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Solent reported this morning that AP has said the club will not be bringing in anymore players unless squad players exit. So - if you could chose three pro players to move on out of the club, who would it be?

 

Just three mind ;).

 

Mine would be - Wotton; Pulis; Forecast.

 

Wotton we could still use, he is more use than Pulis, Forecast, Molyneux.

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Gillett could be one of the players leaving. He rejected a loan move to Northampton prior to the transfer window closing.

 

Lancashire could be off to Hibs too whilst White and Gobern are available should any club fancy them on a temporary basis.

 

Personally, I'd try and ship out Molyneux and Pulis as I can't see either of them getting near the first-team any time soon.

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When people criticise Pulis, it would be interesting to know if they have actually seen him play. As one who hasn't, I can't offer an opinion, except that if the coaches think he's worth a reserve team place, I'd back their judgement. If the coaches decide he's not good enough, then fine, and if he never makes the first team bench I would expect him to be moved on at some point, but until then fans should get off his back.

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When people criticise Pulis, it would be interesting to know if they have actually seen him play. As one who hasn't, I can't offer an opinion, except that if the coaches think he's worth a reserve team place, I'd back their judgement. If the coaches decide he's not good enough, then fine, and if he never makes the first team bench I would expect him to be moved on at some point, but until then fans should get off his back.

 

Saw him play at Cheltenham pre-season seemed incapable of passing to a teamate and kept mis-timing his challanges and fouling the opposition, all he could do well was hoof the ball aimlessly forward.

 

Maybe it's these atributes that pursuaded Mr Lowe to sign him !

 

Personally, I can't understand why he's here and how he justifying his wages.

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Give it to Ron

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When people criticise Pulis, it would be interesting to know if they have actually seen him play. As one who hasn't, I can't offer an opinion, except that if the coaches think he's worth a reserve team place, I'd back their judgement. If the coaches decide he's not good enough, then fine, and if he never makes the first team bench I would expect him to be moved on at some point, but until then fans should get off his back.

 

I have seen him play 3 times.....absolutely bloody useless in all 3 games.

No pace, can't tackle, gives the ball away cheaply, no engine , constantly fouling opponents as can't get in a good position quick enough.

Most of these are born out of his lack of actually playing matches and fitness and sharpness....also his inability to get off the treatment table.

 

So why don't you watch him and get off the fans back that have seen him???

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eelpie

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Sell

Forecast

Pulis

Molyneux

Boyle

Poke

 

Loan

Gobern

White

McLaggon

Lancashire

 

Sign

Good youngsters from League 1, 2 and Conference. Cheap, add depth to the squad and should have some potential unlike the players listed above under 'sell'.

 

I don't think the top four are sellable. May get a few peanuts for Poke from Torquay. Agree with the loans.

But save us from more untried kids, please.

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Give it to Ron

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Forecast should be kept over Bart. He's had a bad run here but is a good keeper and former coach Webster was/is a big fan. We should stick with him.

 

I would get rid of both...if you watch them in Ressie games they scare the balls off me every time a cross comes into the box.

I am not going by what Grimsby fans think either as it was always going to be difficult going there in that position.

I just pray nothing happens to KD!!!!

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The9

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When people criticise Pulis, it would be interesting to know if they have actually seen him play. As one who hasn't, I can't offer an opinion, except that if the coaches think he's worth a reserve team place, I'd back their judgement. If the coaches decide he's not good enough, then fine, and if he never makes the first team bench I would expect him to be moved on at some point, but until then fans should get off his back.

 

Yes, saw him last week, he was terrible. Not just terrible, but "what is he doing on the pitch and how does he in any way deserve to get to play against Salisbury reserves" terrible - and we won that game 6-1.

 

Slow reactions, ponderous on the ball, inaccurate passing and... well, his positioning was ok, mostly, to be fair.

 

As I said last week, his two backpasses were the highlight of his performance, both making it to the penalty area without causing an opposition goal. Everyone else in a Saints shirt looked like they were treating it as a training exercise by the 15th minute, Pulis was having trouble coping on the ball.

 

I saw him "play" in midfield last season too, didn't really know he was there, I suspect the other 10 refused to pass to him. The Coaches know Pulis is getting paid and I guess they're making him earn it - the idea of trying him at right back was at least worthwhile given Murty's injury and a dearth of options, but we released Hatch from there last season and he was streets ahead of where Pulis is in that position.

 

To answer the overall question, I'd like us shot of Lancashire, Pulis and Saganowski permanently (two poor players and one who doesn't try), and White, Gobern and Thomson on loan because I think they'll benefit from it - though where we loan players to now when we're at the level we used to loan them to I'm not sure - rubbish SPL clubs ??

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The9

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Sell

Forecast

Pulis

Molyneux

Boyle

Poke

 

Loan

Gobern

White

McLaggon

Lancashire

 

Sign

Good youngsters from League 1, 2 and Conference. Cheap, add depth to the squad and should have some potential unlike the players listed above under 'sell'.

 

Of the "sell" list, I actually think Boyle's been quite useful, certainly worth a squad place and brings variety in our current left side options. He's not a million miles behind starters like Mills (if a very different player) and he's not been involved for long and could yet make great strides.

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Sell

Forecast

Pulis

Molyneux

Boyle

Poke

 

Loan

Gobern

White

McLaggon

Lancashire

 

Sign

Good youngsters from League 1, 2 and Conference. Cheap, add depth to the squad and should have some potential unlike the players listed above under 'sell'.

 

Wouldn't loan out McLaggon - this boy will add some variety aka pace when he returns.

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Solent reported this morning that AP has said the club will not be bringing in anymore players unless squad players exit

 

A question if I may....

 

Did he indicate whether this is due to the financial 'constraints' imposed by Cortese/Liebherr regarding the prudent running of club's finances or was he speaking purely from the footablling angle...i.e. he doesn't want the 'logistical overhead' of running a larger squad...?

 

Cheers

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Of the "sell" list, I actually think Boyle's been quite useful, certainly worth a squad place and brings variety in our current left side options. He's not a million miles behind starters like Mills (if a very different player) and he's not been involved for long and could yet make great strides.

 

I agree with Boyle. Only seen him play the once but was impressed with him.

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Did he indicate whether this is due to the financial 'constraints' imposed by Cortese/Liebherr regarding the prudent running of club's finances or was he speaking purely from the footablling angle...i.e. he doesn't want the 'logistical overhead' of running a larger squad...?

 

Cheers

 

I think he said previously that he only wanted a squad of a certain size but certain players, either not required, not ready or not motivated were currently taking up some of those places.

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I would get rid of Pulis, Forecast, Lanca****e, Molyneux and Thompson.

 

I would loan out White and Gobern, but certainly not McLaggon, I would like to see him in an around the first team on his return.

 

Who the hell is Boyle????

 

Not all that surprised that people don't rate Thomson, based on some of his earlier St Mary's appearances, but he can't keep being that bad forever when he's had a lot of very good reserves matches. He's also a fast winger who can actually defend (and cross, honest), and we could do with keeping the ones who can work both ways.

 

Boyle is the short dark haired kid we got from the Channel Islands last season, I think he was a striker but we've played him on the left wing/midfield the times I've seen him - he played at Eastleigh and Bournemouth pre-season. Quite nippy, uses the ball well, for some reason I know he can finish too, not sure why that's in my head though.

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The9

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what size Umbro shirt would she need????

 

Depends, if it's the England/Man City "tailored" ones it'll be chest measurement, for all us no-mark Umbro teamwear monkeys it's probably gonna be the XXXL - or "the OoohTerryHurlock" as I now call it. :)

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Not all that surprised that people don't rate Thomson, based on some of his earlier St Mary's appearances, but he can't keep being that bad forever when he's had a lot of very good reserves matches. He's also a fast winger who can actually defend (and cross, honest), and we could do with keeping the ones who can work both ways.

 

Boyle is the short dark haired kid we got from the Channel Islands last season, I think he was a striker but we've played him on the left wing/midfield the times I've seen him - he played at Eastleigh and Bournemouth pre-season. Quite nippy, uses the ball well, for some reason I know he can finish too, not sure why that's in my head though.

 

Oh yeah I recall now, I went to Bomo this year and was wondering who our Number 11 was all game.

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Pulis, Forecast and Molyneux should be the first out the door but there's no chance anyone will sign any of them. We've got another four years of Forecast to look forward to.

 

I'd loan out Gobern, White and Lancashire, I think with a bit more first team experience those three could be good enough for the first team in a few years.

 

I'd probably sell Saganowski, Thomson, Thomas and Holmes if there where decent alternatives we could bring in.

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Pulis and Molyneux to League 2 clubs - there not going to play for us so do them and us a favour by sending them out on loan

 

Saga will leave for a Championship club allowing us to bring 2 or 3 players in for the same salary (Craddock and Gradel?)

 

Lancashire, Thomson, White - loan them out to get some experience in League 2 - and maybe Boyle as well

 

Also have to send one of Bialkowski and Forecasr out on loan to get some experience - and Bart needs the confidence from playing regularly

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When people criticise Pulis, it would be interesting to know if they have actually seen him play. As one who hasn't, I can't offer an opinion, except that if the coaches think he's worth a reserve team place, I'd back their judgement. If the coaches decide he's not good enough, then fine, and if he never makes the first team bench I would expect him to be moved on at some point, but until then fans should get off his back.

 

I understand the point you're trying to make, but we shouldn't be signing players on the basis that they are good enough for the reserve team. The reserve team is for those who can't quite force their way in to the first 11 & bench. And we when money was so tight last year, we certainly shouldn't have been signing a player who can't get anywhere near the first 11 unless its the first pre-season friendly of the year.

 

My three, as already stated by many, would be Pulis, Molyneux & Forecast. We sereiously need to get some of the younger fringe players out on loan as well, starting with Lancashire.

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I offered The three musketeers..Pulis, Molyneux and Forecast to my mate in Weymouth.

He declined the offer as he states his pub team is in a very good standard league.

Not sure they would get in THE Weymouth side at the mo and they will take anybody....Even Steve Claridge got a game the other day at about 45 years of age.

 

Not good enough even for the reserve side...Ship em out now.

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When people criticise Pulis, it would be interesting to know if they have actually seen him play. As one who hasn't, I can't offer an opinion, except that if the coaches think he's worth a reserve team place, I'd back their judgement. If the coaches decide he's not good enough, then fine, and if he never makes the first team bench I would expect him to be moved on at some point, but until then fans should get off his back.

 

I appreciate the sentiment behind your post Prof, but I'm afraid he is as cr@p as people are saying ! FF alluded to some shady deal between Rupert and his dad and I'm afraid that when you see him play you'll fully understand why !!

FWIW my 3 to go would be Pulis, Forecats and Lancashire (Molyneux is not great but we might just need an LB if Harding is injured and all else goes wrong at the same time !

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Forecats ! Sounds like the 4 candles sketch, eh ?
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Give it to Ron

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I like Ben Reeves but he is another of our long line of midgets and I feel he will go the same way as the others, big potential in the boys leagues but not physically strong enough to hack it in the real world.

 

I wrote something similar the other day - our club as a whole is rife with nice, ball playing competant youngsters. All pretty decent and some with a fair amount of ability and very promising....but when they come up against the physical teams we get clobbered.

I know quite a few in the youth set ups and still we are recruiting the small, lightweight decent lads, we should be looking for far bigger, physical lads to match the divisions we will be in for a few years.

Recently we have had too many of the Whites, Lancashires, Boyle, Gasmi, Thomson type and not enough of the Baseya and Kenwynne physiques.

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I'd probably sell Saganowski, Thomson, Thomas and Holmes if there where decent alternatives we could bring in.

Eh? Who would you play at right back?

Against Huddersfield he had a mare but I think he has taken quite well to right back. He isn't great going forward but with Trotman and Jaidi in the middle you can't knock the size of them.

I nearly pooped my pants on Saturday when he grabbed some Charlton chap by the neck, he is a scary mother****er and I hope he spends Saturday afternoons for the rest of the season making opposition players his *****.

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