Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[Nolan]

1 hour ago, Andrew Watson said:

Go  on the premier league wage site MLG and you might just retract your statement. Says Aribo on 70k before you nit pick. Remember they are cut in half for the championship. Allegedly.

If you're talking about Capology, they have the clearest of clear disclaimers. 

"All salary figures are estimates and do not represent official figures"

 

[The Kraken]

Probably needs to say which “premier league wage site” is being used for the info, then we can judge how accurate it is (or not).

[BILLYDO]

Question for those with more insight than me( that might be most of you).

Should we be unable to shift those players we would like to see gone and we get promoted, do their wages go automatically back up?

[woodsaint1]

4 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

That's Josh McNamara, who was behind Adli in the U21 pecking order (despite being a couple of years older). His contract is due to expire; don't know if it's been extended or anything.

We'll trade Dibling for three might-be-Fernandeses. They even have their own M. Fernandes (19yo RB, Europa League experience, YHGTI, if Sugawara goes then - competent as Bree is - replacing him would be nice) who would be an obvious pick for one of the three.

Released last week

[Holmes_and_Watson]

17 minutes ago, BILLYDO said:

Question for those with more insight than me( that might be most of you).

Should we be unable to shift those players we would like to see gone and we get promoted, do their wages go automatically back up?

I'd have thought It won't be automatic, as in the club are obligated to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. But contractually, where there are relegation clauses impacting wages, there will be promotion related clauses too, impacting wages to come at a higher level. Not to mention promotion bonuses etc. Whether they go up to exactly the same level is for the club and agent to fight out.

Realistically, clubs keeping players on much lower contracts than the others, due to not having such clauses, or through things like multiple promotions, are going to lose those players, unless there's a renegotiation.

[Andrew Watson]

No it is not Themotherfunky,never been on twitter and do not have controversial opinions,just my own opinions. I do not see others with iffy opinions having them pulled apart,but each to their own I suppose.

[Andrew Watson]

The site was capology Nolan,so I hold my hands up and apologise to MLG and others. For what it is worth do those figures really seem that unrealistic for the premier league,the season just gone.

[The Kraken]

google AI overview of capology.

 

Capology's Premier League salary data is generally considered to be quite accurate, with over 90% of salaries verified, especially after major transfer windows. While the figures are estimates and not official, the site employs a verification process, and the data is updated regularly. 

 

Here's a more detailed look: 

 

• Verification Process:

  Capology has a verification system where they check and confirm the accuracy of the salary information they gather.
• High Verification Rate:

  For the Premier League, a significant portion, over 90%, of the salary data is verified, meaning it's been confirmed as accurate.
• Updates:

  Capology's data is updated, especially after major transfer periods like the summer and January windows, to reflect the latest deals and changes.
• Estimates:

  It's important to remember that while Capology strives for accuracy, the figures are estimates and not official contract details.
• No Distinction for Bonuses:

  Signing bonuses and other performance-based bonuses are not always clearly differentiated in the data, and may be presented as part of the overall salary.

[Andrew Watson]

Thank you The Kraken,still not enough for MLG and others on here though.😀

[Saint86]

On 13/06/2025 at 19:34, Chez said:

Your figures are not quite right.  Total club wages for 2023 were £122m, and in 2024 they were £81m (93.5% of turnover).

Wages for 2025 will have risen a fair amount, but you would imagine not to the 2023 level. However, we offloaded a lot of players and wages when we were relegated. If we don't do that again, the reduction won't be as high. 

Losing KWP, Ramsdale and maybe someone like Bednarek would save a lot.

If capology is accurate, our wages (playing squad) this season is "only" £50M per year:



 

Pretty interesting take away figures. Doesn't take much to imagine us getting Aribo's, Bednarek's, Lallana's, Ugochukwu's, Macca's, Sulemana's, Onuachu's, KWP's, Gronbaek's, ABK's, and Taylor's wages etc. all off the books this summer. Which would free up circa £21M in wages.

[sockeye]

15 hours ago, Saint86 said:

If capology is accurate, our wages (playing squad) this season is "only" £50M per year:



 

Pretty interesting take away figures. Doesn't take much to imagine us getting Aribo's, Bednarek's, Lallana's, Ugochukwu's, Macca's, Sulemana's, Onuachu's, KWP's, Gronbaek's, ABK's, and Taylor's wages etc. all off the books this summer. Which would free up circa £21M in wages.

Fraser on 40k. Jesus that is appalling. £2m lost for sentimentality on just one player. Some of these guys really need to go this summer to free up the wage bill and quite a few can go next summer on a free as well

Edited yesterday at 14:27 by sockeye
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[woodsaint1]

KWP on 20k a week 😂😂 right ok

[Nolan]

Capology is not accurate.

 

8 hours ago, The Kraken said:

google AI overview of capology.

 

 

Capology's Premier League salary data is generally considered to be quite accurate, with over 90% of salaries verified, especially after major transfer windows. While the figures are estimates and not official, the site employs a verification process, and the data is updated regularly. 

 

Here's a more detailed look: 

 

• Verification Process:

  Capology has a verification system where they check and confirm the accuracy of the salary information they gather.
• High Verification Rate:

  For the Premier League, a significant portion, over 90%, of the salary data is verified, meaning it's been confirmed as accurate.
• Updates:

  Capology's data is updated, especially after major transfer periods like the summer and January windows, to reflect the latest deals and changes.
• Estimates:

  It's important to remember that while Capology strives for accuracy, the figures are estimates and not official contract details.
• No Distinction for Bonuses:

  Signing bonuses and other performance-based bonuses are not always clearly differentiated in the data, and may be presented as part of the overall salary.

Worth noting that Ai is often just as Inaccurate as Capology, wiith common recent examples of just making stuff up.

Edited yesterday at 05:53 by Nolan

[Doctoroncall]

24 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Capology is not accurate.

 

Worth noting that Ai is often just as Inaccurate as Capolog, wiith common recent examples of just making stuff up.

Google AI isn’t inaccurate, it’s probably biased and can be misleading without knowing the bias. It’s pulled the data from various sources, as always it’s not up to AI to verify the accuracy of the source data.
 

No idea what capology uses and what verification method (if any) are employed. 

[Saint NL]

6 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

KWP on 20k a week 😂😂 right ok

He needs a better agent if that is true. Christ.

[coalman]

19 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

Google AI isn’t inaccurate, it’s probably biased and can be misleading without knowing the bias. It’s pulled the data from various sources, as always it’s not up to AI to verify the accuracy of the source data.
 

No idea what capology uses and what verification method (if any) are employed. 

Google AI is an LLM and all LLMs have a tendency to make stuff up which is inherent in how they work (LLMs just predict the next word in a sequence). In Google's case they link to the source material the AI used which is also using PageRank to determine credibility. However I would expect Capology to have authority over itself so the AI will just be repeating a version of what Capology says about itself.

[Midfield_General]

47 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

He needs a better agent if that is true. Christ.

He should sign up with whoever got Bednarek 70 grand a week for losing his man and flailing his arms around 

[Saint86]

9 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

KWP on 20k a week 😂😂 right ok

Yeah i saw that - i did start the post with, "if capology is accurate"... i'll leave it for others to die on the hill that it is 😅

[Saint86]

Our PSR reports for last season imply that the total club wage budget for the season was £50M. Which would have included a few months of wages when we were trying to shift high earners out (July/august).

If you look at wages for 24/25 in the championship, leeds are probably fairly comparable to what saints were running at by the end of last season (before prem additions) - so doesn't seem too unreasonable that we're on circa £50-60M in the prem with the current squad?

https://www.planetfootball.com/stats-tables/championship-wage-bill-ranking-2024-25-leeds-burnley-sheffield-united (I'm not vouching for the accuracy of planet football either 😘)

Edited yesterday at 09:31 by Saint86

[hypochondriac]

If accurate, we could conceivably get rid of 7 of our 8 top wage earners this summer. 

[Saint86]

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If accurate, we could conceivably get rid of 7 of our 8 top wage earners this summer. 

Well regardless of accuracy on their actual wage amount, i imagine quite a few of the "high earners" whom most of us wouldn't mind leaving, will in fact be leaving - which is a good thing. Sadly it will probably also include ramsdale. But until that happens, i am going to dream of having fernandes and ramsdale in the side next season 😄

[Danbert]

Details of any players salary will be confidential, in just the same way as other employees' are. No website has accurate information as to what players earn - their guess is as good as ours.

[Pamplemousse]

What methodology does MLG apply when inputting wages into the FM database for our players and staff?

[revolution saint]

This is fascinating stuff.  I think I speak for everyone in asking if we could have a whole new board completely devoted to player wages and reliable websites?

[skintsaint]

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

This is fascinating stuff.  I think I speak for everyone in asking if we could have a whole new board completely devoted to player wages and reliable websites?

As part of setting up our new board, could we have a breakdown of the costs, and amounts earned by individuals, in tabular form? Then we can discuss how accurate those figures seem. 🙂

[Willo of Whiteley]

13 hours ago, Saint86 said:

If capology is accurate, our wages (playing squad) this season is "only" £50M per year:



 

Pretty interesting take away figures. Doesn't take much to imagine us getting Aribo's, Bednarek's, Lallana's, Ugochukwu's, Macca's, Sulemana's, Onuachu's, KWP's, Gronbaek's, ABK's, and Taylor's wages etc. all off the books this summer. Which would free up circa £21M in wages.

Absolutely calling bollocks on some of these ages listed

[Danbert]

Sulemana to Genoa?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-player-wanted-at-all-costs-club-sound-determined-to-get-him/

[Saint Fan CaM]

To be honest I couldn’t give a monkeys toss whether the club saves money getting rid of the high earners - I just want the quality of the overall squad to improve substantially beyond the shitshow we witnessed last season. As a supporter it’s not in my gift to affect the salaries of individual players, so I don’t concern myself with that. If a player is the top earner and gash then I want rid or conversely if the worse player is on a low wage I want rid of said player.

Having said that, if Fraser is on £40k/week that is a big indication of how broken the club has been managerially.

[Saint Fan CaM]

32 minutes ago, Danbert said:

Sulemana to Genoa?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-player-wanted-at-all-costs-club-sound-determined-to-get-him/

Not for £10m - think we’d take £18m with a decent sell-on, which is still a big hit and miles from their valuation.  Trouble is we got royally shafted on the original deal and £10m is nearer his true value.  The thing is, would that £18m allow us to purchase a better player at Championship level? I’m not convinced.

[revolution saint]

4 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not for £10m - think we’d take £18m with a decent sell-on, which is still a big hit and miles from their valuation.  Trouble is we got royally shafted on the original deal and £10m is nearer his true value.  The thing is, would that £18m allow us to purchase a better player at Championship level? I’m not convinced.

I would, and I'm pretty sure 10M would get a better player in the championship than Sulemana but that's mainly because he's set such a low bar.  Shame really as he should have been an excellent player but he's had enough chances. 

[AlexLaw76]

16 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not for £10m - think we’d take £18m with a decent sell-on, which is still a big hit and miles from their valuation.  Trouble is we got royally shafted on the original deal and £10m is nearer his true value.  The thing is, would that £18m allow us to purchase a better player at Championship level? I’m not convinced.

I would be surprised if we rejected £10m, given that would be a small profit on the books 

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, revolution saint said:

I would, and I'm pretty sure 10M would get a better player in the championship than Sulemana but that's mainly because he's set such a low bar.  Shame really as he should have been an excellent player but he's had enough chances. 

Yeah, I’d  agree he’s not exactly set the World alight but I do wonder after the experience of many games and a pre-season with Still, he might start to actually find his way.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

I would be surprised if we rejected £10m, given that would be a small profit on the books 

How would £10m for Sulemana yield a profit?

[Pwoite]

31 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

To be honest I couldn’t give a monkeys toss whether the club saves money getting rid of the high earners - I just want the quality of the overall squad to improve substantially beyond the shitshow we witnessed last season. As a supporter it’s not in my gift to affect the salaries of individual players, so I don’t concern myself with that. If a player is the top earner and gash then I want rid or conversely if the worse player is on a low wage I want rid of said player.

Having said that, if Fraser is on £40k/week that is a big indication of how broken the club has been managerially.

Agreed, but reducing our outgoings is hugely important. Move on Aribo and Bednarek rather than two low earners, and we save £100k pw, £5m pa. That money helps our profits, our sustainability target and potentially frees up more for purchases, so it really does matter.

Also, I didn’t see THB, BBD or Lumley listed. Any reason?

[ErwinK1961]

34 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not for £10m - think we’d take £18m with a decent sell-on, which is still a big hit and miles from their valuation.  Trouble is we got royally shafted on the original deal and £10m is nearer his true value.  The thing is, would that £18m allow us to purchase a better player at Championship level? I’m not convinced.

£18m 😂

[hypochondriac]

49 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not for £10m - think we’d take £18m with a decent sell-on, which is still a big hit and miles from their valuation.  Trouble is we got royally shafted on the original deal and £10m is nearer his true value.  The thing is, would that £18m allow us to purchase a better player at Championship level? I’m not convinced.

You can't be serious? 

[Ekelund24]

32 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

How would £10m for Sulemana yield a profit?

It depend on the length of the contract and how the value is placed on the books compared to that. It looks like he signed a 4 1/2 year contract in January 2023 so would have 8m left on the value so £2m profit

Edited yesterday at 16:04 by Ekelund24

[Midfield_General]

2 hours ago, Danbert said:

Sulemana to Genoa?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-player-wanted-at-all-costs-club-sound-determined-to-get-him/

Got to love these articles. 

Headline: Genoa want Sulemana at all costs

Article: Genoa think €10m is too much 

[Matthew Le God]

5 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

What methodology does MLG apply when inputting wages into the FM database for our players and staff?

It is very tricky to work out! 

I use a range of things...

- media reports 

- club accounts to see total wage bill and work back from that

- Sports Interactive has a lot of football industry contacts who can help with ballpark figures in the online database guidlines that researchers use

- Some researchers work for clubs which helps

Lots of guesswork! Many will be incorrect, but hopefully not by too much. 

Edited yesterday at 16:48 by Matthew Le God

[The Kraken]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

It is very tricky to work out! 

I use a range of things...

- media reports 

- club accounts to see total wage bill and work back from that

- Sports Interactive has a lot of football industry contacts who can help with ballpark figures in the online database guidlines that researchers use

- Some researchers work for clubs which helps

Lots of guesswork! Many will be incorrect, but hopefully not by too much. 

How is releasing individual information like weekly wage not a massive conflict of interest and a breach of GDPR?

[EBS1980]

2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

How would £10m for Sulemana yield a profit?

It would be an accounting profit because his original transfer fee will be amortised across the duration of his contract. 

[Matthew Le God]

13 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

How is releasing individual information like weekly wage not a massive conflict of interest and a breach of GDPR?

Not giving individual wages. Just ballpark numbers for certain roles at different levels of the game. That doesn't break GDPR.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Midfield_General said:

Got to love these articles. 

Headline: Genoa want Sulemana at all costs

Article: Genoa think €10m is too much 

Genoa.

Hope this isn’t on the legacy advice of the scouting team Spors put together there. 

Edited yesterday at 18:45 by Badger

[Dusic]

Kevin Theopile-Catherine has shone at Dinamo Zagreb - could he be of use this coming season?

Probably not but wanted to make use of my 3 daily posts and remembered his name from when he was at Cardiff.

[Obstacle1]

20 hours ago, Saint86 said:

If capology is accurate, our wages (playing squad) this season is "only" £50M per year:



 

Pretty interesting take away figures. Doesn't take much to imagine us getting Aribo's, Bednarek's, Lallana's, Ugochukwu's, Macca's, Sulemana's, Onuachu's, KWP's, Gronbaek's, ABK's, and Taylor's wages etc. all off the books this summer. Which would free up circa £21M in wages.

Unfortunately we've just offered Mccarthy a six year deal

[Willo of Whiteley]

Apologies if I posted this before but I wouldn’t mind seeing some players like this:

GK:
Carl Rushworth - after first team football away from Brighton
Viktor Johansson - can do way better than Stoke, pretty sure he’s one POTS for the last two seasons

DEF:
Max Aarons - seemingly surplus to requirements at Bournemouth
Ashley Phillips - young CB, good season on loan at Stoke from Spurs
Andre Garcia - young promising left back at Reading
Harrison Burrows - never gonna happen but a good solid full back nonetheless

MID:
Lennon Miller - we’ve been linked many times before, lots of promise
Jesuren Rak-Sakyi - tricky winger with previous Championship loan spells, rumoured to have been interested previously

ATT:
Evan Ferguson - not currently wanted at Brighton, lots of promise, likely to be a loan
Marc Guiu - maybe a cheeky loan

I’d like to see us go after players that will be good Championship signings. I can’t imagine many have heard of Quarshie until we signed him or that American lad playing in Germany until the other day.

I think the fanbase needs to be instilled with confidence rather than trying to be clever with untried teenagers.

[Dusic]

33 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I think the fanbase needs to be instilled with confidence rather than trying to be clever with untried teenagers.

Virtually all of the players you listed are teenagers or very slightly older!

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

- Some researchers work for clubs which helps

Still bitter about that video analysts job I see. Not a great look.

[Willo of Whiteley]

5 hours ago, Dusic said:

Virtually all of the players you listed are teenagers or very slightly older!

I agree they’re on the younger side, but they certainly aren’t players that we haven’t heard of, and also players that already have an array of footballing experience for this league or higher.

They're the kind of players rivals will be looking at.