Thomas last night

[Goalie66]

Great win and looking forward going to Wembley. Disciplined performance by all except one player....Thomas. Got a silly initial yellow card,perhaps undeserved, but could have cost us the game on the night when he ran sixty yards to blatantly push their player(who got booked) for a handdbags incident.

 

He should have got a second yellow and was very lucky to stay on the pitch.

Pardew wisely substituted him as clearly he had "lost" it.

[Crowds]

60 yards behave...15 maybe Didnt cost us win **** happens passion of the game. Why find a negative???

[JustMike]

I Posted elsewhere...

 

"Thomas was quality imo, showed a set of balls ad leadership, something in which we have been lacking of late. Red card for him? No way, the booking he deserved but did nothing wrong in the bit that followed. He went for ince afterwards because there lot and ince were blatently trying to get him sent off for nothing."

 

As for the "ran 60yrds" bit, no, more like 5 and the other guy ran at him too, handbags, nothing else. If it was more the lino would have got involved and Thomas and / or their bloke would have been off.

[beatlesaint]

I Posted elsewhere...

 

"Thomas was quality imo, showed a set of balls ad leadership, something in which we have been lacking of late. Red card for him? No way, the booking he deserved but did nothing wrong in the bit that followed. He went for ince afterwards because there lot and ince were blatently trying to get him sent off for nothing."

 

As for the "ran 60yrds" bit, no, more like 5 and the other guy ran at him too, handbags, nothing else. If it was more the lino would have got involved and Thomas and / or their bloke would have been off.

 

Quite right, he did get overly excited and we were calling for AP to substitute him as you can never trust refs these days. He did show plenty of passion and desire to win which is grest....he could have kept his mouth shut and not got quite so involved though but fair play to him for having a go at Ince. They wanted someone sent off, that was clear, their number 9 was a pain in the arse with his constant nagging and whinging.

[ponto1963]

I was really surprised he wasn't sent off, I thought raising hands like that was an automatic red. Really relieved.

[Goalie66]

I Posted elsewhere...

 

"Thomas was quality imo, showed a set of balls ad leadership, something in which we have been lacking of late. Red card for him? No way, the booking he deserved but did nothing wrong in the bit that followed. He went for ince afterwards because there lot and ince were blatently trying to get him sent off for nothing."

 

As for the "ran 60yrds" bit, no, more like 5 and the other guy ran at him too, handbags, nothing else. If it was more the lino would have got involved and Thomas and / or their bloke would have been off.

 

He was over near the opposite byline (right back position) and the incident on the edge of the penalty area so more than 5 yards!! In any event, I admire passion and comittment but not stupidity. The ref should have sent him off as he pushed their player and was IMO dead lucky to stay on the pitch.

 

By the way I thought Lambert was outstanding.Real skill and worked his socks off

[John B]

Great win and looking forward going to Wembley. Disciplined performance by all except one player....Thomas. Got a silly initial yellow card,perhaps undeserved, but could have cost us the game on the night when he ran sixty yards to blatantly push their player(who got booked) for a handdbags incident.

 

He should have got a second yellow and was very lucky to stay on the pitch.

Pardew wisely substituted him as clearly he had "lost" it.

 

We all thought he would be sent off and would not have played on saturday.

 

There is a difference between passion and stupidity and Thomas was looking for a fight continually arguing with the ref

[saintmonkey1979]

We all thought he would be sent off and would not have played on saturday.

 

There is a difference between passion and stupidity and Thomas was looking for a fight continually arguing with the ref

 

Much like the entire MK Dons team. My take on the push was that the player who fouled Harding was stood over him giving him some abuse. The crowd reacted and then Thomas got a little hot headed and went to look out for his team mate. Fair enough, possibly OTT but he was the only one who went over. Good bit off refereeing IMO, calling the captain in and telling him to control him, luckily for Thomas as he could've seen red. Best bit of common sense refereeing i've seen anywhere for a long time.

[Junior Mullet]

Yup, Thomas was lucky. Could easily have received a red for the viscious late challenge that lead to his yellow card. Really pushed the ref to the limit with what followed. In the Premiership he would have seen the game out IMO.

 

All that aside, he was the one trying to gee up the rest of the back four and the midfield when we were not competing so well second half.

[Badger]

We all thought he would be sent off and would not have played on saturday.

 

There is a difference between passion and stupidity and Thomas was looking for a fight continually arguing with the ref

 

Exactly as I saw it.Lucky to stay on.

[S-Clarke]

i don't know why people are suprised at how Thomas acted, that's his makeup - that's why he's not in our team every week.

 

He's full of passion...but sometimes it boils over and he gets a bit silly, but it's something you have to accept with him.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Thomas had a huge part to play in our win last night by showing some heart and passion to the team. Look at the photo of their own goal - who do you see nearest to Waigo? Thomas - from the RB position - and this guy is no spring chicken FFS. To my mind the guy is a hero and he reacted to Lallana being cynically kicked off the ball ball by a Dons player. And that was after they tried to provoke a reaction on more than one occasion to get one of ours sent off. Grow some b*lls and get behind all the lads - Thomas included, because he's just the type of player that will get us out of this rubbish league.

[GenevaSaint]

60 yards behave...15 maybe Didnt cost us win **** happens passion of the game. Why find a negative???

 

Because it's stupidity like that which could cost us very important games.

[SO16_Saint]

as per a few above, i thought WT had a storming game, and helped us over the line with a strong, sometimes overly, passionate performance.

 

That seemed to rub off on a few others, like Lallana and Morgan.

[iansums]

Sorry, but he was very lucky to stay on the pitch. the booking could easily have been a red card and I was amazed he did not get a yellow after AL was fouled. We were lucky we didn't have an over fussy ref.

 

Yes, I admire his fight and passion but he stepped over the line last night. On another day that could cost us dear.

[Avenue Saint]

Thomas had a huge part to play in our win last night by showing some heart and passion to the team. Look at the photo of their own goal - who do you see nearest to Waigo? Thomas - from the RB position - and this guy is no spring chicken FFS. To my mind the guy is a hero and he reacted to Lallana being cynically kicked off the ball ball by a Dons player. And that was after they tried to provoke a reaction on more than one occasion to get one of ours sent off. Grow some b*lls and get behind all the lads - Thomas included, because he's just the type of player that will get us out of this rubbish league.

 

Temper his ways a bit but more or less this!

 

Go on Thommo!!

[Third Division South Days]

I think he's the best RB we've got. Continually playing LJ out of position this season has been a major mistake by AP.

[O_RLY]

He was lucky to stay on but who cares he was immense!

[nathan]

He is a much better right back than Otsemebor and James and would be my first choice every week. I don't understand why he was dropped for the last few games.

[Dimond Geezer]

I thought Thomas was awesome last night, as he has been whenever he’s played this season (especially at RB). I’m a Thomas fan, his passion & desire is certainly something to be admired, however, as I saw it, he ran across the pitch (the exact distance is irrelevant, but from my recollection it was the width of the penalty box), shoved their player in the chest to get involved in something that he wasn’t initially his problem. All this was no more than 5 minutes after getting booked for a foul.

 

I don’t have a problem with bookings for fouls made in the tackle, that’s part of being a defender, sometimes you get it right & get the ball, other times it goes wrong & you get the player, but to go looking for a second yellow (or even a straight red) by getting involved in someone else’s fight, it is foolish and irresponsible.

 

Other posters have inferred that he was right to get involved with the second incident, but what would have been those posters reaction if he’d been sent off, and MK had got back into the game?

 

It’s about channelling that passion in the right direction & using a bit of common sense.

[GenevaSaint]

as per a few above, i thought WT had a storming game, and helped us over the line with a strong, sometimes overly, passionate performance.

 

That seemed to rub off on a few others, like Lallana and Morgan.

 

I agree he played well, just a stupid thing to do. That said, we need that passion and drive on saturday if we're to stand a chance of winning.

[nickfinks]

I thought he was fantastic, OK he lost it a bit at the end but thats passion for the badge IMO. He is my preffered right back TBH unless murty comes back...COYR

[benjii]

Great win and looking forward going to Wembley. Disciplined performance by all except one player....Thomas. Got a silly initial yellow card,perhaps undeserved, but could have cost us the game on the night when he ran sixty yards to blatantly push their player(who got booked) for a handdbags incident.

 

He should have got a second yellow and was very lucky to stay on the pitch.

Pardew wisely substituted him as clearly he had "lost" it.

 

He did get fired up, but...

 

1) He played very well and is by far our best option at right back without Murty;

 

2) The first yellow was completely undeserved and he only got booked because the fat wotsit came charging over;

 

3) Loads of players ran over when the wotsit clashed with Hammond (? I think) - we were trying to get him sent off and rightly so.

 

4) The ref was a very measured ref (v good I thought - although a bit fussy in the second half), who was unlikely to flash a red card without due consideration;

 

5) The team as a whole showed a great match mentality and bottle.

[Turkish]

WT was excellent last night, and i agree he is out best right back in the absence of Murty. Kind of see what people are saying about him over reacting but looking at it another way it was a performance full of passion and desire to win, loved his reation to the third goal. You could look at it another way and say WT stood up to MK Dons attempts to bully us last night, certainly they did get a bit aggresive with some of the younger players and the guy that got booked was playing up as soon as he came on. If some of the players during our two relegation seasons had show half the fight he showed last night we would never have gone down.

[Bucks Saint]

I thought he was fantastic, OK he lost it a bit at the end but thats passion for the badge IMO. He is my preffered right back TBH unless murty comes back...COYR

 

Think the 80-90% of the 30,000 who gave a standing ovation when he was subbed agree with you too. Top guy

[scott_saints]

Anyone else spot his friendly wave that was directed at "wotsit" when he got subbed?

 

Made me lol anyway

[SO16_Saint]

Anyone else spot his friendly wave that was directed at "wotsit" when he got subbed?

 

Made me lol anyway

 

Didn't AP have to pull him away from Ince / their Assistant also??

[ribbo]

fair play to the ref for showing some common sense in an almost won semi final and not sending him off, fair play to WT for being immense.

[alpine_saint]

Great win and looking forward going to Wembley. Disciplined performance by all except one player....Thomas. Got a silly initial yellow card,perhaps undeserved, but could have cost us the game on the night when he ran sixty yards to blatantly push their player(who got booked) for a handdbags incident.

 

He should have got a second yellow and was very lucky to stay on the pitch.

Pardew wisely substituted him as clearly he had "lost" it.

 

On the other hand, its about time we had a player with a bit of fire in his guts.

[Fergie]

Thomas was one of the best players out there tonight, always getting the team fired up when it was 2-1 and we all started to feel a bit nervy. He is the kind of player we need in this league, maybe he was a bit hot-headed at times and pards will have to calm that down if he is going to play saturday.

 

Really like thomas at right-back and gives us more aerial power for defending set pieces too. Same line-up again for saturday please Mr Pardew.

[spyinthesky]

Thought Ref was fairly lenient last night

 

WT would have been sent off in most games and Dean Hammond had 3 or 4 'robust' challenges which would normally have been a yellow plus once he kicked the ball away after a foul

 

Still fair play to the Ref

[scott_saints]

Thomas should not be dropped. Worth being a first teamer for his attitude alone.

[Appy]

He really should of been sent off. But it really showed how much the MK Dons players dislike playing against him.

[SNSUN]

It should have been a red, but the ref was very lenient with him. A stupid move by Thomas, you don't go shoving players 20 yards away when you're already on a booking. He wouldn't have cost us the match though, we were in a higher gear than them.

 

I'd still play him Saturday, but he's a seasoned pro, and should know better.

[Saint_Jim]

Has to play Saturday, kick a few skates up in the air.

[benjii]

Has to play Saturday, kick a few skates up in the air.

 

Exactly!

[Smirking_Saint]

He can be a hot head yeah but he shows real passion at times and tbh had a good game last night.

 

I don't rate him at CB but he plays well at RB and looks pretty solid, we all know he is just a brute really but if it helps us win games so be it.

 

The lewington challange was a bit late but the way i saw it he swung for the ball and the wotsit ran into him. After that you could see all the dons players talking and you juts knew they were going to try and get him sent off.

 

He shouldn't have run over to the incident but he wasn't the first to raise his hands, that sh*tty moaning and whinging Dons N.9 pushed him away and i for one wanted to see Thomas knock him out !! All game he was p*ssing and moaning to the ref.

 

Nice to see Thomas reminding Rae who was going to Wembley as he walked off and a cheeky wave to the Dons back line, great stuff, will be interesting to see how the away game up there pans out !!

[Neilza]

Anyone else spot his friendly wave that was directed at "wotsit" when he got subbed?

 

Made me lol anyway

 

Yes!!! I was telling the guys I was at the game with on the walk home! Was well funny, he loves the game having an edge to it and who can blame him for rubbing it in that WERE going to Wembley!

[saint1977]

Thomas should be an automatic pick at RB, simple as that. Adds power, strength and leadership. Yes, he boiled over a bit last night but he wasn't the only one. MK's cloggers were moaning and whining all night, their number 9 had such a bad tantrum at not winning a corner at the Northam end that I was fully expecting him to collapse to the ground and see a straight leg kicking as he bawled his eyes out! That Gleeson is an awful player, can't control the ball and constantly late, not to mention his moaning. Amazed Ince plays him.

 

Great to see Thomas giving Ince some stick right to his face. Ince liked to bully people as a player but looked petrified and genuinely feared Thomas might lamp him one when Wayne told him exactly how it was right into his face. Let's face it, you wouldn't spill Thomas's pint would you?

[Bailey]

I thought he had a good game but he almost ruined a decent performance with a lack of professionalism, a touch of arrogance and a lot of disrespect for MK Dons and Paul Ince.

 

Thomas clearly antagonised some of the MK players after Lallana scored, and he was fortunate not to get sent off for a couple of incidents prior to that.

 

Yes, passion and commitment are brilliant, I encourage it and love to see it, but there's a line and Thommo nearly crossed it last night. Pardew made a good decision to bring him off otherwise he was heading for an early bath.

[The Godfather]

I thought he had a good game but he almost ruined a decent performance with a lack of professionalism, a touch of arrogance and a lot of disrespect for MK Dons and Paul Ince.

 

Thomas clearly antagonised some of the MK players after Lallana scored, and he was fortunate not to get sent off for a couple of incidents prior to that.

 

Yes, passion and commitment are brilliant, I encourage it and love to see it, but there's a line and Thommo nearly crossed it last night. Pardew made a good decision to bring him off otherwise he was heading for an early bath.

 

Thomas was lucky to stay on in the end but their player should of been sent off for the challange on Lallana, I think it was their number 9 Wilbraham who throughout the game was on a thin edge. Their players were trying get Thomas sent off from the moment he got booked so to say who antagonised who is down to opinion.

[Whitey Grandad]

I thought that the ref picked on him a bit, there were others that he let off for worse. The yellow was a bit harsh, he won the ball but it was from behind and maybe the ref thought he needed to calm the game down. There was another incident where the MK player ran straight into Thomas who was standing stock still and yet the ref gave him a long lecture. For the incident with Lallana he was no more involved than any other player.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I don't know if anyone saw 'Late Kick Off' on Monday, but they were discussing players all running over and getting involved after one of their team mates had been fouled. One of the pundits said something along the lines of 'there is no need for them to get involved', to which Graeme Murty replied 'I think your wrong there, if I've just been fouled I want all my team mates in there around me'.

 

This second bit is exactly what Thomas does IMO, and what he did last night. He looks out for his fellow players and protects them. He might be a bit hot headed at times but he brings some passion and fight to the team that we otherwise lack, and ultimately unifies the team more than they would be if he wasn't playing.

[rolosfc]

WT was excellent last night, and i agree he is out best right back in the absence of Murty. Kind of see what people are saying about him over reacting but looking at it another way it was a performance full of passion and desire to win, loved his reation to the third goal. You could look at it another way and say WT stood up to MK Dons attempts to bully us last night, certainly they did get a bit aggresive with some of the younger players and the guy that got booked was playing up as soon as he came on. If some of the players during our two relegation seasons had show half the fight he showed last night we would never have gone down.

 

Totally agree, if anyone had shown his sort of passion we may never have gone down in 2005 in the first place.

 

MK Dons were constantly trying to wind our players up last night and in the first leg, especially Gleeson who was constantly niggling. Luckily though we didn't get bullied oout of it like we have done many times before! COYR!

[SFKA South Woodford]

I did fear that the ref might send him off, but was also in agreement that he should of been in there standing up for his team mates, as the Dons players were constantly trying to break up our play with little kicks and fouls and then mouthing at our players for going down. For the Dons player to get in Lallana's face after he was hacked down was ludicrous. The same thing happened when Antonio was trying to get clear and two of them hacked him down, Leven was over and gobbing off at him, Antonio got up looked at him for second and then trotted off up the pitch. It also shows a unity in our squad as on Monday night Murty said that in that situation he would want his team mates in there backing him up, so fair play to Wayne.

 

As for the little wotsit, did anyone else see him go flying in on Thomas, only to bounce off of him and end up on the floor? He immediatly started to cry out in pain and grabbed his ankle for all of half second before realising the ref had given us the free kick. Was total simulation, no wonder Wayne got a little worked up when they were trying so blatantly to get him sent off.

 

As for the referee, he did himself no favours when he refused to act on their attempts to ruff us up. That challenge in the first minute should have been a yellow card as their player was late and went right through ours, then the couple of incidents with Papa getting hacked down and then whacked in the face and the one where Antonio got a whack in the face from their left back. So he let their players off totally, if he hadn't, I doubt Thomas would of been so fired up.

[The Godfather]

I did fear that the ref might send him off, but was also in agreement that he should of been in there standing up for his team mates, as the Dons players were constantly trying to break up our play with little kicks and fouls and then mouthing at our players for going down. For the Dons player to get in Lallana's face after he was hacked down was ludicrous. The same thing happened when Antonio was trying to get clear and two of them hacked him down, Leven was over and gobbing off at him, Antonio got up looked at him for second and then trotted off up the pitch. It also shows a unity in our squad as on Monday night Murty said that in that situation he would want his team mates in there backing him up, so fair play to Wayne.

 

As for the little wotsit, did anyone else see him go flying in on Thomas, only to bounce off of him and end up on the floor? He immediatly started to cry out in pain and grabbed his ankle for all of half second before realising the ref had given us the free kick. Was total simulation, no wonder Wayne got a little worked up when they were trying so blatantly to get him sent off.

 

As for the referee, he did himself no favours when he refused to act on their attempts to ruff us up. That challenge in the first minute should have been a yellow card as their player was late and went right through ours, then the couple of incidents with Papa getting hacked down and then whacked in the face and the one where Antonio got a whack in the face from their left back. So he let their players off totally, if he hadn't, I doubt Thomas would of been so fired up.

 

The way they play and act on the pitch is typical of their manager.

[VectisSaint]

Has to play Saturday, kick a few skates up in the air.

Has to play Saturday because there is no option, but should play anyway with Jaidi and Perry in the middle

[VectisSaint]

He did get fired up, but...

 

2) The first yellow was completely undeserved and he only got booked because the fat wotsit came charging over;

In as much as it should have been a straight red I suppose. sat right by the incident, it should have been a straight red, WT was very very lucky that the ref was determined not to dish out cards.

 

However I admire WT's spirit last night, he was severly provoked on several occassions by the dirty MK players (they really have some nasty pieces of work in their team, a reflection of their manager I suppose) and they were working on WT to get him sent off, it very nearly worked. But he was the only one on that pitch last night that really showed that he cared. The central defence was truly appalling, prone to panic with a back pass and unable to clear their lines.

[Mister Neil]

Didn't AP have to pull him away from Ince / their Assistant also??

 

Yep, there was a definite disagreement of sorts going on!

[oxfordshire_saint]

There are few funnier sights in football than seeing Wayne Thomas react to one of his team-mates being the victim of a nasty foul!

 

Anyone remember him going steaming in when Kemal Izzet smashed Lallana and got himself sent off when we played Colchester at home? I thought he was going to deck him but managed to restrain himself.

 

I hope he boots someone up in the air on Saturday (without getting a red of course!)