Southampton 0-2 Preston - Match Thread

[SWLondon Saint]

Also got no idea why he puts Downs on the bench if he doesn't think he can make an impact, it can't be any better for his confidence than just being put in the u21s for a few games.

[Harry_SFC]

10 minutes ago, chownie20 said:

Look at those players - where is the creativity coming from? Scienza and Azaz? So many defensive first players, so imbalanced. 

 

Jander and Downes are going to have to play forward

Downes can't do that. 

[chownie20]

8 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

In fairness thats the one position he can moan about today

Its him or Downs

Or Aribo or the young lad

[beatlesaint]

4 minutes ago, gastroreporter said:

Is Ryan Fraser injured?

Pretty sure Still said he was struggling with an injury 

[bugenhagen]

As we have very little chance of hanging onto a 1-0 lead, the way for us to win in this division (until we build confidence) is to get into a 2 or 3 goal lead, and hope that the opposition gives up a little and takes their foot off the gas. 

No point in trying to be solid in numbers at the back, as we crumble under pressure no matter how many bodies we put back there. 

[chownie20]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Azaz will play 'from' wide, I should imagine.

We will be WIIIIIIDE open in the middle of the park, that is for sure. 

Unless Edwards is actually going to play further forward?

433 Edwards CM.... please!!!!

[saintant]

No excuse for not ditching the failing 3 centre back system today. Should have gone 4231 and he'll have a lot of explaining to do if his line up doesn't pay off because the vast majority of us can see it doesn't work and are sick to the back teeth of it. He's making it very hard to back him and call for more time because he doesn't help himself.

Edited 20 hours ago by saintant

[sockeye]

Only one spot above the relegation zone. Not sure how much time Still has left if he can't grab the majority of points before the next international break.

[pingpong]

Back 3 again, not sure why he still persists in such attacking formations when we need to be more solid.

[RedArmy]

I think it’s pretty fucking clear he is following orders with the formation. 
 

His comments this week about 4-2-3-1 being his favourite formation underline that for me. 
 

 

[LaptopSaint]

Love the back 5! No idea why Fellows makes the bench. He might come on and create something ffs 

[DT]

McCarthy in goal, Armstrong in attack and Will Still as coach equals away win. Hopefully by enough to catalyse some action, finally.

[die Mannyschaft]

Have the players got the black smoke flares 

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, RedArmy said:

I think it’s pretty fucking clear he is following orders with the formation. 
 

His comments this week about 4-2-3-1 being his favourite formation underline that for me. 
 

 

Or he is full of shite

[ant]

Starting lineup looks gross. Feeling pretty fucking despondent on the walk to the ground.

The guilt of having bought a season ticket when money is tight is more of a motivating factor to attend than any anticipation of enjoyment.

[CB Fry]

1 minute ago, RedArmy said:

I think it’s pretty fucking clear he is following orders with the formation. 
 

His comments this week about 4-2-3-1 being his favourite formation underline that for me. 
 

 

The only "orders" he is getting are to fucking win.

 

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I think it’s pretty fucking clear he is following orders with the formation. 
 

His comments this week about 4-2-3-1 being his favourite formation underline that for me. 
 

 

What does that even mean? Who would force the manager to persist with a formation that is shit and doesn't work? Particularly at home.

[AlexLaw76]

This will probably be our ugly 1 win in 5 or so...you know, because we again have a far better group of players than the opposition. That will be followed by many saying "see, SEE...it is all coming together"

Edited 19 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[RedArmy]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

The only "orders" he is getting are to fucking win.

 

Rasmus Wankface is another Russell Martin, losing playing your way is more important than winning ugly. 

[SambaMaverick]

5 defenders, two holding midfielders... Still is petrified

[Saint NL]

Well at least we can't drop into the bottom three today, it'd take a big Sheffield United win and a heavy loss for us.

[tdmickey3]

Just now, SambaMaverick said:

5 defenders, two holding midfielders... Still is petrified

And we will still be wide open

[RedArmy]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

What does that even mean? Who would force the manager to persist with a formation that is shit and doesn't work? Particularly at home.

Rasmus. 
 

He’ll be tugging himself silly to those xG stats. 

[Osvaldorama]

absolutely shocking lineup. 
 

I cannot believe how negative this manager is

[UpweySaint]

I’m not in the Still out camp (yet!) but that sort of selection puts a lot of pressure on him. Has the feel of a must win to get our season going again and give Still a bit of breathing space. Also feels like a big game for Azaz - still yet to see much of anything from him so far.

Good to see Matsuki on the bench, I’ve liked him in the little I have seen of him.

The November fixture list looks relatively forgiving so if we can find some momentum we could start moving up the table. 

[SWLondon Saint]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Azaz will play 'from' wide, I should imagine.

We will be WIIIIIIDE open in the middle of the park, that is for sure. 

Unless Edwards is actually going to play further forward?

Nah, he didn't put Edwards in MF the other day, he put Stephens there even though he's probably worse on the ball so it'll be the back 3.

I reckon Azaz will drop back into mf when we don't have the ball to match up as they normally play 3 at the back as well.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Five at the back. I can see the fans getting on the teams back

[tdmickey3]

Just now, SWLondon Saint said:

Nah, he didn't put Edwards in MF the other day, he put Stephens there even though he's probably worse on the ball so it'll be the back 3.

I reckon Azaz will drop back into mf when we don't have the ball to match up as they normally play 3 at the back as well.

Stephens will come on later to “ bolster” the midfield later

[tdmickey3]

Just now, Willo of Whiteley said:

Five at the back. I can see the fans getting on the teams back

And rightly so

[Sheaf Saint]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

This will probably be our ugly 1 win in 5 or so...you know, because we again have a far better group of players than the opposition. That will be followed by many saying "see, SEE...it is all coming together"

[Willo of Whiteley]

All he is doing is going to add the pressure on himself

[Tommy]

7 defensive out field players in a must win home fixture.

 The cowardice continues 

 

pissing down, gonna get soaked on walk back to the car, should have just stayed home. 

[CB Fry]

4 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Rasmus Wankface is another Russell Martin, losing playing your way is more important than winning ugly. 

What "orders" are  there that involve paying 15 odd million on the best winger in the league and not playing him?

There are no "orders".

[VectisSaint]

43 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

No Welington, guess he's injured again? Thought Downes was out, or was he caught in a lie and told to stop fucking around as he's under contract?

Welington's suspended

[hypochondriac]

Let's say we played four at the back and he lost. He'd be under pressure but at least he would have tried to do the right thing. If he loses now he's really left himself open to relentless abuse.

[Tommy]

Last time it was this wet Leicester put 9 past us. 

[saintant]

11 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I think it’s pretty fucking clear he is following orders with the formation. 
 

His comments this week about 4-2-3-1 being his favourite formation underline that for me. 
 

 

If this is true he needs to have the balls to call out those at the club who are telling him what formation to play. Personally I think he's deciding on 3 centre halves but I have no idea why he's persisting with it.

[Tommy]

[Willo of Whiteley]

Osmajic is absolutely going to bully our defence, and Flynn Downes is definitely getting a yellow card along the way.

[Saint NL]

Just now, Willo of Whiteley said:

Flynn Downes is definitely getting a yellow card along the way.

Thats pretty much guaranteed every Saturday, like Manning getting caught out of position

[egg]

44 minutes ago, saintstowin said:

Fellows for a CB and that's the team. But Will Still will still not.

Yep. Or Aribo up top and AA off the right. Either way, a 4231 or 433. 

[obelisk]

2 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Absolute shower!

[sockeye]

Just now, obelisk said:

Absolute shower!

That's coming in about 20 minutes actually

[Osvaldorama]

At home to Preston with 7 defensive players on the pitch. 
 

Absolutely fucking mind boggling 

[OttawaSaint]

If the 3CBs was working then fine, continue with it but it hasn't. No reason not to go to a 4.

This is maddening.

Why have been subjected to some of the most stubborn twats on the planet as managers?

[die Mannyschaft]

12 minutes ago, Tommy said:

Last time it was this wet Leicester put 9 past us. 

 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

At home to Preston with 7 defensive players on the pitch. 
 

Absolutely fucking mind boggling 

Look, we can talk about tactics all day but when you deploy a hybrid wingback, and you look to stop feeling sorry for yourself, we can turn this around.

[Cuddles]

Bollocks to this, I'm going to put my trainers on and do some Davina Fit instead of listening to this likely car crash.

[Saint NL]

Just now, Cuddles said:

Bollocks to this, I'm going to put my trainers on and do some Davina Fit instead of listening to this likely car crash.

Anyone got a stream for this?

[Midfield_General]

26 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I think it’s pretty fucking clear he is following orders with the formation. 
 

His comments this week about 4-2-3-1 being his favourite formation underline that for me. 
 

 

When it so clearly isn't working, what are these orders from on high - 'make sure you lose every week and get us relegated'?