New Manager Thread

[Badger]

37 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

An experienced manager, positive football style with strong ties to the club and who fans would get behind, seems ideal for a short term appointment. Think O’Neill at Celtic.

the summer now seems the much better time to be trying to get the right long term pick made.

I like your reasoning, I really do, but this is where I think the sentiment comes in, heart ruling head. 

Adkins was great for us at the time. But time has moved on. He’s had more ‘downs’ than ‘ups’ since leaving.
 

When he was here last time he had an ambitious squad eager to climb the league. These fuckers ??? Will the players respect him here now ? That’s questionable no matter how he has fans on his side. 
 

As Lord Duckhunter points out the comparison  with O’Neill at Celtic just doesn’t stand up. 

[Galway saint]

Sammy Saint with Mary Saint as his assistant makes a lot of sense right now with Tonda and the new bloke from dream academy taking over their match day duties 

 

 

[Dr Who?]

6 minutes ago, Badger said:

I like your reasoning, I really do, but this is where I think the sentiment comes in, heart ruling head. 

Adkins was great for us at the time. But time has moved on. He’s had more ‘downs’ than ‘ups’ since leaving.
 

When he was here last time he had an ambitious squad eager to climb the league. These fuckers ??? Will the players respect him here now ? That’s questionable no matter how he has fans on his side. 
 

As Lord Duckhunter points out the comparison  with O’Neill at Celtic just doesn’t stand up. 

We also had owners that had a clear plan, and there was a togetherness from the new age of Southampton Football Club. Anyone coming in under the current set up will struggle. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

We won’t be changing the manager again this season. Or certainly until the play offs are unreachable.

A bit like how we waited until the day after relegation was confirmed to sack Ivan Juric.

[HKsaint]

He will only be sacked after our relegation is confirmed.

[Farmer Saint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgrdqer05exo

[Baird of the land]

20 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgrdqer05exo

frank isn't going to drop down to this level even if he becomes available

[Farmer Saint]

2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

frank isn't going to drop down to this level even if he becomes available

I know, it was tongue in cheek.

[Badger]

17 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgrdqer05exo

Seems pointless just dropping that link in here. Even if sacked at Spurs Frank will be linked with better and more prestigious jobs than mid-table Championship. 
 

People will point to the Danish and Brentford connection. But despite the passport, his time at Brentford will have given him firsthand insight into Rasmus being a knob. 
 

Interesting question from Frank though, which is the real one ? The organised team manager at Brentford or the bloke who was all at sea with Spurs ? Perhaps his time at Brentford was a success due to the structure (and recruitment) put in place by others (Giles). This isn’t meant to start a discussion on the merits of Frank - it’s irrelevant to us - but highlights the difficulty in assessing a manager/head coaches achievements at earlier clubs. 
 

 

[S-Clarke]

13 hours ago, Turkish said:

The current list of available candidates is pretty uninspiring. Gerrard and Viera probably the two standouts. I can’t see SR paying out more compensation for anyone employed or anyone half decent who would leave a job to come of this shit show

Sadly, the more damage they inflict on us (which has accelerated hugely this season), the less chance we have of ever appointing named or well known somewhat experienced managers.

It will be promising L1/L2 managers at a push which will be our ballpark come the summer. Obviously we didn't do too badly with Adkins, but it's a totally different context now. There's no new manager who fixes this IMO.

[Wade Garrett]

Most important thing about a new manager is the fucking idiots who identified Still and Eckert have no influence in choosing the next one.

No more laptop wankers please.

[Saint NL]

2 hours ago, Badger said:

Seems pointless just dropping that link in here. Even if sacked at Spurs Frank will be linked with better and more prestigious jobs than mid-table Championship. 
 

I dunno, reckon he'd fit in well at Saints

😂

[hypochondriac]

If stoke or Millwall fail to go up I'd look to appoint Mark Robins or Alex Neil. 

[AlexLaw76]

20 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If stoke or Millwall fail to go up I'd look to appoint Mark Robins or Alex Neil. 

Proper championship managers, who have a good track record of getting the most out of the majority of players .

it has to be next season. Not Tonda, Wilfred Nancy or some other dickhead with no experience of high level football/championship football

 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Proper championship managers, who have a good track record of getting the most out of the majority of players .

it has to be next season. Not Tonda, Wilfred Nancy or some other dickhead with no experience of high level football/championship football

 

Neither are a sect choice but both are effective and have performed better with less high profile players. That's the type of manager I'd be targeting.

[badgerx16]

18 hours ago, Saint Neil said:

Something smells off

[SW11_Saint]

If he goes we should be poised to pounce. We won’t though of course.

[tdmickey3]

19 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

If he goes we should be poised to pounce. We won’t though of course.

We could “pounce” as much as we like but he will not come here, no chance, especially so soon after a sacking to give up his payoff

[Lord Duckhunter]

42 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

If he goes we should be poised to pounce. We won’t though of course.

Don’t be ridiculous, that ship sailed years ago. There was no chance he’d leave Brentford for a club of our size and there’s less chance he’d do so after spurs 

Edited 22 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[Saint Pete]

53 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

If he goes we should be poised to pounce. We won’t though of course.

It's a nice dream but that's all it is unfortunately given how far we have fallen now. 

[SaintsfanSwindon]

Neil or Robins are good shouts - proper, decent football managers with Championship experience. Would SR pay the money to get them though? I genuinely think a revitalised Ralph would come back and do a great job. A wild card would be Gareth Southgate - would he be tempted to look at it as a long term ‘project’ (although hate that word!) of building the club back up. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 minutes ago, SaintsfanSwindon said:

A wild card would be Gareth Southgate - would he be tempted to look at it as a long term ‘project

No, he wouldn’t. 

[hypochondriac]

21 minutes ago, SaintsfanSwindon said:

Neil or Robins are good shouts - proper, decent football managers with Championship experience. Would SR pay the money to get them though? I genuinely think a revitalised Ralph would come back and do a great job. A wild card would be Gareth Southgate - would he be tempted to look at it as a long term ‘project’ (although hate that word!) of building the club back up. 

No to Ralph or Gareth both would be awful.

[Dirkdiggler]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

No to Ralph or Gareth both would be awful.

Awful? Both better than our previous number of managers though. 

[Harry_SFC]

Previously I'd have said no to Ralph coming back but given our current state I would certainly take him. No chance it would ever happen with SR in place though.

He wouldn't take any shit, plays 4 at the back and isn't fixated on passing the ball backwards and sideways for 90 minutes.

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Harry_SFC

[SW11_Saint]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Don’t be ridiculous, that ship sailed years ago. There was no chance he’d leave Brentford for a club of our size and there’s less chance he’d do so after spurs 

I doubt very much he’d join us - but the reality is, he won’t get another ‘big 6’ job, so he’s back in the realms of the middle-sized clubs, but there are likely candidates in the PL (eg Palace).  I can dream though… 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

I doubt very much he’d join us - but the reality is, he won’t get another ‘big 6’ job, so he’s back in the realms of the middle-sized clubs, but there are likely candidates in the PL (eg Palace).  I can dream though… 

Crystal Palace have his name written all over it, assuming they don't completely implode and get relegated

[SW11_Saint]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Crystal Palace have his name written all over it, assuming they don't completely implode and get relegated

Could be a manager swap…(Spurs/Palace)

[Willo of Whiteley]

6 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

If stoke or Millwall fail to go up I'd look to appoint Mark Robins or Alex Neil. 

It’s mentalist it that people like Alex Neil are now getting the approval rating from Saints fans.

This isn’t a dis towards Hypo, it’s purely indicative of how far we have fallen.
We have fallen so far that we’ll take any relative low end EFL manager now over the PE teacher.

[hypochondriac]

16 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It’s mentalist it that people like Alex Neil are now getting the approval rating from Saints fans.

This isn’t a dis towards Hypo, it’s purely indicative of how far we have fallen.
We have fallen so far that we’ll take any relative low end EFL manager now over the PE teacher.

He's much better than what we have now. One of our problems is we turn our noses up at half decent championship managers because we consider ourselves too good for them. 

[St. Ciervo]

Like Nathan Jones?

[SW11_Saint]

14 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

If he goes we should be poised to pounce. We won’t though of course.

Christ, according to the Spurs Forum he’s on £8m a year!! So they’ll have to negotiate paying off c.£28m!!

He won’t be desperate to rush into any other job…

[Toadhall Saint]

10 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

He's much better than what we have now. One of our problems is we turn our noses up at half decent championship managers because we consider ourselves too good for them. 

True - also got to remember that they would not have had the budget to work with that they would have at saints.

[Saint Scott]

My take...

Tonda, as others have eluded to, is completely out of his depth and been put in a position he is in no way ready for. I'd like to see him shifted back to the U21s at the earliest opportunity.

Our squad need some serious home truths. Stop acting like pre madonnas, the least we expect as a fan base is willing and effort! 

We need a seasoned manager in the interim to ruffle some feathers and enforce accountability.

Neil Warnock would be the man for me until the summer. He would take zero BS, lay down the law and I genuinely believe if he were to come in tomorrow, a playoff spot isn't out of the realms of possibility this season.

Clearly, he is not a yes man or willing to bend the knee to our SR overlords so this is why it will never happen, but it should!

 

[Charlie Wayman]

18 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

If he goes we should be poised to pounce. We won’t though of course.

Palace's boss Oliver Glasner is about to quit as well. He's the one we should go for, he has turned Palace into a half decent side and he is German so should be in Spors sight.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Palace's boss Oliver Glasner is about to quit as well. He's the one we should go for, he has turned Palace into a half decent side and he is German so should be in Spors sight.

Agreed let’s get him in, he’d crawl over broken glass for our job 

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Palace's boss Oliver Glasner is about to quit as well. He's the one we should go for, he has turned Palace into a half decent side and he is German

He isn't German

[S-Clarke]

I think Pep will quit in the summer, so we should hold out for him. Ditto Thomas Frank, worth holding out for him.

Have I dreamt the last 4 years and we're actually still a mid-table PL club? I'm sure some fans still see us as one of those, managerial expectations are well skewed. 

[Patches O Houlihan]

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think Pep will quit in the summer, so we should hold out for him. Ditto Thomas Frank, worth holding out for him.

Have I dreamt the last 4 years and we're actually still a mid-table PL club? I'm sure some fans still see us as one of those, managerial expectations are well skewed. 

Yes I agree I think we should get Pep as manager, and Thomas Frank as his assistant. I'm sure they would get on just fine with SR senior staff and there would be no conflicts. Let's see if we can get Mo Salah in before the Jan transfer window closes.

 

[tdmickey3]

23 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Palace's boss Oliver Glasner is about to quit as well. He's the one we should go for, he has turned Palace into a half decent side and he is German so should be in Spors sight.

Have you been drinking?

 

[coalman]

34 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Agreed let’s get him in, our job is a lot like crawling over broken glass 

Fixed that for you 😉

[Charlie Wayman]

16 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Have you been drinking?

 

🤞

[saintant]

27 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think Pep will quit in the summer, so we should hold out for him. Ditto Thomas Frank, worth holding out for him.

Have I dreamt the last 4 years and we're actually still a mid-table PL club? I'm sure some fans still see us as one of those, managerial expectations are well skewed. 

Here's an idea. Why doesn't Ankersen just appoint himself as manager because he's pretty much doing the job anyway. Guess he's frightened he might have to sack himself after 6 games. What a result that would be for us fans 🙂

[Charlie Wayman]

38 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

He isn't German

He's German to me!

 

[coalman]

3 minutes ago, saintant said:

Here's an idea. Why doesn't Ankersen just appoint himself as manager because he's pretty much doing the job anyway. Guess he's frightened he might have to sack himself after 6 games. What a result that would be for us fans 🙂

Getting coaching badges is time consuming and distracts from the important work of being a disruptive entrepreneur. Far simpler to hire someone cheap and compliant that already has a badge to enact your grand vision.

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, coalman said:

Getting coaching badges is time consuming and distracts from the important work of being a disruptive entrepreneur. Far simpler to hire someone cheap and compliant that already has a badge to enact your grand vision.

Surely his superb books (found in the fiction section of all good book stores) plus his erudite, informative public speeches should be enough to mean he can forego bothering with coaching badges. Plus the history of what brilliant work he's done so far in the sphere of football.

[Osvaldorama]

7 hours ago, St. Ciervo said:

Like Nathan Jones?

He said ‘half decent’ championship managers 

[Patches O Houlihan]

2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

He said ‘half decent’ championship managers 

Technically Nathan Jones is half as good as a decent Championship manager... 🤔

Edited 3 hours ago by Patches O Houlihan

[tdmickey3]

17 minutes ago, saintant said:

Surely his superb books (found in the fiction section of all good book stores) plus his erudite, informative public speeches should be enough to mean he can forego bothering with coaching badges. Plus the history of what brilliant work he's done so far in the sphere of football.

Is his new book out yet/

"How to be an utterly stupid deluded cunt"

[coalman]

2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Is his new book out yet/

"How to be an utterly stupid deluded cunt"

In which he explains that Southampton's current struggles are a necessary part of restructuring the club into the pure engine of footballing innovation it needs to be. TRUST. THE. PROCESS.