Saints Expelled from Playoffs

[Midfield_General]

4 minutes ago, dsrdorset said:

educate yourself. You will thank me (and Matt) in due course. Goodnight. 

Night night sweetheart.

Don't let the chem trails bite x

[die Mannyschaft]

Hull want to get final cancelled and then say they should go up. That sounds good to me then Boro in championship 

[egg]

Just now, Bolokov said:

Only one man can save us now... Someone find which rock Cortese has been living under.

When you need normal and respected, which we do, Cortese is not the answer. 

[MB]

Any idea how long before this report comes out? 

[SWLondon Saint]

1 minute ago, Mr X said:

The sad thing is we will forever from this point be remembered and refered to at every single point possible by commentators and the media as the despicable club that cheated no matter what we do to try and improve our image may as well rename us the sinners... The knock on effect will be huge players just won't perform well under that pressure, booed by every single club we face for ever more.... What were the club thinking to take the risk and all for nothing! 

Nah, everyone forgot about Leeds pretty much straightaway, and the fact is the spying was so incompetent people will just laugh about it which is all you can do, really.

[egg]

Just now, MB said:

Any idea how long before this report comes out? 

Report?

[a1ex2001]

11 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

He'll go back to Germany. The clubs sniffing around him will be glad they don't have to pay us for the privilege 

The 12 month ban the FA hand out will likely apply globally, UEFA and FIFA only support cheating if it makes them rich and Tonda doesn’t have the Wonga for that!

[Bolokov]

1 minute ago, egg said:

When you need normal and respected, which we do, Cortese is not the answer. 

Fuck normal and respected. We need someone to get shit done to make sure we survive!

[HarvSFC]

This summer, a good start will be being active early, and not leaving our summer business to five games into the season on September 1st as always.

[RedArmy]

3 minutes ago, Mr X said:

booed by every single club we face for ever more.... 

Fucking hell 

 

 

[MB]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Report?

Submissions etc are to be made available by the efl 

[Mboto Gorge]

11 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Surely Parsons has got to go as well - if that description of what happened at Boro is correct, he's basically a boy scout in the shark tank. He thought we could 'do a Bielsa' which is just pure stupidity. Protecting the poor little analyst worked well, didn't it? - when he was always going to cop a ban, the other thing Parsons succeeded in doing was expanding the blast radius of the damage to the entire club.

Just the sheer incompetence of the whole thing is mind boggling. Never put down to conspiracy what can be explained by sheer stupidity....

The Frank Spencer of CEO’s. Absolute chump 

[egg]

Just now, Bolokov said:

Fuck normal and respected. We need someone to get shit done to make sure we survive!

We need to get some respect back to the club, and a bloke who was not respected in the game, ain't the answer. 

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, Mr X said:

The sad thing is we will forever from this point be remembered and refered to at every single point possible by commentators and the media as the despicable club that cheated no matter what we do to try and improve our image may as well rename us the sinners... The knock on effect will be huge players just won't perform well under that pressure, booed by every single club we face for ever more.... What were the club thinking to take the risk and all for nothing! 

There's plenty of bigger cheats than us knocking around and their misdemeanours are rarely mentioned.

[Roo1976]

10 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Precisely. They've made a rod for their own back now. Will be interesting to see where this goes next because we haven't heard the last of it, that's for sure.

we have cause Chelsea, City are premiere league not F.A league, 2 differing governance.

[Badger]

9 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Surely Parsons has got to go as well - if that description of what happened at Boro is correct, he's basically a boy scout in the shark tank. He thought we could 'do a Bielsa' which is just pure stupidity. Protecting the poor little analyst worked well, didn't it? - when he was always going to cop a ban, the other thing Parsons succeeded in doing was expanding the blast radius of the damage to the entire club.

Just the sheer incompetence of the whole thing is mind boggling. Never put down to conspiracy what can be explained by sheer stupidity....

Yes, out of his depth it seems. Commercial Operations, fine perhaps but he isn’t someone to head up a Football Club with any ambition or drive. 
 

Bring in a figurehead, a Cortese (or even a Rupert ???), Krueger even - despite the bullshit and some of his phrases - provided a more credible focal point. 

[SWLondon Saint]

1 minute ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Hull want to get final cancelled and then say they should go up. That sounds good to me then Boro in championship 

To be entirely honest, I didn't fancy our chances against Hull as McBurnie just had the beating of our centre backs. I would argue they're slight favourites over Boro no matter what the betting odds are.

[Badger]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

There's plenty of bigger cheats than us knocking around and their misdemeanours are rarely mentioned.

Yes but not the point.

And they haven’t been caught with their trousers down in the way we have. 

[Whitey Grandad]

4 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Nah, everyone forgot about Leeds pretty much straightaway, and the fact is the spying was so incompetent people will just laugh about it which is all you can do, really.

There will be some sympathy on account of the preposterous punishment. 

[egg]

Just now, MB said:

Submissions etc are to be made available by the efl 

Gotcha. I've know written reasons from panels/tribunals arrive anywhere from same day to weeks later. Given the eyes on this case, I'd guess it'll be in the next few days, but it'll be what it'll be. 

[SNSUN]

3 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

This summer, a good start will be being active early, and not leaving our summer business to five games into the season on September 1st as always.

I agree but seeing as we'll likely have no management structure in place, and possibly owners wanting to sell up, I think you may be disappointed there. 

[sfc4prem]

Less needs to be made of the offence itself. We've checked up on some training sessions. 

The biggest shame, the thing that really twists rhe fucking knife of being expelled from the final, is that we'll lose some bloody decent players (and humans) to other clubs now. Nae chance we'll keep hold of some of them. Big rebuild task.

The EFL came down on us like a tonne of fucking bricks. Feels unjust. 

We've been -10 in League One, though. We can go again... hopefully without SR.

[SWLondon Saint]

Also, I managed not to watch a single minute of the last world cup in Sportswashing Desert Land so I feel it would be inconsistent of me not to do the same for Wannabe Fascist Land.

Wife will be happy over the summer anyway!

[saintant]

Just now, Badger said:

Yes but not the point.

And they haven’t been caught with their trousers down in the way we have. 

Cheating is cheating. They've done far worse than us and benefited a great deal more than a little bit of spying over a fence. Mountain out of a molehill for me.

[Roo1976]

just think i got through to the BBCs  Nicky Campbell show this morning and was absolutely gobsmacked at the expulsion from the competition,mind boggling.

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

9 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Hull want to get final cancelled and then say they should go up. That sounds good to me then Boro in championship 

I want this saga to end with Boro tears

[Sheaf Saint]

3 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

we have cause Chelsea, City are premiere league not F.A league, 2 differing governance.

Not sure what that's got to do with it.

I was referring to the inevitable legal challenges that will follow this ruling, and potential investigations into how widespread spying really is.

[qwertyell]

How are our lawyers even worse than our spies?

I don't have faith that anyone associated with the club is competent in any capacity. 

Get them all gone. 

[Noodles34]

You got to ask questions of our legal representation. I don’t know what actual evidence was in show but you do not admit anything unless you know you’re bang to rights and you certainly don’t admit stuff that they didn’t have anything on. As soon as we’d picked two games we did not win, it was pretty obvious we weren’t going to be citing going to Wrexham on a Monday morning. 

[SWLondon Saint]

Just now, saintant said:

Cheating is cheating. They've done far worse than us and benefited a great deal more than a little bit of spying over a fence. Mountain out of a molehill for me.

Absolutely. While I do believe in fair play if I'm playing, I definitely have zero confidence that the footballing pyramid scheme has any kind of integrity.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 minutes ago, Badger said:

Yes but not the point.

And they haven’t been caught with their trousers down in the way we have. 

@trousers is down....Medic!

Quick! It came from behind that tree...on that grassy knoll, just outside the training pitches!

Edited 46 minutes ago by Holmes_and_Watson

[Sir Ralph]

I wonder whether solak will sell. Wrongly we are seen as the lepers of the football world and will struggle with sponsors. New owners and new team essentially wipes the slate clean. Would be the best outcome I suspect for everyone

[Addict54]

3 minutes ago, Noodles34 said:

You got to ask questions of our legal representation. I don’t know what actual evidence was in show but you do not admit anything unless you know you’re bang to rights and you certainly don’t admit stuff that they didn’t have anything on. As soon as we’d picked two games we did not win, it was pretty obvious we weren’t going to be citing going to Wrexham on a Monday morning. 

As someone who’s been in the profession for 25 years I entirely agree. I don’t understand a single thing that the club has done since the news first broke the day before the away leg. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

How are our lawyers even worse than our spies?

I don't have faith that anyone associated with the club is competent in any capacity. 

Get them all gone. 

Parsons admitted to kidnapping Shergar, hiding Lord Lucan and being the other driver in the Diana crash.

There's not much they could do, with all that he confessed to Gibson.

[Willo of Whiteley]

“I wonder if Dragan Solak will sell?”

Who the fuck would buy us?

Give us stability?

Some proper footballing decisions?

[woodsaint1]

6 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

To be entirely honest, I didn't fancy our chances against Hull as McBurnie just had the beating of our centre backs. I would argue they're slight favourites over Boro no matter what the betting odds are.

McBurnie 😂. Yes he scored against us when we were shit, but hes average tbf. We would've beaten Hull, lets be honest. Thats what's even more annoying, it was all aligning for us to return to the PL and then its gone in an instant

[Osvaldorama]

Don’t even need to be a lawyer to understand that you don’t fucking admit your rule break to the opposition. 
 

He should resign. 
Spors should resign. 
Tonda should resign. 
 

There is simply no coming back from this. For any of them. Absolutely ludicrous way to run a football club. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

Also, I managed not to watch a single minute of the last world cup in Sportswashing Desert Land so I feel it would be inconsistent of me not to do the same for Wannabe Fascist Land.

Wife will be happy over the summer anyway!

Aside:

I saw a Beeb article that says FIFA but up loads of room bookings. That drives up prices. Then they gradually cancel 70% of them, all with the backing of hotels. The hotels keep those inflated prices.

A lot of the hotels are moaning as fans aren't taking part in their scam.

[Sir Ralph]

1 minute ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

“I wonder if Dragan Solak will sell?”

Who the fuck would buy us?

Give us stability?

Some proper footballing decisions?

The club value will be low. If someone was looking to buy a club then the baggage wouldn’t follow them. Investors would take a view depending on the price. 

[Cuddles]

One more question for the pub quizzes around the world I guess.

We're at the point where most people will just put down "Southampton" whenever they don't know now.

[trousers]

So, was this talk about us having evidence of other clubs doing the same thing a load of BS, or was it deemed inadmissible in this case and will instead come to light further down the line? Parsons' statement earlier today was clearly inferring it was wider spread than just ourselves.... I guess we'll find out when the report is published...?

Edited 34 minutes ago by trousers

[SW11_Saint]

1 hour ago, TwoPints said:

I imagine there is.  No doubt the good folks at P&O will be looking very closely at this and pondering their options. 

Good point.

[badgerx16]

Just now, trousers said:

So, was this talk about us having evidence of other clubs doing the same thing a load of BS, or was it deemed inadmissible in this case and will instead come to light further down the line. Parsons statement earlier today was clearing inferring it was wider spread than just ourselves....

Of course they all do it. Our problem was getting caught, in a particularly amateur manner, then openly confessing.

[Cuddles]

We will still have a decent squad next season IMO.

We will lose some real quality in Jander, Scienza, THB. But we've already proven we have decent squad depth. Players like Manning and Bragg have been outstanding these past few weeks. 

Tie Ross Stewart down and do another deal for Larin (who else wanted him before?) and Peretz. 

We'll be OK. It's just such a shame that run over the past few months has amounted to nothing.

[Gloucester Saint]

38 minutes ago, Badger said:

Think I’m done with football for a time. Certainly not going to watch a load of prima donnas at unsociable hours over the summer.

Fuck it. 

Horrible sport football these days.

I know the Ashes was shit and Brendon is a cock, but the NZ home series should be decent. 

[SW11_Saint]

2 minutes ago, Cuddles said:

We will still have a decent squad next season IMO.

We will lose some real quality in Jander, Scienza, THB. But we've already proven we have decent squad depth. Players like Manning and Bragg have been outstanding these past few weeks. 

Tie Ross Stewart down and do another deal for Larin (who else wanted him before?) and Peretz. 

We'll be OK. It's just such a shame that run over the past few months has amounted to nothing.

Peretz?! Are you having a laugh? 

[Saint_lambden]

1 minute ago, Cuddles said:

We will still have a decent squad next season IMO.

We will lose some real quality in Jander, Scienza, THB. But we've already proven we have decent squad depth. Players like Manning and Bragg have been outstanding these past few weeks. 

Tie Ross Stewart down and do another deal for Larin (who else wanted him before?) and Peretz. 

We'll be OK. It's just such a shame that run over the past few months has amounted to nothing.

Absolutely zero chance. 

[Saint86]

41 minutes ago, adrian lord said:

Never apologise, never explain. We should keep Tonda, circle the wagons, increase the players' wages and get promoted automatically next season. 

The sad fact is that he is a very good manager. So silly what has happened. I just cannot see a way for him to stay on sadly.

[Badger]

15 minutes ago, saintant said:

Cheating is cheating. They've done far worse than us and benefited a great deal more than a little bit of spying over a fence. Mountain out of a molehill for me.

Unfortunately we were ripe for making an example of knowing it would be easier against our feeble management than others. Especially if as we’re told Dyson Bloke publicly went into a full confessional at Middlesbrough. 

 

[trousers]