shurlock Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1945835,00.html good to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 That's a reassuring and good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 aw.. we are his baby Nicole.....Papa Seriously good to hear though, onwards and upwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Brilliant stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 It's good to read that Nicola is comitted to Saints. If he was to leave i'd be very worried about whether Mr Liebherr wanted to remain as our owner. If you're reading this Nicola i think it's time to call a truce with the Daily Echo. As much as you may not like the paper and it's Editor (sentiments I agree with) we all need to be pulling in the same direction. Up The Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Thats OK then now sort out the problem with the Echo Must admit I never really thought he would leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Good news indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Top man , has demonstrated a very professional approach to this story of the Italian approach. Insightful also of the internal problems of the club upon his arrival and the work required to get SFC back on track. I think sometimes we all forget how desperate things were prior to May 09 and it is going to take time, plus we must not be disapointed if we don't make the play offs this year when in consideration of where we were seven months ago , frustrating as it may be of the last two league results we are moving forward , we are involved in two massive cup games and there is excitment instead of doom , lets be patient with AP and the team, it will come together. ML has full confidence in what is happening it seems and we must also , but we must be a bit patient for it to start really taking off. Getting to wembley in the JPT will be a real coop , can you imagine the feeling for ML Nc and their famalies when they step into wembley , a great day out and some vindication I'm sure that SFC , It's fans and area was well worth the investment , all the talk about SFC is football related .. what was the main topic for us seven months ago... COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2010 At least, the rumours weren't denied or ignored -and its not the usual defensive BS you hear - the chairman's kiss of death/vote of confidence for a struggling manager, a wantaway player who can only blandly say that "I love it down here" etc. Maybe im naive but there aren't many things that can surpass the challenge and satisfaction of rebuilding a team/club/organisation from scratch and see it grow - its easy to join an organisation at the, or near to the top. Certainly doesn't distinguish you as a person of talent from the rest of the crowd. My only hope is that his family can settle down here - that is still a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 If it wasnt for Cortese, Mr Liebherr would not have bought Saints. Thank god he is not going anywhere ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1945835,00.html good to hear Agreed, How good to hear that sort of comment from a Chairman you can respect ! Well said:), Nicola Cortese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Just thought, could the club be Fiorentina? A 'here's Waigo, fancy joining us' deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. Without Cortese, we probably wouldn't even have a club!! ML only came on board due to cortese's insistence, without Cortese on board, ML would have no interest!! He is pretty much a saviour in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. IMO, you're wrong on all accounts DP....I'd be very VERY worried, that ML would also leave, should Cortese go. It's well documented, that's he only invested because of Cortese.....yes, I'd be very worried IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 IMO, you're wrong on all accounts DP....I'd be very VERY worried, that ML would also leave, should Cortese go. It's well documented, that's he only invested because of Cortese.....yes, I'd be very worried IMHO. Agree, I would hope Cortese would outlast ML here and be the man to bring in new investor as and when ML leaves us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Hmm. A good read, if a little self-aggrandising. But should we be worried by this? Nicola Cortese talking about what Markus said to him at the time he was deciding whether to invest or not... He said at the time "I will only do this project if you will be on board" and that remains the case. Obviously that was at the time, but will Markus' desire to keep pumping in the cash wane if Nicola does eventually move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. FFS. I for one am very pleased at this response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Without Cortese, we probably wouldn't even have a club!! ML only came on board due to cortese's insistence, without Cortese on board, ML would have no interest!! He is pretty much a saviour in my opinion Apparently ML only came on board because of NC, although we only have NC say on that; but ML now owns the club, the debts have been cleared as part of the administration process and the clubs on the way forward. To think the whole wagon will go tumbling off the rails if the executive chairmen leaves is nonsense. You can't knock NC'c personal PR. He was't shy about talking how he has been approached by top Italian sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. By all accounts you couldn't be further from the truth. ML said he would only do this project with NC on (the) Board. If ( and from what I know he isnt planning on going) he goes, ML would follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggiee Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 It's great that hes actually come out and said something about the situation and not just hidden away from it, transparency in the club is one of the main things we all wanted during the summer and it looks like hes going to give that. Well done Cortese, good man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. Mug. So all the other chairmen in the history of the game who have the ability to set strategy (youth first and then flog it), appoint and sack managers (pearson), get or not get funding (sisu) have had zero ability to influence or in some cases inflict damage on a club. You know where Im going with this one.... Edited 27 January, 2010 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Good news. Nice to hear Nicola reaffirming his commitment to Saints. I would have been surprised if he had left so soon into his tenure, but it's always a concern when you hear of links like this. Stability is key, and we appear to have that here, great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 (edited) I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. sh11t stirrer or just plain mad? by the way, it was Juve Edited 27 January, 2010 by theyin forgot something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 By all accounts you couldn't be further from the truth. ML said he would only do this project with NC on (the) Board. If ( and from what I know he isnt planning on going) he goes, ML would follow. I must agree that the bit in bold is the bit I noticed in the article and I must admit it did worry me a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. This is the comment of somebody totally and utterly blind to the situation that we were in and what brought about our very survival. Did you not read what Cortese said? ML only got involved because of him. Get it? The likelihood is that if Cortese were to leave, then Liebherr would too. And if Liebherr left, we certainly wouldn't be able to replace him with somebody of a high calibre. Still, Liebherr won't score thirty goals a season either, so let's replace him with a chairman who can, eh? Sometimes I truly despair about some of our so called fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Without wanting to jump on the bandwagon, there is a piece on this in the echo today. The story for me is incredibly patronising, it seems to insinuate that this approach seems to be a figment of his imagination and states that no one in Italy has ever heard of Cortese. Of course they spoke to at least 3 contacts in Italy (which is clearly everyone?) and seem to assume that it was Fiorentina. This fued is going to run and run with childish pieces like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Well if you can't find the heart to truly be proud that we've got a Chairman of NC's calibre then I honestly don't think you've got the best interests of Saints at heart either. That statement is a very well intentioned and detailed account of NC's position. Not only that, he has taken the trouble to make it clear that he is a football man himself - not just a money man (or penpusher!). I think a huge debt of gratitude is owed to NC by every Saints supporter, if not the entire population of Southampton - because he has saved the club and is slowly but surely putting Southampton back on the map. I am convinced that within 5-10 years we will see a remarkable transformation of the club - one that will see us back at the top table of English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I would be interested if any saints employees could comment as to the change of morale for those working at the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 The echo are still playing mind games and being total C***s re NC They didnt need to put the following in the article - Tossers "Mr Cortese's subsequent interview was broadcast on the same station, which has a commercial deal with the club, today. Mr Cortese, has given interviews to Radio Solent recently. When approached about the speculation surrounding Mr Cortese, who does not speak directly to the Daily Echo at present, a spokesman for Southampton Football Club refused to comment. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I think I love the cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 The echo are still playing mind games and being total C***s re NC They didnt need to put the following in the article - Tossers "Mr Cortese's subsequent interview was broadcast on the same station, which has a commercial deal with the club, today. Mr Cortese, has given interviews to Radio Solent recently. When approached about the speculation surrounding Mr Cortese, who does not speak directly to the Daily Echo at present, a spokesman for Southampton Football Club refused to comment. " Just reads like amateurish journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I couldn't give a toss whether he stays or goes, he isn't going to score 30 goals for us this season, and I'm sure ML would swiftly replace him with someone of a high caliber. Southampton FC is bigger than any one individual, particularly pen pushers. If it weren't for that 'pen-pusher', we might well not have a club now. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I'm just worried about if he does jump ship and what would happen and that Marcus would jump ship too. I mean what would happen if that happened? I've never seen our fans so determined to keep a chairman it kinda makes a very welcome change! Lets hope the Echo and Cortese sort it out because it's not in anyones real interests to have a childish feud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I would be interested if any saints employees could comment as to the change of morale for those working at the club? Too subjective imo, dependant upon the department and position held you may not get an unbiased answer, favourably or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 hope he spends his time trying to sign good players for the rest of the window and doesn't waste time meeting the editor of the echo (who misses Lowe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 ............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Cortese is a man with a vision for Saints, there is no doubt about that. Personally i believe that vision could be higher than any of us dare to currently imagine. He has been extremely successful in everything he has done and the signs are that will continue with saints. He is a very smart man and i think he realises that with the infrastructure and fan base that we have this club could be massive. The talk is of 5 year plans to get back to the premiership and how we will spend appropriately for whatever level saints are at. I dont want to think too far ahead or dream too much but with saints back in the premier league and with ML's financial backing, a full st marys stadium again, i can see the stadium being extended and Saints being taken to a level that we should have been taken to after we won the FA cup and were signing two times current european player of the year. I have thought for a long time that cortese was virtually 100% responsible for bringing ML onboard. It appears to be the dream partnership and i still have to pinch myself sometimes to make sure this is all actually happening. I am so grateful for what Cortese has done for us and he will probably never realise just how much what he has done means to me and the many thousands of saints fans in southampton and around the world. Without doubt my life has changed beyond belief since he and ML came into the club. For many years i watched rich owners coming into other clubs and investing huge sums of money and watched on enviously. I was always confused as to why southampton was overlooked given the huge fanbase that we have and lovely part of the world the city is in etc. I am sure the sense of achievement that Cortese would feel from taking saints from league 1 to the premiership and beyond would be almost impossible to match in any other business venture. I am so pleased he has come out and made this statement as i was very worried after reading the reports yesterday. I couldnt care less that Cortese has fallen out with the Echo, yes it would be nice if they got on but to be honest the Echo as a newspaper has been going rapidly downhill over the last few years. The Echo is supposed to support the local community and should be backing this regime 100% but instead they are out looking for sensational stories and it really annoys me. Yes of course report the truth but it appears the Echo is quire happy to print stories that harm our club. I think people should boycott the Echo as the paper is now getting petty and some of the rubbish they are printing could damage the club. Cortese as stated earlier is a very successful man and has hardly put a foot wrong since walking into the club. I would back his judgement to make the right call and back him in whatever he does as he has not only saved saints from going out of existence but we are hopefully at the start of a journey that will take us beyond our wildest dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Does anyone have Nicola's email address? The genuine address? Please PM me if so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Hmm. A good read, if a little self-aggrandising. But should we be worried by this? Nicola Cortese talking about what Markus said to him at the time he was deciding whether to invest or not... Obviously that was at the time, but will Markus' desire to keep pumping in the cash wane if Nicola does eventually move on? Should we be worried by this? On balance the answer has to be yes IMO and I am concerned by the self-congratulatory tone and an ego even bigger than the one before has seemingly landed. Had the article been written by an independent source then I would take a lot of comfort from what is being said but Mr Cortese gives me the impression that if he doesn't believe in god then god believes in him and as rhetoric goes, 'self- aggrandising' is a very good way of putting it. The last thing we need is another impenetrable egotist at the helm of the club especially if Mr Liebherr is only investing at Mr Cortese's bidding. What Mr Cortese has orchestrated at the club is miraculous but I would suggest he could not have so readily acheived that success without Mr Liebherr's substantial backing whereas Mr Liebherr I'm sure could find another Mr Cortese and one that would be a little more magnaminous about his achievements. It is disappointing that whilst recognising the speculation about the approach of a 'big club' in Italy and wanting reassure the fans of his intentions to stay at Southampton he did not consider it worthy to mention the banning of the Echo, which to some remains a concern because of the underlying implications, perceived or otherwise, that banning the press suggests. I firmly believe in the freedom of speech and to try and manage what gets reported as appears to be alleged is worrying and Mr Cortese's somewhat conceited message does nothing to allay those fears IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I think it's a great read. He is saying the right things and if he is coming over a little arrogant I'd put it down to strength and confidence. Good to see he see's us on a par with a top Italian team ( no doubt in years to come ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Glad he's staying, but to say that Liebherr will leave when Cortese does is ridiculous. Liebherr asked Cortese to stay on as Chairman AFTER he had bought the club - so what, if Cortese had turned the offer down Liebherr would have left a week or so after buying the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I think it's a great read. He is saying the right things and if he is coming over a little arrogant I'd put it down to strength and confidence. Good to see he see's us on a par with a top Italian team ( no doubt in years to come ) I dont think it comes across as arrogance really. I took that as him taking full responsibility for everything that has happened to the club, what it now is and what it is doing, therefore protecting Liebherr and the rest of the staff. Oh and maybe a bit of pride too as it has been a success so far. We can forgive the guy for feeling pretty chuffed with what has been achieved, cant we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Glad he's staying, but to say that Liebherr will leave when Cortese does is ridiculous. Liebherr asked Cortese to stay on as Chairman AFTER he had bought the club - so what, if Cortese had turned the offer down Liebherr would have left a week or so after buying the club? Read the quote again... I am a friend of Markus and I talked him into this and he keeps reminding me of that! He said at the time "I will only do this project if you will be on board" and that remains the case." From this quote it looks like we were told AFTER he bought the club but it was agreed AS A CONDITION of him buying the club. I am troubled by that last line - "and that remains the case.". This appears to suggest that Cortese being here is a condition of Markus' involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I don't believe for a second that Liebherr will just walk away when Cortese does, regardless of small insinuations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Should we be worried by this? he did not consider it worthy to mention the banning of the Echo, which to some remains a concern because of the underlying implications, perceived or otherwise, that banning the press suggests. I am not concerned by this piece, I think it is a good thing that we do not simply have an employee at the helm, if we are his baby then he will ensure we grow into something he can be proud of and he will push for us to be the best that we can be, if it is a personal thing between him and ML, he will not want to let him down and do everything in his power to make SFC something ML is proud to own with relative return. The Echo thing has now become publically personal by the article today, Murray should have used his editors response yesterday to seek reconciliation, instead he attempted to curry favour with his side of the story. As long as we continue on the up Murray is fighting a losing battle as Cortese will have our loyalty and in these times suggest the Daily Echo can ill afford any campaign that will affect their revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Hmm. A good read, if a little self-aggrandising. But should we be worried by this? Nicola Cortese talking about what Markus said to him at the time he was deciding whether to invest or not... Obviously that was at the time, but will Markus' desire to keep pumping in the cash wane if Nicola does eventually move on? I must admit, i did think the same when i read the article. Maybe he has had too much success and believes himself to be invincible? I hope he genuinely does believe that being a head of a company really isnt only about him. That said we cant be any thing but pleased that he, and more importantly M. L. are involved with our club. Certainly all the signs seem more than positive regarding the way the club is now being run, compared to the previous disgusting regime. To answer your question, should we be worried by his apparent self-aggrandising comments? I think i am just noting it mentally and hoping it just came out that way incorrectly in the article. Do i worry about people that quote comments from their own "speeches"? Yes, i certainly do. I did ask earlier in the thread if any saints employees could comment on morale internally since the new regime, because those replies would give us a better insight as to whether we should worry or not about his style or not. My gut feeling would be that morale must be much better, but will be very interested in any employees comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 Nice to have a tiger for a Chairman, rather than a daisy chain of paper tigers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 January, 2010 Share Posted 27 January, 2010 I don't believe for a second that Liebherr will just walk away when Cortese does, regardless of small insinuations. I tend to agree but things said in a quoted piece like this tend to be there for a reason. These OS articles that are about his battle with the Echo will be read, re-read and re-read again. The words that remain after editing will be there for a reason. If I put a cynic's hat on I could quite easily see Cortese as an ambitious but ego-driven control freak that wants everyone, including us fans, to bow down and be grateful that he is here. If I put my happy-clappy hat on I think we're bloody lucky to have Cortese because he's the type of driven person that will take us a long way, and that we should be eternally grateful that he brought Markus to the club. The truth is somewhere in the middle I guess and I'm not making a judgemnt on the man either way. I'm delighted he's here, pleased with what he's done so far but I do see signs that concern me a little. Taking on the Echo in this way is not too smart a thing to do, regardless of the rights or wrongs. I only hope that his battle with the Echo is more about the commercial benefits of controlling our own media relations than the personal dispute it appears to have become. The OS and Saints Player (not to mention the Twitter feed!) will get more traffic if the Echo gets zero "news". So I can see that for the club's future commercial success it might make sense to try to marginalise the Echo. But if it's just a petty, vengeful dispute that will run and run, then it does no one any favours and will only serve to bring fewer people back to the club on our journey over the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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