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Its good to here we are still in the market for new players. I laughed at this bit...

 

"We do need a couple more, obviously we have lost Frazer which was a massive blow, and we almost lost Ant (Pulis) tonight, but his shoulder went back in - but two dislocations in pre-season isn't good."

 

why did his shoulder go back in ok and not Frazers. Also, surely Pardew isn't thinking of using Pulis for the first team?

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Because no two injuries are exactly the same.

 

I understand that. I really just meant why could it not have been the other way around. I can't see Pulis being a player that will have much of an imapct on our season but Frazer hopefully will. Do you think Pardew is hinting that Pulis has a part to play now then? maybe he has seen something about his attitude he likes.

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Its good to here we are still in the market for new players. I laughed at this bit...

 

"We do need a couple more, obviously we have lost Frazer which was a massive blow, and we almost lost Ant (Pulis) tonight, but his shoulder went back in - but two dislocations in pre-season isn't good."

 

why did his shoulder go back in ok and not Frazers. Also, surely Pardew isn't thinking of using Pulis for the first team?

 

somewhere reported that Richardson broke his collar bone when he dislocated his

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I understand that. I really just meant why could it not have been the other way around. I can't see Pulis being a player that will have much of an imapct on our season but Frazer hopefully will. Do you think Pardew is hinting that Pulis has a part to play now then? maybe he has seen something about his attitude he likes.

 

If Pardew thought Pulis had a part to play in the first team, he (Pulis) would surely have been in Switzerland, not playing Saints XI friendlies with the kids. Also, notice the praise that Pardew has for other players in that team - his only mention of Pulis is his shoulder!

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http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2098699,00.html

 

Explains how we are still in the market for players, but won't be rushed into anything as we have a strong first eleven. Don't panic people, he knows what he's doing!

 

 

Not sure I agree with him about Butterfield after last nights performance so I hope he improves

 

Not very quick and do not remember him putting any crosses in - Did not link up with the Trialist who was continully getting fouled

 

Reeves looked a much better footballer than Butterfield

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He played at Winchester the other week and looked a handy player. Left Winger. Very fast, can cross and tackle. Had a goal chalked out for offside despite looking like being in line. Good finish too.

 

Is this a quiz like 20 questions?

 

Try the Quote function next time ;)

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Like that you mean?:blush::D

 

Was answering the Jermaine McGlashen question lol

 

Well he played on the right last night and was continually fouled so it was difficult so see if he was any good

 

Looked very fast.

 

In a League Match the LB would have been booked and then may have let him play a bit

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Its good to here we are still in the market for new players. I laughed at this bit...

 

"We do need a couple more, obviously we have lost Frazer which was a massive blow, and we almost lost Ant (Pulis) tonight, but his shoulder went back in - but two dislocations in pre-season isn't good."

 

why did his shoulder go back in ok and not Frazers. Also, surely Pardew isn't thinking of using Pulis for the first team?

 

I've only been watching Football for over Fifty years, but, Heh, what do I know ???

 

Exactly WHAT is it that others can see, but I can't about Pulis ????

 

It's like a barnacle on the bottom of a boat. You know where it is, but it's a lot of hassle to get rid of

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Agree with Alpine on the CM comment, we have hammond, MS and errrrr Wotton!

 

What if MS & DH are crocked? should they be assured of their place (NO)

 

Puncheon looks ineffective in CM & Butterfield a stop gap.

 

TBH I think AP knows this anyway and is just being cute- I would still expect 3 more players at least.

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I think his comments are worrying.

 

He doesnt appear to see there is an issue in CM. He wants to bring another forward in first.

 

Also worried he doesnt seem to know how to play the team yet.

 

Valid opinions which will obviously get ripped to shreds :-)

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Sensible. We do have a great starting 11, but as he says we need to add some wingers, pace & another striking option. We look lots better when Morgan is in the side than without him, but reading between the lines I think he has a player(s) in mind & is waiting for the clubs to get replacements or get desperate for the cash. I still think its a waiting game with Antonio who will IMHO join us just before the window closes as Reading will need the cash!

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I think his comments are worrying.

 

He doesnt appear to see there is an issue in CM. He wants to bring another forward in first.

 

Also worried he doesnt seem to know how to play the team yet.

 

I must admit watching last nights game I was wondering what Cortese's Southampton way was.

 

In the First Half Farnborough were passing to feet and breaking quickly with plenty of support we were hoofing the ball mostly although we were better in the second half

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Agree with Alpine on the CM comment, we have hammond, MS and errrrr Wotton!

 

What if MS & DH are crocked? should they be assured of their place (NO)

 

Puncheon looks ineffective in CM & Butterfield a stop gap.

 

TBH I think AP knows this anyway and is just being cute- I would still expect 3 more players at least.

 

Good point - yep, if AP announces from the rooftops that we desperately need a box-to-box midfielder then the price for anyone we've got earmarked or are already talking to will skyrocket.

 

So, yep, the less it's mentioned the more likely it is to happen. In theory...

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I think we'll know a lot more about where we need to strengthen when the first team play against Sutton on Satyurday. We do need to step pre-season up a bit though!

 

Although we have a great first 11 - at the moment we don't really have any strength in depth - and not that many options that can change our play off the bench.

 

Antonio and Waigo gave us that strength in depth going forward and options off the bench. We need to replace them both if nothing else.

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Good point - yep, if AP announces from the rooftops that we desperately need a box-to-box midfielder then the price for anyone we've got earmarked or are already talking to will skyrocket.

 

So, yep, the less it's mentioned the more likely it is to happen. In theory...

 

Its a reasonable theory, and I am willing to tolerate a couple of weeks more nervousness if it gets our man.

 

The only problem with it, is why then announce that we are looking for another forward ? Wont that do something to his transfer value ?

 

The more I think about it, the more his comment about not knowing how to play the team looks the bigger concern. He is right, we have a top-notch first XI for this level, but if you dont know what to do with them.....

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I must admit watching last nights game I was wondering what Cortese's Southampton way was.

 

In the First Half Farnborough were passing to feet and breaking quickly with plenty of support we were hoofing the ball mostly although we were better in the second half

 

in a friendly...???

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Its a reasonable theory, and I am willing to tolerate a couple of weeks more nervousness if it gets our man.The only problem with it, is why then announce that we are looking for another forward ? Wont that do something to his transfer value ?

 

The more I think about it, the more his comment about not knowing how to play the team looks the bigger concern. He is right, we have a top-notch first XI for this level, but if you dont know what to do with them.....

 

Phew... I'm sure that Pardew will be relieved to hear that !!

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The more I think about it, the more his comment about not knowing how to play the team looks the bigger concern. He is right, we have a top-notch first XI for this level, but if you dont know what to do with them.....

 

I think you are making more of that comment than necessary. To me AP is saying that there is tactical work to be done to fine tune the team based on his comment in the paragraph below the advert and based on the fact that the pre season focus so far has been all about fitness. Also, obviously he knows how to set up the team as he did so successfully for three quarters of last season so the fundamentals are there already.

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The more I think about it, the more his comment about not knowing how to play the team looks the bigger concern. He is right, we have a top-notch first XI for this level, but if you dont know what to do with them.....

 

I don't really think he means he doesn't know what to do with them, more just that we haven't seen that finished side yet, it's been a lot of chopping and changing as they make sure everybody gets a run out. But against Sutton we will see his first choice side.

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I think you are making more of that comment than necessary. To me AP is saying that there is tactical work to be done to fine tune the team based on his comment in the paragraph below the advert and based on the fact that the pre season focus so far has been all about fitness. Also, obviously he knows how to set up the team as he did so successfully for three quarters of last season so the fundamentals are there already.

 

Exactly, he's not saying he doesn't know how we're going to play, he's saying that we haven't been playing that way so far in pre-season and we have just been getting fit.

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Exactly, he's not saying he doesn't know how we're going to play, he's saying that we haven't been playing that way so far in pre-season and we have just been getting fit.

 

Christ, if he said "we wont get promoted" people like you will be trying to spin it positive.

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Looking at it a different way, the closer we get to the end of the window without either:

 

a) Any sign of movement away by our key players (Lambert/Schneiderlin/Lallana); or

 

b) Antonio/Papa signing up with another club

 

the happier I get.

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Christ, if he said "we wont get promoted" people like you will be trying to spin it positive.

 

...and if he said "we are going to reach the final of the Champions league in the next 4 years", people like you would be on here crying because he only said make the final.

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in a friendly...???

 

Well I thought Friendly matches were used to try out the way we were going to play in the coming season.

 

I think Farnborough will do quite well this season might follow them from a far (ten miles ) but have not logged on to their Forum to see what Alpine Borough has to say

 

By the way I think the Southampton way is a bit of Cortese Clap Trap so it was just a sarcastic post

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Agree with Alpine on the CM comment, we have hammond, MS and errrrr Wotton!

 

Gobern? The only other option I see is maybe Wotton in the holding role as a three with Puncheon, Lallana or Chamberlain in the role Mellis played briefly to good effect before he went away with England.

 

I can see another loan deal filling this back up CM slot. Maybe even Mellis again. if we are going to buy a CM then Sameda from Charlton for me.

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Gobern? The only other option I see is maybe Wotton in the holding role as a three with Puncheon, Lallana or Chamberlain in the role Mellis played briefly to good effect before he went away with England.

 

I can see another loan deal filling this back up slot. Maybe even Mellis again. if we are going to buy the Sameda from Charlton for me.

 

By the way is Gobern injured as he and Dickson did not play last night

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