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Matthew Le Tissier

Matthew Le Tissier

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Not that it really matters but I hear nc is sacking people for fun again

 

we had a great club doctor and his team who operated part time and nc wasn't happy with this and insisted we had to have a full time doctor and medical team like Chelsea.

 

He offered the dr a full time contract which is not possible as most have there own practice, so nc said get lost!

 

Now he has searched the country high and low for a new full time dr and can't get one.

 

In the mean time Portsmouth have poached our medical team on a part time basis.

 

Totaly useless info bit IDE thought I share it.

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Matthew Le God

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It is hardly "sacking for fun" or telling people to "get lost".

 

If true...He wants a full time member of staff in that position as the company moves forward. That member of staff is unable to be full time due to other commitments and the club has decided to look elsewhere. Quite common throughout the business world.

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John B

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Bit surprised that we would have released the existing medical team without having an adequate replacment in place - but fully understand that we would want a full time doctor in place.

 

Why would he want a full time doctor seems quite strange to me.

 

What does the doctor do

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John B

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seriously..?

 

Yes seriously

 

Surely if a player is injured they would go to hospital

 

Or perhaps because we have no doctor we cannot sign players because there is no one to do the medical

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Yes seriously

 

Surely if a player is injured they would go to hospital

 

in a business where the main assets are people...very expensive people then surely it is wise to keep eveything in house..

 

at my work...the assets are the people...we have our own doctors too

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saint1977

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Why would the Skates employ them although I'm sure they would be perfectly good doctors? They've got no ferking money and no guarantee that HMRC won't successfully challenge their dodgy CVA. More anti-NC rubbish on this site - mods, sort it out. I'm all for freedom of speech but some of the recent posts on here and the Lounge have been very extreme in their views.

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John B

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in a business where the main assets are people...very expensive people then surely it is wise to keep eveything in house..

 

at my work...the assets are the people...we have our own doctors too

 

I used to work in a company of over 2000 we had a fulltime nurse but not a fulltime doctor

 

Just find it strange that SFC need a fulltime doctor thats all

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bridge too far

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in a business where the main assets are people...very expensive people then surely it is wise to keep eveything in house..

 

at my work...the assets are the people...we have our own doctors too

 

I guess it would be asking too much of a local GP to swim out to your sub, wherever it might be.

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The boy done well

The boy done well

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Why would the Skates employ them although I'm sure they would be perfectly good doctors? They've got no ferking money and no guarantee that HMRC won't successfully challenge their dodgy CVA. More anti-NC rubbish on this site - mods, sort it out. I'm all for freedom of speech but some of the recent posts on here and the Lounge have been very extreme in their views.

 

Couldn't agree more. It's getting totally out of hand. NC's working on achieving premiership status. Everything is being geared towards it. If having a full time doctor's part of the plan what's the problem.

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Couldn't agree more. It's getting totally out of hand. NC's working on achieving premiership status. Everything is being geared towards it. If having a full time doctor's part of the plan what's the problem.

 

I dont think there is a problem just surprised that a full time doctor is required but it should be easy to recruit one with all the Tory cuts

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Matthew Le God

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I dont think there is a problem just surprised that a full time doctor is required but it should be easy to recruit one with all the Tory cuts

 

It isn't uncommon in football.

 

Chelsea for example have 2 full time doctors, 1 part-time doctor, three physiotherapists and four masseurs! :D

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S-Clarke

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If Cortese left and took Markus's millions with him the people currently against him would be crying as we slip back down the leagues.

 

What is there to be against in all honesty? He's making ruthless changes and is trying some radical things - all at the same time as maintaining a competitive team on the playing field.

 

It's not time to be picking up on every single decision he makes, it's about looking forward to the future because it is going to be an exciting, albeit slightly bumpy ride.

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John B

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It isn't uncommon in football.

 

Chelsea for example have 2 full time doctors, 1 part-time doctor, three physiotherapists and four masseurs! :D

 

OK but what do the doctors do

 

I can understand three physiotherapists and four masseurs

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OK but what do the doctors do

 

I can understand three physiotherapists and four masseurs

 

Doctors play a part in the players medicals and also assist with injuries and rehab. It's all well and good saying ''well send them to A&E'' - but is that how top class clubs operate? nope. They have their own team taking care of their players.

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Matthew Le God

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Saints already have...

 

First Team Fitness Coach Nick Harvey

 

First Team Physio & Head of the Medical Dept Mo Gimpel

 

Remedial Therapist Chris Lovegrove

 

Sports Massage Therapist Mark Forbes

 

Professional Players Physio Emma Gimpel

 

Podiatrist Robert Branton

 

Performance Analyst Ben Stevens

 

Academy Fitness Coach James Bunce

 

This summer they have been advertising jobs for medical and strength/conditioning posts in the academy, development squad and first team. There is a large restructuring going on at the moment and the club is putting itself in line with the staff structures of a Premiership side.

 

Jobs available at the moment - there were many others earlier in the summer - http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Recruitment/0,,10280,00.html

 

Advertising for a senior physio as it seems someone has been promoted. Also for academy physio 9-16 year olds.

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Doctors play a part in the players medicals and also assist with injuries and rehab. It's all well and good saying ''well send them to A&E'' - but is that how top class clubs operate? nope. They have their own team taking care of their players.

 

OK seems rather specialist dont think my local GP will be applying

 

Just thought the Team of Physios etc did the rehab but you live and learn

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I assume a doctors main role would be to assist in the prevention of injury in the first place. Just another cog in the fitness team who would also be able to give direct care in our own facilitities when needed. How many hours did the part-time doc do? If he was only there during games then going full time would be way more hours than feasible so you would have to look elsewhere.

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It isn't uncommon in football.

 

Chelsea for example have 2 full time doctors, 1 part-time doctor, three physiotherapists and four masseurs! :D

 

Portsmyth had a team of masseurs for management. Not full time but available at an hourly rate :suspicious:

 

LOL that smiley looks just like Avram :lol:

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One striking finding was that virtually all club doctors were not just football

fans, but fans of the particular club for which they worked; indeed several

doctors explained that they would not want to work for any club other than

their present club. For example one doctor explained: 'I did medicine so that I

could be the team doctor - I wasn’t interested in any other team'. This doctor

added:

 

" I would find it difficult to imagine why anybody would want to

do it if they weren’t a fan. I mean it's not well paid. I enjoy the

social aspects and would go to the matches anyway. You know, I

go with my family, my dad, my father-in-law, my daughter, so we

all go to the football. I enjoy knowing everybody at the club, from

the lady who does the laundry to the chairman. They're all, every

single one, a friend. I don’t think there’s another position in the

club where you could say that you have that contact with

absolutely everybody, so you’ve got friends at all levels and

behind the scenes."

 

One doctor explained that he received

£5,200 a year for acting as club doctor but he had calculated that, applying the

British Medical Association's recommended scale of charges to the number of

hours he worked, he should have been receiving £25,000. Clearly, most

football clubs are dependent on the goodwill of their club doctors.

 

Could be the reason they might find it hard to find a full time doctor as hinted at in the opening post.

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A certain GP practice in Romsey has certainly provided medical services to both Saints and P*mpey in recent seasons, where at least one of the partners has a keen interest in sports medicine.

 

They appear as a creditor of that that down the road in their CVA documentation.

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It isn't uncommon in football.

 

Chelsea for example have 2 full time doctors, 1 part-time doctor, three physiotherapists and four masseurs! :D

 

Surprised Chelsea have not also got a gynaecologist and abortionist on their books as well.Possibly even as part of Terry's and Cole's contracts.

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Secret Site Agent

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Not that it really matters but I hear nc is sacking people for fun again .

 

I think peple need to re-read my thread on an Insight to NC.

 

It is best for the majority of us stakeholders to have a full time doctor. How disgusting is it that we only have apart time doctor. We are better than that so I am happy that WE get a better set up than others. WE have aspirations of being a Premiership club, Premiership cubs have fulll time doctors and decent training grounds, therefore that is what we shall have. Not when we get there, not next yearanmd next month,NOW. he current doctor was given the oportunity and turned it down as he was either happy in his regular practice, or he was earning a good wedge on top of his salary, and becoming a full time quack with us may not have been financially viable for him.

 

I'm sorry but I would call this thread, NC looking to improve the club by looking for a full time one. The one we had was too greedy so he has dispensed with their services to bring on one who will be fully commit to the club, nt just to do it as a hobby for a bit of beer money.

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The two mentioned doctors are Dr Richard Peace and Dr Greg Warner, who are both partners in Nightingale Surgery in Romsey. Both are avid Saints fans, Warner (and his wife, also a GP at the same surgery) regularly goes to games home and away.

 

As the article above mentions, the money a football club would pay a club doctor would not make it worthwhile (or even viable, possibly) financially for them to ditch their GP work to go full-time for the football club, hence why they've presumably had difficulty finding someone else to fulfill that role.

 

I've no issue with the club wanting to find someone full-time, but you'd have thought they'd have found someone before ditching the current part-time doctors - assuming that has actually happened, of course. The part-time arrangement didn't seem to do us any harm when we were in the Premier League, and I would imagine the medical support staff at the club would take care of most of the health-related tasks.

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OK, so thanks for info about what's happening at the club, but hey ho it's not really surprising that NC wants the best set-up he can muster. It's the building blocks to more and more success and if staff don't want to be on the train then they can jump off at the next station as far as I'm concerned.

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I wonder what sort of medical set up European (ie. continental) clubs have? It seems NC is more influenced on what these clubs are doing than Bristish ones so far in his remodelling of Saints.

 

I don't understand all this NC bashing when not all the facts have been presented. I'm not saying there are critical points which the club seemed to have ignored (ST payment plan) in their lack of communication/dialog with the fans but some of the comments are over the top (sacking people FOR FUN AGAIN) and not based on fact.

 

Let's not forget the club has tightened up on any leaks and any speculation could be half baked or ill-informed. To paraphrase NC:

 

Various posters have been quick to voice their opinions, which they are entitled to do so of course. However, it must be remembered that running a major football club is a rather different matter from writing about doing so. Our fans and staff should be reassured that any decisions affecting Saints will be based on sound football and business thinking.

 

Perhaps when all the facts are known we can then judge NC, but why string him up before then?

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I wonder what sort of medical set up European (ie. continental) clubs have? It seems NC is more influenced on what these clubs are doing than Bristish ones so far in his remodelling of Saints.

 

I don't understand all this NC bashing when not all the facts have been presented. I'm not saying there are critical points which the club seemed to have ignored (ST payment plan) in their lack of communication/dialog with the fans but some of the comments are over the top (sacking people FOR FUN AGAIN) and not based on fact.

 

Let's not forget the club has tightened up on any leaks and any speculation could be half baked or ill-informed. To paraphrase NC:

 

Various posters have been quick to voice their opinions, which they are entitled to do so of course. However, it must be remembered that running a major football club is a rather different matter from writing about doing so. Our fans and staff should be reassured that any decisions affecting Saints will be based on sound football and business thinking.

 

Perhaps when all the facts are known we can then judge NC, but why string him up before then?

A cool, considered and sensible post. I have no idea what it is doing on here ;)

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I would be worried if they sent their players to the hospital for diagnosis, considering that it took them a year to diagnose my torn ACL, even though i went into them and said 'I am 90% sure i have torn my ACL again as i felt the pop and it feels the same as last time'

 

Doctor - 'There is no way you would have felt the pop and i don't think its an ACL problem'

 

1 year later i finally see the proper consultant who says

 

'You have definately torn your ACL, i am a bit upset with my team for missing this'

 

Oh, and it was the same the first time i did my ACL 5 years ago. The NHS really are sh*te.

 

Rant over

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