January Transfer Window

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, franniesTache said:

If what i was told on saturday is right, and i've no reason to not believe it, we're planning on spending big in the January window. Saying that though spending big doesn't mean a hell of a lot with SR, it could just mean we over pay for players that don't improve the team.

But we already have Downs! Who else could the amazing SR recruitment team possibly think we'd need? 🙂

[Matthew Le God]

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

13 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

I don’t think his World Cup chances were ever born really 😂

[S-Clarke]

I note the George Long argument has cropped up again, in that a third choice keeper isn't meant to be better than the 1st or 2nd etc etc.

A bunch of you are absolutely missing the point, once again - as you did in the summer, whereby it was proclaimed that 'Bazunu is fine for the Championship'.

The original point from the summer still stands. We didn't need a third choice goalkeeper, that's the whole point. We needed/still need a 1st choice keeper. Then McCarthy/Bazunu become 2nd and 3rd choice.

[AlexLaw76]

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I note the George Long argument has cropped up again, in that a third choice keeper isn't meant to be better than the 1st or 2nd etc etc.

A bunch of you are absolutely missing the point, once again - as you did in the summer, whereby it was proclaimed that 'Bazunu is fine for the Championship'.

The original point from the summer still stands. We didn't need a third choice goalkeeper, that's the whole point. We needed/still need a 1st choice keeper. Then McCarthy/Bazunu become 2nd and 3rd choice.

We had / have people saying we won’t / can’t buy a relatively good keeper as Ramsdale is still a factor.

absolute bollox, as know it

[saintant]

5 hours ago, franniesTache said:

If what i was told on saturday is right, and i've no reason to not believe it, we're planning on spending big in the January window. Saying that though spending big doesn't mean a hell of a lot with SR, it could just mean we over pay for players that don't improve the team.

Can't see it myself. Squad is still too bloated. However, it is clear we need a goalkeeper,  a good commanding centre back, two full backs, one big unit in midfield and a big strong centre forward. We continue to be too small and weak all over the pitch.

[Willo of Whiteley]

6 hours ago, franniesTache said:

If what i was told on saturday is right, and i've no reason to not believe it, we're planning on spending big in the January window. Saying that though spending big doesn't mean a hell of a lot with SR, it could just mean we over pay for players that don't improve the team.

Calling bollocks on this immediately.

Spending big with Sport Republic doesn’t even mean spending smartly. 😂

[ally_uk]

Edoize, Downs, Aribo Out 

Tyler Dibs or Prowse in loan 

And a striker 

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Edoize, Downs, Aribo Out 

Tyler Dibs or Prowse in loan 

And a striker 

We don't need Dibling and Everton aren't sending him here. Jwp I'd like but I doubt will come. Gk is the main need.

[Gloucester Saint]

19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We don't need Dibling and Everton aren't sending him here. Jwp I'd like but I doubt will come. Gk is the main need.

That and a striker. Archer might well be off as well as Downs, barely featured this season and struggled when he has (Bristol City). I suspect clubs will still want him and think Saints haven’t utilised him properly. Only time will tell. 

[Dman]

10 hours ago, ally_uk said:

Edoize, Downs, Aribo Out 

Tyler Dibs or Prowse in loan 

And a striker 

Personally, I'd keep hold of Edozie - if he wants to be here, which granted it seems he doesn't.

He's probably the most like for like we have with Tom Fellows and if we are to flog him, it'll be for peanuts.  

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

It would be nice if Saints can find some rough around the edges striker from the lower leagues.

Makama from Norwich, I know isn't great but being a big unit upfront he knew what to do against Saints. 

Must be time that SR finally get someone decent.

[vectraman]

15 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

How much competition do you think Bettinelli offers Donnarumma and Trafford at Man City?

None at all. But with a world class number 1, and a very very good number 2, he doesn’t need to. 
 

You can’t level that at Saints. Bettenelli would comfortably be our number 1 if in our squad. Everyone before the season started knew our keepers would be weak, but SR did nothing about it. 

My point is why didn’t we get in a loan keeper/ buy a keeper who would be challenging for the number 1 shirt? Some healthy competition would not be amiss…

 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

41 minutes ago, vectraman said:

None at all. But with a world class number 1, and a very very good number 2, he doesn’t need to. 
 

You can’t level that at Saints. Bettenelli would comfortably be our number 1 if in our squad. Everyone before the season started knew our keepers would be weak, but SR did nothing about it. 

My point is why didn’t we get in a loan keeper/ buy a keeper who would be challenging for the number 1 shirt? Some healthy competition would not be amiss…

 

I think we had a limited budget and decided to strengthen other parts of the squad

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, vectraman said:

None at all. But with a world class number 1, and a very very good number 2, he doesn’t need to. 
 

You can’t level that at Saints. Bettenelli would comfortably be our number 1 if in our squad. Everyone before the season started knew our keepers would be weak, but SR did nothing about it. 

My point is why didn’t we get in a loan keeper/ buy a keeper who would be challenging for the number 1 shirt? Some healthy competition would not be amiss…

 

So why did they sign him at all?

[SylvianSylvian]

Personally I’d love to see Edozie fit & firing again for us, perfect sub for a tiring Scienza & he has most full backs in this division on toast…. 

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, SylvianSylvian said:

Personally I’d love to see Edozie fit & firing again for us, perfect sub for a tiring Scienza & he has most full backs in this division on toast…. 

You have to ask why he appears to have been overlooked by two managers in a row this season. Putting it mildly, it indicates his heart isn’t in it. 

[Badger]

2 hours ago, vectraman said:

None at all. But with a world class number 1, and a very very good number 2, he doesn’t need to. 
 

You can’t level that at Saints. Bettenelli would comfortably be our number 1 if in our squad. Everyone before the season started knew our keepers would be weak, but SR did nothing about it. 

My point is why didn’t we get in a loan keeper/ buy a keeper who would be challenging for the number 1 shirt? Some healthy competition would not be amiss…

 

Bettenelli is a good example of something that is wrong with modern football and footballers. Was very highly rated at Fulham but chose to walk away and sit on the bench as a second or third choice elsewhere for big money. 

[CamSaint]

2 hours ago, vectraman said:

Bettenelli would comfortably be our number 1 if in our squad.

City also have Ortega kicking his heels in their squad. No.2 to Ederson for 3 seasons up to the summer when they signed Donnarumma, Trafford & Bettenelli. Played 13 PL games last season, plus 6 cup games and 2CL games. Like Bettenelli, he hasn't featured at all this season. Possible 1/2 season loan if City would cover most of the wages?

Edited 5 hours ago by CamSaint
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[westmidlandsaint]

JWP with the amount of fouls Scienza wins could be an interesting proposition. Agreed GK and ideally i'd like another CF (especially if Downs goes on loan) and a commanding experience CB in an ideal world

[Badger]

Sentiment aside, where does JWP fit in to our midfield? Assuming Charles (who offers a bit more physicality) and Jander are fit ? 
 

If we go for a MF player I’d like it to be an DM to release both Charles and especially Jander who is more creative. 

[Badger]

35 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said:

JWP with the amount of fouls Scienza wins could be an interesting proposition. Agreed GK and ideally i'd like another CF (especially if Downs goes on loan) and a commanding experience CB in an ideal world

GK, CF, and commanding CB in full agreement but perhaps a bit too ambitious given what the club have publicly stated

[JohnS]

Pretty much halfway through the season & we are in Top 5 sides with most goals conceded - which is absolutely no surprise!  
Very much what we do over God knows how many seasons.  Stats that are there for everyone to see - yet we seem to settle for terrible Goalkeepers & Central Defenders 

If any money is spent in January then this must be our top priority

First & Foremost we have to be a side who is very hard to score against & for many years - we have been one of the easiest in every league we’ve been in 

[SylvianSylvian]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

You have to ask why he appears to have been overlooked by two managers in a row this season. Putting it mildly, it indicates his heart isn’t in it. 

Good point…. I just find it a bit frustrating him being sat in the bomb squad when we’re struggling for effective subs who can see out games 

[suewhistle]

1 hour ago, JohnS said:

Stats that are there for everyone to see

Sod the stats, just look at Cov's goal at the weekend; static central defence marking no one and Manning trotting slowly back in no man's land in some surprise that the winger was behind him unchallenged for the cross.

As for Edozie, isn't he (still) injured?

[Badger]

20 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

Sod the stats, just look at Cov's goal at the weekend; static central defence marking no one and Manning trotting slowly back in no man's land in some surprise that the winger was behind him unchallenged for the cross.

As for Edozie, isn't he (still) injured?

Also worth throwing in that it was Mannings half-arsed skewed clearance (trying to prevent a throw in as I recall) that gave them possession to build the attack from. 
 

Edozie - no idea, it seems the club are happy to gloss over him, I don’t recall many mentions at all. 

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, Badger said:

Also worth throwing in that it was Mannings half-arsed skewed clearance (trying to prevent a throw in as I recall) that gave them possession to build the attack from. 
 

Edozie - no idea, it seems the club are happy to gloss over him, I don’t recall many mentions at all. 

This was the prime cause of the Coventry goal. We can analyse what each player did wrong after Manning decided that he would be better off trying to keep the ball in play but the root cause of the goal was him not booting the ball into row Z. His decision was probably born out of this constant obsession to always find a team mate (I hesitate only slightly to say stemming from Russball) and, in the days before such nonsense, any fullback worth his salt would have put the ball where it can do least harm - in among the spectators.

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, saintant said:

This was the prime cause of the Coventry goal. We can analyse what each player did wrong after Manning decided that he would be better off trying to keep the ball in play but the root cause of the goal was him not booting the ball into row Z. His decision was probably born out of this constant obsession to always find a team mate (I hesitate only slightly to say stemming from Russball) and, in the days before such nonsense, any fullback worth his salt would have put the ball where it can do least harm - in among the spectators.

I can understand him trying to stop the ball going out of play in that position as it was rife for a good throw into the box. Presumably he was attempting to put it out of play further up the pitch, instead of which the stupid sod put it back into play in the danger area in front of the penalty area. Straight to a Coventry player as I recall. 
 

Not his finest moment. But not a completely isolated brainfart either 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

40 minutes ago, Badger said:

Edozie - no idea, it seems the club are happy to gloss over him, I don’t recall many mentions at all. 

He's hungry apparently, posted this a few days ago: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSX6mbljQpP/?igsh=MW5reTZ6dm10a3dmYQ==

Honestly I think he's one of the few players who could have made a difference off the bench against Coventry - he badly lacks end product but can go past players like they're not there, which is useful against a team parking the bus 

Edited 2 hours ago by Ex Lion Tamer

[suewhistle]

48 minutes ago, saintant said:

This was the prime cause of the Coventry goal.

Oh, absolutely, but once you make a mistake you bust a gut to recover and he was just ambling.

[Charlie Wayman]

59 minutes ago, saintant said:

This was the prime cause of the Coventry goal. We can analyse what each player did wrong after Manning decided that he would be better off trying to keep the ball in play but the root cause of the goal was him not booting the ball into row Z. His decision was probably born out of this constant obsession to always find a team mate (I hesitate only slightly to say stemming from Russball) and, in the days before such nonsense, any fullback worth his salt would have put the ball where it can do least harm - in among the spectators.

Spot on. You cold see the goal coming as soon as he passed to the Coventry player and sre enough that phase of paly ended in the back of our net. Manning is a liability, he can't defend and 90% of his crosses are useless. The odd goal or two he has scored weighed against the many more times he has missed should not be a sufficient reason to make him an automatic starting choice. If he is the best we can do at full back then we are up sh8t street.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

He's hungry apparently, posted this a few days ago: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSX6mbljQpP/?igsh=MW5reTZ6dm10a3dmYQ==

Honestly I think he's one of the few players who could have made a difference off the bench against Coventry - he badly lacks end product but can go past players like they're not there, which is useful against a team parking the bus 

Shooting practice without a goalkeeper - that must really teach him a lot 🙂

[skintsaint]

45 minutes ago, saintant said:

Shooting practice without a goalkeeper - that must really teach him a lot 🙂

not seen the clip, guessing Baz is in goal?