Challenger Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago Bottom line is that England found yet another way to not win a major tournament. Let's see what the next " it's coming home" anti method they can find.
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Challenger said: Bottom line is that England found yet another way to not win a major tournament. Let's see what the next " it's coming home" anti method they can find. Think they'll make a good effort at being the first ever host nation not to qualify for a major tournament at Euro 28...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 hours ago Author Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: Think they'll make a good effort at being the first ever host nation not to qualify for a major tournament at Euro 28... we'll qualify easily, as the group will be piss. Kane will look brilliant, Rice will purr.....against largely poor sides When it comes to playing France, Spain or a rejuvenated Germany when it matters, we will again revert to type and Kane's age will scare us as his continued inclusion will damage the team 3
LiberalCommunist Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago England must be doing something right. How else do we explain how annoyed everyone is, that we didn't win the World Cup. Surely that's a step in the right direction?
John B Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 24 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: It may not have been the plan, but he amplified that direction of travel by a huge margin Probably he realised that the English only do it one way But do you think we are better under Tonda holding on to a lead
AlexLaw76 Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, John B said: Probably he realised that the English only do it one way But do you think we are better under Tonda holding on to a lead Not really. 1
John B Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Challenger said: Bottom line is that England found yet another way to not win a major tournament. Let's see what the next " it's coming home" anti method they can find. Clearly they are not good enough to beat the top countries I would have thought 1
ecuk268 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago It's a daunting thought that, by the time that the next World Cup comes around, nobody under 70ish will have actually seen our one win.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 33 minutes ago, John B said: However, Tuchel has said that it was never the plan to drop deeper and that "it's maybe not in our DNA…to control the game and ball". I think we know something about dropping deeper with SFC over the years do we not Well as the highly experienced country team manager, perhaps he should have realised that trying to keep the World champions at bay for 20-30 minutes was a folly and acted to help his players. Instead he did quite the opposite and re-enforced their ‘DNA’ to sit back and invite wave after wave of attack from probably the best attacking team in the World. And let’s not forget that way before then we’d gone ahead with a great goal - bizarrely the team lost control of the game from that point onwards. 3
badgerx16 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) We entered the World Cup 4th in the FIFA rankings, and we will finish in 4th place in the tournament.. Edited 15 hours ago by badgerx16 1
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 12 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: We entered the World Cup 4th in the FIFA rankings, and we will finish in 4th place in the tournament.. So, even if we lose to France we've had a better tournament than them, as they've finished worse than expected. Haha, suck on that frenchies. 3
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Tat for the winners. Bet the England players are devastated, but at least they're also on sale if you're a weirdo with lots of money. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgmk7mnnyjeo 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 45 minutes ago, ecuk268 said: It's a daunting thought that, by the time that the next World Cup comes around, nobody under 70ish will have actually seen our one win. I saw the one in '66. My chances of seeing the next are no better than 50:50 1 3
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago A quote from Tuchel, "I haven't seen the data yet but I think..." He's another spreadshit manager. From an analysis by Paul Hirst of The Times of the 37 minutes after we scored and they got their second, "84 O’Reilly blocks a De Paul shot and then breaks free from his position in the midfield block of four, surging forward to tackle Messi and force Argentina back into their own half. Anthony Barry, the England assistant manager, runs off the bench and yells at O’Reilly, demanding that he retreat to his defensive wing position." 2
badgerx16 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I saw the one in '66. My chances of seeing the next are no better than 50:50 Will the WC still be a thing n 5050 ? 3
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 40 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Will the WC still be a thing n 5050 ? Maybe, but I know when England will get knocked out.
Lighthouse Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said: England must be doing something right. How else do we explain how annoyed everyone is, that we didn't win the World Cup. Surely that's a step in the right direction? No really, all we’ve done in recent campaigns is the same we’ve always done. Beat the fodder and a couple of reasonably competent teams, then come unstuck against the first properly decent team we play. We’re playing the same as we always have but in an era where Italy, Germany, Brazil and the NL are a bit sh*t. 3
Saint NL Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago I saw a rumour that Gareth Southgate is poised to replace Poch as the American manager.
BARCELONASAINT Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago It's great being a dual National, i get 2 bites at the cherry. One evening i'm over the moon celebrating another World Cup Final to look forward to and the next night i'm left reeling with the feeling of sheer frustration that England fucked up monumentally. Now feeling slightly nervous that an Argentina side that should never have reached the final might be destined by the footballing gods to actually win it again. Bloody hope not!
Wade Garrett Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: A quote from Tuchel, "I haven't seen the data yet but I think..." He's another spreadshit manager. From an analysis by Paul Hirst of The Times of the 37 minutes after we scored and they got their second, "84 O’Reilly blocks a De Paul shot and then breaks free from his position in the midfield block of four, surging forward to tackle Messi and force Argentina back into their own half. Anthony Barry, the England assistant manager, runs off the bench and yells at O’Reilly, demanding that he retreat to his defensive wing position." Another twat out of his depth. Tuchel is a chancer. I would rather Eddie Howe was in charge. Ultimately, I would love Pep. I hope they get rid of Tuchel. Talks a good game but he buckled under pressure. Wouldn’t mind betting he starts to talk out of turn. He’s got form for it. 4
Roy Munson Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Dunno if it has already been said but this Argentina side are bang average. On the balance of it, England should have walked into the final but yet again we tried to defend a 1 nil lead. Get Pep in.
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, Roy Munson said: Dunno if it has already been said but this Argentina side are bang average. On the balance of it, England should have walked into the final but yet again we tried to defend a 1 nil lead. Get Pep in. It's been said. In fact, I've probably said it. On balance, we were probably favourites and probably should have beat them on the night if we hadn't shat the bed in the last 20 minutes. However, to say Argentina are bang average is nonsense. They're the current world cup holders and Copa America holders, now in a second successive world cup final, with some world class players, including the greatest player of all time (albeit in twilight years of his career). Looking back, England clearly underestimated them, which was their biggest mistake. Even at half time the England assistant coach was talking about expecting England's Premier League fitness/power to shine through. It's clearly bollocks. There's no shame in losing to Argentina. But there is major shame in the manner in which it happened. 4
Sarnia Cherie Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago If ever there was a pointless football match it has to be 3rd/4th place in the World Cup.
Stripey McStripe Shirt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: If ever there was a pointless football match it has to be 3rd/4th place in the World Cup. Nah. What about the play off semi final?
Roy Munson Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said: It's been said. In fact, I've probably said it. On balance, we were probably favourites and probably should have beat them on the night if we hadn't shat the bed in the last 20 minutes. However, to say Argentina are bang average is nonsense. They're the current world cup holders and Copa America holders, now in a second successive world cup final, with some world class players, including the greatest player of all time (albeit in twilight years of his career). Looking back, England clearly underestimated them, which was their biggest mistake. Even at half time the England assistant coach was talking about expecting England's Premier League fitness/power to shine through. It's clearly bollocks. There's no shame in losing to Argentina. But there is major shame in the manner in which it happened. I get the respect for their track record, but you have to look at the actual performances in this World Cup, not just the names on the team sheet. They haven't been tearing anyone apart. My point is that England didn't lose to a peak, unstoppable global superpower; we lost to a beatable, transitioning side because our default setting is to panic and sit back the second we get a lead. We played the badge, not the actual team in front of us. Mentally, England are weak when it comes to the crunch.
Football Special Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: If ever there was a pointless football match it has to be 3rd/4th place in the World Cup. I remember some of the Italia 90 (England) squad saying they hated that game Suffer the heartbreak of a semi final defeat they just wanted to get home after that, not hang around the hotel waiting to play another game that everyone thought was pointless
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