SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Tony Lynam Tony Lynam is offline Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Southampton Posts: 6 Default Guys Since I've had calls from various press (and no doubt my colleagues have too), I think it's only fair that you are all told the same thing at the same time, hence a quick time out to drop you a line. I want to make something crystal clear. I have NOT ASKED for a decision about the 10 point deduction. I have met every condition within the Football Leagues own rules, and thus should be allowed the right to an appeal after our takeover is complete, should I wish to take that action. As I have explained to countless people involved - detach yourself from the situation, and lose your emotional ties for a moment, and just ask yourself one question. “If I am being asked to waive my rights to an appeal against a decision, how confident are the people who made that decision that it was the correct decision in the first place?” I appreciate that the on-going uncertainty is causing concern to both fans and staff alike, so it is in all of our interests to pull together and make sure these issues are resolved as quickly as possible. I am confident that the Football League will work with us to resolve their issue, and the Lawyers will continue their work in resolving a couple of minor legalities. When all of that is done, we will put pen to paper. Finally, please bear in mind that Southampton Football Club will be a member of the Football League. Whilst I appreciate peoples frustration, please do not allow your heart to rule your head and make accusations against the League. As a member, we will need to work with the Board of the League and other members, so they are our colleagues. I remain confident that all of these issues will be resolved in a timely manner. Kind regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 This is turning out to be another long day and it's fast becomming apparent we will get no answer today! Thanks for at least keeping us all in the picture Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Good news and thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 "please bear in mind that Southampton Football Club will be a member of the Football League." Even if we don't bow to their demands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northam Girls Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Thanks for the updated Tony and as I said before it is nice to hear 1st. The fact that you value the fans shows that you guys are the right move for our beloved club. Keep up the good work, don't give up on us and all the very best of heartfelt wishes go with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Very good point with regard to the decision being correct in the first place, FL must think we have a very good case under appeal or else they would not want us to sign our right to appeal away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 thanks mate i quite like the sound of this guy..... although communicating on a message board (like uncle mike)...i just a sense of realism with him I hope this turns out as good as it sounds... we shall see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 thanks mate i quite like the sound of this guy..... although communicating on a message board (like uncle mike)...i just a sense of realism with him I hope this turns out as good as it sounds... we shall see Well for starters its real name and realistic statements - no promises, no idealistic dreams and no fan friendly rhetoric - just good old fashioned common sense - Kind of expected it really as my old buddy NSS speaks highly of the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I totally agree with where Tony is coming from. My brother in law and I were saying the exact same thing. The football league appear scared that if we have enough money to buy us a decent lawyer, he would be likely to rip their decision to pieces and get the points issue overturned. Good luck with everything Tony, you win my respect for keeping us all in the loop fairly regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun of spain Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 A case of the Football League saying "let's teach them a lesson",and now realising perhaps that the decision was flawed ? It's blackmail any way you look at it by the Football League,why should the fundamental right of appeal be signed away in order to get a licence.Tony is right when he says,"how confident are the people who made that decision that it was the correct decision in the first place". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 "please bear in mind that Southampton Football Club will be a member of the Football League." Even if we don't bow to their demands? which division is the the big question??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I feel more reassured that it will go through... hopefully with a right to appeal too. But I do get the feeling this is going to take the rest of the week to get sorted. How painfully frustrating!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Another non-statement with no content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Quote: Originally Posted by Tony Lynam Guys Since I've had calls from various press (and no doubt my colleagues have too), I think it's only fair that you are all told the same thing at the same time, hence a quick time out to drop you a line. I want to make something crystal clear. I have NOT ASKED for a decision about the 10 point deduction. I have met every condition within the Football Leagues own rules, and thus should be allowed the right to an appeal after our takeover is complete, should I wish to take that action. As I have explained to countless people involved - detach yourself from the situation, and lose your emotional ties for a moment, and just ask yourself one question. “If I am being asked to waive my rights to an appeal against a decision, how confident are the people who made that decision that it was the correct decision in the first place?” I appreciate that the on-going uncertainty is causing concern to both fans and staff alike, so it is in all of our interests to pull together and make sure these issues are resolved as quickly as possible. I am confident that the Football League will work with us to resolve their issue, and the Lawyers will continue their work in resolving a couple of minor legalities. When all of that is done, we will put pen to paper. Finally, please bear in mind that Southampton Football Club will be a member of the Football League. Whilst I appreciate peoples frustration, please do not allow your heart to rule your head and make accusations against the League. As a member, we will need to work with the Board of the League and other members, so they are our colleagues. I remain confident that all of these issues will be resolved in a timely manner. Kind regards Tony Thanks for the update... and before you get the wrong impression, I think its born out of the frustration of these last two years let alone the last few months! Most I think would agree that waiving a right of appeal is NOT in the best interests of the club, but maybe feel that given the current situation, and whatever the legal technicalties, seeing a confirmation of our survival and the unveiling of the new owner/s and teh positive sthis would bring are in some ways more imporatnt to fans right now than the 10 points - which given the wave of renewed optimism and support could be overcome anyway with the right management in place.... The frustration is not helped by the Football leagues stance as you mention, why insist on no right of appeal if the case is solid anyway - I suspect because in the cold light of legal scrutiny the club may have a techical case, but do we have the stomach for such a fight? There is alos the greater good of the game to consider... the impact that a successful appeal could have on the league and other clubs - I know its not fashionable to consider anything but our own position, but it would be hypocritical of me to condem the the way the game has evolved in terms finace and what this has done to stiffle true sporting competition, if not accepting that sometimes its perhaps better to take one on the chin for the greater good and maintain the moral high ground? Whatever, I am sure you and your team and advisors will be doing all you can for a successful resoltion and I wish you all the very best in your negotiations. Thanks for the graft these last months. It is appreciated. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I think that's code for "stop writing stupid emails to the FL, it wont help" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Does this mean the meeting is over/still happening - needs further meetings or what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Another non-statement with no content. happy s*d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Tony Lynam Since I've had calls from various press (and no doubt my colleagues have too), I think it's only fair that you are all told the same thing at the same time, hence a quick time out to drop you a line. .............. As I have explained to countless people involved - detach yourself from the situation, and lose your emotional ties for a moment, and just ask yourself one question. “If I am being asked to waive my rights to an appeal against a decision, how confident are the people who made that decision that it was the correct decision in the first place?” Kind regards Tony Clever man :-) I that post reads true he's telling us what he's told the press including the "how confident are they (the FL) that it was the correct decision" bit All he's doing is asking the question, no making any accusation, but now phrase is going to be all over the media- leaving the FL little option but to grant our right to appeal or have the whole football world assuming they are covering up their mistake.. Clever clever man :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Nice to get these updates from Mr Lynam. Reading between the lines it seems to me we are still a few days away from the deal being completed. FL may make a decision today but he has mentioned other small legal matters and completion in a timely manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 The calm and measured way in which he is approaching the purchase of our club fills me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Completing the deal on time, without losing exclusivity and giving us enough time to run a decent pre-season would fill me with confidence. Trying to shore up the fanbase with meaningless daily updates showing no progress does not fill me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I think that's code for "stop writing stupid emails to the FL, it wont help" ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Completing the deal on time, without losing exclusivity and giving us enough time to run a decent pre-season would fill me with confidence. Trying to shore up the fanbase with meaningless daily updates showing no progress does not fill me with confidence. i agree the longer this goes on the worst next season will be, this HAS to be sorted soon or next season could be wasted imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Completing the deal on time, without losing exclusivity and giving us enough time to run a decent pre-season would fill me with confidence. Trying to shore up the fanbase with meaningless daily updates showing no progress does not fill me with confidence. Meaningless in what sense? because its not full of detail and timings? Have we not had enough of such 'meaningful' updates from the previous tyrekickers? Its true teh statemnet does not reveal much, but it does contain a reasonable request to maybe see the sitaution as sensitive and not yet clear cut - TL will also by readding between the lines - be looking to get fans to remain patient and calm and not get too wound up by the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Very helpful to receive these updates. Thank you I guess these things may well not be sorted today, but hopefully asap......gonna need top be patient a little longer I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 One thing that is something somebody can clear up, does this statement of not asking for the -10 to be waived tie up with MLTs Sky interview? I cant find Matts bit but I thought the -10 was mentioned.I might be and hope iam wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Completing the deal on time, without losing exclusivity and giving us enough time to run a decent pre-season would fill me with confidence. Trying to shore up the fanbase with meaningless daily updates showing no progress does not fill me with confidence. just because its not Lowe!! TL et al have every right to appeal the decision. They want whats best for SFC, unlike you it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Completing the deal on time, without losing exclusivity and giving us enough time to run a decent pre-season would fill me with confidence. Trying to shore up the fanbase with meaningless daily updates showing no progress does not fill me with confidence. Reading his dailys...fills me with confidence Reading yours and others panic posts.......does not fill me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 This is a matter of principle. Everyone should have the right of appeal. TL is fighting for that right even though he and the new board may choose not to use it......in the end whether they do or not is not the issue, it's the right to do it should they so wish. If the club did then appeal and lost, the decision would be accepted. It is the right of appeal itself that is being defended. Rightly so IMO, and even by Lord M's own statements of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 You go Tone, fight the FL... I cannot emotionally detach myself from the club and its situation unfortunately so I hope, like many, you wipe the floor with those slimey FL bastards and set a precedent for future situations like this, giving hope to all clubs. Shame it's come to late for Luton, Rotherham etc but someone needs to make a stand, and I am immensely proud it's us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 22 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 22 June, 2009 (edited) Nice to get these updates from Mr Lynam. Reading between the lines it seems to me we are still a few days away from the deal being completed. FL may make a decision today but he has mentioned other small legal matters and completion in a timely manner.MLT mentioned these 2 small matters on his SSN interview, and i quote "we have a 2 small issues to settle with the crediters" not the FL. Hope that sheds some light for some! Edited 22 June, 2009 by SOTONS EAST SIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I think that's code for "stop writing stupid emails to the FL, it wont help" I think that's precisely what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Stick to your guns Tony and get us our 10 points back. Dont worry, weve been waiting a while now, a few more days wont hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 He's playing this damn near perfectly. Right now there is no appeal but he's looking for media support for his right to launch one after the takeover is complete. He makes a killer (and very quotable) point when he says “If I am being asked to waive my rights to an appeal against a decision, how confident are the people who made that decision that it was the correct decision in the first place?” His last paragraph is classy and diplomatic - asking us not to "make accusations against the League" and to remember that "we will need to work with the Board of the League and other members, so they are our colleagues." Very impressive. How heartwarming it is - after the past five years or so - to see this kind of tact, diplomacy and genuine respect for the fan base (even if he's giving us a little nudge away from the emotional reactions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 I think that's code for "stop writing stupid emails to the FL, it wont help" Absolutely. That was one approach that was never going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Le Tissier in the SSN report talks of a "level playing field". Surely he means by that starting on 0 points like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 what do people think, we gonna have a solution today or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Absolutely. That was one approach that was never going to help. It wouldn't help but also wouldn't do any harm. In other words pointless either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 He's playing this damn near perfectly. Totally agree with that. The sort of bloke we need around to advise in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 "I am confident that the Football League will work with us to resolve their issue, and the Lawyers will continue their work in resolving a couple of minor legalities. When all of that is done, we will put pen to paper" So the FL will work with us to resolve THEIR issue?????? I am grateful for TL's updates but it is even more confusing now and it would be good to be given some sort of timeframe here as the players are back in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 He's playing this damn near perfectly. Totally agree with that. The sort of bloke we need around to advise in the future. But, can he get cheap photocopiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 "I am confident that the Football League will work with us to resolve their issue, and the Lawyers will continue their work in resolving a couple of minor legalities. When all of that is done, we will put pen to paper" So the FL will work with us to resolve THEIR issue?????? I am grateful for TL's updates but it is even more confusing now and it would be good to be given some sort of timeframe here as the players are back in training. That caught my eye too. I guess what Tony is saying to the FL is that the issue of giving up the right to appeal is an purely FL issue (and not Pinnacle), simply because it is the FL that is breaking the law with that stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 "I am confident that the Football League will work with us to resolve their issue, and the Lawyers will continue their work in resolving a couple of minor legalities. When all of that is done, we will put pen to paper" So the FL will work with us to resolve THEIR issue?????? I am grateful for TL's updates but it is even more confusing now and it would be good to be given some sort of timeframe here as the players are back in training. They will need paying again soon as well. The clock is ticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Once again thanks Tony for your hard work and continued effort to sort out this out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 As much as I'm grateful for TL's updates, and really I am, I feel as if we are simply treading water. I've never known such a club to take this long in doing ANYTHING. I appreciate it is an extremely complex situation we find ourselves, but I feel as if we need something concrete and official from MF or TL. I honestly do not see what harm a press conference would do: Nothing has to be said that could put the takeover on the backfoot, a simple time-scale would suffice. Just SOMETHING of substance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Tony, Do you think you could end your posts "COYR". It's how it's done on here. Thanks, Mole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Le Tissier in the SSN report talks of a "level playing field". Surely he means by that starting on 0 points like everyone else. Sorry to be dim but what interview was this and when was it shown? Again, to add my thanks to the superlative way Tony is handling this - can you for one second imagine Lowe et al treating us with this level of dignity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Bring back Woggy...COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 22 June, 2009 Share Posted 22 June, 2009 Why has this only been posted on here?? It hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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