Kingsland Red Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Strange post on the bbc website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8094975.stm I love the way Wotte said: "If Matt Le Tissier wants to help the club for a better future we have to open the doors and invite him." I'm confused as to who is which side of what door !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Strange post on the bbc website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8094975.stm I love the way Wotte said: "If Matt Le Tissier wants to help the club for a better future we have to open the doors and invite him." I'm confused as to who is which side of what door !! I like the bit where he says it will be good to work with a football man.Very much moving to keep his job i would have thought, especially where he states about stability and having too many changes in the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Sounds promising I’m more optimistic about our future than I have been in a while.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Very strange statement. Who does he think he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Presuming the reports about him already having met with MLT and TL are correct then the odds are that he is probably staying ! Personally I will back any decision that the new owners make on the basis that our unconditional support can only be good for the club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Presuming the reports about him already having met with MLT and TL are correct then the odds are that he is probably staying ! Personally I will back any decision that the new owners make on the basis that our unconditional support can only be good for the club !I think that is a fair way of treating things.We all hope for a glorious start with a manager and new players but deep down we know it will be mainly more of the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I've always thought that they would invite Wotte to stay on but I don't think it will be as manager. I think he will revert to his previous Academy Director role. Does anybody know whether Gorre is still under contract, or has he been released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Assuming the Pinnacle talks are completed the Wotte will stay at the club but not as manager. Dowie has already met with MLT but he is waiting to see what happens with newcastle. MLT will meet with 3 others (not got any names yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Interesting article - Wotte's use of the word "we" post Pinnacle meeting suggests he has been told that he has a role to play in the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 This man is a weasel, trying to keep his job by kissing up to his presumed new boss. Don't forget his comments about protesting fans. He's a complete JERK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Interesting article - Wotte's use of the word "we" post Pinnacle meeting suggests he has been told that he has a role to play in the club. although i would like to see a clean sweep of all things lowe,i do think that wotte still has a role to play at sfc.....just not as manager hopefully. he seems to have a few decent contacts in holland which could benefit us in some way,perhaps a loan of a couple of decent players? or a nod towards a decent up and coming young dutch player looking for a challenge in england? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 "If Matt Le Tissier wants to help the club for a better future we have to open the doors and invite him." F**k off Wotte. you don't get to invite anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 This man is a weasel, trying to keep his job by kissing up to his presumed new boss. Don't forget his comments about protesting fans. He's a complete JERK! Let it go man - how did the protests help anyway. saints fans fighting saints fans - what good did that do. A lot of Wottes comments get lost in translation and this is a new beginning for the club but that does not mean there isn't a role for him. He seems quite well liked by the lads so give the guy a break and leave the past in the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Was this a dig at lowe? "It's so much better to speak with an ex-player, a great player, a superb player, than with a chairman that doesn't have any football background." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Assuming the Pinnacle talks are completed the Wotte will stay at the club but not as manager. Dowie has already met with MLT but he is waiting to see what happens with newcastle. MLT will meet with 3 others (not got any names yet). How reliable is your source. Don't want any names but have you received correct information before and how close is your source to the takeover group (I'm assuming it's someone close to MLT)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 "If Matt Le Tissier wants to help the club for a better future we have to open the doors and invite him." F**k off Wotte. you don't get to invite anyone. ditto to the above - get off the guys back - we move forward as one - united. In that number as the song goes! He has worked away in the background keeping things going in a difficult situation and deserves the chance of a new beginning. Lets see what the next few days bring and the new roles that are identified. We must be unified. we wanted a fresh start and we look like we might get one so give it a chance before we start judging people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 ditto to the above - get off the guys back - we move forward as one - united. In that number as the song goes! He has worked away in the background keeping things going in a difficult situation and deserves the chance of a new beginning. Lets see what the next few days bring and the new roles that are identified. We must be unified. we wanted a fresh start and we look like we might get one so give it a chance before we start judging people! Indeed...I do think that Wotte perhaps realises that his comments about the protesters made him look like a tool.... 'I don't know what they are protesting about'...hmmm could have Googled 'Rupert Lowe' before he joined, that would have given some clues... Anyway, onwards and upwards - since then I've been impressed with him - seems dedicated to the cause, rather than doing a runner. Happy to see him stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Who is 'Mark Wotte' to know whats what about football and indeed chairman. Look at his track record in football ffs !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadiz saint Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Who is 'Mark Wotte' to know whats what about football and indeed chairman. Look at his track record in football ffs !!!!! Your'e not too keen then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Who is 'Mark Wotte' to know whats what about football and indeed chairman. Look at his track record in football ffs !!!!! I don't think any manager could have kept us up last season. And he's been nothing but positive, i think he's been an a good solid manager given the resources he had at his disposal. As for track record I believe he was highly regarded at Feyernooyd (SP) and at PSV. Some of the hate he gets is totally unmerited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I don't think any manager could have kept us up last season. And he's been nothing but positive, i think he's been an a good solid manager given the resources he had at his disposal. As for track record I believe he was highly regarded at Feyernooyd (SP) and at PSV. Some of the hate he gets is totally unmerited. I think Billy Davies would have kept us up last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Really unsure what you lot are on about. He is saying he is happy that MLT is part the Pinacle group. Wotte suggests he has Wotte it takes to make a decent chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Let it go man - how did the protests help anyway. saints fans fighting saints fans - what good did that do. A lot of Wottes comments get lost in translation and this is a new beginning for the club but that does not mean there isn't a role for him. He seems quite well liked by the lads so give the guy a break and leave the past in the past! That's why they call him Mr. Chocolate? Do they like him so well that they played their hearts out for him? The man only cares about himself. If he were to stick around in any function we would have a tumor inside right from the beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 The quicker hes gone the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I think Billy Davies would have kept us up last year.Yep I think you could be right.Although there was a lot of unrest in the Forest camp Im reliably told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Who is 'Mark Wotte' to know whats what about football and indeed chairman. Look at his track record in football ffs !!!!!strangely enough his record was as good if not better than NP's with a poorer squad. just shows stats are not always a good guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 strangely enough his record was as good if not better than NP's with a poorer squad. just shows stats are not always a good guide. Pretty sure both Wotte and Pearson had a job to do to try and turn around a team with sinking morale, though Wotte's job would have been easier because the kids were much less likely to be jaded and it would have been easier to motivate them. Pearson's task was arguably much tougher, though we'll only really know that once we see where the current crop of players ends up professionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Was this a dig at lowe? "It's so much better to speak with an ex-player, a great player, a superb player, than with a chairman that doesn't have any football background." Could be! He still needs to go tho' - clean sweep n all that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 BBC still using the "if" word, not "when". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Assuming the Pinnacle talks are completed the Wotte will stay at the club but not as manager. Dowie has already met with MLT but he is waiting to see what happens with newcastle. MLT will meet with 3 others (not got any names yet). The first choice wa a no go, Dowie I doubt because of the timing, third choice probably off else where, so Wotte may get a shot because of timing and options available. Or we could actually see a new manager tommorow? But it does appear Wotte is looking into things but can hardly take that as a definitive as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 How reliable is your source. Don't want any names but have you received correct information before and how close is your source to the takeover group (I'm assuming it's someone close to MLT)? u guessed it in one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 u guessed it in one Mike Osman ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Strange post on the bbc website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8094975.stm I love the way Wotte said: "If Matt Le Tissier wants to help the club for a better future we have to open the doors and invite him." I'm confused as to who is which side of what door !! I agree. It was an odd comment. I think he's trying to align himself with the incoming parties, as in, "I'd like to be your friend" which is double-talk for "please keep me on when you get into your kingdom". :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Not who but Wotte does he think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Pretty sure both Wotte and Pearson had a job to do to try and turn around a team with sinking morale, though Wotte's job would have been easier because the kids were much less likely to be jaded and it would have been easier to motivate them. Pearson's task was arguably much tougher, though we'll only really know that once we see where the current crop of players ends up professionally. Pearson was able to bring in some decent players on loan to improve the squad he inherited... I don't think Wotte had that luxury. I'm not saying one was better than the other, I think they both had difficult jobs to do. Anyway, I'd be happy to see Wotte stay in some capacity, but preferably in a more behind-the-scenes role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Just doing his job as the manager of the football club. It's in the club's interests to get a good chairman. I think he deserves a cahnce in League 1. It could be the making of him and I agree with the above posting that he seems to get on with the players. We want to hit the ground running next season, not take half the season to get going with a new manager and players, like we usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 And so the divide begins. That didn't take long, did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I don't think any manager could have kept us up last season. And he's been nothing but positive, i think he's been an a good solid manager given the resources he had at his disposal. As for track record I believe he was highly regarded at Feyernooyd (SP) and at PSV. Some of the hate he gets is totally unmerited. I think there are a few managers that could have kept us up last season but most of them would have cost more and put us into admin sooner. Still at least the points would not have carried into next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 And so the divide begins. That didn't take long, did it? the devide is happening on just speculation at the mo. dred to think what will happen when someone actually comes out with a decission! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 The first choice wa a no go, Dowie I doubt because of the timing, third choice probably off else where, so Wotte may get a shot because of timing and options available. Or we could actually see a new manager tommorow? But it does appear Wotte is looking into things but can hardly take that as a definitive as yet. What on Earth are you talking about? That doesn't just go for this post, but virtually every post you make. You are a bufoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 New Manager/Coach very soon....Wotte in Holland spouting a few throw away remarks does not impress me at all...Good luck to him wherever he goes soon...hopefully. How soon some of you forget there is no evidence whatsoever of him being a good coach...Look what he did ever since he arrived with his co coach JP and his Dof F Rupes. Sorry..... I have kept the side running during the summer holiday....does not wash with me. He has not really achieved from day one. The players like him ...what a load of baloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Last season has to be the worst I have witnessed in the 56 odd years I have watched the red and Whites. The biggest disaster area has slung his hook after making certain we would be screwed. You can try telling me that it was Barclays that pulled the plug but I would expect someone in his position to know exactly where he stood in such a set of circumstances. Everyone caught up in the sorry mess has to pay the price. As much as Wotte may have done in recent times he failed to motivate our team enough to win a game at home against any of the bottom teams if I remember correctly. That alone should secure him his P45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 (edited) strangely enough his record was as good if not better than NP's with a poorer squad. just shows stats are not always a good guide. no one will let that get in the way of the hate Edited 11 June, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I don't think any manager could have kept us up last season. And he's been nothing but positive, i think he's been an a good solid manager given the resources he had at his disposal. As for track record I believe he was highly regarded at Feyernooyd (SP) and at PSV. Some of the hate he gets is totally unmerited. I think loads of managers could of kept us up...why...because not many would of continued with a stupid 1 up front for 25 games!!! Wotte was here from the start of the season he was part of the championed management team and not here just from January. He was part of the setup that bought in 7 shocking loans. As for his Dutch career here are 2 articles that prove otherwise as to highly regarded. http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/feyenoord-where-did-it-go-wrong.html Someone appointed former youth player Mark Wotte as technical director. Why? Nobody knows. Wotte was a mediocre coach at mediocre clubs. Didn’t have any management experience at all. Still, he was in charge of building a new Feyenoord, with Ruud Gullit. I don’t know how many players came from how many different countries, but at the end of the day, Wotte/Gullit failed. Miserably. Ebi Smolarek was told to leave (he went to Borussia Dortmund where he had a sensational season), http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/dutch-manager-lined-up-by-saints-520362.html Sources say Wotte was unpopular at Feyenoord and some at the club were happy to see him go. He has been blamed for their failings, with many of the players he has brought in not living up to expectation. Wotte is not regarded as a coach of any great ability but will fit into the structure planned by Lowe and Woodward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I think loads of managers could of kept us up...why...because not many would of continued with a stupid 1 up front for 25 games!!! Wotte was here from the start of the season he was part of the championed management team and not here just from January. He was part of the setup that bought in 7 shocking loans. As for his Dutch career here are 2 articles that prove otherwise as to highly regarded. http://netherlands.worldcupblog.org/1/feyenoord-where-did-it-go-wrong.html Someone appointed former youth player Mark Wotte as technical director. Why? Nobody knows. Wotte was a mediocre coach at mediocre clubs. Didn’t have any management experience at all. Still, he was in charge of building a new Feyenoord, with Ruud Gullit. I don’t know how many players came from how many different countries, but at the end of the day, Wotte/Gullit failed. Miserably. Ebi Smolarek was told to leave (he went to Borussia Dortmund where he had a sensational season), http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/dutch-manager-lined-up-by-saints-520362.html Sources say Wotte was unpopular at Feyenoord and some at the club were happy to see him go. He has been blamed for their failings, with many of the players he has brought in not living up to expectation. Wotte is not regarded as a coach of any great ability but will fit into the structure planned by Lowe and Woodward. after being a member of this place for the last 10 years or so. It makes me realise you can NEVER read too much into what fans think after someone leave them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 I think there are a few managers that could have kept us up last season but most of them would have cost more and put us into admin sooner. Still at least the points would not have carried into next season. And also, if the points gained were enough we might still be a CCC side. I have said before that if he stays it should at most be as an assistant. I do believe we need a clean sweep though. That said I am a saints fan first and having seen how close we have come to oblivion I will back the new owners regardless. I would hope that they have a bit more gumption than the previous lot and would change things if they needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 after being a member of this place for the last 10 years or so. It makes me realise you can NEVER read too much into what fans think after someone leave them But one article isnt from fans though is it - also I have a whole seasons evidence to base my views on. Wotte isn't good enough to get us back up, I want us to shoot a lot higher and fed up with just picking second best, Gray, Wigley, Dodd/Gorman, JP so why for once can't we get someone in who will do a decent job. Many shot down Billy Davies, Neil Warnock, Blackwell and Fat Sam......all kept their clubs up and improved last season. We ended up with 2 dutch jokers and may want one still here unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 Wotte isn't good enough to get us back up I think that says it all imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 But one article isnt from fans though is it - also I have a whole seasons evidence to base my views on. Wotte isn't good enough to get us back up, I want us to shoot a lot higher and fed up with just picking second best, Gray, Wigley, Dodd/Gorman, JP so why for once can't we get someone in who will do a decent job. Many shot down Billy Davies, Neil Warnock, Blackwell and Fat Sam......all kept their clubs up and improved last season. We ended up with 2 dutch jokers and may want one still here unbelievable. i dont think wotte is good enough either. but to slag him off the way some are when all he said is "we" and a bit of positive spin at this part of the season or NON season is quite laughable... the new owners are probably on a hiding to nothing already if they want wotte involved in some capacity.. jesus, some are getting up tight because they dont know all the details of what is going on right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodster Posted 11 June, 2009 Share Posted 11 June, 2009 get rid, no good (4 wins in 18), FRESH start needed with some ambition!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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