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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He is a proper proven Champ quality player

 

His statistics were decent. But you can't take them with you when you move clubs (Downs' 10 goals last season are worth fuck all to us now, for example). 

His attributes are garbage. Weak, slow, no work rate, drifts around on the periphery of games. We were told this by people that watched him week in, week out. 

But we still signed him - presumably because we don't scout anymore, just look at spreadsheets while patting ourselves on the back for being so modern. 

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He's a good player and will prove it again if we sell him. The fact that we are so badly set up on matchdays is hardly his fault. We bought a good player but so far haven't utilised him to the best of his ability.

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We didn’t need any more fair weather players. We are so data driven that we seem to ignore the character and mental strength of players we sign. 

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7 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

We didn’t need any more fair weather players. We are so data driven that we seem to ignore the character and mental strength of players we sign. 

Goals and assists isn’t “data” it’s football. 


He’s proven at this level and we have misused him. 

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2 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Goals and assists isn’t “data” it’s football. 


He’s proven at this level and we have misused him. 

Good players shine and make things happen. 

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27 minutes ago, saintant said:

He's a good player and will prove it again if we sell him. The fact that we are so badly set up on matchdays is hardly his fault. We bought a good player but so far haven't utilised him to the best of his ability.

When he can't even run or trap a ball then that doesn't wash at all

Another cunt stealing a wage

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46 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

When he can't even run or trap a ball then that doesn't wash at all

Another cunt stealing a wage

Check his stats last season when playing for a Boro team utilising his talents. Chalk and cheese to what we're seeing.

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12 minutes ago, saintant said:

Check his stats last season when playing for a Boro team utilising his talents. Chalk and cheese to what we're seeing.

I'd rather use my eyes than look at stats. Guly do Prado once scored 10 Championship goals in a season, was he worth £15m?

Boro fans told us they weren't bothered if we bought him, we should've listened.

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In his defence, I’m not really sure what position he was supposed to be playing today. 

He was just sort of floating about giving the ball away  

Maybe a better manager could get something out of him? But not holding my breathe. 

Absolute stinker of a first touch on him 

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He is a terrible bloody footballer.  He goes missing for long periods when the going gets tought, gives the ball away cheaply and has generally been crap for us.

Yet he started ahead of Robinson and Fellows.  Madness 

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Just now, washsaint said:

He is a terrible bloody footballer.  He goes missing for long periods when the going gets tought, gives the ball away cheaply and has generally been crap for us.

Yet he started ahead of Robinson and Fellows.  Madness 

Yep. It's all very well saying he needs the right conditions for him to play well, but if you need a perfect storm just to trap a ball then it doesn't look like £15m well spent.

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1 hour ago, washsaint said:

He is a terrible bloody footballer.  He goes missing for long periods when the going gets tought, gives the ball away cheaply and has generally been crap for us.

Yet he started ahead of Robinson and Fellows.  Madness 

He obviously isn’t. What did he get something like 12 goals and 14 assists last season. Like so many as soon as they pull on a saints shirt they become shit

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Just now, Turkish said:

He obviously isn’t. What did he get something like 12 goals and 14 assists last season. Like so many as soon as they pull on a saints shirt they become shit

Just like Bree is playing like an English Hakimi right now. Yet deemed not good enough for us.

 

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3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Just like Bree is playing like an English Hakimi right now. Yet deemed not good enough for us.

 

He's always been the English Hakimi for those of us who could see 🤣

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59 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

finn azaz couldnt provide penetration in a brothel

no wonder boro werent that bothered, another endorsement why stats are fucking bollocks

He reminds me a bit of Gaston Ramirez however without that Villa game to fall back on as proof he clearly has talent 

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2 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

I'd rather use my eyes than look at stats. Guly do Prado once scored 10 Championship goals in a season, was he worth £15m?

Boro fans told us they weren't bothered if we bought him, we should've listened.

I'd snap your hand off for a 10 goal Guly Do Prado at £15m in our current situation. 

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

He obviously isn’t. What did he get something like 12 goals and 14 assists last season. Like so many as soon as they pull on a saints shirt they become shit

Yep. And you can guarantee the moment he leaves us, he will immediately start banging then in again and contributing for his new club. The lack of football acumen and structure here among coaching staff to mould a functioning team of players and get the most out of the players we bring in, is staggeringly bad, to an epic scale. No other business would survive such ridiculously horrendous management. 

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14 hours ago, qwertyell said:

His statistics were decent. But you can't take them with you when you move clubs (Downs' 10 goals last season are worth fuck all to us now, for example). 

His attributes are garbage. Weak, slow, no work rate, drifts around on the periphery of games. We were told this by people that watched him week in, week out. 

But we still signed him - presumably because we don't scout anymore, just look at spreadsheets while patting ourselves on the back for being so modern. 

Yeah he's looked like a terrible player for us, gets completely lost in games which just pass him by , no idea how he was supposed to fit in to the side but can say that about a few of our players 

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8 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Yep. And you can guarantee the moment he leaves us, he will immediately start banging then in again and contributing for his new club. The lack of football acumen and structure here among coaching staff to mould a functioning team of players and get the most out of the players we bring in, is staggeringly bad, to an epic scale. No other business would survive such ridiculously horrendous management. 

Yes! I said this back in August, there was no sign of any strategy or building a team , completely dysfunctional bunch of strangers on the pitch who seem to have no plan , lacking strength in key areas with same mistakes made over and over again 

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