Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[Gingeletiss]

2 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I’d take Daniel Farke if Leeds don’t want him.

Does he not play Russball.

[Lighthouse]

40 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said:

MP, but that’s never going to happen in a million years. 

Joey Barton, and I’m not joking would shake things up big style and is what we need. Especially with the skates games. Was great for Bristol Rovers, even though he divided the fans. 
 

But long term not the way forward I know. I would love to see Joey have a go in the Championship with us. 
 

Ralph for me perfect sensible return. Calm knows what he is doing and the club, and refreshed. 
 

I hope we don’t go Rohl, Lampard, ect etc etc, just wrong choices again.

I just know I am getting pelters for JB suggestion, but Championship football one season to get back up, teach SR a few home truths. A perfect fit ?

I’ve no idea what you even think those sentences mean.

[Willo of Whiteley]

9 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said:

Does he not play Russball.

He attacks teams at speed, likes a wide player with pace and a target man in the middle.

I don’t get why people wouldn’t consider Daniel Farke if Leeds parted company. He’s always done a good job at the top end of the Championship. 

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

He attacks teams at speed, likes a wide player with pace and a target man in the middle.

I don’t get why people wouldn’t consider Daniel Farke if Leeds parted company. He’s always done a good job at the top end of the Championship. 

And was defeated by so-called ‘Russball’ on all three occasions when he faced it.

[ApprenticeBillionaire]

46 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said:

 

Joey Barton, and I’m not joking would shake things up big style and is what we need. Especially with the skates games. Was great for Bristol Rovers, even though he divided the fans. 

Yeah I'd love to have a racist, mysoginistic fucking lunatic with sizeable mummy issues in charge here.

[tdmickey3]

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

 

 

 

Relax... apparently monitoring him for the future if he does well.

 

 

What an utter bunch of imbeciles we have here at SFC, who in their right mind interviews someone for the future instead of giving total focus on next season after one of the biggest shitfests ever seen in the premier league.

SR really are a group of utter fuckwits, we are in for a very rude awakening, if we have not had a big enough one after the Martin inspired omnishambles we have endured.

They really need to fuck off

[HarvSFC]

If they want Ramsay, give him to Goztepe/Valenciennes to prove himself. Not Southampton. Thought that was the point of this multi-club model.

[Miltonaggro]

23 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

Yeah I'd love to have a racist, mysoginistic fucking lunatic with sizeable mummy issues in charge here.

At least he's not Welsh!

[Matthew Le God]

17 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

What an utter bunch of imbeciles we have here at SFC, who in their right mind interviews someone for the future instead of giving total focus on next season after one of the biggest shitfests ever seen in the premier league.

SR really are a group of utter fuckwits, we are in for a very rude awakening, if we have not had a big enough one after the Martin inspired omnishambles we have endured.

They really need to fuck off

Is future planning not a sensible thing to do? It has no impact on them being able to interview other people.

[miserableoldgit]

12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Is future planning not a sensible thing to do? It has no impact on them being able to interview other people.

No we don't want any of that there future plannin' nonsense........t'aint natural.......

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, Saint Gifford said:

MP, but that’s never going to happen in a million years. 

Joey Barton, and I’m not joking would shake things up big style and is what we need. Especially with the skates games. Was great for Bristol Rovers, even though he divided the fans. 
 

But long term not the way forward I know. I would love to see Joey have a go in the Championship with us. 
 

Ralph for me perfect sensible return. Calm knows what he is doing and the club, and refreshed. 
 

I hope we don’t go Rohl, Lampard, ect etc etc, just wrong choices again.

I just know I am getting pelters for JB suggestion, but Championship football one season to get back up, teach SR a few home truths. A perfect fit ?
 

 

Great fishing expedition 😂

[Willo of Whiteley]

48 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

And was defeated by so-called ‘Russball’ on all three occasions when he faced it.

So who would you take between Daniel Farke and Danny Rohl if offered the choice?

[Willo of Whiteley]

17 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Is future planning not a sensible thing to do? It has no impact on them being able to interview other people.

Yep. Because that’s worked so well for SR so far at Southampton, two relations on the CV, disjointed fanbase, now a high manager turnover. 😂

[tdmickey3]

43 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Is future planning not a sensible thing to do? It has no impact on them being able to interview other people.

Not in our situation.

Utterly pointless at this moment in time 

[Lighthouse]

29 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

So who would you take between Daniel Farke and Danny Rohl if offered the choice?

Farke would probably do a decent enough job but I’d be curious to see if Rohl had a higher ceiling, personally. As it happens, I don’t think the former willing be sacked by Leeds, so it’s rather a moot point.

[Matthew Le God]

38 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Yep. Because that’s worked so well for SR so far at Southampton, two relations on the CV, disjointed fanbase, now a high manager turnover. 😂

Why is future planning not a sensible thing to do?

[Matthew Le God]

12 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Not in our situation.

Utterly pointless at this moment in time 

How does it negatively impact the club to plan for the future?

[Roo1976]

17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Farke would probably do a decent enough job but I’d be curious to see if Rohl had a higher ceiling, personally. As it happens, I don’t think the former willing be sacked by Leeds, so it’s rather a moot point.

Apart from what manager do we want ,what about the manager thinking what sort of squad and backing would i inherit?...could i turn their performances around?

[Lighthouse]

16 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

Apart from what manager do we want, what about the manager thinking what sort of squad and backing would i inherit?...could i turn their performances around?

The vast majority of managers in the Championship and below would want to come to Saints and manage the squad we are likely to have next season. That isn't going to be an issue.

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why is future planning not a sensible thing to do?

It might help to fix the present now, otherwise we’ll continue to make the future harder to recover from. Fair?

[Willo of Whiteley]

39 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

The vast majority of managers in the Championship and below would want to come to Saints and manage the squad we are likely to have next season. That isn't going to be an issue.

The squad isn’t terrible including the players loaned out.

We should be one of, if not, the strongest squad as of June 1st.

What will be interesting is which managers will hold as much interest if they were told that, say, Ramsdale, THB, Fernandes, Dibling and Archer will definitely be leaving.

It also depends on what constraints there are going to be for incoming players.

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

What will be interesting is which managers will hold as much interest if they were told that, say, Ramsdale, THB, Fernandes, Dibling and Archer will definitely be leaving.

The first four are definitely leaving. I don't know why anyone on here is pretending that it is even a debate. Any manager coming in is also going to understand that.

Archer I have no idea why you have grouped him in with the others. A season in the Championship is what he needs but if Leeds or a promoted SUFC want him, see you later.

We will have an excellent squad for the Championship next season and we will be attractive to potential managers. But it doesn't all depend on Aaron Ramsdale leaving. Of course he's leaving.

Edited Sunday at 18:59 by CB Fry

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Yep. Because that’s worked so well for SR so far at Southampton, two relations on the CV, disjointed fanbase, now a high manager turnover. 😂

Updating fans on the managerial vacancy, technical director Johannes "chuckles" Spors said "Following extensive reviews of the club's processes, the first task is clearly to minimise the lurch between managerial changes.

We, at SR, are committed to burning through 3 managers a season. That's the left field SR way. If you don't succeed, repeat the same doomed process. Gone will be the uncertainty of which system we will be lurching to!

By hiring one head coach, but paying a retainer, for first option, on 2 others with different requirements, we can seamlessly bring in coaches to deal with our bloated, yet incomplete, squad."

When asked if the time saved with this innovation could allow for a fourth manager in a season, Spors eyes lit up, and he raced back into the building juggling on his unicycle.

[Graffito]

Without a coherent strategy and way better recruitment they may as well get Jimmy Twizzle. 

[goodymatt]

I don’t have a problem with Spors interviewing whoever he wants, provided he ultimately makes a good appointment.

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

The first four are definitely leaving. I don't know why anyone on here is pretending that it is even a debate. Any manager coming in is also going to understand that.

Archer I have no idea why you have grouped him in with the others. A season in the Championship is what he needs but if Leeds or a promoted SUFC want him, see you later.

We will have an excellent squad for the Championship next season and we will be attractive to potential managers. But it doesn't all depend on Aaron Ramsdale leaving. Of course he's leaving.

I don't think its definite that they'll all leave. Long contracts in most cases and saints should be in a reasonably strong financial position this time around. At the very least, we can play a game of "put up or shut up" with regards to transfer fees for all of them - so if we do sell THB, Ramsdale etc at a profit then happy days frankly. The exception is dibling, where we will largely be forced to sell under any decent offer due to his contract.

I think relegation wage clauses, last season's profit, 2 years now of paying down that  loan substantially, and this season's access to the enhanced tv monies, should all stand us in a far better stead than after the 22-23 relegation at any rate. Pretty comfortable that we'll get decent money for our better players - it will just come down to how well we reinvest it.

Edited Sunday at 19:20 by Saint86

[saint michael]

I think we all know the long term strategy:

buy cheap sell big

buy young sell on potential 

buy in managers similar to player strategy 

Create PR that saints are innovative and leading development 

Do minimum to keep the club on even keel with aim of upward trend 

if it’s not broken… keep breaking it

make football the byproduct of our great long term money generating strategy 

Tell the fans how great they are, overcharge them to watch shyte and keep bathing them in warm showers…

 

..

 there we go now we can concentrate on the first step of our journey hiring a manager that fits this story..

 sorry strategy 

[tdmickey3]

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

How does it negatively impact the club to plan for the future?

I didn't say it did, BUT it takes focus away from sorting the SR shitshow

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, goodymatt said:

I don’t have a problem with Spors interviewing whoever he wants, provided he ultimately makes a good appointment.

That's it in a nutshell but if he is swayed or ordered to continue with SR's stupid philosophy he wont

[Matthew Le God]

7 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

I didn't say it did, BUT it takes focus away from sorting the SR shitshow

How does it take focus away? Other candidates can still be interviewed.

[ally_uk]

I'd take Rohl or Will Still 

[trousers]

7 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

And was defeated by so-called ‘Russball’ on all three occasions when he faced it.

My memory might be playing tricks on me, but in the two regulation league games against Leeds, my recollection is that Martin deviated from "Russball" in an attempt to arrest a run of defeats in the preceding games (i.e. following 4 concurrent defeats in September and 3 concurrent defeats in April), and we also played more pragmatic football in the play-off final... So it could be argued that Farke never faced pure "Russball" in any of the 3 games Leeds played us last season...

Edited Sunday at 22:25 by trousers

[Dark Munster]

On 26/04/2025 at 08:40, Matthew Le God said:

 

If true, that has Rasmus’ fingerprints all over it. 

[Saint Billy]

11 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

The vast majority of managers in the Championship and below would want to come to Saints and manage the squad we are likely to have next season. That isn't going to be an issue.

How does anyone know what squad we are likely to have?. If it's anything resembling the current squad I would suggest that any decent manager would leg it as fast as possible.

[pimpin4rizeal]

On 26/04/2025 at 17:48, Wade Garrett said:

Not Rusk.  Absolutely fucking clueless today.

Rusk has been a improvement over Martin and juric .. again we defended well for the majority of the match I think he’s done well when you look at the context of how shit we was before him  ..you can’t expect miracles though with this bunch of players .. we could have klopp in charge and still lose every week 

[pimpin4rizeal]

On 26/04/2025 at 17:48, Wade Garrett said:

Not Rusk.  Absolutely fucking clueless today.

Rusk has been a improvement over Martin and juric .. again we defended well for the majority of the match I think he’s done well when you look at the context of how shit we was before him  ..you can’t expect miracles though with this bunch of players .. we could have klopp in charge and still lose every week 

[tdmickey3]

10 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

How does it take focus away? Other candidates can still be interviewed.

I will let you see if you can work it out but as you would argue that black is white, I don't care 

[Nolan]

7 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

If true, that has Rasmus’ fingerprints all over it. 

I don't agree, Spors said back in his interviews in March it was his job to keep up to date with current and emerging managers.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Rusk has been a improvement over Martin and juric .. again we defended well for the majority of the match I think he’s done well when you look at the context of how shit we was before him  ..you can’t expect miracles though with this bunch of players .. we could have klopp in charge and still lose every week 

I don’t agree. It was all last-ditch stuff which was only ever going to end one way, which it did. Constantly being on the defence tires the players out mentally as well as physically and eventually they make mistakes.

Emile Smith Rowe ran into the same gap in our defence that Ollie Watkins found for Villa. If you watch the goal again you will see that we have at least four defenders there who could have tracked his run yet they all leave it to each other. Bednarek realises too late and dives in only to deflect the ball into goal.

It’s a classic case of ‘too many cooks’ getting in each other’s way. Five at the back is an abomination.

[Give it to Ron]

15 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

How does it negatively impact the club to plan for the future?

SR are masters of planning for the future.

Selles, Jones, Russball then Juric all planned for the future most with different football styles!

I expect you will come back with a Spors  comment but he will probably be gone within 12 months (Wilcox/Shields lasted how long)if can turn this shower around poached by bigger fish and not from down M27!

The article I read did say he is not likely to be appointed and football changes so quickly we will have a whole new board anyway by the time he is no longer the next Poundland Pep.

Edited Monday at 08:20 by Give it to Ron

[E_H_Saints]

10 hours ago, ally_uk said:

I'd take Rohl or Will Still 

I think Will Still has more to prove and although a gamble it would be worth taking, so although controversial I think he would feel he has just as much to lose as Saints if not more. He wants to be a big manager, he has earned the respect of many for what he has already done but needs to prove he can do it in England if he wants to one day manage a 'Big Club'.  Personally he could take less risk than taking on Saints as we need a complete rebuild.  But I think his desire to prove himself and eagerness to be the next big thing could only work in our favour until he becomes too big for us but hopefully by the time he does that we are a better complete team.  Whereas Rohl has a reputation regardless of what happens and in someways has an excuse for his shortcomings coming into the role.  (club falling apart etc) I am not convinced he has the same all or nothing pressure that Sill has but obviously this is my opinion.

[leesaint88]

6 minutes ago, E_H_Saints said:

I think Will Still has more to prove and although a gamble it would be worth taking, so although controversial I think he would feel he has just as much to lose as Saints if not more. He wants to be a big manager, he has earned the respect of many for what he has already done but needs to prove he can do it in England if he wants to one day manage a 'Big Club'.  Personally he could take less risk than taking on Saints as we need a complete rebuild.  But I think his desire to prove himself and eagerness to be the next big thing could only work in our favour until he becomes too big for us but hopefully by the time he does that we are a better complete team.  Whereas Rohl has a reputation regardless of what happens and in someways has an excuse for his shortcomings coming into the role.  (club falling apart etc) I am not convinced he has the same all or nothing pressure that Sill has but obviously this is my opinion.

I tend to agree, I think Still would overall be a better fit for us and I have a feeling Rohl is Leipzig bound anyway..

[Window Cleaner]

2 hours ago, leesaint88 said:

I tend to agree, I think Still would overall be a better fit for us and I have a feeling Rohl is Leipzig bound anyway..

Right now Lens are a bigger club than Saints.

 

[Lighthouse]

6 hours ago, Saint Billy said:

How does anyone know what squad we are likely to have?. If it's anything resembling the current squad I would suggest that any decent manager would leg it as fast as possible.

Even after the expected departures, we’ll still have one of the better Championship squads, compared to everyone else in that league. With some decent player recruitment we should be in the playoffs as a minimum, with the right man in charge.

[sockeye]

Rohl still makes the most sense to me out of the likely options. Prior experience at the club and with a relatively successful recent manager, familiar with some current and ex-club players as well as a connection to our current DoF, and a pragmatic style that fits the club's DNA. Get it done Saints. Do not haggle over half a million of compensation. In case Rohl is a poor fit, not getting back up first season down is far from the end of the world.

Edited Monday at 11:40 by sockeye

[woodsaint1]

15 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

Right now Lens are a bigger club than Saints.

 

If it is true that he has met with Spors to discuss the job, then it would appear that he is open to the move, as opposed to shutting it down. While Lens will be a bigger club atm, getting us promoted and managing in the PL will be very appealing compared to continuing in Ligue 1.

Should add that his Lens team got pumped 4-0 at the weekend at home

[coalman]

SR need to choose a manager they can commit to for a period of time (or until Spurs poach them). Future planning is knowing who you're going to look at next but if the list is of the quality of the last 4 appointments we're going to struggle. Russell Martin, for all his faults, was the closest we've got to someone we might stick with. The downside was he simply wasn't ready for the Premier League and had zero intention of adapting or being pragmatic. Since SR came in, it's been a horror show of poor recruitment both at manager and player level.

This summer we'll begin to get an idea whether Spors might be the answer to this though next year whatever we do will be somewhat flattered by the league we're playing in.

[bangkoksaint]

If the rumours we’re up for sale are true then I’ll expect Rusk to be in charge by the time next season starts.

[OldNick]

4 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

If the rumours we’re up for sale are true then I’ll expect Rusk to be in charge by the time next season starts.

It is typical of our owners to put us up for sale when we are not as interesting as we would have been this time last season.

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, bangkoksaint said:

If the rumours we’re up for sale are true then I’ll expect Rusk to be in charge by the time next season starts.

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