Gavin Bazunu

[Miltonaggro]

15 minutes ago, Badger said:

I fear you’re right in that summary. We’re living in cuckoo land thinking Spurs or someone will offer us £35m for Bazunu at some point and staying on that path. 

He's 'worth' about ten percent of that, and that's the likely ceiling at any point.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, Miltonaggro said:

He's 'worth' about ten percent of that, and that's the likely ceiling at any point.

He's not worth what we paid. In actuality he's only worth what someone will pay for him.

[Saint_clark]

8 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Too close to him. It's passed before before any human can react. That's why you see so many shors go through a keeper's legs.

...right.

[Miltonaggro]

1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He's not worth what we paid. In actuality he's only worth what someone will pay for him.

Of course, Whitey, but not the hot prospect successive Boards seem to think he is.

[Whitey Grandad]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

...right.

Yep. To stop those a keeper has to get lucky. Even the best wouldn't stop them all. Maybe 30 to 40%.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He's not worth what we paid. In actuality he's only worth what someone will pay for him.

So he's technically 'worth' what we paid for him.

His future 'worth' is yet to be decided.  It may well be £0.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

Of course, Whitey, but not the hot prospect Rasmus Ankerson seem to think he is.

Corrected it for you.

[Lord Duckhunter]

3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

It's passed before before any human can react.

Yet another goal that no keeper on earth could stop. 😂😂

[Weston Super Saint]

4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Yet another goal that no keeper on earth could stop. 😂😂

Not a human one anyway.

[pimpin4rizeal]

6 hours ago, vectraman said:

💰💰💰💰💰 normally is the answer. We could comfortably pay him more than Stoke. Moot point though because we aren’t going to try and sign him anyway. Baz is our 🥇and that has always been the intention. 

Exactly makes fuck all sense really and keeper is the hardest position to sell for big money even if he turned out to be the next Peter Shilton..

its getting so irritating that all the club cares about is player values 

[Osvaldorama]

I think bazunu has blackmail material on the clubs owners. 

Bringing in a noddy third choice instead of a genuine replacement is absolutely staggering to me. Going to cost us dearly this season. 

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

its getting so irritating that all the club cares about is player values 

We’ve been generating money from selling on players since before I was born, right back to Chivers and probably before that.

But the emphasis was mainly on using that profit to re-invest back into the club including the playing squad. Whether we always agreed with how Reader, Woodford, Askham, Lowe, Cortese, Kat did that is another matter for debate but the club was the priority. Hard to say with Gao, void period really but it did let Ralph down.

With SR, I get a clear sense that player trading profits are 💯 how they measure themselves and don’t think the individual club’s performances actually matter whatsoever. It’s a bonus Goztepe have done well, off Saints’s backs to an extent, but I don’t think the fact that Saints and Valenciennes are having some of their worst post-war seasons even registers. There’s a window dressing restructure and then Rasmus carries on as he was, aided and abetted by Solak.

[trousers]

So, now it's been rubber-stamped that Bazunu will be our first choice keeper, where do we rate him amongst his Championship peers?

Obviously, to be challenging for automatic promotion we need to aspire to have the best (or almost best) players in all positions, or at the very least in the key positions, such as goalkeeper. So can anyone name 2, or more, better keepers than Bazunu in this division...?

Edited Monday at 17:21 by trousers

[SaintsBarry74]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Exactly makes fuck all sense really and keeper is the hardest position to sell for big money even if he turned out to be the next Peter Shilton..

its getting so irritating that all the club cares about is player values 

All we’re doing is lowering his value by continuing to play him. Baz ranked as the worst shot-stopper in 22/23 and 23/24, and I’d wager he’ll manage the hat-trick this season.

[S-Clarke]

I'd love to have a terrible record at my job, and then sit back and watch my company bring in people who are worse to my team. It would put my mind at ease. I wouldn't need to worry about improving myself or even look over my shoulder, I can carry on being shit. I'm safe as houses.

I've burnt down the office? Twice? Shit. Oh well, back to the new office next week in the same role.

[Pamplemousse]

https://www.whoscored.com/regions/252/tournaments/7/seasons/10784/stages/24580/playerstatistics/england-championship-2025-2026

 

Filtering it by goalkeepers, 25 have played in the league so far and Bazunu is ranked 19th

[trousers]

Just now, Pamplemousse said:

https://www.whoscored.com/regions/252/tournaments/7/seasons/10784/stages/24580/playerstatistics/england-championship-2025-2026

 

Filtering it by goalkeepers, 25 have played in the league so far and Bazunu is ranked 19th

Cheers for the info. So, is anyone happy that a team with the 19th best keeper in the league is well placed to push for automatic promotion?

[saintant]

51 minutes ago, trousers said:

So, now it's been rubber-stamped that Bazunu will be our first choice keeper, where do we rate him amongst his Championship peers?

Obviously, to be challenging for automatic promotion we need to aspire to have the best (or almost best) players in all positions, or at the very least in the key positions, such as goalkeeper. So can anyone name 2, or more, better keepers than Bazunu in this division...?

Yes, anyone can.

[S-Clarke]

48 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

https://www.whoscored.com/regions/252/tournaments/7/seasons/10784/stages/24580/playerstatistics/england-championship-2025-2026

 

Filtering it by goalkeepers, 25 have played in the league so far and Bazunu is ranked 19th

There's one thing he's consistent at, and it's ranking amongst the lowest positions in the league he's in.

[LGTL]

59 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'd love to have a terrible record at my job, and then sit back and watch my company bring in people who are worse to my team. It would put my mind at ease. I wouldn't need to worry about improving myself or even look over my shoulder, I can carry on being shit. I'm safe as houses.

I've burnt down the office? Twice? Shit. Oh well, back to the new office next week in the same role.

Don’t forget, after burning down your own office you went to the office of a different company, and burnt their office down too. 

You were then welcomed back to your new office with open arms. 

[SaintsBarry74]

46 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

https://www.whoscored.com/regions/252/tournaments/7/seasons/10784/stages/24580/playerstatistics/england-championship-2025-2026

 

Filtering it by goalkeepers, 25 have played in the league so far and Bazunu is ranked 19th

Still early days, but we all know where he'll end on the charts.

Bazunu - Premier League 2022/2023 shot stopping (xG), ranked 39 out of 39. (worst -xG on record)

Bazunu - Championship 2023/2024 shot stopping (xG), ranked 46 out of 46. (on track to worst -xG on record, before injury)

[Lord Duckhunter]

16 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Don’t forget, after burning down your own office you went to the office of a different company, and burnt their office down too. 

You were then welcomed back to your new office with open arms. 

And there were people on a forum claiming he was unlucky that his offices caught fire, and nobody in the world could have stopped the fire. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

As a club we seem to have a blind spot with certain players, Baz and Stephens to name two. We probably should have got in a number one on loan, pushed Baz to the bench and left McCarthy as 3rd choice. Our recruitment is just fuckin lazy for a club of our size.

[Whitey Grandad]

6 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Yet another goal that no keeper on earth could stop. 😂😂

If you don't understand then just admit it and we can all move on.

[Whitey Grandad]

7 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So he's technically 'worth' what we paid for him.

His future 'worth' is yet to be decided.  It may well be £0.

That was then and this is now. Value and worth are two different things. When we bought him he was worth something to his sellers. Now we've got him he's worth something different to anyone daft enough to buy him.

[chiknsmack]

10 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

If you don't understand then just admit it and we can all move on.

[sfc4prem]

I've said it before, he has crisp packet hands and wrists. 

He frequently dives late. It's almost comical, like he's been instructed to do so to take the piss out of us. Even after the ball has passed him, he dives. 

I swear the bloke must be some sort of Portsmouth spy sent to fuck us over.

Has he cast some sort of spell on the people in charge? If they were lazy, all they would have to do is look at the raw data about his shot-stopping ability.

Terrible.

[Sheaf Saint]

So can someone please explain to me how Stoke's second goal on Saturday was apparently unstoppable, but this wasn't? 

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPXhhRGKKs71z6FOuk2cPdufO4kQovwUm?si=7tJOlWtkquRiXFZh

[skintsaint]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

So can someone please explain to me how Stoke's second goal on Saturday was apparently unstoppable, but this wasn't? 

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPXhhRGKKs71z6FOuk2cPdufO4kQovwUm?si=7tJOlWtkquRiXFZh

That wasn't hit as well. The one on Saturday was hit a lot harder/cleaner (but still think Baz should have saved with his feet instead of going for the dive).

[Lighthouse]

30 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

So can someone please explain to me how Stoke's second goal on Saturday was apparently unstoppable, but this wasn't? 

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxPXhhRGKKs71z6FOuk2cPdufO4kQovwUm?si=7tJOlWtkquRiXFZh

1. That shot doesn’t appear to be have struck as well, giving McC a fraction of a second longer to react.
2. Nobody has ever said that the goals Bazunu lets in are ‘unstoppable’ that’s just another of Ducky’s silly straw men. All the penalties conceded in all of last night’s shootouts were ‘stoppable’ to some extent, that doesn’t mean the keeper had a ‘mare if they went in. Likewise any number of goals Ramsdale conceded last season.

[gio1saints]

On 25/08/2025 at 18:19, trousers said:

So, now it's been rubber-stamped that Bazunu will be our first choice keeper, where do we rate him amongst his Championship peers?

Obviously, to be challenging for automatic promotion we need to aspire to have the best (or almost best) players in all positions, or at the very least in the key positions, such as goalkeeper. So can anyone name 2, or more, better keepers than Bazunu in this division...?

Shameless dog whistling. 🙁.
After 3 matches you disingenuously ask who is his better in the league.
Come on you can do better - why not try : “Calling all Gavin Bazunu haters here is a thread you can vent your spleen on.”

[trousers]

10 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

Shameless dog whistling. 🙁.
After 3 matches you disingenuously ask who is his better in the league.
Come on you can do better - why not try : “Calling all Gavin Bazunu haters here is a thread you can vent your spleen on.”

Nope, I'm genuinely interested in how good Bazunu is in relation to the other keepers in the league, so 10/10 for making stuff up in an attempt to sound clever...

(If anything, it was a 'call' to those that rate him to express how good he is, but that probably doesn't fit the desired narrative...)

Edited Wednesday at 08:24 by trousers

[gio1saints]

12 minutes ago, trousers said:

Nope, I'm genuinely interested in how good Bazunu is in relation to the other keepers in the league, so 10/10 for making stuff up in an attempt to sound clever...

No I think you are not.
 

I Like you and most of your posts and posting style but this is crass. If genuine you’d wait until there was a statistically useful sample - not 3 matches. Or anything from two years ago.

You 100% know that. You also know with 99% certainty what those who can be bothered to be activated by your dog whistle will say. So what’s the real purpose? Do you really expect people to have encyclopaedic knowledge of every championship goalkeepers performance in the last three matches or are you really just having a bit of fun activating Gavin haters into a froth for your amusement ? What’s more likely? 

If you want to find a new way to have a go at a player who was not even playing last night ( why??) I know you can do better than this fake poll effort. 

Edited Wednesday at 08:29 by gio1saints

[trousers]

30 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

No I think you are not.
 

I Like you and most of your posts and posting style but this is crass. If genuine you’d wait until there was a statistically useful sample - not 3 matches. Or anything from two years ago.

You 100% know that. You also know with 99% certainty what those who can be bothered to be activated by your dog whistle will say. So what’s the real purpose? Do you really expect people to have encyclopaedic knowledge of every championship goalkeepers performance in the last three matches or are you really just having a bit of fun activating Gavin haters into a froth for your amusement ? What’s more likely? 

If you want to find a new way to have a go at a player who was not even playing last night ( why??) I know you can do better than this fake poll effort. 

Are you my wife? Ok... if it makes you happy, yes, I admit it, youve caught me out hook line and sinker there and I humbly apologise. Now, is there any housework you'd like me to help you out with pumpkin? ❤️

Edited Wednesday at 08:59 by trousers

[egg]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

Are you my wife? Ok... if it makes you happy, yes, I admit it, youve caught me out hook line and sinker there and I humbly apologise. Now, is there any houework you'd like me to help you out with darling? ❤️

He's right though, and has called out exactly what you're doing. 

[Scummer]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

He's right though, and has called out exactly what you're doing. 

Plus it's not even a valid premise. Leeds won the division last season and their goalkeeper was awful.

[Saint_clark]

3 minutes ago, Scummer said:

Plus it's not even a valid premise. Leeds won the division last season and their goalkeeper was awful.

Meslier? What?

[LGTL]

3 minutes ago, Scummer said:

Plus it's not even a valid premise. Leeds won the division last season and their goalkeeper was awful.

Agree. The way to definitely win the league is by having an awful goalkeeper. 

[trousers]

5 minutes ago, Scummer said:

Plus it's not even a valid premise. Leeds won the division last season and their goalkeeper was awful.

Interesting if true (cards on the table time: I'm not a championship goalkeeper officionado, hence my curiosity on the subject)

By what measures / stats was he "awful" btw? (not doubting what you say, just genuine interest, as always...)

Edited Wednesday at 09:10 by trousers

[egg]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

Interesting if true (cards on the table time: I'm not a championship goalkeeper officionado, hence my curiosity on the subject)

By what measures / stats was he "awful" btw? (not doubting what you say, just genuine interest, as always...)

Do you really measure a keeper (or any players) ability by stats?

They're largely nonsense. Take Downs. No assists yesterday. That's because someone else didn't finish a gift. 

Fwiw, I'm not a Baz fan. I see someone not save shots that he should. I don't need a stat for that. However, our owners don't see what I see, ditto others, hence my acceptance that he's staying and won't be upgraded. 

And yep, Leeds got promoted in spite of their keeper because they were strong elsewhere. 

All of the above highlights that the focus on Baz futile - he's our boy, and if we're better elsewhere, we'll do ok regardless. 

[trousers]

15 minutes ago, egg said:

He's right though, and has called out exactly what you're doing. 

In all seriousness, I've just read my original post back and, yes, I can see there was an element of 'dog whistling' about the way I worded it, so apologies @gio1saints for my sarky response. I remain genuinely interested though in how our keeper(s) compare against other championship sides, and how much that might impact upon our chances of auto-promotion 👍

[trousers]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

Do you really measure a keeper (or any players) ability by stats?

Not sure. I'd probably primarily rate a keeper based on how many 'saveable' shots they let in. Not sure if that counts as a "stat" or not but it's as simple as that for me. (Being a simple kinda guy )

[gio1saints]

8 minutes ago, trousers said:

In all seriousness, I've just read my original post back and, yes, I can see there was an element of 'dog whistling' about the way I worded it, so apologies @gio1saints for my sarky response. I remain genuinely interested though in how our keeper(s) compare against other championship sides, and how much that might impact upon our chances of auto-promotion 👍

No apologies required but here’s a very  very useful stat 😉that really puts into perspective Gavin Bazunu.
There’s been 96 goals conceded in the Championship this season so far ( according to wiki) .

Guess how many Gavin has let in?If you were thinking 25 or 30 of those you’d be wrong!
Yup, get this,  he has only conceded FOUR! Out of 96 in the league! That’s an amazing statistic. Good job Baz! 🤣

NB Another useful FACT /STAT : 

Nobody scores with a header versus Gavin this season - nobody - he is invincible when it comes to headers. That’s quite some stat eh? 

Edited Wednesday at 09:30 by gio1saints

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

No apologies required but here’s a very  very useful stat 😉that really puts into perspective Gavin Bazunu.
There’s been 96 goals conceded in the Championship this season so far ( according to wiki) .

Guess how many Gavin has let in?If you were thinking 25 or 30 of those you’d be wrong!
Yup, get this,  he has only conceded FOUR! Out of 96 in the league! That’s an amazing statistic. Good job Baz! 🤣

4 in 3 games = 61 over the season. Slight improvement on Martins time here but still puts us bottom half for goals conceded most seasons.

 

[LordHester]

18 minutes ago, Turkish said:

4 in 3 games = 61 over the season. Slight improvement on Martins time here but still puts us bottom half for goals conceded most seasons.

 

Yes, because goals conceded are definitely the sole responsibility of the keeper, and not the defenders in front of him; nor the midfielders who lose the ball when too far up the pitch.

[Miltonaggro]

If Still was taking note last night, McCarthy should really start our next game, which will hopefully park this groundhog day thread for a while. 

[benjii]

2 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

If Still was taking note last night, McCarthy should really start our next game, which will hopefully park this groundhog day thread for a while. 

Can't betray the project.

[LuckyNumber7]

42 minutes ago, trousers said:

Interesting if true (cards on the table time: I'm not a championship goalkeeper officionado, hence my curiosity on the subject)

By what measures / stats was he "awful" btw? (not doubting what you say, just genuine interest, as always...)

Meslier is a poor keeper, very error prone, hence why Leeds have ditched him on promotion. In our last Championship season, I believe statistically only Bazunu was worse than him. He does make more saves than Baz though.

It shows you can get promoted with a sub-standard goalkeeper, but you need to be scoring goals at the other end. We did that last time, think we might struggle with that this time around.

[Turkish]

17 minutes ago, LordHester said:

Yes, because goals conceded are definitely the sole responsibility of the keeper, and not the defenders in front of him; nor the midfielders who lose the ball when too far up the pitch.

I didnt say they were. Gio was using his stats to "prove his point", i was using them about mine.

Baz cost us quite a few points last time we were in this league, he won us some points v Stoke but i'm struggling to think of another time he's done that. So lets see if it was a false dawn or not

[igsey]

Not sure where the idea that players can't improve comes from? Yes, Bazunu was poor two season ago, but he's very young for a goalkeeper (a position where players don't peak until into their 30s) and I'm not sure he can be reasonably blamed for anything other than the second Stoke goal so far this season.

I'm not his biggest fan, I'm a bit miffed with Ramsdale for wanting to go and play backup to Pope for a season rather than be the best keeper in the Championship, but I'd rather have Bazunu in goal than Alex "Near Post" McCarthy. Maybe let's try supporting our players rather than constantly go on about how dreadful they are for performances two years ago?