Saints 1-1 Boro - Match Thread

[die Mannyschaft]

3 hours ago, miserableoldgit said:

Oh.....if only....😌

Goal drought at Saints, blame it on climate change. 

[Toussaint]

31 minutes ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said:

Christ, just seen their equaliser for first time since the game. How the fuck do we continually let in shit like that. Was there that much of a deflection for McCarthy to suddenly forget he had arms.
I’m going Baz next week to palm one to the centre forward then McCarthy the week after, rinse and repeat.

I was behind the goal, he was on his way down when the ball looped over him, not a chance in hell he could have got to it.

[StrangelyBrown]

I thought there were a lot of positives today.

Fellows looks class. 

Azaz looked good apart from a couple of dodgy moments and a glaring miss.

Wood and Quarshie are clearly our best CBs and Edwards looked much more comfortable than he had done previously. 

Charles is an absolute gem. Unbelievable that the snake oil salesman thought he wasn't good enough! 

Jander looked much better with Charles than Downes.

Other attacking players were a bit hit and miss. Armstrong is still pretty brainless - holds the ball far too long and can't help but shoot straight at the keeper most of the time, but his work rate was fantastic. Stewart led the line better than anyone else has done this season albeit in a bit of a shambolic way at times. Scienza wins free kicks but does little else. Robinson didn't do much but didn't get many minutes.

 

On the negative side: 

We look short of confidence in front of goal.

It was a shame that Still didn't realise that Manning had run out of steam in the second half - he looked absolutely knackered. 

McCarthy just isn't good enough - if only we could bring Ramsdale back...

 

Overall things moving in the right direction, but not fast enough for my liking.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

I thought there were a lot of positives today.

Fellows looks class. 

Azaz looked good apart from a couple of dodgy moments and a glaring miss.

Wood and Quarshie are clearly our best CBs and Edwards looked much more comfortable than he had done previously. 

Charles is an absolute gem. Unbelievable that the snake oil salesman thought he wasn't good enough! 

Jander looked much better with Charles than Downes.

Other attacking players were a bit hit and miss. Armstrong is still pretty brainless - holds the ball far too long and can't help but shoot straight at the keeper most of the time, but his work rate was fantastic. Stewart led the line better than anyone else has done this season albeit in a bit of a shambolic way at times. Scienza wins free kicks but does little else. Robinson didn't do much but didn't get many minutes.

 

On the negative side: 

We look short of confidence in front of goal.

It was a shame that Still didn't realise that Manning had run out of steam in the second half - he looked absolutely knackered. 

McCarthy just isn't good enough - if only we could bring Ramsdale back...

 

Overall things moving in the right direction, but not fast enough for my liking.

Not sure what McCarthy did wrong today, apart from missing a ball in from a corner..

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, StrangelyBrown said:

I thought there were a lot of positives today.

Fellows looks class. 

Azaz looked good apart from a couple of dodgy moments and a glaring miss.

Wood and Quarshie are clearly our best CBs and Edwards looked much more comfortable than he had done previously. 

Charles is an absolute gem. Unbelievable that the snake oil salesman thought he wasn't good enough! 

Jander looked much better with Charles than Downes.

Other attacking players were a bit hit and miss. Armstrong is still pretty brainless - holds the ball far too long and can't help but shoot straight at the keeper most of the time, but his work rate was fantastic. Stewart led the line better than anyone else has done this season albeit in a bit of a shambolic way at times. Scienza wins free kicks but does little else. Robinson didn't do much but didn't get many minutes.

 

On the negative side: 

We look short of confidence in front of goal.

It was a shame that Still didn't realise that Manning had run out of steam in the second half - he looked absolutely knackered. 

McCarthy just isn't good enough - if only we could bring Ramsdale back...

 

Overall things moving in the right direction, but not fast enough for my liking.

To be fair to McCarthy he didn't have a lot to do. The deflection on the shot for their goal did for him. 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not sure what McCarthy did wrong today, apart from missing a ball in from a corner..

 

That and the ball pushed into a crowded goal area.

[LeBizzier69]

3 hours ago, rooney said:

Rather have. Rickie Lambert type.

Type what?

[StrangelyBrown]

3 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

To be fair to McCarthy he didn't have a lot to do. The deflection on the shot for their goal did for him. 

He "bazzed" a shot into the nearest striker and some how got away with it, flapped woefully at a corner and conceded the goal (which admittedly I haven't seen properly so I may be being harsh). Other than that he was tidy enough but didn't really have to do much (or do anything good either). We could do with a keeper that in occasional difficult moments pulls something out of the bag and we have that in Ramsdale who is busy warming Newcastle's bench...

[St. Ciervo]

9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not sure what McCarthy did wrong today, apart from missing a ball in from a corner..

I recall him parrying a ball right to a Boro player. But we only worry if Baz does it. Overall, McC deserves to stay in goal mid-week. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

6 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said:

He "bazzed" a shot into the nearest striker and some how got away with it, flapped woefully at a corner and conceded the goal (which admittedly I haven't seen properly so I may be being harsh). Other than that he was tidy enough but didn't really have to do much (or do anything good either). We could do with a keeper that in occasional difficult moments pulls something out of the bag and we have that in Ramsdale who is busy warming Newcastle's bench...

He may have got lucky with the "bazzed" parry, but you could argue that he actually got enough on it to get it away from danager. He parried it at a fair lick, so not sure the Boro player had much time to react to it. We restricted them to next to nothing in the end, so i think defensively we were a lot more solid.

[StrangelyBrown]

6 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

He may have got lucky with the "bazzed" parry, but you could argue that he actually got enough on it to get it away from danager. He parried it at a fair lick, so not sure the Boro player had much time to react to it. We restricted them to next to nothing in the end, so i think defensively we were a lot more solid.

Don't get me wrong, he was better than Baz would have been in the same scenarios, but that bar is pretty low. But yes he did make us more solid.

And in general from a defensive point of view having players at CB who actually defend proactively made a huge difference - yes the may make occasional mistakes but at least they don't watch the ball and just simply point at each other when things go wrong.

[CSA96]

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

I left the game today disappointed not to have won, Middlesbrough didn’t exactly create much, but they were there for the taking, we broke down their back five with ease multiple times but just didn’t shoot on occasion when we had the opportunity or didn’t take the chances we did get.

Result aside I actually left the game pretty happy.

That was a much more encouraging performance. It was encouraging to see that the manager has no hesitation in dropping players that aren’t performing either, that’s a big tick in the plus column, and the fact he did that and gave us a better performance should get fans onside.

We just need to start putting points on the board.

[Convict Colony]

Am too lazy and about to go to bed but how many wins have we had in the league since last sept.

Are we playing a new style of football where the object is to never win !

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

11 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Am too lazy and about to go to bed but how many wins have we had in the league since last sept.

Are we playing a new style of football where the object is to never win !

 

Winning...points...meh.

All the real excitement is in the shifting player values against the market, in SR's database trading model.

[Saint86]

I feel like we are seeing progress. But its taking a while for them to click, we've got tough games atm (do well to take anything from Wilder's Sheffield away). Fair play on him for dropping Stephens and THB.

Thought fellows, AA, woods, and Quarshie all had pretty strong games all in all (although the CB's did lose their man for the goal - not helped by the decoy runner being offisde and them appealing for it).

In some ways, maybe this tough run of matches is going to hone the team - but we'll be looking for  Reading McDermot style run to get automatics if we don't start winning soon.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 22:12 by Saint86

[OneMrsWallace]

It was ok today and although AA took his chance well I just don't see us scoring many, we still look a bit clueless in the final third. We're better defensively and look fit enough but forward play still needs lots of work.

[HarvSFC]

Issue with the goal is how much time Ayling had out on the right to cross the ball in. No one putting pressure on him or closing him down. Professional footballers can place the ball where they want when they have time, need to be better there.

[rooney]

9 hours ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Type what?

One that connect to all those crosses Tom Fellows was making yesterday.

[Cabrone]

Definite signs of improvement but it's happening too slowly for automatic promotion. Leicester and Ipswich are up and running and they are not going to slow down.

I wish this club wasn't always so slow to get moving at the start of the season.

[Vancouver Saint]

Definitely a better performance. Disappointing and predictable we couldn't hold on for a win we just about deserved against a well-organised team that are top for a reason.

But for glaring misses from Azaz and Quarshie (are we allergic to scoring goals! - what is it?) we'd have been in a stronger position earlier.

Thought Targett should have been booked early in the first 10 minutes, not the 90th minute of the game - would have stopped his 'plough through the back of them' play all game. 
All defensive replacements were better than those at Hull.

Why oh why do will still persist with outswinging corners? And Robinson should have been on much earlier. Adam Armstrong ran his heart out and a great goal.

Keep McCarthy in goal until we buy a better goalie...or get Ramsbottom back.

[Toussaint]

I left the game very deflated yesterday, but on reflection it was a massive improvement. Good to see Still has the courage to drop players who needed dropping, who would previously have been picked automatically regardless of form. 
 

Signs of encouragement.

Where I differ from quite a few on here is I thought Middlesbrough were a very good side, well organised and dangerous on the break. I think some people forget we are in the championship, that’s the level we are competing at. They are a good championship team, that’s why they are top. We are also a championship team, with championship players and we aren’t going to blow these teams, who some consider inferior, away. 

[SWLondon Saint]

33 minutes ago, Cabrone said:

Definite signs of improvement but it's happening too slowly for automatic promotion. Leicester and Ipswich are up and running and they are not going to slow down.

I wish this club wasn't always so slow to get moving at the start of the season.

We're 6 points from 2nd, 5 behind Leicester, 2 behind Ipswich! This Championship season looks incredibly close so far, definitely more than enough time to get in some decent form.

[Toussaint]

6 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Issue with the goal is how much time Ayling had out on the right to cross the ball in. No one putting pressure on him or closing him down. Professional footballers can place the ball where they want when they have time, need to be better there.

We were being overloaded at left back for the whole second half, repeatedly 3 on 2, I’m surprised it didn’t get sorted.

[Thripp87]

Seems overly positive on here to me? I’m still reading posts on automatics if we put a run together, saints are marching on and lots of encouragement to take. Honestly the thread really doesn’t read as if we’ve just thrown a lead away at home to Middlesbrough. Is that our bar now?

Yes Still made some good calls on throwing the two idiots out at centre back from Hull, but any of us could have called that. He then proceeded to lose that good will by taking Fellows off at a key time in the game, when he was getting us up  the pitch. 
 

 

[egg]

31 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Seems overly positive on here to me? I’m still reading posts on automatics if we put a run together, saints are marching on and lots of encouragement to take. Honestly the thread really doesn’t read as if we’ve just thrown a lead away at home to Middlesbrough. Is that our bar now?

Yes Still made some good calls on throwing the two idiots out at centre back from Hull, but any of us could have called that. He then proceeded to lose that good will by taking Fellows off at a key time in the game, when he was getting us up  the pitch. 
 

 

It's a half glass full of half glass empty thing. That's a half glass empty comment - or overly negative if you like. 

We drew with the league leaders with a massively changed team, and a much improved performance. Players playing together for the first time played well together.

My glass is half full. Was yesterday perfect, no, there's still a lack of ideas and confidence up front, but Still showed he has a pair, and the players turned up.

I've no idea how the season will pan out, but the only game that matters is the next one and I'm much more positive about that after yesterday.

Edited Sunday at 07:55 by egg

[gio1saints]

My players assessment : 

AM : Did alright. Goal not at fault. Simply being there after his howler midweek shows he has cojones. Should keep his place. 
Manning: Below par match in an otherwise excellent season. 
Ronnie,Woods, Quarsie. Quietly effective. Well organised. Physically very dominant. Woods and Quarsie in particular look a good pairing. All three to keep places. 
Jander and Shea : Very.Good. players. Retain places and Flynn as back up. 
Azaz and Fellowes : First half not enough impact. Second half better.  Overall they are getting there, slowly. They are still acclimatising imo. Everybody wants instant impact from these but Patience required. They are good players. Retain as starters. 
Adarma : my MOTM. Best game of the season. Best position for him. Retain. 
Stewart : Running out of patience for him to do something, anything, remotely goal threatening. BUT he won a few headers and his size means he hold ball better. A loan spell might help him. 
Will Still : tactics were so-so starting players was spot on. Substitutions not good enough. Taking Fellowes off for Fraser was a negative move. When we were in the ascendancy it looked like we immediately dropped ten yards and I could not see if he was going mental at team but he should have been. We let them off. 
 

Overall: progress. We are creating a new team and we are just starting to see the light. Long season and could be a close run thing - but we will be up there finishing strongest I hope. 

 

[Mr X]

I'm being positive and understand that we would all have taken a point at the start but we rarely seem to be able to close out leads... Today borough got lucky but it always seems to happen to saints... Create our own luck and all that.  For me the verdict is very much in the balance for WS.... Of course he should be given more time but so far he can't coach a defence we leak way too many goals and don't score enough, does he know his best team and formation? What is our actual style? Yes he has a difficult task getting new players to gel and perform at their best but is 7 points in seven games and no wins in the last 5 showing signs of improvement? 

[Willo of Whiteley]

In a nutshell the result is frustrating but I would take a glass half full approach that the team was widely different, the manager made some tough decisions which generally most managers wouldn’t do, and the performance showed to back that up.

There were a couple of sitters that we missed, a bit more composure later in the season and we blow this game out the water before it’s begun.
One other thing I noticed sitting in the Northam is how many times there would be an opportunity to take a shot and there was always that extra touch or extra pass. That’ll change over time.

But I would be more encouraged.

Same team for next week would be great, hopefully a performance to match, otherwise it’s a one step forward, two steps back scenario.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

I think I am correct in saying after only 7 games only one player has started all 7 , namely Shea Charles. Sort of tells its own story.

[Willo of Whiteley]

7 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think I am correct in saying after only 7 games only one player has started all 7 , namely Shea Charles. Sort of tells its own story.

He was very good yesterday 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

8 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I think I am correct in saying after only 7 games only one player has started all 7 , namely Shea Charles. Sort of tells its own story.

I don't mind changes, if it ultimately leads to Still finding a more settled and cohesive team. Bar Stewart and possibly Manning, I think Still has stumbled upon something that can finally get us moving.

[Cabrone]

2 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

 

2 hours ago, SWLondon Saint said:

We're 6 points from 2nd, 5 behind Leicester, 2 behind Ipswich! This Championship season looks incredibly close so far, definitely more than enough time to get in some decent form.

 

In the last 5 seasons to get top 2 you'd have needed 92, 89, 92, 97 and 101 points. So if it stays on track this season we'd need around 92/93 points to be in contention. We have 7 points from 7 games so we need 85\86 from 39 games/117 points. Not impossible but why do we make life so hard on ourselves.

Secondly our torpor has allowed (IMO our biggest rivals) Leicester\Ipswich to get their act together and I think they will start to motor now. We really could have stolen a march on them had we hit the ground running. Thirdly there is a 9 point gap between us and Boro which will be tough to breach.

I know many will say it's too early to think like this but in this league when someone gets momentum they become very hard to catch - remember how it took us 20+ unbeaten games 2 seasons ago to play catch up? We slogged to get back in contention only to fade away again.

It's not because we had a tricky transfer window etc.....so does every other club in this division. We are notoriously slow starters and it costs us - when will we learn?

Edited Sunday at 09:36 by Cabrone
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[saintant]

17 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Interesting that the commentators were saying we need the strikers to be better - actually we need our midfielders to have more composure in the box and score - Azaz was poor today and as I predicted Scienza did come in and looked better immediately. We effectively lost the win by not pressing as high later in the 2nd half…as usual we thought 1-0 would do the business.

Overall you could argue 1-1 against the league leaders was a good result, but that still leaves us 19th I believe…that league position is nothing really to celebrate - check out the teams above us. A win on Tuesday now is looking almost essential. I think Still needs to leave this team in place - so much more attacking intent, grit and fight. Importantly, more chance of this line-up improving.

Why is a win on Tuesday essential? We are building and finding the best eleven and system to play. Progress made today especially at the back where we looked far more solid without Stephens and THB. We aren't getting promoted this season so it will be one where we evolve. No must win games because we're going to be mid table or just above.

[Paul_B]

9 minutes ago, saintant said:

Why is a win on Tuesday essential? We are building and finding the best eleven and system to play. Progress made today especially at the back where we looked far more solid without Stephens and THB. We aren't getting promoted this season so it will be one where we evolve. No must win games because we're going to be mid table or just above.

Agreed that mid-table is the best we're going to achieve this season, but we do need to start winning, especially against those below and around us so that we can build a bit of positivity and momentum for next year. Otherwise we'll be in a relegation battle.....

Good to see a number of our 'rejects' smashing it for their respective clubs!

[Paul_B]

9 minutes ago, saintant said:

Why is a win on Tuesday essential? We are building and finding the best eleven and system to play. Progress made today especially at the back where we looked far more solid without Stephens and THB. We aren't getting promoted this season so it will be one where we evolve. No must win games because we're going to be mid table or just above.

Agreed that mid-table is the best we're going to achieve this season, but we do need to start winning, especially against those below and around us so that we can build a bit of positivity and momentum for next year. Otherwise we'll be in a relegation battle.....

Good to see a number of our 'rejects' smashing it for their respective clubs!

[Willo of Whiteley]

Leo Scienza was a handful when he came on too. He didn’t stop running.

[LaptopSaint]

I’m not sure I buy this ‘we’d have all taken a point at the start’ line. I wouldn’t. We should be winning at home. We have better players.

Walking back up the Avenue I was thinking I just want to win a game of bloody football. Like someone else said earlier the pounds spent on watching/points gained ratio since the beginning of last season doesn’t really bear thinking about. 
 

Biggest mistake IMO was taking Fellows off when he was running them ragged and we should have gone for the jugular. I like Ross Stewart but he desperately needs a couple of lucky bounces. Jander is going to be class, and Azaz had a couple of good moments. Centre backs look promising. 
 

Time for Still to make it all gel. 

[stfrancisofbenali]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

Why is a win on Tuesday essential? We are building and finding the best eleven and system to play. Progress made today especially at the back where we looked far more solid without Stephens and THB. We aren't getting promoted this season so it will be one where we evolve. No must win games because we're going to be mid table or just above.

After only seven games it’s a brave call to say we aren’t getting promoted this season. Put 4 wins together in this division and you’re right in contention and we have the players with the ability to do just that. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

2 hours ago, saintant said:

Why is a win on Tuesday essential? We are building and finding the best eleven and system to play. Progress made today especially at the back where we looked far more solid without Stephens and THB. We aren't getting promoted this season so it will be one where we evolve. No must win games because we're going to be mid table or just above.

Mate, if we don’t start winning games soon we’ll be dropping into the relegation zone let alone finishing mid-table and that’s going to be a potential disaster as it will mean the hierarchy need to make a decision on Still. Don’t think it’s not feasible - it’s happened to similar sized clubs to us. I don’t for one minute think we’ll be relegated and I did predict we’d be more mid-table than play-off hopefuls, but this league is brutal…we’re not producing the wins (how many games now?)…and we’re sinking. Still has seemingly found a line-up that works, but we saw on Saturday what happens when subs are introduced - it goes tits-up. Complacency is something we cannot afford at this point.

[Wade Garrett]

12 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Issue with the goal is how much time Ayling had out on the right to cross the ball in. No one putting pressure on him or closing him down. Professional footballers can place the ball where they want when they have time, need to be better there.

I’ve posted elsewhere.  Manning never gets close enough to the wide man to stop any crosses.  Boro knew this and targeted his side all second half.

[SWLondon Saint]

3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I’ve posted elsewhere.  Manning never gets close enough to the wide man to stop any crosses.  Boro knew this and targeted his side all second half.

Agree completely with this. I think a lot of people forget when we had the unbeaten run last time round, we had Bree at LB for most of it.

I would expect to see Mads back at RWB and Jelert at LWB at some point if we are setting out to defend. Yes Mads was crap at Hull, but when he played with Edwards-Wood-Quarshie at Norwich he was fine.

[saintant]

16 hours ago, StrangelyBrown said:

I thought there were a lot of positives today.

Fellows looks class. 

Azaz looked good apart from a couple of dodgy moments and a glaring miss.

Wood and Quarshie are clearly our best CBs and Edwards looked much more comfortable than he had done previously. 

Charles is an absolute gem. Unbelievable that the snake oil salesman thought he wasn't good enough! 

Jander looked much better with Charles than Downes.

Other attacking players were a bit hit and miss. Armstrong is still pretty brainless - holds the ball far too long and can't help but shoot straight at the keeper most of the time, but his work rate was fantastic. Stewart led the line better than anyone else has done this season albeit in a bit of a shambolic way at times. Scienza wins free kicks but does little else. Robinson didn't do much but didn't get many minutes.

 

On the negative side: 

We look short of confidence in front of goal.

It was a shame that Still didn't realise that Manning had run out of steam in the second half - he looked absolutely knackered. 

McCarthy just isn't good enough - if only we could bring Ramsdale back...

 

Overall things moving in the right direction, but not fast enough for my liking.

Yeah agree, he's so brainless he's scored our last two league goals. Let's pick someone intelligent.

[skintsaint]

20 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Our goal came from a lucky deflection as well though. 

[Football Special]

6 hours ago, egg said:

It's a half glass full of half glass empty thing. That's a half glass empty comment - or overly negative if you like. 

We drew with the league leaders with a massively changed team, and a much improved performance. Players playing together for the first time played well together.

My glass is half full. Was yesterday perfect, no, there's still a lack of ideas and confidence up front, but Still showed he has a pair, and the players turned up.

I've no idea how the season will pan out, but the only game that matters is the next one and I'm much more positive about that after yesterday.

I agree there's more to be positive about, change of players showing what they are capable of at Anfield and again on Saturday, my biggest concern is up front Still hasnt decided who best fits his system and between Downs, Stewart and Archer I think none of them will,  Archer best finisher but can't hold ball up and bring others into play, Stewart seemed to do that more but then doesn't offer us the goal threat , going to keep trying different combinations I expect 

Edited Sunday at 13:38 by Football Special

[skintsaint]

Thought we deserved to win yesterday, and again our usual story of not finishing chances that we should be, and have a decent deserved 2-0 lead at halftime.

Thought we sat back too much once we scored, and the Fellows sub for Fraser killed us a bit.

More positive performance, adjust the front line a little, swap out Manning for Jelert and we could be onto something.

[saintant]

13 hours ago, OneMrsWallace said:

It was ok today and although AA took his chance well I just don't see us scoring many, we still look a bit clueless in the final third. We're better defensively and look fit enough but forward play still needs lots of work.

Swap the wide players over so that Fellows can cut into the box and shoot right footed. 

[saintant]

4 hours ago, Mr X said:

I'm being positive and understand that we would all have taken a point at the start but we rarely seem to be able to close out leads... Today borough got lucky but it always seems to happen to saints... Create our own luck and all that.  For me the verdict is very much in the balance for WS.... Of course he should be given more time but so far he can't coach a defence we leak way too many goals and don't score enough, does he know his best team and formation? What is our actual style? Yes he has a difficult task getting new players to gel and perform at their best but is 7 points in seven games and no wins in the last 5 showing signs of improvement? 

I'm hoping WS has made a big step towards improving the defence by dropping Stephens and THB. Boro scored a pretty lucky goal which seemed to just  bounce into the ground and loop over AM. Don't think they created much else so a good start for Wood and Quarshie.

[spyinthesky]

I enjoyed the game a bit more than the ones I have seen at St Marys and Hull so far this season bearing in mind that Middlesboro are a decent side.

I was only thinking to myself that the Smoggies had taken off three of their more attacking players, which was a good sign, only to find that their replacements ended up causing us more problems.

It may be that Saints are work in progress but then again quite a few Championship teams have quite a turnover of players this season so that is a bit of a poor excuse.

I guess we have a strong squad which should be beneficial as the season progresses as really only Shea Charles would be a big miss if he was to miss games.

I thought Ross Stewart did OK for his first full game and not only did he provide and aerial challenge but also dropped back into midfield to attend to defensive duties.

All that said, with the way the team have performed so far this season, a top two spot is very unlikely and there will need to be a big upturn in form to make the playoffs.

If we can only get 2 or 3 points from the next two games then the pressure will really be on Will Still
 

[Charlie Wayman]

4 hours ago, stfrancisofbenali said:

After only seven games it’s a brave call to say we aren’t getting promoted this season. Put 4 wins together in this division and you’re right in contention and we have the players with the ability to do just that. 

Sorry but your head is in Cuckoo land. No way is this shambles of a team going to get anywhere promotion. 14th at best. 

We can't score goals and there has been no improvement in that respect since the start of the season. If not then and now then when? 4 wins in a row sounds like Trump's 7 war ends.

Edited Sunday at 16:26 by Charlie Wayman