John B Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Has he a point as I was not there I dont know http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8410648.stm Norwich manager Paul Lambert told BBC Radio Norfolk he was unhappy with the referee's handling of an incident between Grant Holt and Michail Antonio, seconds before Saints' equaliser, with the Norwich man claiming he was slapped. I dont care myself as I hope to be at Wembley in March - thirty years or so after I last saw Saints lose in the League Cup Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Has he a point as I was not there I dont know http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8410648.stm Norwich manager Paul Lambert told BBC Radio Norfolk he was unhappy with the referee's handling of an incident between Grant Holt and Michail Antonio, seconds before Saints' equaliser, with the Norwich man claiming he was slapped. I dont care myself as I hope to be at Wembley in March - thirty years or so after I last saw Saints lose in the League Cup Final not a case imo. They couldnt handle his pace and were consistently pulling him back. And if anyone is to moan it should be us at the refs non handling of the cheating No. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Lol. From what I heard on the commentary they picked up at least two bookings for cynical tackles on Antonio. You gotta love football manager blinkers © Wenger & Ferguson Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 I the second half Norwich should have been down to 9 men for their cynical dirty play. The guy near the end was tring to get our player sent off, it was right in front of me and there was clearly no contact. Their manager should be asking why we scored in the injury time that was added on due to their own cynical tactics - sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Their manager should be complaining about his side losing concentration in the 93 minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 For him to complain after Martin (?) got away with a booking for clearly swinging at James right in front of the lino is a bit rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Their manager should be complaining about his side losing concentration in the 93 minute Yep - in fact it was Holt's theatrics that caused said concentration lapse in my view. Their players were too busy protesting to the ref, plus Holt didn't get back to help defend (and, fat or not, he's big and strong in the air). I thought the funniest part was that, having tried to to get Antonio sent off, Holt was then clearly protesting that he needed the trainer on to assist him, even though he was off the pitch at the time. Fat fool. If Norwich's manager felt aggrieved that his team didn't win then he has a point - they should have done. But, as they only went one goal ahead, the match was always open. As we've seen so many times over the years, if you don't make your dominance pay then you can lose out. Norwich did, big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Lambert (Paul) can f.uck off. Is should be Holt that he's berating, not the ref. If he (Holt) didn't go down like he'd be shot by a sniper in the stands, he would have been back defending and possibly stopped our Lambert getting the flick on in the box. IMO the ref should have booked him (thus sending him off) for simulation - he didn't believe him, as he had a word with him while he was rolling on the floor looking like a pr1ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Apparently "Alan said the same". Tongue firmly in cheek no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 excellent...always good to not be the ones getting 'robbed' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Rubbish! Antonio didn't touch him, f*cking incensed me that did! How about they ask Lambert about the deliberate foul play to hack Antonio down when he'd had a pretty clear run on goal. Should have been a red card, don't care if there were other defenders around him it was a deliberate & professional foul. I suppose Lambert also missed the boot to the face Harding received shortly after? C*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Lambert (Paul) can f.uck off. Is should be Holt that he's berating, not the ref. If he (Holt) didn't go down like he'd be shot by a sniper in the stands, he would have been back defending and possibly stopped our Lambert getting the flick on in the box. IMO the ref should have booked him (thus sending him off) for simulation - he didn't believe him, as he had a word with him while he was rolling on the floor looking like a pr1ck. My son went to the game last night and he was convinced that Holt was yellow carded twice, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depressed of Shirley Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 My son went to the game last night and he was convinced that Holt was yellow carded twice, So was I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Holt went down like a ****, he should have been booked for it. For some reason with about 15 minutes to go Norwich decided they wanted to get physical, well tough luck it came back and bit them on the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 My son went to the game last night and he was convinced that Holt was yellow carded twice, According to some observers, it was another player (Doherty or Docherty perhaps?) who got booked in the first half. Holt was booked in the second. And he should have been booked a second time and thus sent off for his play-acting at the end there. Norwich were an odd mix I thought. They played some lovely stuff, with Hoolahan (in particular) and Russell at the heart of most of it, but they were more than happy to kick us like hell as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Admit it, Paul Lambert. It is simply a case that on the day, Saints were better than Norwich. It's as simple as that. It's only poor losers who blame the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 My son went to the game last night and he was convinced that Holt was yellow carded twice, So was the 4th official! Ref got yellow card out to book holt a second time, and indeed seemed to actually book him, but it was very vague. I think he realised halfway through that it would be the second booking and chickened out of sending him off. For a few minutes afterwards holt was looking at the ref as if to say am I booked or not? And then a few minutes later when the ref was over by the dugout the 4th official went over to him as if to check something ...my interpretation was he was asking "didn't you just book holt twice but not send him off ?" Ref could be seen shaking his head. Add to that the fact that one of their players clearly punched James right in front of the linesman yet was only booked and Lambert should think himself lucky he had 11 men on the pitch ...and both of them took penalties btw. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 According to some observers, it was another player (Doherty or Docherty perhaps?) who got booked in the first half. Holt was booked in the second. And he should have been booked a second time and thus sent off for his play-acting at the end there. Norwich were an odd mix I thought. They played some lovely stuff, with Hoolahan (in particular) and Russell at the heart of most of it, but they were more than happy to kick us like hell as well. The BBC sport text showed Holt with a yellow. Wondered why he didn't get sent off in the 2nd half when he got booked. Mind you, BBC Sport also credited Harding with the equalizer. It wasn't even close to be Harding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbster Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 The stats on the bbc site said Martin was yellowed twice. In a league game i think they would easily been down to 9 men, they were dirty feckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbster Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 So was the 4th official! Ref got yellow card out to book holt a second time, and indeed seemed to actually book him, but it was very vague. I think he realised halfway through that it would be the second booking and chickened out of sending him off. For a few minutes afterwards holt was looking at the ref as if to say am I booked or not? And then a few minutes later when the ref was over by the dugout the 4th official went over to him as if to check something ...my interpretation was he was asking "didn't you just book holt twice but not send him off ?" Ref could be seen shaking his head. Add to that the fact that one of their players clearly punched James right in front of the linesman yet was only booked and Lambert should think himself lucky he had 11 men on the pitch ...and both of them took penalties btw. K. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 So was the 4th official! Ref got yellow card out to book holt a second time, and indeed seemed to actually book him, but it was very vague. I think he realised halfway through that it would be the second booking and chickened out of sending him off. For a few minutes afterwards holt was looking at the ref as if to say am I booked or not? And then a few minutes later when the ref was over by the dugout the 4th official went over to him as if to check something ...my interpretation was he was asking "didn't you just book holt twice but not send him off ?" Ref could be seen shaking his head. Add to that the fact that one of their players clearly punched James right in front of the linesman yet was only booked and Lambert should think himself lucky he had 11 men on the pitch ...and both of them took penalties btw. K. exactly my interpretation of what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Jockstrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 when James was on the ground at the touchline their player punched him twice in the back - not hardest punches but clearly fists and arms pulled back - about two foot away from the linesman - a booking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 The BBC text commentary corrected the booking to Doherty. How Lambert can complain about the incident when he's about 100 yards away and it's on the other side of about 4 players, I've no idea. It was right in front of me and it was very clear that Antonio's arm hit Holt in the ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Their manager should be complaining about his side losing concentration in the 93 minute A familiar feeling that we know about.What sweet joy when we are the beneficiaries of the 93rd minute goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 The stats on the bbc site said Martin was yellowed twice. In a league game i think they would easily been down to 9 men, they were dirty feckers There were two Martins - Chris and Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 What a fecking joke. Their players: Beat up Lloyd James Kicked Perry in the guts Cynically tripped Antonio when he was clean through. They were lucky to have any players on the park. So Lambert can lick my left one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Only a poor workman blames his tools ! And the tool inthis case was Holt ! How refreshing it was to see some style defeat a bunch of cynical bruisers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 There were two Martins - Chris and Russell. Makes sense, coming from Naaarwich. I bet all of their squad are called 'Martin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 I like it when the other managers are not happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Jake Humphrey (BBC F1 presenter) isnt happy either: jakehumphreyf1 Better team lost on the night...but why am I even fed up that NCFC are out of the JPT!?!?!?! Should I reply to his tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 when James was on the ground at the touchline their player punched him twice in the back - not hardest punches but clearly fists and arms pulled back - about two foot away from the linesman - a booking? Any one remember Vignal being sent off at Wolves for something less? Can't remember the exact detail except it involving a throw in (I think he pulled the ball off a Wolves player that was holding onto it?), anyways, just about the softest sending off I've ever seen. Back on topic ... great effort last night and fair dues to the 15k+ who made it along, unfortunately I had to choose Leeds so hopefully more of the same on Sat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Makes sense, coming from Naaarwich. I bet all of their squad are called 'Martin' Wasn't the farmer who shot the pikey called Martin as well? One big happy Norfolk family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Rubbish! Antonio didn't touch him, f*cking incensed me that did! How about they ask Lambert about the deliberate foul play to hack Antonio down when he'd had a pretty clear run on goal. Should have been a red card, don't care if there were other defenders around him it was a deliberate & professional foul. I suppose Lambert also missed the boot to the face Harding received shortly after? C*nt. Holt landed not one but two punches on Antonio (right in front of me and in front of the lino) Clearly two punches are not enough for a red. Norwich lost because they focused on petty time wasting tactics, sly fouls, forgot to play good football when they were in the ascendency, and simply lost their cool and concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Jake Humphrey (BBC F1 presenter) isnt happy either: Should I reply to his tweet? Yes and say the better team would have won if they did not include a cynical, overweight striker whose bid for an Oscar didn't go unnoticed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Admit it, Paul Lambert. It is simply a case that on the day, Saints were better than Norwich. It's as simple as that. It's only poor losers who blame the referee. we weren't though, for the first 25 minutes or so we were great, then Norwich were on top until about 70th minute, then we really struggled to break them down. That said though, there second goal was a bad richochet that could have gone anywhere and their first goal came from us giving the ball away for a foul throw and a free kick awarded to them which was never a free kick. Over the 90 mins though i think Norwich were the better side but good to see the never say die attitude in the team, how many times have Man Utd not played well and snatched a draw or win in injury time, mark of a decent side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Talking of ****ty decisions, was I only one who saw the linesman by the Itchen flag Holt for being offside, then putting his flag down when he scored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 So did they get 6 bookings? if thats the case they get a fine dont they? If so they deserve it by the sounds of things, my Dad and bro were at the game and said that Norwich were the dirtiest team they'd seen at St. Mary's for years Lambert is a *****, your team failed to concentrate in the last minute and then your keeper was second best - get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Talking of ****ty decisions, was I only one who saw the linesman by the Itchen flag Holt for being offside, then putting his flag down when he scored? I thought that - I thought that there were at least 2 of them offside for their second but I was on the halfway line wthout the best view in the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Grant Holt is a poor mans Rickie Lambert! Paul Lambert is one of those bosses who tries to go for the scary approach, he's a tosser. Nowich in all are a bloody annoying excuse for a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(not THE) Kevin Moore Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 I thought that - I thought that there were at least 2 of them offside for their second but I was on the halfway line wthout the best view in the world! He definitely was offside and the lino definitely flagged, whether he was flagging for another infringement and played an advantage? It was still a **** piece of officiating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 For him to complain after Martin (?) got away with a booking for clearly swinging at James right in front of the lino is a bit rich. Abso-f*cking-lutely. Was right in front of me and he should have seen red for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Listening to that was like listening to Wenger must have had Wenger specs on ****. I hate Lambert he is a total t*ss pot. He tried to finish the game in a cynical manor & it came back to bite him in the arse SHAME. sounded like they kicked Antonio to bits when he came on & were lucky to end the game with 11 men, so try addressing that tw*tbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 He definitely was offside and the lino definitely flagged, whether he was flagging for another infringement and played an advantage? It was still a **** piece of officiating Just seen the highlights and the Lino's flag didn't go up for the through ball. It may have gone up afterwards but out of shot of the camera. I thought Holt was off-side when I saw it live and he definitely looks goal side of Harding, when the ball is played, although it's not totally conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 What a prat! His side spent the best part of the game trying to kick us off the park. As for Antonio slapping thier player - do me a favour, he's hardly Mark Dennis or Joe Jordan is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Talking of ****ty decisions, was I only one who saw the linesman by the Itchen flag Holt for being offside, then putting his flag down when he scored?When did Holt score? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 we weren't though, for the first 25 minutes or so we were great, then Norwich were on top until about 70th minute, then we really struggled to break them down. That said though, there second goal was a bad richochet that could have gone anywhere and their first goal came from us giving the ball away for a foul throw and a free kick awarded to them which was never a free kick. Over the 90 mins though i think Norwich were the better side but good to see the never say die attitude in the team, how many times have Man Utd not played well and snatched a draw or win in injury time, mark of a decent side. I disagree. I thought that we shaded it as the better team. Yes, there were periods when each team were in the ascendancy, but overall I thought that we were better than them. The better team wouldn't need to resort to cynical fouls and gamesmanship, would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 I disagree. I thought that we shaded it as the better team. Yes, there were periods when each team were in the ascendancy, but overall I thought that we were better than them. The better team wouldn't need to resort to cynical fouls and gamesmanship, would they? No, but they did anyway. Their general play was better than ours IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 No, but they did anyway. Their general play was better than ours IMO. Certainly for most of the second half. Lambert's negative tactics in the last 10/15 minutes caused them to lose the tie, by handing the initiative back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Share Posted 16 December, 2009 Certainly for most of the second half. Lambert's negative tactics in the last 10/15 minutes caused them to lose the tie, by handing the initiative back to us. Yes, but we were still nowhere near our best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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