hypochondriac Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Dman said: For me, a 'makeway' for Tom Fellows would be the best option for us. I really rate the bloke. Perfect for us at this level. Agree but I didn't consider that transfer particularly likely. 1
Farmer Saint Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Swap deals don't happen anymore as with PSR it's far better to treat as two separate transactions.
hypochondriac Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Swap deals don't happen anymore as with PSR it's far better to treat as two separate transactions. True but 12 million for Azaz and then BBD going the other way for 5 million effectively makes it 7. 1
BARCELONASAINT Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 16 hours ago, Badger said: Did you say earlier that we had three deals lined up, and one was an exciting one for supporters when announced ? Any idea what became of that ? Apologies if they this wasn’t from you and confused with another post. no name was ever mentioned but i'm guessing the player being referred to is the Armenian guy who IF we do end up signing would appear to be quite the coup.
Convict Colony Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago getting my optimistic head on today Not seen any Armenian or Russian posts today about spets, hopefully something moving.
Stu Man Do Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: getting my optimistic head on today Not seen any Armenian or Russian posts today about spets, hopefully something moving. Sadly reckon this deal is deader than a dead thing. Krasnador seem to have no interest in selling to us and I suspect assume they will be able to convince him to sign a new contract if they can hold on to him before the end of the month. Sure I've seen it mentioned that we've actually offered him a salary less than his current wage albeit with a pay rise if we go up. Shame looks a real talent! 1
Dusic Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: getting my optimistic head on today Not seen any Armenian or Russian posts today about spets, hopefully something moving. The guy on twitter who @ArmenieFootball gets some of his info from is @gotna. He said yesterday that he and some other journalists should be speaking to Spertsyan today so there might be something later. If he is contuining his lines of speaking to the president, still happy at Krasnodar etc then its obviously done. Feels lile he would need to make it publically very clewr he wants to go for there even to be a chance. Interesting that Still had a chance yesterday to say directly that it wasn't happening and he didn't, so they must feel there is some chance perhaps? 1
SaintN14 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago (edited) Still have quite a few that need moving on in the next 10 days or so. Didn't Still say yesterday there would be some movement before the weekend? Presumably one of Edozie or Aribo? Edited 16 hours ago by SaintN14 1
OldNick Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Stu Man Do said: Sadly reckon this deal is deader than a dead thing. Krasnador seem to have no interest in selling to us and I suspect assume they will be able to convince him to sign a new contract if they can hold on to him before the end of the month. Sure I've seen it mentioned that we've actually offered him a salary less than his current wage albeit with a pay rise if we go up. Shame looks a real talent! A bit concerned that all the press hasnt got others knocking on the door!!! If he is so goo then we should be a tad concerned he's not that all!!
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Dusic said: The guy on twitter who @ArmenieFootball gets some of his info from is @gotna. He said yesterday that he and some other journalists should be speaking to Spertsyan today so there might be something later. If he is contuining his lines of speaking to the president, still happy at Krasnodar etc then its obviously done. Feels lile he would need to make it publically very clewr he wants to go for there even to be a chance. Interesting that Still had a chance yesterday to say directly that it wasn't happening and he didn't, so they must feel there is some chance perhaps? He also talked about Kabore when he already knew Roerslev was done so I wouldn’t read anything into his comments.
saintant Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Stu Man Do said: Sadly reckon this deal is deader than a dead thing. Krasnador seem to have no interest in selling to us and I suspect assume they will be able to convince him to sign a new contract if they can hold on to him before the end of the month. Sure I've seen it mentioned that we've actually offered him a salary less than his current wage albeit with a pay rise if we go up. Shame looks a real talent! If true this sounds like madness. 2
Badger Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Stu Man Do said: Sure I've seen it mentioned that we've actually offered him a salary less than his current wage albeit with a pay rise if we go up. Shame looks a real talent! 5 minutes ago, saintant said: If true this sounds like madness. Not necessarily. We're probably looking to operate within an existing wage structure, and any apparent shortfall in wages from his current salary could easily be made up by a generous signing on fee. If we don't go up, then if he lives up to billing he probably won't be here next season. Everton and West Ham will start the bidding at £2m after the last ball is kicked in 2025/26 season. 1
Oisin Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 43 minutes ago, SaintN14 said: Still have quite a few that need moving on in the next 10 days or so. Didn't Still say yesterday there would be some movement before the weekend? Presumably one of Edozie or Aribo? As far as I can work out, a lot hinges on who we shift. Obviously there’s Tyler and Fernandes, but you’d imagine Edozie, Aribo, Taylor, one of Suga or Bree, probably BBD and Smallbone, possibly Wood (maybe on loan), Nico Lawrence at least on loan, maybe loans for a Bragg or (less likely) Sesay. And you’d think we’d consider bids for THB, ArmA, Archer, Downes, McCarthy and Manning if someone wanted any of them and were prepared to pay the right fee. Almost anything could still happen so I’m pretty relaxed about the state of the incomings. You can’t buy 10 players and risk having a squad of 35-40 without knowing what you’ve sold. Should we somehow keep Tyler and Fernandes, I reckon we need 1 winger and a 3rd choice keeper and that’s pretty much it. Of course I’d like a better keeper and a proper number 9, plus a proper number 10 if I was being super greedy. But we’d have a good enough squad to mount a proper title challenge if that was it IMHO. 1
CSA96 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 55 minutes ago, SaintN14 said: Still have quite a few that need moving on in the next 10 days or so. Didn't Still say yesterday there would be some movement before the weekend? Presumably one of Edozie or Aribo? He did mention movement before the end of the week, but not sure if that was Roerslev or more specific to some outgoings. I felt at the start of the week that we'd sign five more before the window shuts - those five being: first choice RB, two wingers (one buy, one loan), a No. 10 and a backup GK - and I still feel like that's a realistic return 1
HarvSFC Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago The old recruiters used to love a left-back. We signed two last summer in Taylor and Wellington when we already had Manning, Larios and Meghoma (left on deadline day) at the club. All five signed in the last three years as well. Maybe the new ones love a right-back and we're going to sign Kabore as well? 😂 Doubt it will happen now, but I was a fan of the Kabore link. Fits the profile of being athletic, good going forward and has the potential to grow with us and become a Premier League right-back, as he didn't look too bad at Luton a few years back. But, maybe he was too expensive, and we're trying to avoid too many loans this window.
benjii Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 16 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: The old recruiters used to love a left-back. We signed two last summer in Taylor and Wellington when we already had Manning, Larios and Meghoma (left on deadline day) at the club. All five signed in the last three years as well. Maybe the new ones love a right-back and we're going to sign Kabore as well? 😂 Doubt it will happen now, but I was a fan of the Kabore link. Fits the profile of being athletic, good going forward and has the potential to grow with us and become a Premier League right-back, as he didn't look too bad at Luton a few years back. But, maybe he was too expensive, and we're trying to avoid too many loans this window. If there is interest in Bree and Suga and we can get a fair price, then signing another right back is a possibility. 2
CSA96 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Alfie House reporting that Everton and Saints are now close to an agreement for Tyler Dibling 1
Saint Matty 76 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Reading like £42m and 20% sell-on. Edited 13 hours ago by Saint Matty 76
S-Clarke Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Alfie House reporting that Everton and Saints are now close to an agreement for Tyler Dibling I assume the 'bidding war' brewing has pushed them to get this completed sooner rather than later, fully on our terms I'd assume. I always felt this was likely to happen. Be interesting to see who we target to replace him, clubs will know we're totally loaded now. The next 10 days are going to be nuts. Edited 13 hours ago by S-Clarke 3
CSA96 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago David Ornstein saying £40m+ and then a 20% cut of whatever the next fee is whenever Dibling leaves Everton 2
spyinthesky Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Just now, Farmer Saint said: Feels like we won that stand off then. I think we must have blinked first. £100m became £50m now £40m. Having said that I dont think it is a bad deal and hopefully provides funds to keep us competitive. I understood that the club preferred to lose Dibling but keep Fernandes, especially with Robinson looking a decent player in the offing 3
LegalEagle Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Reading like £42m and 20% sell-on. Where is Coastal? Tell Mr Moyes from us that he’s been a good boy by coming up to the asking price. 3
Farmer Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, spyinthesky said: I think we must have blinked first. £100m became £50m now £40m. Having said that I dont think it is a bad deal and hopefully provides funds to keep us competitive. I understood that the club preferred to lose Dibling but keep Fernandes, especially with Robinson looking a decent player in the offing Where did £100m come from???? 1
S-Clarke Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Where did £100m come from???? There was a crazy media story at the start of the window which said we put a £100m price tag on him, as we valued him at close to Grealish or something daft. I don't think that came from the club though, weird rumour. Edited 13 hours ago by S-Clarke 1
LegalEagle Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Big gamble by Everton. He’s proved nothing yet and the jury is still out as to whether he’ll be a top player. Great business from us especially with Robinson as a ready made replacement. Now let’s get this Armenian chap in. Give their Chairman a large brown envelope and it will happen. 5
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Reading like £42m and 20% sell-on. No way they can afford him in league one 2 14
Convict Colony Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Just now, Smirking_Saint said: No way they can afford him in league one hahahaha i read it like that as well. 3
ErwinK1961 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Pretty good deal to be fair, credit where it’s due to the club for that one. Will be interesting to see how he gets on… hope for his sake he kicks on now and fulfils his potential. Going to be a lot of pressure on him early with that fee. Lets hope we spend it wisely (for a change). 2
HarvSFC Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I think we'd have all taken Dibling as the big sale to reinvest in the squad this summer and if it gives us a better chance of keeping Fernandes. There's still a lot of question marks over Dibling following his end of season form, better players have not met their potential, etc. Or better yet, he becomes a superstar and gets sold on, and this time we don't trade the sell on for Everton's version of Tommy Forecast. Plus his contract situation, which Dibling had no intention of signing an extension to didn't help from our side. Pure profit, so helps with PSR. Sold for more than Sunderland got for Jobe Bellingham this summer and we've seen their spending power this summer. Key thing is now we don't waste the money as we have done so much of in recent history. Use this for Still to get his required squad and win promotion. Up the Saints. 8
CB Fry Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, Stu Man Do said: Sure I've seen it mentioned that we've actually offered him a salary less than his current wage albeit with a pay rise if we go up. You've seen it. It is obviously utter bullshit from the Russian side who are trying to make out we are too small time for their golden boy. We will be paying names like Aribo more than the Armenian is on now. Edited 12 hours ago by CB Fry 2
Saint Scott Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Fuck off then Tyler, you ungrateful shit. Went to London and couldn't hack it. I suspect he will fall into the abyss in Liverpool. Good luck Edited 12 hours ago by Saint Scott 5 7 2
sfc4prem Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Fuck off then Tyler, you ungrateful shit. Went to London and couldn't hack it. I suspect he will fall into the abyss in Liverpool. Good luck Not quite how I see things, but I'll leave you to that animosity. 5
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago When was their first bid? Surely not until after Fabrizio says the personal terms were agreed… 1
Saint Scott Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Not quite how I see things, but I'll leave you to that animosity. Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years
Gloucester Saint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years Care to elaborate?
sfc4prem Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years Ooh, tell me more!
lambtiss Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years Which is?
Scoobysaint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Fuck off then Tyler, you ungrateful shit. Went to London and couldn't hack it. I suspect he will fall into the abyss in Liverpool. Good luck That’s one perspective. I prefer to be a little more positive and appreciate he has made us £40+ million that we wouldn’t have got if he hadn’t come back from Chelsea. If he is a success, we will get more profit. He wasn’t signing a new deal so surely this is the best for all parties. the key is where we spend the money. No point frittering it away on players with four year contracts who can’t cut it in the Prem. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years Go on then
OneMrsWallace Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Reading like £42m and 20% sell-on. Don't care what Reading like - what have Everton got. 1
Toussaint Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years I’m really not bothered what the “inside track” is. Good for him, good for us. £40 million plus sell on is fantastic business, it may finance our promotion. We don’t know if his potential is ever going to be realised, if it is then we will it seems benefit from that. I also don’t think getting the crap kicked out of him every week would be good for him and one final point, what would have been achieved by forcing a player to stay against his will and then having to let him go for a fraction of what we will get now? Edited 12 hours ago by Toussaint 1
LeBizzier69 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Great deal for the club for a player who is just promising at this stage. If it means we keep MF too then it’s even better. 2
Saint Scott Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 12 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Ooh, tell me more! Read between the lines. He's been very poorly advised
lambtiss Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Because you don't have the inside track of the last 3 years 3 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Great news 👏 1
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