a PL or top division European club came in for him ? Given his age, I’d have thought he’d be more in the £40m-ish category and I don’t think we’d turn that down. The team will need restructuring for the Championship and having five £15m players would be a better balance than having two worth a combined £70m. 1
bugenhagen Posted Thursday at 20:53 Posted Thursday at 20:53 8 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Given his age, I’d have thought he’d be more in the £40m-ish category and I don’t think we’d turn that down. The team will need restructuring for the Championship and having five £15m players would be a better balance than having two worth a combined £70m. Isn't this the very strategy that has hauntet us for a while now... remember that with our track record, about 1 out of 5 signings end up being any good. So we will effectively swap two players worth a combined 70mill, with one or two worth 15m each...
Chez Posted Thursday at 21:02 Posted Thursday at 21:02 7 minutes ago, bugenhagen said: Isn't this the very strategy that has hauntet us for a while now... remember that with our track record, about 1 out of 5 signings end up being any good. So we will effectively swap two players worth a combined 70mill, with one or two worth 15m each... if only 1 out of 5 signings will be good, how many good players will we have if we sign two? GCSE maths revision right there.
bugenhagen Posted Thursday at 22:29 Posted Thursday at 22:29 1 hour ago, Chez said: if only 1 out of 5 signings will be good, how many good players will we have if we sign two? GCSE maths revision right there. Probably none, but the premise was signing 5 players, hence we might end up with one or two decent signings... This must be what being MLG feels like 😉
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