Will Still

[goodymatt]

8 minutes ago, trousers said:

Agree that Martin should only take partial blame for the recruitment side of things but the one significant thing that you missed out, for which Martin shoulders full blame for, is sticking with a playing philosophy that was never going to work (in the Premier League) with such a mediocre squad. Not getting good enough players through the door is one thing, but then expecting them to play in a way that they weren't capable of (in the Premier League), a persisting with it regardless, was an even bigger faux pas, in my humble opinion.

Agree on the philosophy and stubbornness, I did make a similar point on the Martin thread. That is the reason we ended up battling Derby’s record. The recruitment is why we had no chance of survival. At Championship level though, it did work most of the time. The question is would it have worked again. Perhaps not after the season we have had and how that affects the players and fans belief in it.

[goodymatt]

32 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I don't think anyone can really come to any conclusion yet, we know little about him.

I'd suggest that Still has more higher level experience, I know people class the french league as low, but he still has experience of managing against the likes of Mbappe, Veratti, Messi and the likes. He managed against, and with, a much higher calibre of player than Martin ever has in my opinion.

Rohl was probably my pick because of his experience at the level we're at, and also his experience at high profile clubs, but he was obviously umming and erring and we didn't really have time to piss around. Leicester don't have time either, but they seemingly are pissing around as they've still got a manager in place that they want to sack. 

Martin got lucky with promotion last time, we were no more than a playoff team under him which is pretty naff given the ability we had at this level - when compared to Ipswich. So, I wouldn't say that if he was in charge of us we'd be in a much stronger place. We'd probably get rid of him mid-season after we sit level with Swansea and 30 goals conceded mid-season.

I'm intrigued to see what Still can bring. We'll know the answer this time next year I guess, but I don't think we should ever look back on regret hoping that we'd kept Martin.

Agree that it is very hard to assess. Will Still could in theory completely flop but I think that’s unlikely. Automatic promotion should be the target and that is going to be a big ask. Like Martin experienced there is going to be a lot of change and I’m sure there will be bumps in the road.

Rohl has 18m experience managing in the championship but no experience of fighting for promotion (neither did Martin as a manager until us). Keeping Wednesday up was a fantastic achievement the year we got promoted but there’s a similar risk feeling around him for me. He’s been in a circus with that club but he has showed his real personality towards the end of last season.

The other thing on Will Still is he doesn’t seem to hang around anywhere long, so building for medium to long term with him seems unlikely. The same would have been said about Rohl. Still has managed at a higher level and that is most encouraging.

On whether Martin was lucky to get promoted, I think we finished 4th but we were expected to finish 3rd and got promoted anyway. I think you need over 90 most seasons for autos, that number is rising more due to yo-yo-ing of the same clubs. But finishing above Leicester and Leeds wasn’t really expected so it was always most likely going to be playoffs. He beat Leeds all 3 times we played them and got us up, I wouldn’t say that was all luck. He delivered on the target and in the main it was an entertaining ride. Sadly the same cannot be said for the PL experience that followed.

[Doctoroncall]

Martin did the job in the championship, he turned things around and perhaps games were coming too fast but I think he relied on the quality of the players to win games when things were not going well tactically. 
 

He managed the playoffs really well. 
 

Still comes across better able to manage a game and players in all aspects. 

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

5 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

The other thing on Will Still is he doesn’t seem to hang around anywhere long, so building for medium to long term with him seems unlikely. The same would have been said about Rohl.

 

6 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

He delivered on the target and in the main it was an entertaining ride

In an ideal world, we want a manager who gets us promoted and then stays with us and helps us build a competitive premier league team. These types of managers are rare, though I just get the feeling that Still is more of a longer term prospect than Rohl.

The target has to be automatic promotion. Given just one of our £20m players costs more than some of the championship club's entire squads, we should be right in the mix. I like Still's talk. He seems to favour an aggressive, adaptive style and I am looking forward to the forthcoming season. Two years ago, it was different. Yes, the ride was entertaining but mainly because there was the Wembley experience and the West Brom games. Martin got lucky and his style was particularly dire. I remember going to Blackburn & Huddersfield and seeing such negative tactics and thinking what's going on, we should be beating these teams 4/5-0?

 

[goodymatt]

23 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

 

In an ideal world, we want a manager who gets us promoted and then stays with us and helps us build a competitive premier league team. These types of managers are rare, though I just get the feeling that Still is more of a longer term prospect than Rohl.

The target has to be automatic promotion. Given just one of our £20m players costs more than some of the championship club's entire squads, we should be right in the mix. I like Still's talk. He seems to favour an aggressive, adaptive style and I am looking forward to the forthcoming season. Two years ago, it was different. Yes, the ride was entertaining but mainly because there was the Wembley experience and the West Brom games. Martin got lucky and his style was particularly dire. I remember going to Blackburn & Huddersfield and seeing such negative tactics and thinking what's going on, we should be beating these teams 4/5-0?

 

The ideal is that Will Still does get us promoted at the first attempt and then builds with us. More likely to be poached if we go up and don’t survive again but let’s hope he is invested in the project for longer than a season or two, assuming he lives up to the hype.

I’m still not buying Martin just got lucky. We made playoffs as expected and didn’t lose to a single side in those playoff places all season. It was a deserved promotion in the end, playoffs were managed very well. Beating Leeds 3 times that season was impressive.

I do agree that when the style wasn’t working it was a bad watch, Blackburn in particular was a terrible performance (I was also there), but the results the previous game week did leave players and fans believing autos was gone and the performance on the pitch reflected that, as unprofessional as that is/was.

Edited June 6 by goodymatt

[Mr X]

44 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

The ideal is that Will Still does get us promoted at the first attempt and then builds with us. More likely to be poached if we go up and don’t survive again but let’s hope he is invested in the project for longer than a season or two, assuming he lives up to the hype.

I’m still not buying Martin just got lucky. We made playoffs as expected and didn’t lose to a single side in those playoff places all season. It was a deserved promotion in the end, playoffs were managed very well. Beating Leeds 3 times that season was impressive.

I do agree that when the style wasn’t working it was a bad watch, Blackburn in particular was a terrible performance (I was also there), but the results the previous game week did leave players and fans believing autos was gone and the performance on the pitch reflected that, as unprofessional as that is/was.

In hindsight we should have maybe stuck with him as juric appointment was absolutely pointless by that point not sure what juric was all about or why! Martin was definitely in a rut though what was it one point in 15 games? I think it was his insistance on not even trying a plan B when plan A was clearly failing. It was good when it worked but his style sucks the life out of how the game should be played, risky passes for possessions sake and not much more

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

 

In an ideal world, we want a manager who gets us promoted and then stays with us and helps us build a competitive premier league team. These types of managers are rare, though I just get the feeling that Still is more of a longer term prospect than Rohl.

The target has to be automatic promotion. Given just one of our £20m players costs more than some of the championship club's entire squads, we should be right in the mix. I like Still's talk. He seems to favour an aggressive, adaptive style and I am looking forward to the forthcoming season. Two years ago, it was different. Yes, the ride was entertaining but mainly because there was the Wembley experience and the West Brom games. Martin got lucky and his style was particularly dire. I remember going to Blackburn & Huddersfield and seeing such negative tactics and thinking what's going on, we should be beating these teams 4/5-0?

 

See that’s a problem - cost is not necessarily the same as value. A £20m player can be priced as such because of a number of factors. And there are times when we’ve arguably had our pants pulled down in terms of player cost - e.g. Sulemana @ circa £20m. Then if the main positive attributes of said player do not match the job he’s required to execute then value is diminished and if that is duplicated across various areas, team cohesion is shot.

I bet we’ll see Championship clubs with a much lower priced squad, but holistically fitness is at a peak and the players are invested in the manager whose system suits that key attribute of the team. We will lose at least once to a ‘lower priced’ team like this and be left blaming various factors like ‘crisp packet hands’ etc, but VALUE will largely get forgotten. It would be interesting to make a cost versus value comparison for each of our players from this last season - take Dibling, allegedly would cost a suitor £100m, however Saints fans might agree that realistically we might achieve a maximum £50m and yet his value has been more akin to £5m this season in terms of useful return.

In short this is why it is imperative for sentimentality to be given a back seat in this window and unsuitable/unstable/unworthy players shown the door pronto (or put out to garden leave). It’s potentially going to be a tougher season than many on here will be expecting IMHO, especially if Still/Spors do not act carefully in the window.

[Sevvy]

Problem is Will could have a team which wins the Championship at a canter, then we are promoted to the Premier league, then all the big teams come in and buy our players and we are back to square one.

Edited June 6 by Sevvy

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, Sevvy said:

Problem is Will could have a team which wins the Championship at a canter, then we are promoted to the Premier league, then all the big teams come in and buy our players and we are back to square one.

Standard, but the least of our problems right now mate.

[sockeye]

10 minutes ago, Sevvy said:

Problem is Will could have a team which wins the Championship at a canter, then we are promoted to the Premier league, then all the big teams come in and buy our players and we are back to square one.

Happens to everyone in the PL, see Wolves, Brentford, Bournemouth this window. That’s why you have to be on your a game with transfers every summer

[CB Fry]

37 minutes ago, Sevvy said:

Problem is Will could have a team which wins the Championship at a canter, then we are promoted to the Premier league, then all the big teams come in and buy our players and we are back to square one.

Tell you what, let's win the Championship at a canter and worry about the rest of it later.

[goodymatt]

 

[sockeye]

17 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

Hope West Ham go down this year. Nothing personal, but if we go up and Potter does poorly then they may look at poaching Still. It wouldn't be much of a move for him and he's a West Ham fan himself supposedly...

[BERMUDASAINT]

33 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

 

From the article i got a bad chill:

-In control of games, expects us to end up with a rigid horseshoe approach, with lots of control.

Are you RUSSEL MARTIN in disguise? 

[BarberSaint]

I would rather have WS and think he'll go farther and do better.  Either that or I'll be calling him names when bored at SMS.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, BarberSaint said:

I would rather have WS and think he'll go farther and do better.  Either that or I'll be calling him names when bored at SMS.

Better than organising a Bring A Horseshoe Day, to celebrate that about them. That would end badly. 🙂

[gurru991]

On 06/06/2025 at 04:54, Sevvy said:

Problem is Will could have a team which wins the Championship at a canter, then we are promoted to the Premier league, then all the big teams come in and buy our players and we are back to square one.

The onus is on the club to ensure that the manager has a team that is able to compete at the Premier League level. Selling players is fine as long as there are quality players who can replace them.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 hours ago, gurru991 said:

The onus is on the club to ensure that the manager has a team that is able to compete at the Premier League level. Selling players is fine as long as there are quality players who can replace them.

And therein lies the problem. Our recruitment has been shocking, for clubs like ours every signing more or less has to be on the money. As we've seen, get it wrong and you pay the price.

[gio1saints]

One not too often discussed nuance of the window is the difference between wholesale squad change and incremental squad change. 
 

Many on here would be happy for the former. In other words get rid of lots of the current squad ( but god knows how) & bring in lots of new players with no “scar tissue”. Maybe a 60-70% change overall. 
 

An equal number would keep some of “ the ones that proved they can do a job at Championship level “ , just sell the inevitable gems plus a fair few that were squad fillers. That’s maybe a 40% change overall. 
 

And then a minority might argue that the current squad, taking out the loan returnee /contract ending players and the obvious few selling ones is good enough with a few decent quality transfers in. Ie about a 20-30% change. 
 

Don’t forget- the new Manager counts as part of the turnover. I have no accurate idea who the 2 in c is going to be for instance or what role the rest of the coaching staff have or do not have. 
 

I think we will probably go down the middle path - though the first option feels more exciting it’s also more risky and the last option may seem a little too passive and though it’s probably financially cheaper at outset it may not be as cost effective as the middle way. 

[BarberSaint]

Get rid of the dross!

Sell the club.

Buy a B&B and make sure it's run properly.

We did alright when Koeman had to make a number of changes. Let's hope that Will, if he's Still here can replicate RK's good bits and avoid those big losing streaks that cost us the title.

[Wade Garrett]

It’s not scar tissue, they are fucking lazy.  Plenty of them I would be glad to see the back of.

[HarvSFC]

Paul Trollope joins as assistant. Remember him as manager of Bristol Rovers. Had a bit of a dire time at Luton the last two years and Nottingham Forest with Hughton before that, however. But, does have two promotions from the Championship to his name with Luton and Brighton.

[sockeye]

27 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Paul Trollope joins as assistant.

What a load of pon- I mean trollop.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, HarvSFC said:

Paul Trollope joins as assistant. Remember him as manager of Bristol Rovers. Had a bit of a dire time at Luton the last two years and Nottingham Forest with Hughton before that, however. But, does have two promotions from the Championship to his name with Luton and Brighton.

Wasn’t he their manager when they beat us 1-0 in the Cup, Lambert scoring 

[gio1saints]

Just a thought after reading that Matt o’reilly has been linked with Roma after a disappointing first year at Brighton : 

He’s not been played in his favoured position (8), apparently, and has said he’s unhappy. And apparently open to a move. 

He cost them £21m - so we are not paying that ( well I’m 90% confident we are not!) -  but given our strong interest last year it does not sound totally mad to suggest he might be somebody we would love to have on loan if available - and of course would be a guaranteed starter - especially given Mateus and Tyler employment status at SMS may be changing. 

I think he’d be a fantastic fit at Saints if he took up the challenge but I suspect there’s a lot better and wealthier clubs than us would take him as a loan- or even as an attacking midfielder punt - and that’s if Brighton even let him go. 

[leesaint88]

On 13/06/2025 at 19:54, Badger said:

Wasn’t he their manager when they beat us 1-0 in the Cup, Lambert scoring 

Probably - he was manager from 2005-2010.

[Turkish]

On 14/06/2025 at 09:13, gio1saints said:

Just a thought after reading that Matt o’reilly has been linked with Roma after a disappointing first year at Brighton : 

He’s not been played in his favoured position (8), apparently, and has said he’s unhappy. And apparently open to a move. 

He cost them £21m - so we are not paying that ( well I’m 90% confident we are not!) -  but given our strong interest last year it does not sound totally mad to suggest he might be somebody we would love to have on loan if available - and of course would be a guaranteed starter - especially given Mateus and Tyler employment status at SMS may be changing. 

I think he’d be a fantastic fit at Saints if he took up the challenge but I suspect there’s a lot better and wealthier clubs than us would take him as a loan- or even as an attacking midfielder punt - and that’s if Brighton even let him go. 

Agreed, lets go for Jack Grealish too while were at it. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Agreed, lets go for Jack Grealish too while were at it. 

Meh. Can't see him getting past Fraser into the side. 🙂

[Disco Stu]

Not sure if this has been shared already but this made me laugh 😂

 

Edited June 21 by Disco Stu

[Willo of Whiteley]

On 14/06/2025 at 16:13, gio1saints said:

Just a thought after reading that Matt o’reilly has been linked with Roma after a disappointing first year at Brighton : 

He’s not been played in his favoured position (8), apparently, and has said he’s unhappy. And apparently open to a move. 

He cost them £21m - so we are not paying that ( well I’m 90% confident we are not!) -  but given our strong interest last year it does not sound totally mad to suggest he might be somebody we would love to have on loan if available - and of course would be a guaranteed starter - especially given Mateus and Tyler employment status at SMS may be changing. 

I think he’d be a fantastic fit at Saints if he took up the challenge but I suspect there’s a lot better and wealthier clubs than us would take him as a loan- or even as an attacking midfielder punt - and that’s if Brighton even let him go. 

Let’s go for Salah as well, maybe?

Or Haaland?

Or Saka?

 

[gio1saints]

You think Saka, Haaland and Salah are available? 🤭

[John B]

On 24/05/2025 at 20:54, Colinjb said:

Welcome.

Please don't be crap.

Most managers end up being crap and I fully expect him to be sacked oneday probably within two years if we fail to get to the PL and in 2027 if we do not manage to get in some top class players and find ourselves in the PL

 

The three managers we had this season had little chance of survival with our poor squad and the strength of other team squads not sure any of our players

[E_H_Saints]

47 minutes ago, John B said:

Most managers end up being crap and I fully expect him to be sacked oneday probably within two years if we fail to get to the PL and in 2027 if we do not manage to get in some top class players and find ourselves in the PL

 

The three managers we had this season had little chance of survival with our poor squad and the strength of other team squads not sure any of our players

I am more optimistic.  WS has a much bigger following than most managers.  Will he take off running (one could hope) but realistically he will need time.  However, I think (merely speculation) that it's more likely he will leave us for more ambition than we sack him.  Almost like a RK all over again.  Someone like Everton or his well known favourite club West Ham will sneak in when we show signs of success.  

However, we are soo bad and lack in ideas, quality, structure, originality and so many other things that getting used as a stepping stone means some of these things would be resolved so I'll take it.  

[revolution saint]

8 minutes ago, E_H_Saints said:

I am more optimistic.  WS has a much bigger following than most managers.  Will he take off running (one could hope) but realistically he will need time.  However, I think (merely speculation) that it's more likely he will leave us for more ambition than we sack him.  Almost like a RK all over again.  Someone like Everton or his well known favourite club West Ham will sneak in when we show signs of success.  

However, we are soo bad and lack in ideas, quality, structure, originality and so many other things that getting used as a stepping stone means some of these things would be resolved so I'll take it.  

Interesting speculation and, much like you, I think he'll probably leave us as his ambition outstrips what the club can reasonably expect to achieve.  I think, pure speculation on my part and not ITK in any way, that he'll get us promoted as champions but will leave to star as Beaker in "Muppets: The musical".  

[John B]

8 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Interesting speculation and, much like you, I think he'll probably leave us as his ambition outstrips what the club can reasonably expect to achieve.  I think, pure speculation on my part and not ITK in any way, that he'll get us promoted as champions but will leave to star as Beaker in "Muppets: The musical".  

He will only suceed if we get in decent players which the club has failed to do for the last seven or eight years thats the reality and without KWP THB Ramsdale and Fernandes the squad is not as good as the one which Martin promoted

So lets wait and see what players are signed before speculating on what is going to happen in the coming season

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, John B said:

without KWP THB Ramsdale and Fernandes the squad is not as good as the one which Martin promoted

We didn't need Ramsdale or Fernandes last time to be promoted.

[Saint Fan CaM]

42 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

We didn't need Ramsdale or Fernandes last time to be promoted.

He said without those players the squad is not as good, not that all those players were in the team. You need to read posts a little more carefully MLG…you’re slipping. 😉

[Nolan]

Before the first game of the season, Will Still will likely be the 17th Longest Serving Manager in the Championship?

[Saint86]

On 22/06/2025 at 10:27, Matthew Le God said:

We didn't need Ramsdale or Fernandes last time to be promoted.

To be honest, you could take those players out (and replace) and the squad Will Still almost certainly be better than the last promotion team.

Ramsdale or new keeper, baz, macca, lumley >>> Stronger (Whatever we go with here, you would expect this to be better than a young Baz as starting keeper)

RB - Bree, Sugarwara <<< worse (KWP was superb for the championship, but Suga and Bree is still a very nice pairing for the level)

LB - Manning, Wellington, Taylor, Larios >>> Stronger (More depth and experience)

CB - THB, Edwards, Bednarek, Quarshie, Woods, Stephens >>> Stronger (as it stands, this is a stronger set of CBs, and offers more physicality/athleticism.

CM - Downes, Smallbone, Charles >>> Stronger (Charles one of the players of the season in the champ, downes and smallbone a year older and fitter, is there a better CM pairing than Downes and Charles in the champ?!)

CAM/Wingers - Dibling (or new), Edozie, Fermandes (or new), Robinson, Fraser === about the same (as it stands i would say stronger, but we will probably lose dibling or fernandes, but then again we know this is identified as a key positon).

Strikers - Steward, Armstrong, Archer, BBD >>> Stronger (and that is without strengthening here. Also, i am assuming that Stewart actually stays semi fit and plays for us this season....).

Its a decent squad for an automatics challenge. Doesn't look like we're financially pressured to sell, and there is a chance we keep Some of fernandes, ramsdale, and dibling, plus downes/charles/thb. A lot of reasons to be positive i think  

Edited Wednesday at 12:09 by Saint86

[gurru991]

On 06/06/2025 at 04:54, Sevvy said:

Problem is Will could have a team which wins the Championship at a canter, then we are promoted to the Premier league, then all the big teams come in and buy our players and we are back to square one.

Yes it’s a problem.   I see Newcastle want to buy Trafford from Burnley 

[Matthew Le God]

Backroom staff announced...

New additions boost Still's coaching team | Southampton FC Official Site

[disconnect]

On 24/06/2025 at 09:35, Saint86 said:

To be honest, you could take those players out (and replace) and the squad Will Still almost certainly be better than the last promotion team.

Ramsdale or new keeper, baz, macca, lumley >>> Stronger (Whatever we go with here, you would expect this to be better than a young Baz as starting keeper)

RB - Bree, Sugarwara <<< worse (KWP was superb for the championship, but Suga and Bree is still a very nice pairing for the level)

LB - Manning, Wellington, Taylor, Larios >>> Stronger (More depth and experience)

CB - THB, Edwards, Bednarek, Quarshie, Woods, Stephens >>> Stronger (as it stands, this is a stronger set of CBs, and offers more physicality/athleticism.

CM - Downes, Smallbone, Charles >>> Stronger (Charles one of the players of the season in the champ, downes and smallbone a year older and fitter, is there a better CM pairing than Downes and Charles in the champ?!)

CAM/Wingers - Dibling (or new), Edozie, Fermandes (or new), Robertson, Fraser === about the same (as it stands i would say stronger, but we will probably lose dibling or fernandes, but then again we know this is identified as a key positon).

Strikers - Steward, Armstrong, Archer, BBD >>> Stronger (and that is without strengthening here. Also, i am assuming that Stewart actually stays semi fit and plays for us this season....).

Its a decent squad for an automatics challenge. Doesn't look like we're financially pressured to sell, and there is a chance we keep Some of fernandes, ramsdale, and dibling, plus downes/charles/thb. A lot of reasons to be positive i think  

Took me a while to work out this was Jay Robinson. I would say the attacking midfielders / wingers currently are weaker without Sulemana and with one of Dibling or Fernandes almost certain to leave, along with possibly Fraser? Brooks was very good for championship level (and is doing it in the premier league) so we're a bit far off where we should be. 

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, disconnect said:

Took me a while to work out this was Jay Robinson. I would say the attacking midfielders / wingers currently are weaker without Sulemana and with one of Dibling or Fernandes almost certain to leave, along with possibly Fraser? Brooks was very good for championship level (and is doing it in the premier league) so we're a bit far off where we should be. 

I'm not sure in midfield or attack we are stronger at the moment. Assuming we lose Aribo, Fernandes maybe, Dibling, Onuachu and Sulemana. To surpass the championship quality of Aribo, Stuart Armstrong and even Che Adams will be a challenge if we want to say with confidence that we have a stronger team than last season. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:36 by hypochondriac

[saintant]

32 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Backroom staff announced...

New additions boost Still's coaching team | Southampton FC Official Site

Rusk gone and interesting to note that Lallana is still one of the first team coaches. No mention of a new first team tactics and insight analysist to replace Ben Parker.

[bangkoksaint]

Assuming Rusk has left I wish him well. He was handed a poison chalice but he didn’t cover himself in glory and at times was a bit gutless when we literally had nothing to lose 

[Saint Fan CaM]

3 minutes ago, saintant said:

Rusk gone and interesting to note that Lallana is still one of the first team coaches. No mention of a new first team tactics and insight analysist to replace Ben Parker.

All this sounds positive - a clear out of the football dept top to bottom was needed and that’s what’s been delivered, with only Lallana (a late addition) remaining. Whether the new team works is obviously yet to be determined, however I don’t think we could have asked for a more decisive number of changes and the Championship is the best place for a new Management team to cut its proverbial teeth. Next job - get the squad sorted. I’m starting to get mildly excited to see where we go from here….roll on pre-season.

[goodymatt]

1 minute ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

All this sounds positive - a clear out of the football dept top to bottom was needed and that’s what’s been delivered, with only Lallana (a late addition) remaining. Whether the new team works is obviously yet to be determined, however I don’t think we could have asked for a more decisive number of changes and the Championship is the best place for a new Management team to cut its proverbial teeth. Next job - get the squad sorted. I’m starting to get mildly excited to see where we go from here….roll on pre-season.

Carl Martin also still on the coaching staff. Wonder if we might replace Parker with Still’s video analyst brother?

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Carl Martin also still on the coaching staff. Wonder if we might replace Parker with Still’s video analyst brother?

Good shout and might be the case.

[skintsaint]

14 minutes ago, saintant said:

No mention of a new first team tactics and insight analysist to replace Ben Parker.

They can just pop on here to find all that out. Money saved there not replacing him.

[Saint86]

40 minutes ago, disconnect said:

Took me a while to work out this was Jay Robinson. I would say the attacking midfielders / wingers currently are weaker without Sulemana and with one of Dibling or Fernandes almost certain to leave, along with possibly Fraser? Brooks was very good for championship level (and is doing it in the premier league) so we're a bit far off where we should be. 

ffs! have corrected that!

I know what you mean about the wingers and brooks - but Edozie is another year older with regular footy under his belt, and we should have one of Dibbling/fernandes to supplement the side. We do need to strengthen in the attacking mid / winger section regardless, but i think we'll be about the same with only 1 of those 2 leaving.