Midfield_General Posted yesterday at 14:41 Posted yesterday at 14:41 23 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: counting down to Wrexham with Baz and Macca in the wings. If we start the season with Baz and Macca on the wings then I think it's fair to say our transfer policy needs work Although playing a goalkeeper on each flank would probably still be more effective than when we had BBD and Armstrong on the wings and no-one in the middle in that U-shape vs. Forest at home last season 1 12
Saint Fan CaM Posted yesterday at 14:46 Posted yesterday at 14:46 1 hour ago, Forester said: You will love this new thing called “Google”…try “what is cost of relegation from Premier League” and report back on your findings….! I’ll give you a clue, read my initial post for a good guide! So you still don’t know. 🙄🤔
Saint Fan CaM Posted yesterday at 14:52 Posted yesterday at 14:52 1 hour ago, Draino76 said: Look, they were all shit last year. If anyone gives us any money for any of them whatsoever, we should count it a a lottery win. Agreed. And if most of them are still starting it’s far from being a lottery win right? 1
West end Saints Posted yesterday at 14:52 Posted yesterday at 14:52 (edited) Just now, Wade Garrett said: He is less shit in a 3 than a 2. He isn’t effective in either formation. If you watched the three play off games, the most important and highest pressure games at the level we are back at - you will have seen a very effective championship player. The most listened to championship podcast had him as the player of the play offs, so not just biased saints fans. He looked out of his depth on prem. I hope we are aiming for a better midfield so he is not a starter. However, to say he wasn't effective in our last championship season is wrong, he played well. Edited yesterday at 15:37 by West end Saints 12
Football Special Posted yesterday at 14:55 Posted yesterday at 14:55 59 minutes ago, imadirtyurchin said: Sure, that’s entirely possible. And to be honest I have the same fears as everyone about the team getting weaker and being replaced by dross. But posting the same negativity day after day doesn’t stop it from happening and just derails the thread from purely transfer news/related. (Not a pop at any particular poster) trying to tell myself as much as anyone else. I think it’s trauma from the last few years coming out… 🤣🤷🏼♂️ Agree, I've got a feeling we'll still get some good loans in 1
Turkish Posted yesterday at 15:23 Posted yesterday at 15:23 If you’re a 21 year old Portuguese guy then no way are you turning down Atheletico Madrid or Juventus to play for West Ham, Palace or Leeds 8
John B Posted yesterday at 15:23 Posted yesterday at 15:23 27 minutes ago, Football Special said: Agree, I've got a feeling we'll still get some good loans in Most top teams in the Championship get in loanees like we did recently
John B Posted yesterday at 15:25 Posted yesterday at 15:25 Just now, Turkish said: If you’re a 21 year old Portuguese guy then no way are you turning down Atheletico Madrid or Juventus to play for West Ham, Palace or Leeds Or Sothampton in The Championsip either 1 2
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 15:27 Posted yesterday at 15:27 1 minute ago, John B said: Or Sothampton in The Championsip either He doesn't have a choice on that one if the club say no. 1 3 1
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 15:27 Posted yesterday at 15:27 1 minute ago, John B said: Or Sothampton in The Championsip either Absolutely. If athletic or jiventus are in for fernandes then our best hope is to rinse them for as much money as we can. Good chance of 50 million plus in that scenario. 2 1
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 15:28 Posted yesterday at 15:28 Just now, Matthew Le God said: He doesn't have a choice on that one if the club say no. Lol.
Turkish Posted yesterday at 15:28 Posted yesterday at 15:28 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: He doesn't have a choice on that one if the club say no. Bless 3
Nolan Posted yesterday at 15:28 Posted yesterday at 15:28 31 minutes ago, Football Special said: Agree, I've got a feeling we'll still get some good loans in I'm not so sure. When House and Blackmore went over to see Solak, Solak said that due to the loans when we were promoted we had to spend millions to stand still. I dont think they want us to be in the same position potentially come May 26
Turkish Posted yesterday at 15:30 Posted yesterday at 15:30 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Absolutely. If athletic or jiventus are in for fernandes then our best hope is to rinse them for as much money as we can. Good chance of 50 million plus in that scenario. Nah we won’t get that much. But it’ll be a great move for him and you wouldn’t blame him. Two great clubs playing in top European leagues and the champions league. Anyone would surely want that move 2
Fabrice29 Posted yesterday at 15:31 Posted yesterday at 15:31 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: He did have a decent season last time but needs to be scoring double figures and similar assists if Still builds around him as Will simply cannot perform in a 2 man central midfield. That is a ridiculously high expectation.
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 15:34 Posted yesterday at 15:34 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Lol. I did not say they would or should say no. But given he is under contract until 2029, if no bid is deemed high enough... then they could. 5 2
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 15:45 Posted yesterday at 15:45 9 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: That is a ridiculously high expectation. That’s top two for you - Taraabt produced it for QPR for example. If he’s asking Shea and Flynn to do his pressing, tackling and intercepting, and a lot of his running which he can’t do in a central two (and we all know this), he has to be regularly winning games as the advanced midfielder if Fernandes goes as expected. Taraabt was an arse but because he delivered the goods and the title, his fellow midfielders could live with it.
Football Special Posted yesterday at 15:47 Posted yesterday at 15:47 17 minutes ago, Nolan said: I'm not so sure. When House and Blackmore went over to see Solak, Solak said that due to the loans when we were promoted we had to spend millions to stand still. I dont think they want us to be in the same position potentially come May 26 Loans are needed to get that level of player in thechampionship, unless you mean don't get promoted then we don't have to spend those millions again
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 15:47 Posted yesterday at 15:47 1 hour ago, Saint86 said: Don't disagree, but equally players can change their game and be coached. Look at JWP under hassenhuttle - added aggression and more of an engine into his game. Smallbone was a good player for us in the championship - not least during the playoffs. I am not against selling him and know he struggles at prem level due to his physicality - but currently we seem likely to sell Fernandes, Edozie, Smallbone, Aribo, and Dibling.... Who exactly are we planning on using as our attacking mids/wingers next season - fraser, AA and Robinson? We've seen one tenuous link to an attacking midfielder that frankly is far above our level, seemingly rejected us, and may be using us for another move or better contract. Fall behind in early august and we're playing catch up all season - and that assumes we manager to get good replacements in for all these players. Hoping we see some positive news on the transfer front soon. The shithousery from JWP to Zaha was classic. It was like watching a wind up device about to go off at any moment. 5
Monk Posted yesterday at 15:49 Posted yesterday at 15:49 CBA to scroll but just seen this... MLG doing his thing in the comments. 2 1
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 15:50 Posted yesterday at 15:50 15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I did not say they would or should say no. But given he is under contract until 2029, if no bid is deemed high enough... then they could. I could get a blowie from Sydney Sweeney pal. 1
sockeye Posted yesterday at 15:55 Posted yesterday at 15:55 Keep BBD and hire a dark arts coach to teach the rest of the squad how to bait opposition players into getting headbutted 1
wild-saint Posted yesterday at 16:09 Posted yesterday at 16:09 39 minutes ago, Turkish said: Bless so do the club let him go for £30m just because he wants to go then? 2
saintant Posted yesterday at 16:15 Posted yesterday at 16:15 24 minutes ago, Monk said: CBA to scroll but just seen this... MLG doing his thing in the comments. Are we collecting centre backs? It's creativity and goal scorers we need plus a goalkeeper. Hope this is clickbait. 1
disconnect Posted yesterday at 16:15 Posted yesterday at 16:15 24 minutes ago, Monk said: CBA to scroll but just seen this... MLG doing his thing in the comments. If we go for this guy (unless Stephens is off) seems pointless to have signed Quarshie, or more likely would mean we're also expecting to lose Harwood-Bellis and at least one of Wood or Edwards.
hypochondriac Posted yesterday at 16:19 Posted yesterday at 16:19 3 minutes ago, disconnect said: If we go for this guy (unless Stephens is off) seems pointless to have signed Quarshie, or more likely would mean we're also expecting to lose Harwood-Bellis and at least one of Wood or Edwards. The more underwhelming defenders we lose the better. I doubt we are in for this guy but if we are and we sack off some of the others then I won't complain. 5
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 16:27 Posted yesterday at 16:27 37 minutes ago, Monk said: CBA to scroll but just seen this... MLG doing his thing in the comments. There was talk of us Wood leaving, and THB is still up in the air if we're honest. This guy is a shoe-in starter in this league. In the right structure I'd rate him in the PL too. 4
Midfield_General Posted yesterday at 16:27 Posted yesterday at 16:27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, saintant said: Are we collecting centre backs? It's creativity and goal scorers we need plus a goalkeeper. Hope this is clickbait. Lots of ifs and buts, but... Bednarek has already left. THB will leave because he doesn't want to play in the Champ. ABK and Taylor will leave (hopefully, if we can find buyers) because we don't want them anymore and will tell them they need to find new clubs. Stephens, Quarshie, Edwards will stay, with Sanda coming up through the ranks. So that's three senior CBs and a prospect. So IF * this was to happen then adding this fella would give us four senior CBs and a prospect which for a season of 46 league matches plus cup games is probably about right, especially if we want to have the option of playing three CBs. Agree it would be weird to sign anyone else in this position until THB, ABK and Taylor are definitely gone though, unless they're very well-advanced in the background and we just don't know it yet. And a move like this would probably mean Wood is on his way out too because if he stays then that would be five seniors and a prospect which I agree is probably too much. (* Because it's just a rumour, I know that MLG) Edited yesterday at 16:31 by Midfield_General 1
saintant Posted yesterday at 16:33 Posted yesterday at 16:33 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: There was talk of us Wood leaving, and THB is still up in the air if we're honest. This guy is a shoe-in starter in this league. In the right structure I'd rate him in the PL too. Yeah, to be fair he looks good in the air, quick, decent on the ball, tackles well and can ping long passes with pin-point accuracy all day long - everything Stephens can't do. 5
Smirking_Saint Posted yesterday at 16:43 Posted yesterday at 16:43 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: I did not say they would or should say no. But given he is under contract until 2029, if no bid is deemed high enough... then they could. Thanks captain obvious 2
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 16:47 Posted yesterday at 16:47 56 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: I could get a blowie from Sydney Sweeney pal. Are you under contract with her until 2029? 3
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 16:50 Posted yesterday at 16:50 59 minutes ago, Monk said: CBA to scroll but just seen this... MLG doing his thing in the comments. I wouldn't take accounts that call themselves "the home of reliable rumours" with only 166 followers seriously. We need to be selling centre backs, not buying more. 1
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 18:00 Posted yesterday at 18:00 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I could get a blowie from Sydney Sweeney pal. Who’s he? 12
Miltonaggro Posted yesterday at 18:07 Posted yesterday at 18:07 2 hours ago, Turkish said: If you’re a 21 year old Portuguese guy then no way are you turning down Atheletico Madrid or Juventus to play for West Ham, Palace or Leeds Then again, I've got it on good authority he loves the new kit and has just bought Juan Larios's toaster.
Miltonaggro Posted yesterday at 18:08 Posted yesterday at 18:08 8 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Who’s he? 5
verlaine1979 Posted yesterday at 18:15 Posted yesterday at 18:15 You can't build a financial model based on recruiting promising youngsters and putting them in the shop window if you refuse to sell when two of the biggest clubs in Europe come calling. Agents just won't let those players come here in future. 7
Chez Posted yesterday at 18:25 Posted yesterday at 18:25 2 hours ago, wild-saint said: so do the club let him go for £30m just because he wants to go then? if he develops a bug and can't make training (I believe thats the standard approach to trying to force a move), aka a "knock", then the club might have to reassess it's pricing policy. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Chez Posted yesterday at 18:30 Posted yesterday at 18:30 19 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: don't fancy yours much. 3
Chez Posted yesterday at 18:33 Posted yesterday at 18:33 15 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: You can't build a financial model based on recruiting promising youngsters and putting them in the shop window if you refuse to sell when two of the biggest clubs in Europe come calling. Agents just won't let those players come here in future. you also can't build a financial model by giving them away for buttons. There always has to be a middle ground. If we are demanding, say, £50m, which is pretty high, that could create a problem. Who knows what the clubs price is though. 1
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 18:58 Posted yesterday at 18:58 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Chez said: Edited yesterday at 18:59 by Wade Garrett Can’t delete it
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 18:59 Posted yesterday at 18:59 44 minutes ago, verlaine1979 said: You can't build a financial model based on recruiting promising youngsters and putting them in the shop window if you refuse to sell when two of the biggest clubs in Europe come calling. Agents just won't let those players come here in future. Then we’re just a player trading organisation. 1
Turkish Posted yesterday at 19:01 Posted yesterday at 19:01 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: Then we’re just a player trading organisation. Which is what SR said we are 1
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 19:05 Posted yesterday at 19:05 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Which is what SR said we are True, there’s not much of a football club pulse there these days. 2
Badger Posted yesterday at 19:13 Posted yesterday at 19:13 1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said: On the topic of Saints next transfer target: “nah,guv, leave ‘im he’s not worfff it ..” 1
Suhari Posted yesterday at 19:24 Posted yesterday at 19:24 54 minutes ago, Chez said: don't fancy yours much. I don't minder. 2 6
trousers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 8 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: What’s the crack with Dibling? Probably discussing with his agent and/or the club how much longer they can string out the usual "he's got a knock" ruse....
Matthew Le God Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 29 minutes ago, trousers said: Probably discussing with his agent and/or the club how much longer they can string out the usual "he's got a knock" ruse.... They’ve given up then, because of he was filmed and photographed in training this week!
hypochondriac Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Genuinely not sure how Dibling is going to engineer a move. I can't see anyone wanting to spend 35 million plus on him abd I don't think we are going to sell cheap. He'd be much better off trying to tear it up in this league with us for a season. 1
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Genuinely not sure how Dibling is going to engineer a move. I can't see anyone wanting to spend 35 million plus on him abd I don't think we are going to sell cheap. He'd be much better off trying to tear it up in this league with us for a season. Ive said all along I can see us keeping one of Fernandes or Dibling UNLESS they make life very uncomfortable for us Either one is likely a huge boon in the Championship, but like you say, think we’re in the driving seat as far as negotiations are concerned, generally Edited 22 hours ago by Smirking_Saint
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