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franniesTache

franniesTache

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34 minutes ago, Gingeletiss said:

Or LeTiss supporting Spurs as a kid.

Why would anyone care if Le Tiss supported Spurs?

 

42 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I think if there was the slightest indication of antagonisation towards us since joining our academy, I'd understand your viewpoint better. But it's been decades. If there is a hint of mercenary attitude, that's not really the same thing.

I wonder if Spurs supporters feel the same about Harry Kane being a former Arsenal supporter.

 

 

Fairly sure that the Kane/Arsenal thing was shown not to be true wasn't it?

CB Fry

CB Fry

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28 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Why would anyone care if Le Tiss supported Spurs?

er, you care, obviously....

3 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Yup not sure what relevance that has now, unless you think the side you support changes as you get older?

Le Tiss is Spurs fan and always will be right? Why on earth we let him into St Mary's I'll never know.

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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6 hours ago, CB Fry said:

For professional football players then yes of course it does. Absolutely bizarre that you need that explaining when there are famous examples of that very thing. 

Jamie Carragher hates Liverpool FFS!

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franniesTache

franniesTache

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23 hours ago, CB Fry said:

er, you care, obviously....

Le Tiss is Spurs fan and always will be right? Why on earth we let him into St Mary's I'll never know.

Yeah because being a skate and being spurs are exactly the same 🤣

Obviously I couldn't give a shit if Le Tiss supported spurs in the same way I don't give a shit about who Ron Davies supported.

The skates is a different matter, and your straw man is bollocks.

Prowse was born in a PO postcode, his family are season ticket holders there, he was a season ticket holder there, he was a mascot for them at a game, he said their FA Cup win was one of his favourite days and he said Andy Awford was his favourite player.

For a fanbase that bangs on about hating the skates a lot of people really fucking don't do they?

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OldNick

OldNick

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On 12/02/2025 at 21:51, Ted Bates Statue said:

I wasn't convinced by this argument so I went to find video evidence in the only derby match he's ever been in, under the theory that out of our four goals without reply he didn't score or assist any and didn't even celebrate once.

I invite my fellow posters to watch this damning footage for themselves and make their own judgement as to whether we were harbouring a dirty skate in our XI that night.

 

 

A couple of things, McCarthy did 2 saves early that made a massive diference to the night. The quality of the team comparedto now, with the grit in midfield and of course quality upfront

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Ted Bates Statue

Ted Bates Statue

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1 hour ago, franniesTache said:

his family are season ticket holders there

Think that might be a Portsmyth that you're buying into rather enthusiastically. Is there any evidence that his family have bothered to go to Fratton Park in the last 10-15 years, except when Saints are there to give them a thrashing?

And re their FA cup win, he was a kid back then but he grew up soon after and decided he wanted to be a Saint. He literally went through the thought process outlined in the re-worded Que Sera Sera song that some of us sing at every opportunity and went for Southampton instead.

 

On 13/02/2025 at 15:39, franniesTache said:

Why would anyone care if Le Tiss supported Spurs?

 

Fairly sure that the Kane/Arsenal thing was shown not to be true wasn't it?

Sorry forgot to reply to this.

There's literally a photo of Kane in Arsenal kit celebrating the Invincibles season with his hair dyed red, think there is a decent parallel.

Also MLT is a secret North London Yobbo and I'm not sure I'm ok with it. It's bad enough they steal our song, let alone the heart of our greatest player.

 

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CB Fry

CB Fry

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3 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Yeah because being a skate and being spurs are exactly the same 🤣

Obviously I couldn't give a shit if Le Tiss supported spurs in the same way I don't give a shit about who Ron Davies supported.

The skates is a different matter, and your straw man is bollocks.

Prowse was born in a PO postcode, his family are season ticket holders there, he was a season ticket holder there, he was a mascot for them at a game, he said their FA Cup win was one of his favourite days and he said Andy Awford was his favourite player.

For a fanbase that bangs on about hating the skates a lot of people really fucking don't do they?

You've already done the Andy Awford stuff you fucking weirdo. 

 

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EssEffCee

EssEffCee

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On 12/02/2025 at 21:51, Ted Bates Statue said:

I wasn't convinced by this argument so I went to find video evidence in the only derby match he's ever been in, under the theory that out of our four goals without reply he didn't score or assist any and didn't even celebrate once.

I invite my fellow posters to watch this damning footage for themselves and make their own judgement as to whether we were harbouring a dirty skate in our XI that night.

 

 

Bloody hell we were lucky to not concede early on weren't we. Never seen those early chances before having only arrived at the ground not long before the first goal.

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Turkish

Turkish

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On 14/02/2025 at 15:56, franniesTache said:

Yeah because being a skate and being spurs are exactly the same 🤣

Obviously I couldn't give a shit if Le Tiss supported spurs in the same way I don't give a shit about who Ron Davies supported.

The skates is a different matter, and your straw man is bollocks.

Prowse was born in a PO postcode, his family are season ticket holders there, he was a season ticket holder there, he was a mascot for them at a game, he said their FA Cup win was one of his favourite days and he said Andy Awford was his favourite player.

For a fanbase that bangs on about hating the skates a lot of people really fucking don't do they?

You’ve obviously forgotten about the massive rivalry we have with spurs which started around 2001. We really hate them and would often sing songs about how much we hated them at matches back then. We’d also spitefully and hilariously call them nicknames like Spuds. Pure hatred so anyone connected with spuds is a no for me

Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

You’ve obviously forgotten about the massive rivalry we have with spurs which started around 2001. We really hate them and would often sing songs about how much we hated them at matches back then. We’d also spitefully and hilariously call them nicknames like Spuds. Pure hatred so anyone connected with spuds is a no for me

And the scathing 'North London yobbos'. Mustn't forget that nugget.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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39 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I watched that earlier, it’s shameful really!

JWP was a great servant but it highlights how one dimensional/one paced/lacking physical presence we’d become as a midfield unit. He will do a job as a squad player for the Hammers but his peak was with us and briefly with them at the start.

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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Imagine laughing at a player who’s just bust a gut running from his own six yard box to the halfway line, at the end of a 99 minute battle with Rice, Partey and Odegaard, to help his side see out a win at the Emirates.

I’d take him over some of the utterly pathetic attempts I’ve seen from our own players to track the runners who stroll casually through our midfield.

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austsaint

austsaint

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3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Imagine laughing at a player who’s just bust a gut running from his own six yard box to the halfway line, at the end of a 99 minute battle with Rice, Partey and Odegaard, to help his side see out a win at the Emirates.

I’d take him over some of the utterly pathetic attempts I’ve seen from our own players to track the runners who stroll casually through our midfield.

JWP would be handy for us in the Championship, but it obviously won’t happen.   His days as a starting Prem midfielder are well behind him. You have to marvel at  the way he has continued to command such a high salary, starting with the 100k (pw) plus he was on in our relegation season given his limited output, free kicks included recently.   

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Appy

Appy

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51 minutes ago, austsaint said:

JWP would be handy for us in the Championship, but it obviously won’t happen.   His days as a starting Prem midfielder are well behind him. You have to marvel at  the way he has continued to command such a high salary, starting with the 100k (pw) plus he was on in our relegation season given his limited output, free kicks included recently.   

He started on Saturday in a win at Arsenal. 

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Guest

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Graham Potter recalled him after joining West Ham and has gone into every match day squad since.

He’s obviously valued.

Not world class but he is several classes above the shite we have nowadays.

The Kraken

The Kraken

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10 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Graham Potter recalled him after joining West Ham and has gone into every match day squad since.

He’s obviously valued.

Not world class but he is several classes above the shite we have nowadays.

Of course he is. Not even in doubt. I actually really like JWP and couldn’t give a flying fig about his Pompey connection.

But that clip of him getting undone by a goalkeeper is funny, no matter how much an overly sensitive prickly moron stamps his feet about it being shown.

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austsaint

austsaint

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1 hour ago, Appy said:

He started on Saturday in a win at Arsenal. 

Yes, fair enough - perhaps what I should have said was that  even with the lifeline Potter has given him, he likely won’t start many Prem games in the future.  It will be interesting to see what happens with him in the summer.   My broader point is one of admiration of JWP.  He has maximised his earning power; his premier league appearances; England representation (senior and age level) through technical skills, graft and hard work, rather than athleticism or silky skills.    Some credit to Ralph who kickstarted a stalling career.

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It's There

It's There

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I really like JWP. Every team, especially Saints, need a hardworking midfielder. He would make a big difference in our team- though he can't do everyything on his own!!! His experience and know how, fitness etc would be great. If he came back, I'd expect him to be a leader, by example. Sadly, I suspect he won't be reurning as he'll remain in the premier league and we probably can't afford his wages and a fee in excess of £25million.

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OldNick

OldNick

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Heisno doubt a hard worker but he is typical product of ourclub in themidfield area, runs around a lot, doesnt make a killer passand has no physiche or pace.

Even the Arsenal keeper outpaced him over 50 yards lol. He has done well earning 100k pw by looking decent in a poor Saints team, he left at the first opportunity, like Ings and all the other arses who we believe love the club but we weak minded fools fall for it time and agian. That includes me, 

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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31 minutes ago, It's There said:

I really like JWP. Every team, especially Saints, need a hardworking midfielder. He would make a big difference in our team- though he can't do everyything on his own!!! His experience and know how, fitness etc would be great. If he came back, I'd expect him to be a leader, by example. Sadly, I suspect he won't be reurning as he'll remain in the premier league and we probably can't afford his wages and a fee in excess of £25million.

He’d be first on the team sheet but no chance even if West Ham funded half of the wages. Potter is using him more and I suspect he’ll feature in their squads over the next 18 months. Good luck to him and I hope he regains his place there going forward. 

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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Where is this idea coming from that all goalkeepers must definitely be very slow? It’s not 1973 any more, keepers aren’t just the fat kid who was too crap to play outfield at school. Raya is a 29 year old, 6ft professional athlete on one of the toughest fitness and diet regimes in professional sport and unlike JWP hasn’t spent the whole game tirelessly chasing around in midfield.

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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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24 minutes ago, BarberSaint said:

But regardless, we know JWP's weaknesses and a number of them were highlighted in that clip which showed him being bested by a player whose job is to save things.

But he wasn’t ’bested’, was he? Of all his teammates JWP was the first there by a long way.

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

But he wasn’t ’bested’, was he? Of all his teammates JWP was the first there by a long way.

Only because he had a 10 yard head start. He was “running” with the hand break on…

Always  been over rated by some on here , he’s out sprinter by a keeper, who then does a little trick to deceive him, before winning the slide tackle and knocking it up the line. He couldn’t even foul him properly…..😂😂😂

CB Fry

CB Fry

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The only thing that needs saying is where JWP is sprinting back to fight to get WHU over the line in the final minutes of a tough away game, you can rest assured then none of the lazy entitled cunts that play for us would break sweat to bother to do that. 

JWP would out run the fucking lot of them because they wouldn't bother.

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BarberSaint

BarberSaint

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3 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

But he wasn’t ’bested’, was he? Of all his teammates JWP was the first there by a long way.

Well he was by the bloke in yellow.  He was also further out and had less distance to run than the others including the bloke in yellow who actually overtook him by a margin and then slowed down to back heel it before JWP threw himself at him.

 

By your phrasing, everyone else in the stadium would have to be included but patently the competition was between the two who ultimately went for the ball, not the others on the pitch so yes, he was 'bested'.

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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1 hour ago, BarberSaint said:

Well he was by the bloke in yellow.  He was also further out and had less distance to run than the others including the bloke in yellow who actually overtook him by a margin and then slowed down to back heel it before JWP threw himself at him.

 

By your phrasing, everyone else in the stadium would have to be included but patently the competition was between the two who ultimately went for the ball, not the others on the pitch so yes, he was 'bested'.

I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.

It all depends on what the respective players’ aims are.

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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25 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

Fucking hell.

I've just read that Prowse is allegedly on £115,000 a week at West Ham.

His agent had them over there.

Did we offer him £100k a week?

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swedish dave

swedish dave

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....or so it seems. .  A move back to SMS was much-vaunted in the summer, but now we can see that..." ...it 'aint gonna happen."

Last night, I watched Sunderland clinically dissect a very-poor Burnley outfit.  Prowsey looked sadly on from the bench, whilst Scott Parker

frantically tugged on his gum.  Parker's appointment as Burnley manager might please his bank manager, but won't look good on his CV by May

- or even before that, if he doesn't last out the season. "Prowsey" will be there - until the end of the season, and I wonder what his thoughts are 

as he looks on, realising that Burnley already have one foot in the drop zone, and next season offers nothing more than a place in the Championship.

 

JWP's place in Saints' history is almost unique, and although his near 400 games aren't a club record, his long service to the club was marked by 

a player who had always played "above his age", and he is amongst the youngest Saints players to make a Premier League debut (at age 17- in 2012).

His career was often criticised by certain fans on this site - for lacking whatever they saw as his shortcomings - whilst his Prem. stats show that he

is superior to many of his contemporaries  (like Jack Grealish, who warranted  100 million transfer, yet showed no real improvement whilst at Man City).

 

Prowsey's performances (like playing every minute in two Prem. seasons), and his 16+ Prem. free-kick goals are just stats. in the Saints record book.

His reluctant move was a last ditch attempt to maintain Prem. status, (and his place in the LAST World Cup squad) was to no avail. David Moyes recognised

his talent, and signed him for WHam, (where he clocked up  8 goals and 8 assists) - not a bad return for ANY Prem. midfielder, before Moyes was

unceremoniously sacked by an unforgiving Board even after winning their first trophy in 40-odd  years. Subsequent  managers came and went, changing

formations leaving JWP was out in the cold, and their current manager is on thin ice having ditched Prowsey, as WHam (like Burnley) look set for the drop. 

 

For those Saints fans who appreciated him, any thoughts of a .." Prodigal's return" was never going to happen.  Ignored by Will Still, and everyone in the 

current management, who quite simply - had never seen him play, has led to us ignoring him.. yet again.  I believe(?).. his current WHam contract still

has one year to run, by which time any thoughts of a return to Saints will (fairly obviously) have disappeared, while we still struggle to replace his talent.

 

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