Summer Transfer Window 2026

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Like who?

The answer cannot be players that you think are rubbish.

 

We have multiple other players who should/could be sold who aren’t in the first XI or even the squad. None would get as much as Charles, but they would collectively raise more than a Charles sale if all gone. 

 

Brereton Díaz 

Bazunu 

Ramsdale

Sugawara

Downs 

Plus others potentially 

Edited 6 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[lambtiss]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

We have multiple other players who should/could be sold. None would get as much as Charles, but they would collectively if all gone. 

Brereton Díaz 

Bazunu 

Ramsdale

Sugawara

Downs 

Ramsdale is the one we need to sell, the others will go for very little.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, lambtiss said:

Ramsdale is the one we need to sell, the others will go for very little.

All 5 of those together would raise more than we'd get for Charles

[CB Fry]

4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

See above

We will have factored in Ramsdale being sold or loaned again, 100% his departure does not magically remove the requirement to sell Charles.

Damion Downs is not going to generate cash, we will likely loan or sell at a loss. Ditto Bazunu, we are flogging cheap or loaning to get him out. 

BBD ditto. Sugawara ditto.

You're just listing players that aren't in our plans and we will move on. 

Selling Charles (or THB, or someone) for significant money is a different column all together.

"Don't worry lads, we don't need to sell Charles because we've loaned out Damion Downs" is not what will be happening here.

Edited 6 hours ago by CB Fry

[hypochondriac]

15 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

I’d prefer to sell others.

Such as?

[bugenhagen]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

All 5 of those together would raise more than we'd get for Charles

The problem is that all of those (including Ramsdale) might not be sold (probably not in my opinion), but end up being loaned out instead.

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

We have multiple other players who should/could be sold who aren’t in the first XI or even the squad. None would get as much as Charles, but they would collectively raise more than a Chatles sale if all gone. 

Brereton Díaz 

Bazunu 

Ramsdale

Sugawara

Downs 

Yep and when those are gone and we still need to raise some cash? Who are selling then ?

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, CB Fry said:

We will have factored in Ramsdale being sold, 100% his sale does not magically remove the requirement to sell Charles.

Damion Downs is not going to generate cash, we will likely loan or sell at a loss. Ditto Bazunu, we are flogging cheap or loaning to get him out. 

BBD ditto. Sugawara ditto.

You're just listing players that aren't in our plans and we will move on. 

Selling Charles (or THB, or someone) for significant money is a different column all together.

"Don't worry lads, we don't need to sell Charles because we've loaned out Damion Downs" is not what will be happening here.

I've not said we'd make a profit on them. Will probably be losses on all of them. But just because they have failed with us, doesn't make them worthless. They still have decent value on them. It seems mant Saints fans think, a player doesn't work out and their value drops to clise to £0. That is nonsense. Sure it will be less than we paid, but there will still be clubs who see good value in them.

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Yep and when those are gone and we still need to raise some cash? Who are selling then ?

Edozie, Archer etc

Plus what makes you think we are desperate to raise money?

Edited 6 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[CB Fry]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

I've not said we'd make a profit on them. Will probably be losses on all of them. But just because they have failed with us, doesn't make them worthless. They still have decent value on them. It seems mant Saints fans think, a player doesn't work out and their value drops to clise to £0. That is nonsense. Sure it will be less than we paid, but there will still be clubs who see good value in them.

This is not your little computer game.

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, CB Fry said:

This is not your little computer game.

What in that post is unreasonable? Look at the money we got for other flops in real life. Stop with the pathetic belittling 

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Edozie, Archer etc

Plus what makes you think we are desperate to raise money?

 

 

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Edozie, Archer etc

Plus what makes you think we are desperate to raise money?

You don't think we have to raise money? You're going to be in for a rude awakening when the likes of THB and Charles are sold.

Edited 6 hours ago by hypochondriac

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

7 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Edozie, Archer etc

Plus what makes you think we are desperate to raise money?

I don't understand how the fair play rules work, but are we in such a dire situation that we have to sell players? Yes, we have two top goalkeepers and Ramsdale will probably be the one who is sold (Leeds?) or loaned out, but do we really need to sell THB? Having him in the team next season would be a massive boost.

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

You don't think we have to raise money? You're going to be in for a rude awakening when the likes of THB and Charles are sold.

Them being sold doesn't mean the club needs the money. Players leave because they want to leave and the club are offered an acceptable fee.

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Them being sold doesn't mean the club needs the money. Players leave because they want to leave and the club are offered an acceptable fee.

You're insane.

[Gloucester Saint]

I can see CB’s tiger catching MLG’s Honey Badger here. 

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

You're insane.

What in that post is wrong and why?

[Suhari]

5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I can see CB’s tiger catching MLG’s Honey Badger here. 

Not been following.

Is this a euphemism?

[Fabrice29]

40 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

We have multiple other players who should/could be sold who aren’t in the first XI or even the squad. None would get as much as Charles, but they would collectively raise more than a Charles sale if all gone. 

 

Brereton Díaz 

Bazunu 

Ramsdale

Sugawara

Downs 

Plus others potentially 

What values are you putting on these 5, considering 3, possibly 4 and even 5 would have been available for transfer last summer or January and we recoup zero in transfer fees?

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Not been following.

Is this a euphemism?

@SuperSAINT compared MLG to a Honey Badger when he got arguing.

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

 

 

You don't think we have to raise money? You're going to be in for a rude awakening when the likes of THB and Charles are sold.

I think you are being overly negative here hypo. We are suffering a 15M loss of income from parachute payments this year. The mere fact that we spent prior to June 30th means that we haven't breached psr last year - so we had money to spend. Given we made a £57M loss the season before that, that implies a degree of confidence going forward -albeit, we need to see the finances to confirm this.

Now we are under SCR it's a new game. But our wages have shrunk significantly, and on paper we have built a very competitive squad for this level where the vast majority of players have an obvious role to play.

The likes of ramsdale, bazunu, bbd, edozie, sugawara etc are largely surplus to requirements (although a couple of those could be utilised)... Shifting them raises funds against the £15M, and notably saves significant wages (on top of the likes of macca, aribo, smallbone etc. leaving - which alone must be £5M a year saved in wages).

Add to that the £6M on Fernandes.

None of us really know our wage to turnover ratio currently (last year's accounts will be very revealing).

But:

We have spent circa £9M on Dobbin, and £6-8M on Larin and Peretz. All for a fairly minor increases in wages (I assume just dobbin basically).

We will sell at least one big player (I e., Charles for £25M).

We need to cover the the £15M parachute payment loss.

We raised £6M via Fernandes.

The above listed players will raise not insignificant funds and clear a couple million of the annual wages.

Dragon can, if he chooses, pump in £10M.

In summary - I don't think we are that badly off. I think we will see 1 big sale without further squad additions, or 2+ but with major squad additions. Eitherway, I am fairly relaxed currently.

[Saint NL]

The market is fucked 🤣

[Pwoite]

I’m getting pretty fed up reading all the unnecessary abuse being pushed in MLG’s direction. I don’t know him, but some people seem to react negatively to everything he posts. Then they get rude and offensive. We all have opinions, and we can all disagree, but there’s no need for personal attacks time and time again.  Let’s have some objectivity in responses. 

[HarvSFC]

I think Edwards and Armstrong's January sales paid for Larin and Peretz, while the Fernandes fee helped go toward Dobbin, so we should be near even for now. But, most clubs need one big sale each summer, I think sometimes we're guilty of too many big sales in one window. Similar to how Sunderland sold Bellingham, which helped keep them in the Premier League, even if it didn't seem so at the time. Charles is the most expendable for me and eventually we will come to an agreement with Leeds or whoever. The same as Fernandes and Dibling last summer, we didn't get the figures for either that were first quoted (not the ridiculous £100m report), but we did still end up with good fees for both.

[Lighthouse]

13 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

I think Edwards and Armstrong's January sales paid for Larin and Peretz, while the Fernandes fee helped go toward Dobbin, so we should be near even for now. But, most clubs need one big sale each summer, I think sometimes we're guilty of too many big sales in one window. Similar to how Sunderland sold Bellingham, which helped keep them in the Premier League, even if it didn't seem so at the time. Charles is the most expendable for me and eventually we will come to an agreement with Leeds or whoever. The same as Fernandes and Dibling last summer, we didn't get the figures for either that were first quoted (not the ridiculous £100m report), but we did still end up with good fees for both.

Our January sales were necessary as we hadn’t managed to sell as many as we needed in summer. Their wages were high and we needed some cash coming in. The signings we’ve made this summer will be on the assumption that there are some fairly meaty sales coming, we haven’t broken even yet.

[Roy Munson]

27 minutes ago, Pwoite said:

I’m getting pretty fed up reading all the unnecessary abuse being pushed in MLG’s direction. I don’t know him, but some people seem to react negatively to everything he posts. Then they get rude and offensive. We all have opinions, and we can all disagree, but there’s no need for personal attacks time and time again.  Let’s have some objectivity in responses. 

Surely he’s AI? Not sure their architecture is built to be offended, pedantic? Most definitely.

[Mick_Channon]

40 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

The market is fucked 🤣

Apparently Boro get 20% of that.

[SuperSAINT]

2 minutes ago, Mick_Channon said:

Apparently Boro get 20% of that.

 

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

And we paid how much for Edozie, Larios etc ??? 

[Baird of the land]

3 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Like who?

The answer cannot be players that you think are rubbish.

 

If we have to sell one of the cm mids for big money I’d prefer it be jander or downes.

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

If we have to sell one of the cm mids for big money I’d prefer it be jander or downes.

Not Jander for me. And despite how highly we rate him and the job he does for us, I don’t see Downes in the “big money” category. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, HarvSFC said:

I think Edwards and Armstrong's January sales paid for Larin and Peretz, while the Fernandes fee helped go toward Dobbin, so we should be near even for now. But, most clubs need one big sale each summer, I think sometimes we're guilty of too many big sales in one window. Similar to how Sunderland sold Bellingham, which helped keep them in the Premier League, even if it didn't seem so at the time. Charles is the most expendable for me and eventually we will come to an agreement with Leeds or whoever. The same as Fernandes and Dibling last summer, we didn't get the figures for either that were first quoted (not the ridiculous £100m report), but we did still end up with good fees for both.

it's an ever changing situation, but on average I think I calculated (using the financial accounts) that we were losing about £30m a year in the PL before player sales, and I think it was about £20m in the championship. Promotion, relegation, parachute payments, increasing/reducing wage bills...there are lots of variables, but basically every couple of years you need to bing in sizeable chuck of cash to balance things out.

[Chez]

55 minutes ago, Badger said:

And we paid how much for Edozie, Larios etc ??? 

roughly about £6m and £5m, too much, but more to the point we signed Charles for £10m (with some add ons) that same summer of 2023 that Rogers left City. Different position, so not really a case of one or the other....

Edited 3 hours ago by Chez

[gio1saints]

IF Rogers is worth £117M then that’s v helpful in our stance vis Leo, Charles, etc.

A new benchmark has been hit, and what with the MF fee that also strengthens perceived provenance value of being ex SFC.
 

Say we were to sell Sam Edozie( who reminded me tonite he can run with the ball )the figure achieved for Rogers potentially just upped Sams value a little I’m sure, certainly Leo’s. 

Edited 2 hours ago by gio1saints

[SuperSAINT]

 

[CSA96]

5 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

 

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Baird of the land said:

If we have to sell one of the cm mids for big money I’d prefer it be jander or downes.

Fair enough.

Doubt we would get big money for Downes, he is proven to be not good enough for the Prem.

Jander could go as well if he pushes for it, but we are in a much stronger position than we are with Charles where it is very much cash-in time.