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6 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The only thing that makes sense is if he thinks “one more and I’m done”. Maybe he doesn’t want to go through all that rehabilitation again, so has decided if he gets another long term injury during the WC he’ll retire. Mentally it must be taking a toll on him and he’ll be over 30 by the time the season starts. It must get harder to get back fit, the older you are. If he gets through it, he’ll have plenty of options afterwards and I doubt he’ll actually play that many minutes. 

Thats a good point. The Championship is a long hard slog for players, especially if you happen to have a bit of a cup run in either competition thrown in for good measure.

Maybe he realises his body just isn't up to it. In which case he's virtually nailed on to go back to Scotland to finish his career.

Anyone who hpoes he gets injured needs to take a look at themselves ffs.

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1 hour ago, Badger said:

Similar to last season perhaps except hopefully a more integrated and motivated Edozie. Plus the Spanish geezer on the other side. 
 

With Robinson and Matsuki as well it seems an embarrassment of riches for the Championship. So perhaps there will be an exit for someone. 

Yep, agreed. On paper that is a decent to strong group. 

Definitely need Edozie and Robinson to be on it to help supplement the team.

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Sorry to see Stewart leave, best of luck to him. Can see both sides, at his age he needs to get the best deal he can. Saints understandably hedged their bets, I assume had we been promoted we wouldn't have made an offer, hence the lateness of the offer. Hopefully he ends up in the Scottish Prem rather than another Championship club.

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1 hour ago, SNOWY said:

Sorry to see Stewart leave, best of luck to him. Can see both sides, at his age he needs to get the best deal he can. Saints understandably hedged their bets, I assume had we been promoted we wouldn't have made an offer, hence the lateness of the offer. Hopefully he ends up in the Scottish Prem rather than another Championship club.

Hearts as a replacement for Shankland perhaps?

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36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Because they have a significantly smaller income and wage budget compared to ours. It is tiny in comparison. 

Who knows, they may have offered him £15k a week on a 4 year deal, where as we may have offered £20k a week on a 2 year deal. If it was an extension for another year, it would have been what, £20k a week for another 12 months?

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It's a shame he's not staying but after a decent season here his team probably wants a 2-3 year contract given his injury woes. Does seem a bit ungrateful but can also see the club's perspective not wanting to extend him.

I would guess he's hoping for Celtic? Free transfer would suit them and they have European football to offer.

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1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Are Hearts really going to give him more money than we would?

Has anyone thought it might not be about the money? 💰 

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Who knows, they may have offered him £15k a week on a 4 year deal, where as we may have offered £20k a week on a 2 year deal. If it was an extension for another year, it would have been what, £20k a week for another 12 months?

I don’t think anyone is going to offer a very injury prone 30 year old a 4 year deal. I wish him all the best and hope he stays injury free and scores for Scotland. He will still be shown as a Southampton player until 1 July. However it’s a relief now not having to worry about him getting crocked during the World Cup, and not being able to start next season for Saints due to injury.

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Hearts have three chances at being in a European League next season, if they fail to win the Champions League Qualifier, they go to a Europa League Qualifier, If they fail to win the Europa League Qualifier they get a UEFA Conference League Qualifier.

Even if Stewart is on a Lower monthly wage, I bet he'll get decent performance bonuses at Hearts

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24 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Hearts have three chances at being in a European League next season, if they fail to win the Champions League Qualifier, they go to a Europa League Qualifier, If they fail to win the Europa League Qualifier they get a UEFA Conference League Qualifier.

Even if Stewart is on a Lower monthly wage, I bet he'll get decent performance bonuses at Hearts

Their income and wage budget would still be tiny compared to ours. Our matchday income, commercial deals and most significantly huge parachute payments blow them out of the water.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Ethan Galbraith - versatile, holding midfielder 

Are you basing that on a claim by someone who pretends to be an agent and thinks Swansea is the capital of Wales?

 

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1 hour ago, Dr Who? said:

Has anyone thought it might not be about the money? 💰 

Yes, see my posts before. If he goes to Hearts or Celtic he gets Champions League football, and is closer to home and family. We also should consider that we have actually, probably, not offered him anything. We tried to invoke an option but it was past its sell by date and so was rejected on a technicality. There is no evidence that we have offered him anything else and it could be that he (or his representatives) indicated he wanted to see what else was out there. He's now at the WC at least for a few days until Scotland return home (probably very soon), he is unlikely to play many minutes, because there are other preferred options ahead of him and after that he will see what to do. It still wouldn't greatly surprise me to see him back with us, but of course Saints will be planning for him not being here and looking for alternatives. Everyone seems to think that signing Larin is the answer to life the universe and everything, sadly its not Cyle (who I really like) is injury prone (not in the same was as Ross, more short term niggles) and his fitness is highly questionable. Having Cyle and Ross together was a perfect situation. Some of the comments on here about Stewart are disgraceful, he gave us a lot in the last 6 months, people seem to forget his goals in the FA Cup that enabled us to get to Wembley once at least, as well as his contributions in the League. As you say, in the end not everything is about money, when you are paid what even Championship players are paid, the difference between top whack and average is not life changing, better to be happy, fulfil some ambitions and enjoy your short time in the game.

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Their income and wage budget would still be tiny compared to ours. Our matchday income, commercial deals and most significantly huge parachute payments blow them out of the water.

But out extension for what? Another year

Hearts (or another club) may offer him 2-3 years 

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Are you basing that on a claim by someone who pretends to be an agent and thinks Swansea is the capital of Wales?

 

Even taking it as face value, I'm not sure we need another small, lightweight midfielder - especially with the assumption that Charles will be leaving. 

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3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Their income and wage budget would still be tiny compared to ours. Our matchday income, commercial deals and most significantly huge parachute payments blow them out of the water.

With no fee to pay to a club, a nice sign on fee would make the total monetary value to Stewart the same or more.

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5 minutes ago, Nolan said:

With no fee to pay to a club, a nice sign on fee would make the total monetary value to Stewart the same or more.

Saints also would have no transfer fee to pay, so can inflate the deal from a base of having significantly more money than Hearts.

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4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints also would have no transfer fee to pay, so can inflate the deal from a base of having significantly more money than Hearts.

We wanted to trigger a 12 month extension, not some fancy new deal.

 

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5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

This fucking world cup

Im now watching misfits boxing which is basically midgets fighting kangaroos rather that continue watching switzlerand v qatar.

#MidgetsFightingKangaroos_Watch

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Posted
5 hours ago, Nolan said:

Hearts have three chances at being in a European League next season, if they fail to win the Champions League Qualifier, they go to a Europa League Qualifier, If they fail to win the Europa League Qualifier they get a UEFA Conference League Qualifier.

Even if Stewart is on a Lower monthly wage, I bet he'll get decent performance bonuses at Hearts

Let's hope for their sake that they're not Scotland's equivalent of three-bites-at-the-cherry-Middlesbrough 

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36 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not bothered about Stewart - more concerned about SR’s ability to get a decent replacement in.

Already done. It is like 4D chess in many ways

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16 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Are you basing that on a claim by someone who pretends to be an agent and thinks Swansea is the capital of Wales?

 

There are a few pointers here to suggest this might be true

he capitalises VERY which suggests he has a strong belief in his news

he knows the reason why Gailbraith wants the move, tired of life in Swansea, suggests his source is the player or someone very close

The fact that he says others will claim they had if first, seems confident he’s breaking this one, I’m not really sure why anyone would be boasting about a transfer between two championship club for a relatively unknown player 

seems like this one is hotting up 🔥🔥🔥🔥

 

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13 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

This fucking world cup

Im now watching misfits boxing which is basically midgets fighting kangaroos rather that continue watching switzlerand v qatar.

Is that the shite that was on Danz? The self titled hardest man in the UK quitting the fight and that fat prick rapper fighting the Ibiza final boss?

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Is that the shite that was on Danz? The self titled hardest man in the UK quitting the fight and that fat prick rapper fighting the Ibiza final boss?

Yeah am trying to forget it lol

Posted
6 hours ago, Colinjb said:

Why do I see a move for Galbraith as an insurance policy against Jander leaving?

I thought more of a Charles replacement on reading it.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Karl Poborsky syndrome 

 

36 minutes ago, Kenilworthy1959 said:

Or closer to home - Orsic syndrome

And Sulemana (although not sure he scored any goals, just a rapid  sprint). 

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Looks like George Kift (14 year old turning out for the u18s) has been poached from the academy. 

Don't know why we bother with academies anymore. Any kid showing the slightest promise gets hoovered up by City or Chelsea. 

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21 hours ago, qwertyell said:

Bunu olduğu gibi kabul etsek bile, özellikle Charles'ın ayrılacağı varsayımıyla, başka bir ufak tefek, hafif orta saha oyuncusuna ihtiyacımız olduğundan emin değilim. 

Signing a short central midfielder is a big risk, as it's against modern football principles. If playing with a two-man midfield, the average height of both midfielders should be 1.85 meters, with the short midfielder being at least 1.81 meters, or higher if the others start at 1.89 meters.

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28 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Looks like George Kift (14 year old turning out for the u18s) has been poached from the academy. 

Don't know why we bother with academies anymore. Any kid showing the slightest promise gets hoovered up by City or Chelsea. 

Understand the comment, and it’s jam today for the kid and his family, with a signing on fee and good earnings, but………I cannot think of any youth we’ve lost in the last five years who has forged a career elsewhere. There have been several big name departures, but has any of them proved successful?

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28 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Looks like George Kift (14 year old turning out for the u18s) has been poached from the academy. 

Don't know why we bother with academies anymore. Any kid showing the slightest promise gets hoovered up by City or Chelsea. 

Not just him, or one promising 14 year old either, Charlton have had 4 alone and Everton had one as well https://www.instagram.com/thetalenthunter/p/DZimV_kOAfM/

Greedy parents are the problem. Top 6 and specifically a couple of those clubs trying to get around the compensation system (they won’t be able to thankfully).

Each situation will have nuances but parents are so greedy now they’ll want Chelsea or City to put a nice wedge of cash their way, not for their kids. Sod what’s best for their lad’s development. 

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32 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Looks like George Kift (14 year old turning out for the u18s) has been poached from the academy. 

Don't know why we bother with academies anymore. Any kid showing the slightest promise gets hoovered up by City or Chelsea. 

That's a shame. I heard he was a really kifted player.

There's only so many that City and Chelsea will ever bring through. So, we could focus attention on those who are about to be released/escape from their children farms.

Ideally on frees, rather than on Baz money.

On the other side of that, I take it we're happy to nab players from other academies where we can?

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4 minutes ago, Pwoite said:

Understand the comment, and it’s jam today for the kid and his family, with a signing on fee and good earnings, but………I cannot think of any youth we’ve lost in the last five years who has forged a career elsewhere. There have been several big name departures, but has any of them proved successful?

Only Rodriguez who went to Lyon really. Rest are lower leagues at best (Doyle, Morgan) and most out of the game altogether.

I can see the temptation if they’re a parent that’s not had any sort of decent career themselves of hitting the jackpot but the tiny odds of making it professionally diminish to 0.00001% at the likes of City and Chelsea so you’re selling your son in essence. At very, very, very best you might end up in Champ or L1 at Pompey (John Swift) or Reading and even that’s a very long shot, sub-5%.

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7 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

That's a shame. I heard he was a really kifted player.

There's only so many that City and Chelsea will ever bring through. So, we could focus attention on those who are about to be released/escape from their children farms.

Ideally on frees, rather than on Baz money.

On the other side of that, I take it we're happy to nab players from other academies where we can?

Good point, not much better that we did it with Blackstock, McGoldrick etc although at least left it to 16 or 17.

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We do the same to other clubs.

Its a merry go round snapping up

talented young players. 


Hoping this spygate bollocks won’t set the club back as outsiders think we are poison now.

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