Phil Parsons

[sockeye]

Needs to go tonight. Utterly pathetic performance from him

[AlexLaw76]

Off you fuck, Phil. 

This happened on your Watch

[Pilchards]

Useless fuck.

Telling the enemy that we are guilty is so laughable.

 

[Harry_SFC]

Parsons, Spors, Eckert and any analysts involved all need to be sacked tomorrow morning. 

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

Useless fuck.

Telling the enemy that we are guilty is so laughable.

 

Yep, although being guilty isn't ideal. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 minute ago, Pilchards said:

Useless fuck.

Telling the enemy that we are guilty is so laughable.

 

It’s alleged, there have been so many reports I’d say calm the fuck down first of all. 

If he has been part of the spying then 100% he needs to be gone.

I’ll reserve judgement on him for now, given that the coaching staff and management staff and then no doubt the playing staff will be next.

[Saint_lambden]

Dyson dickhead. 

[SouSaint]

3 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Parsons, Spors, Eckert and any analysts involved all need to be sacked tomorrow morning. 

Followed by Sport Republic putting the club up for sale in the afternoon. 

[Dark Munster]

5 hours ago, Harry_SFC said:

Parsons, Spors, Eckert and any analysts involved all need to be sacked tomorrow morning. 

And Rasmus (guilty or not).

[St. Ciervo]

Why is he still here? He should wake up to a text that says, "F- off."

[Osvaldorama]

Useless, useless prick. 
 

[Katalinic]

Whatever the opposite of a blinder is, he has played it.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 hours ago, Katalinic said:

Whatever the opposite of a blinder is, he has played it.

An eye opener?

[Miltonaggro]

If the farce in the Middlesbrough hospitality with Gibson has been reported accurately, allied to the cavalier approach to the Panel, the man is inept and should be fired by Solak today.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

If the farce in the Middlesbrough hospitality with Gibson has been reported accurately, allied to the cavalier approach to the Panel, the man is inept and should be fired by Solak today.

Was it reported he said he wanted to protect the kid and pay the fine.......ie, yeah, sorry about that, but anyway.

[SaintsLoyal]

Hes a dead man walking ,  has to resign.

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Hes a dead man walking ,  has to resign.

Let him hoover up the mess first.

[benjii]

3 hours ago, Katalinic said:

Whatever the opposite of a blinder is, he has played it.

A fully sighter?

[trousers]

Yep, based on what we know (which, admittedly, is based on 2nd hand reports) he should be the first to go. Not least for allowing the situation with our compliance department to evolve in the way it's been reported... There's your root cause folks...

[Miltonaggro]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Was it reported he said he wanted to protect the kid and pay the fine.......ie, yeah, sorry about that, but anyway.

If that is what he said he was incredibly naive in attempting to appeal to Gibson and cronies ‘better nature’ - pathetic from a CEO.

[SaintsLoyal]

How does Parsons turn up at EFL meetings and events going forward !  they will all be stood there talking about him and his incompetence. It needs a new man, to change the view around the club from the top and so i fully expect either a resignation or within six months we find a replacement.

Parsons could of course still go around blaming the poor lad as hes done in recent weeks to staff and the local media.

 

and yes Parsons is involved in the football working alongside Spors ! 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by SaintsLoyal

[Pamplemousse]

What did Parsons say in his statement - contrition without change is hollow... hopefully he's a man of his word.

[Ted Bates Statue]

I feel the need to emphasise exactly where things went wrong for me, outlined in these paragraphs in an article by the Telegraph: 

 

Quote

Eyewitnesses told Telegraph Sport that it was Parsons who instigated a conversation, grabbing Gibson gently by the arm and asking if they could go somewhere quieter for a chat. It was then, in front of senior figures at the EFL, that Parsons admitted what had happened, apologised and said the club would launch a full investigation to find out who was responsible. It was hinted that Salt may have acted alone, but they would protect the young man and would do everything they could to determine whether anyone had instructed him to travel to Teesside to record the training session.

Parsons is then understood to have told Gibson that they would accept the punishment and pay the fine. The suggestion provoked the previously calm Gibson. His whole demeanour changed and the conversation became more barbed. Gibson made it clear that would not be acceptable to him and Middlesbrough would be seeking the toughest possible sporting sanction, which would mean Southampton’s expulsion from the play-offs. The atmosphere inside the boardroom darkened and worsened after Middlesbrough were held to a goalless draw in front of an angry and hostile Riverside crowd.

Archive link for full story: https://archive.ph/1cCTp

Parsons had no idea who he was dealing with and was totally outmanoeuvred by someone with over three decades of football experience. Professional football is not a cosy old boys' club, everyone's jostling for position and now everyone is going to rock up to the doors of St Mary's to pick the bones clean off our carcass.

Let's be real here. There has been a major overreaction to our infractions and there's also the suggestion that we can't win without spying, which should be ludicrous to anyone who knows about the impact of changing formation away from 3ATB and a good January transfer window.

Corinthian Spirit in professional football died a long time ago and nobody's hands are going to be clean at this level. Modern football is amoral and the nature of our punishment and other clubs' reactions mean I don't care much that we broke the rules off the pitch. Besides, I'm numb to the constant rife unfairness on and off the pitch. We have lacked a ruthless streak since Ralph Krueger proclaimed we were a small club, and our stance here was another instance of that.

We needed someone at the top to deny and close ranks. Send Will Salt abroad for a couple of years to scout teams around Europe for Goztepe, smack Tonda in the mouth for being "unaware" but don't let him admit it in person FFS. That the "espionage" was so brazenly amateurish disappoints me more than anything else, but that can be discussed elsewhere.

If you get in a car crash, it might well be your fault but don't fucking admit responsibility. Now we are sitting in a hurricane of shit and it could go on for months. Maybe it will get better but the fallout could take years to recover from. 

If heads need to roll, it's Parsons who needs to get out the door first. We needed an attack dog who would defend the club above everything else, but instead we got a puppy.

 

 

 

 

[TheSoundman]

Our owner won't have made his money by being nice, or forgiving.

Parsons is a dead man walking at SFC.

[RedArmy]

Go back to selling hairdryers and vacuums you fucking thick cunt. 

[Badger]

22 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I feel the need to emphasise exactly where things went wrong for me, outlined in these paragraphs in an article by the Telegraph: 

 

Archive link for full story: https://archive.ph/1cCTp

Parsons had no idea who he was dealing with and was totally outmanoeuvred by someone with over three decades of football experience. Professional football is not a cosy old boys' club, everyone's jostling for position and now everyone is going to rock up to the doors of St Mary's to pick the bones clean off our carcass.

Let's be real here. There has been a major overreaction to our infractions and there's also the suggestion that we can't win without spying, which should be ludicrous to anyone who knows about the impact of changing formation away from 3ATB and a good January transfer window.

Corinthian Spirit in professional football died a long time ago and nobody's hands are going to be clean at this level. Modern football is amoral and the nature of our punishment and other clubs' reactions mean I don't care much that we broke the rules off the pitch. Besides, I'm numb to the constant rife unfairness on and off the pitch. We have lacked a ruthless streak since Ralph Krueger proclaimed we were a small club, and our stance here was another instance of that.

We needed someone at the top to deny and close ranks. Send Will Salt abroad for a couple of years to scout teams around Europe for Goztepe, smack Tonda in the mouth for being "unaware" but don't let him admit it in person FFS. That the "espionage" was so brazenly amateurish disappoints me more than anything else, but that can be discussed elsewhere.

If you get in a car crash, it might well be your fault but don't fucking admit responsibility. Now we are sitting in a hurricane of shit and it could go on for months. Maybe it will get better but the fallout could take years to recover from. 

If heads need to roll, it's Parsons who needs to get out the door first. We needed an attack dog who would defend the club above everything else, but instead we got a puppy.

 

 

 

 

This is quite damning.

As I’ve said elsewhere Cortese, and even Rupert - and I wasn’t a great fan of either at their time with us -would have handled this better.

[SaintsLoyal]

5 minutes ago, TheSoundman said:

Our owner won't have made his money by being nice, or forgiving.

Parsons is a dead man walking at SFC.

He should never have been employed in the first place, the club had several months on Martin Semmens saying he would be leaving.  How did we end up with poundshop parsons ? He was signed up to be working for a baby app !

Hes directly responsible for bringing back that tosser Adam lallana and then being told of his behaviour, he told Spors he should be Will Stills assistant !  unreal 

Then we have PR toxic and deranged conspiracy theorist Matt Le tissier being put all over club marketing and now being fully employed for doing what ? zilch  All down to Parsons again.

 

 

[Badger]

10 minutes ago, TheSoundman said:

Our owner won't have made his money by being nice, or forgiving.

Parsons is a dead man walking at SFC.

I keep reading this, and have made a similar point on occasion. But for everything he’s done elsewhere our owner during his time with us has largely been a magnet for buffoons, or put them in places above their ability.

Parsons gets credit for the commercial development at the club. Perhaps that is where he should be, but not heading up the club with the cut and thrust that goes with it. 

Last summer I think it was when Dragan told Blackmore and House that he intended to take more interest and control, that clearly hasn’t happened. Where was our owner when his skills and acumen for a challenge were needed?
 

 

[Saint86]

29 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Send Will Salt abroad for a couple of years to scout teams around Europe for Goztepe, smack Tonda in the mouth for being "unaware" but don't let him admit it in person FFS. That the "espionage" was so brazenly amateurish disappoints me more than anything else, but that can be discussed elsewhere.

If you get in a car crash, it might well be your fault but don't fucking admit responsibility. Now we are sitting in a hurricane of shit and it could go on for months. Maybe it will get better but the fallout could take years to recover from. 

If heads need to roll, it's Parsons who needs to get out the door first. We needed an attack dog who would defend the club above everything else, but instead we got a puppy.

 

 

 

 

Interesting thought, would we potentially try and send any of Salt, Tonda, or Spors to Goztepe... Depending on what ultimately comes out, i am not sure any of them could ever work for saints again... but the SR group may try to keep them on.

[Miltonaggro]

12 minutes ago, Badger said:

This is quite damning.

As I’ve said elsewhere Cortese, and even Rupert - and I wasn’t a great fan of either at their time with us -would have handled this better.

With Cortese we could have relied on the horses head in Gibbo's bed treatment.

[Midfield_General]

35 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I feel the need to emphasise exactly where things went wrong for me, outlined in these paragraphs in an article by the Telegraph: 

 

Archive link for full story: https://archive.ph/1cCTp

Parsons had no idea who he was dealing with and was totally outmanoeuvred by someone with over three decades of football experience. Professional football is not a cosy old boys' club, everyone's jostling for position and now everyone is going to rock up to the doors of St Mary's to pick the bones clean off our carcass.

Let's be real here. There has been a major overreaction to our infractions and there's also the suggestion that we can't win without spying, which should be ludicrous to anyone who knows about the impact of changing formation away from 3ATB and a good January transfer window.

Corinthian Spirit in professional football died a long time ago and nobody's hands are going to be clean at this level. Modern football is amoral and the nature of our punishment and other clubs' reactions mean I don't care much that we broke the rules off the pitch. Besides, I'm numb to the constant rife unfairness on and off the pitch. We have lacked a ruthless streak since Ralph Krueger proclaimed we were a small club, and our stance here was another instance of that.

We needed someone at the top to deny and close ranks. Send Will Salt abroad for a couple of years to scout teams around Europe for Goztepe, smack Tonda in the mouth for being "unaware" but don't let him admit it in person FFS. That the "espionage" was so brazenly amateurish disappoints me more than anything else, but that can be discussed elsewhere.

If you get in a car crash, it might well be your fault but don't fucking admit responsibility. Now we are sitting in a hurricane of shit and it could go on for months. Maybe it will get better but the fallout could take years to recover from. 

If heads need to roll, it's Parsons who needs to get out the door first. We needed an attack dog who would defend the club above everything else, but instead we got a puppy.

 

 

 

 

Staggering naivety and ineptitude. 

Someone whose strategic thinking and judgement is that mind-blowingly poor has absolutely no qualification to be in the position of CEO. 

He has to go, and go now.  

[Midfield_General]

13 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Then we have PR toxic and deranged conspiracy theorist Matt Le tissier being put all over club marketing and now being fully employed for doing what ? zilch  All down to Parsons again.

Careful now, you'll have that tinfoil nutter on here losing his marbles again. 

Actually on second thoughts, crack on, watching that meltdown was amazing entertainment

[Sheaf Saint]

5 minutes ago, Badger said:

Last summer I think it was when Dragan told Blackmore and House that he intended to take more interest and control, that clearly hasn’t happened. Where was our owner when his skills and acumen for a challenge were needed?

Clearly that was just guff that was intended to placate the fans who were unhappy at the way the club was being run at the time.

It's the equivalent of an abusive partner saying "Please give me one more chance babe. I promise I've changed and things will be different this time" before fucking off back to the pub with his mates and boasting about how gullible she is.

No more chances now Dragan. The winning run under Tonda papered over the cracks and took the heat off you for a bit. But it was all just a convenient veneer to disguise how fucking abysmal your ownership of this club has been.

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Was it reported he said he wanted to protect the kid and pay the fine.......ie, yeah, sorry about that, but anyway.

that's what the Athletic said. He took Steve Gibson to one side at the first leg and said that. It seemed like he either didn't know all the details yet or tried to make out it was Salt acting alone and the penalty would be a fine. 

[Gloucester Saint]

13 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Interesting thought, would we potentially try and send any of Salt, Tonda, or Spors to Goztepe... Depending on what ultimately comes out, i am not sure any of them could ever work for saints again... but the SR group may try to keep them on.

As long as SR sell SFC rapidly, they can do what they want. 

[Gloucester Saint]

31 minutes ago, TheSoundman said:

Our owner won't have made his money by being nice, or forgiving.

Parsons is a dead man walking at SFC.

The owner is the biggest problem of the lot.

Do the decent thing for once - clear the debts as an apology and sell up asap.

[Badger]

13 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

With Cortese we could have relied on the horses head in Gibbo's bed treatment.

And with Rupert at least one “I’m not going to be pushed around by a north country yobbo … “

Which, laugh as you might, would have least set the tone that we weren’t going to meekly concede without a fight. 

[benjii]

2 minutes ago, Badger said:

And with Rupert at least one “I’m not going to be pushed around by a north country yobbo … “

Which, laugh as you might, would have least set the tone that we weren’t going to meekly concede without a fight. 

Rupert would have said Salt is an Albanian/Afghan/Somali terrorist.

[Miltonaggro]

I think if Solak was on the mettle he would have flown in and been sat in a room with Salt the day the story broke.  Then 'protected' him by advising on the commercial and personal realities of the football world and getting him to agree to a settlement with an NDA, perhaps the opportunity to broaden his horizons via Goztepe - nice apartment, company car, in the sunshine for a couple of years.  PR along the lines of 'poor enthusiastic lad acted in error, but doesn't deserve to ruin his burgeoning career with likes of us and Euro champs Aston Villa.' Then dealt with the other internals who knew further up the chain, before directing his ire at his steward - the hapless Parsons.  Nothing done by Saints in this sorry episode is 'criminal' it is all 'business', sharp practice maybe, but business.  My feeling is a game of golf and drinks at the villa took precedent and a wave of the hand that the man he pays handsomely to act as a barrier to this kind of crisis could hold the fort.  He failed, catastrophically! 

[Dman]

1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I feel the need to emphasise exactly where things went wrong for me, outlined in these paragraphs in an article by the Telegraph: 

Archive link for full story: https://archive.ph/1cCTp

 

 

well then, Rockliffe hall did share personal information from financial records... 

If there is a case to answer here, I hope the club support Salt in legal advise on this one. 

[SWLondon Saint]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

I think if Solak was on the mettle he would have flown in and been sat in a room with Salt the day the story broke.  Then 'protected' him by advising on the commercial and personal realities of the football world and getting him to agree to a settlement with an NDA, perhaps the opportunity to broaden his horizons via Goztepe - nice apartment, company car, in the sunshine for a couple of years.  PR along the lines of 'poor enthusiastic lad acted in error, but doesn't deserve to ruin his burgeoning career with likes of us and Euro champs Aston Villa.' Then dealt with the other internals who knew further up the chain, before directing his ire at his steward - the hapless Parsons.  Nothing done by Saints in this sorry episode is 'criminal' it is all 'business', sharp practice maybe, but business.  My feeling is a game of golf and drinks at the villa took precedent and a wave of the hand that the man he pays handsomely to act as a barrier to this kind of crisis could hold the fort.  He failed, catastrophically! 

I think this is more or less what everyone with a brain expected to happen. Pay off the kid and his direct manager to take the blame for getting their days mixed up, they get banned, and deny everything else. Instead Parsons managed to expand the damage to what sounds like most of the footballing staff, the players, fans, and club in general. Impressive....

[Osvaldorama]

Has he gone yet?

[Miltonaggro]

16 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

I think this is more or less what everyone with a brain expected to happen. Pay off the kid and his direct manager to take the blame for getting their days mixed up, they get banned, and deny everything else. Instead Parsons managed to expand the damage to what sounds like most of the footballing staff, the players, fans, and club in general. Impressive....

If you look at previous interactions and grievences between football clubs (including what looks like a breach of the CMA in the hacking case between Liverpool and Man City) there is a reason why things have been typically settled internally, mutually, or out of court - because all top tier clubs do such things, and will go to ground and implement omerta if accused of it.  Taking the ex-players with him to sign fan autographs as an entourage and attempting to chum up to Gibson and his cronies was frankly ridiculous for the CEO of a club the size and history of Southampton. 

[Sparkkyy]

Recruited in error. 

"Find someone to fill the management vacuum, not find the vacuum sales manager"