Channon's Sideburns Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 As an addition (as it's closed) to Steve Grant's thread regarding libellous posts, I would refer everyone if possible to the WSC article below, it gives some good examples where forum posters have 'come a cropper'... http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/290/29/ Bearing in mind we have a LOT to thank Nicola for, please count to ten in future before you slate him. Hindsight's wonderful (even I view Rupey Baby differently now seeing the Skate Fiasco ) but don't regret something you type in the heat of the moment. In my view, there's been plenty of vitriol posted towards NC on here recently - when you read the examples in the article and compare..... In the meantime, let's get behind Nigel, Nicola and the lads and march on. Because I'm already sick of seeing Bournemouth in 3rd Place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Don't try and confuse people with rational and relevant articles from magazines I subscribe to, they won't have it ! Nov 2007 though... and I assure you all my Cortese slating has been on the proven side of libellous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Cortese's action to remove Pardew increased the win ratio required for automatic promotion from 53% to 60%. Not a wise move. He has to be held accountable for decisions like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 The WSC article is a good read. And we do have a lot to be grateful to NC for. But he's not referred to as 'Clotese', allegedly;) for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 WSC is a good read in general. Gives the most balanced and informed views of any football magazine around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Cortese's action to remove Pardew increased the win ratio required for automatic promotion from 53% to 60%. Not a wise move. He has to be held accountable for decisions like this. Oh FFS, why oh why do people still seemed to think that Nicola took the action for a giggle. It had to be done (for whatever reason). I honestly can't get my head around the fact that so many people on here don't seem to get that. Nicola would have known that the sacking would have a negative short term effect on the club, but it was required for the long term gain. Honeslty it's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 As an addition (as it's closed) to Steve Grant's thread regarding libellous posts, I would refer everyone if possible to the WSC article below, it gives some good examples where forum posters have 'come a cropper'... http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/290/29/ Bearing in mind we have a LOT to thank Nicola for, please count to ten in future before you slate him. Hindsight's wonderful (even I view Rupey Baby differently now seeing the Skate Fiasco ) but don't regret something you type in the heat of the moment. In my view, there's been plenty of vitriol posted towards NC on here recently - when you read the examples in the article and compare..... In the meantime, let's get behind Nigel, Nicola and the lads and march on. Because I'm already sick of seeing Bournemouth in 3rd Place. Well after reading the link I've come to the conclusion football clubs don't like fans, it's alright to take our hard earned money but if we complain on the internet about something we don't like they'll hunt us down and threaten us with legal action. Whats next a micro phone under every seat at the stadium so they can identfy any fan who says anything untoward at matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Well after reading the link I've come to the conclusion football clubs don't like fans, it's alright to take our hard earned money but if we complain on the internet about something we don't like they'll hunt us down and threaten us with legal action. Whats next a micro phone under every seat at the stadium so they can identfy any fan who says anything untoward at matches.:rolleyes: That's done it now! I'm looking under my seat from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Cortese's action to remove Pardew increased the win ratio required for automatic promotion from 53% to 60%. Not a wise move. He has to be held accountable for decisions like this. What number shirt was he wearing out on the pitch when the players failed to score in the last three games yet let in 6 goals ? Did NC distract Puncheon last week when he missed from a yard out, did NC move the cross bar and posts when Barnard was so unlucky the other week ? Did Austin's shot deflect in off Cortese on Saturday ? We lost to Plymouth and drew at home to Orient under AP. i really cant see where there was much difference before and after AP's departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 What number shirt was he wearing out on the pitch when the players failed to score in the last three games yet let in 6 goals ? Did NC distract Puncheon last week when he missed from a yard out, did NC move the cross bar and posts when Barnard was so unlucky the other week ? Did Austin's shot deflect in off Cortese on Saturday ? We lost to Plymouth and drew at home to Orient under AP. i really cant see where there was much difference before and after AP's departure. You're right, he went missing. Luxury player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Cortese's action to remove Pardew increased the win ratio required for automatic promotion from 53% to 60%. Not a wise move. He has to be held accountable for decisions like this. Only by the likes of moaning minnies like you! Most seem to accept the view that it was a necessary evil forced upon him by something Pardew had said or done! Nobody was indispensible let alone Pardew, and I echo Beatlesaints examples posted above - Especially how we struggled to break down very poor opposition like Plymouth and Orient with AP at the helm. We move on with Nigel - Appointed by Nicola from a large list of applicants, and a good choice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Le Taxi Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Since this fiasco started MY rating of Mr Cortese has gone up 100%, the professional way he has dealt with the crisis has been astonishing, how he kept his dignity is beyond me! The end result is we got the right manager without being bullied! I trust him fully with MY football club. Like ive said in previous posts i hope he doesn't read this forum as most of the slating has been frankly moronic and embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 [/b] Only by the likes of moaning minnies like you! Most seem to accept the view that it was a necessary evil forced upon him by something Pardew had said or done! Nobody was indispensible let alone Pardew, and I echo Beatlesaints examples posted above - Especially how we struggled to break down very poor opposition like Plymouth and Orient with AP at the helm. We move on with Nigel - Appointed by Nicola from a large list of applicants, and a good choice too. No offence but only by those who think NC can do no wrong. Which rumours people believe on here seem to come down to whether they they feel strongly in support of NC or otherwise. None of the rumours about NC or AP have been shown to have much evidence. I no more believe that AP was found in the trainning room at Staplewood ****ging a players wife anymore than I believe that NC turnned down O'Neil to bring in Adkins. It amazes me how people on here will cling to some rumours to support their arguments while ignoring others that don't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 How can they prove who is writing what though? Even if SWF hand over my email details there is no way of proving who actually logged on and typed the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Perhaps we will never know why Pardew and his team were sacked but there can be few who surely would argue that the timing was awful for whatever reasons. Most on this board felt that Pardew was doing OK and needed time to deliver. My fear is that Adkins is under so much pressure to succeed with players he has inherited. At least Pardew bought his team to the table. In businesss you judge people by what they do and Adkins will not get the time to build his team. So if we fail this season do we fire another manager ? This is the insanity that Cortese has created by DEMANDING promotion this year. I hope we do get promotion but even if we do it might hide the weakneesses of Cortese as a motivator and manager of men which might explain the rift with Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Since this fiasco started MY rating of Mr Cortese has gone up 100%, the professional way he has dealt with the crisis has been astonishing, how he kept his dignity is beyond me! The end result is we got the right manager without being bullied! I trust him fully with MY football club. Like ive said in previous posts i hope he doesn't read this forum as most of the slating has been frankly moronic and embarrassing. Some fans are quite shocked that a team which did so well last season with a respected manager now find the respected manager sacked the team out of JPT League Cup and in the relegation zone. Which may lead them to think that the club is not professionally run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) Most seem to accept the view that it was a necessary evil forced upon him by something Pardew had said or done!..... If you don't know what Alan Pardew is alleged to have "said or done" how in the name of sweet reason can you then claim that his dismissal must have been "necessary" !!!!! As for anyone having the temerity to offer unsolicited advice on the nature of what we now are allowed to post on here, I can only say that I shall continue my longstanding policy of 'calling it as I see it' without fear or favour to anybody. I advise others to do exactly the same. Edited 13 September, 2010 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 [/b] Most seem to accept the view that it was a necessary evil forced upon him by something Pardew had said or done! The OS statement pointed to Pardew+2 being unable to co-operate with Les Reed's empire. How is firing Pardew a necessary evil? The better/cheaper option would have been to fire Reed. "Following a review of the current status in and around the First Team, the Club has decided that, to achieve its well known targets, it is essential to make changes to the First Team management and coaching. These targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the First Team and the Football Development & Support Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently, the First Team Manager, Alan Pardew; First Team Coach, Wally Downes; and Goalkeeping Coach, Stuart Murdoch have been relieved of their duties" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 (edited) Oh FFS, why oh why do people still seemed to think that Nicola took the action for a giggle. It had to be done (for whatever reason). I honestly can't get my head around the fact that so many people on here don't seem to get that. Nicola would have known that the sacking would have a negative short term effect on the club, but it was required for the long term gain. Honeslty it's not rocket science. [/b] Only by the likes of moaning minnies like you! Most seem to accept the view that it was a necessary evil forced upon him by something Pardew had said or done! Nobody was indispensible let alone Pardew, and I echo Beatlesaints examples posted above - Especially how we struggled to break down very poor opposition like Plymouth and Orient with AP at the helm. We move on with Nigel - Appointed by Nicola from a large list of applicants, and a good choice too. This is becoming water under the bridge but lets not have history re-written. The club statement was that Pardew, Downes and Murdoch were to be replaced in order to achieve the aim of promotion this season and secure long term stability and progress for the football operations. All that Cortese has addded to that (it is reported) is 'that it had to be done'. Those reasons are performance issues, not conduct. Neither do you sack the coaching staff if there has been a transgression by the manager. I shared the doubts that some others had about Pardew's performance and although I'm not yet convinced that Adkins is the best replacement we could have got, I do think he will be an improvement on Pardew. I hope he proves to be a fantastic manager who stays with us for years but I would still like more frankness in the statements from the club and less of the spin. If Pardew had been sacked for a conduct matter, or on policy issues, it would have been easy to say something along the lines of 'relationships have broken down', 'no longer able to work together', or whatever it was, instead of blaming it on performance when we had just won an away game 4-0. But if we take the club statement at face value, and we should be able to, then it can't be right to make accusations that are not substantiated. Edited 13 September, 2010 by Professor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 As an addition (as it's closed) to Steve Grant's thread regarding libellous posts, I would refer everyone if possible to the WSC article below, it gives some good examples where forum posters have 'come a cropper'... http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/290/29/ Bearing in mind we have a LOT to thank Nicola for, please count to ten in future before you slate him. Hindsight's wonderful (even I view Rupey Baby differently now seeing the Skate Fiasco ) but don't regret something you type in the heat of the moment. In my view, there's been plenty of vitriol posted towards NC on here recently - when you read the examples in the article and compare..... In the meantime, let's get behind Nigel, Nicola and the lads and march on. Because I'm already sick of seeing Bournemouth in 3rd Place. I think your message has fallen wide of the mark simply because the link you've posted does not reinforce the message. The end of that article makes it perfectly clear that legal action relating to internet posting is simply not practicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Perhaps we will never know why Pardew and his team were sacked but there can be few who surely would argue that the timing was awful for whatever reasons. Most on this board felt that Pardew was doing OK and needed time to deliver. My fear is that Adkins is under so much pressure to succeed with players he has inherited. At least Pardew bought his team to the table. In businesss you judge people by what they do and Adkins will not get the time to build his team. So if we fail this season do we fire another manager ? This is the insanity that Cortese has created by DEMANDING promotion this year. I hope we do get promotion but even if we do it might hide the weakneesses of Cortese as a motivator and manager of men which might explain the rift with Pardew. Was the timing awful? It was at the beginning of the season, with plenty of time to turn things around. And surely the more awful the timing, the more credence is placed on the theory that something serious must have precipitated it. I'm not suggesting anything beyond looking at the other side of the coin. I'm glad that you feel qualified to talk on behalf of most on this board. You must have even more support as a fans' mouthpiece than Nick Illingworth. The way that I see it is that the initial knee-jerk reaction supports your position, but that once people had the chance to consider the dismissal and accept that there must have been good reasons behind it, whatever they were, opinions have shifted somewhat. You're correct that people are judged by what they do. I wonder what the position would have been had Pardew remained to lose the three games after his dismissal. Would you be saying that he should be given more time to deliver and how long would that be? Judging Cortese by what he has done, he has taken a difficult decision because he wishes the best for this club. He has acted with a quiet dignity and has placed his trust in Adkins. So what exactly makes you believe that Adkins will not be given the time to build his team? Would you have accepted that Pardew should be allowed another year if he didn't manage to get us up this year too? And what makes you believe that the Chairman should be responsible for motivating a manager? Surely it is only his job to select the manager and from there onwards the best motivation for the manager is the risk of losing his job if he in turn cannot motivate his players. Who will get the credit if we achieve our ambition to return to the Premiership in 4 years? The Chairman or the manager? Somehow I'm going to guess you'll be crediting the manager, which is fair enough, but in the interests of balance, be good enough to also credit the one who has the faith in his abilities to appoint him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 How can they prove who is writing what though? Even if SWF hand over my email details there is no way of proving who actually logged on and typed the message. They don't need to. Most defamation cases in the UK are civil rather than criminal, so it just has to be more than likely that it was you, rather than proven beyond all reasonable doubt. And of course, the website and its owners would also be liable for your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 But we do not know the actual reason why AP and his merry men were relieved of their duties. We therefore cannot say whether the decision was justified and by extension whether NC warrants criticism. For me the timing was odd which probably suggests that there was something serious that warranted decisive action. If that is so and the more serious rumours we hear are true then AP had to go. If they are not, and AP simply did not like the new structure (which was introduced after he was appointed), it is hard to see how NC is beyond criticism. No boss would welcome a new management structure being put in place around them. If AP went for footballing reasons then NC should have fired the bullet pre season and/or lined up a replacement before getting rid. With all said and done though, NC seems determined to take our club back to the prem. He doesn't seem to give monkeys if he makes a few enemies on the journey. For that I love the fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 The OS statement pointed to Pardew+2 being unable to co-operate with Les Reed's empire. How is firing Pardew a necessary evil? The better/cheaper option would have been to fire Reed. "Following a review of the current status in and around the First Team, the Club has decided that, to achieve its well known targets, it is essential to make changes to the First Team management and coaching. These targets for sustained and significant progress embrace both the First Team and the Football Development & Support Centre as integrated, co-operative units. Consequently, the First Team Manager, Alan Pardew; First Team Coach, Wally Downes; and Goalkeeping Coach, Stuart Murdoch have been relieved of their duties" all les reed management gobbledegook he is an OAF believe me, he has appointed oafs (not MA) and been appointed by a man who is insufferable,blames anybody around him and is a footballing nomark. his handling of the 125 anniversary game,started off with competion with ac milan ajax,filtered down to game against ac,through his many italian contacts!!!!! ended up with arguements with st mirren who turned us down and we had to go cap in hand to sutton!!! 1 reason pre season was poor "the footballing nomark" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 (edited) all les reed management gobbledegook he is an OAF believe me, he has appointed oafs (not MA) and been appointed by a man who is insufferable,blames anybody around him and is a footballing nomark. his handling of the 125 anniversary game,started off with competion with ac milan ajax,filtered down to game against ac,through his many italian contacts!!!!! ended up with arguements with st mirren who turned us down and we had to go cap in hand to sutton!!! 1 reason pre season was poor "the footballing nomark" ooooh I wonder who you really are... (frannie benali) perhaps..? Edited 14 September, 2010 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 all les reed management gobbledegook he is an OAF believe me, So according to you Les Reed is an oaf. What makes you say this? Have you met him? he has appointed oafs (not MA) Sorry, but they are all oaf's now? What? I take it you have met them all? Otherwise, what's the source for your info? and been appointed by a man who is insufferable,blames anybody around him and is a footballing nomark. Right, so Cortese is 'insufferable'? Can I ask where you get this info from? A taxi driver perhaps? Andrew Surman's former hairdresser? his handling of the 125 anniversary game,started off with competion with ac milan ajax,filtered down to game against ac,through his many italian contacts!!!!! ended up with arguements with st mirren who turned us down and we had to go cap in hand to sutton!!! 1 reason pre season was poor "the footballing nomark" Again, what's your source? Where is there any evidence for any of this? Either you are ITK, but with limited typing experience, or you are making up BS to fit an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Leftback obviously has some knowledge and an agenda. I wonder which is stronger. There seem to be a lot of long held TSF accounts out there which have suddenly become active after a three years or so of no posts. Nearly all anti Cortese or 'ITK' (or not). Odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Still playing sunday mornings at 46, does that me an OAF (old age Footballer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Leftback obviously has some knowledge and an agenda. I wonder which is stronger. There seem to be a lot of long held TSF accounts out there which have suddenly become active after a three years or so of no posts. Nearly all anti Cortese or 'ITK' (or not). Odd just watch i will remain inactive again now, but i am in the know......2 more members of staff coming in gk coach and another coach...goodbye wilkins and now i will indeed hibernate again, and watch the oafs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Leftback obviously has some knowledge and an agenda. I wonder which is stronger. There seem to be a lot of long held TSF accounts out there which have suddenly become active after a three years or so of no posts. Nearly all anti Cortese or 'ITK' (or not). Odd Suspicious isn't it. Just putting 2 & 2 together, but leftback reminds me of this quote from one of the people at Cortese's meal: "When they took over, he was surrounded by ex directors, players, sponsors and other hangers on who all wanted something for nothing e.g. former players who wanted to be paid £70k a year to be “ambassadors” - to which NC’s response was “fine, if you bring in £200k”. He has cut down Saints presence in the Board Room hospitality to eight - and has now told away teams they too must restrict their numbers. This was one of mnay examples of how costs are being cut." http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?25114-Cortese-Questions&p=847241#post847241 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 14 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 September, 2010 leftback....Mark Dennis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Hahaha. That's quite timely. A couple on here will pass this thread by and have a little chortle and a told you so moment. Interesting that Leftback describes Reed as an Oaf, probably not that well connected these days then. If he talked to some people in football outside Saints then he would have used more descriptive terms. Still, for a Top Gear style c*ck he has had a damned fine career and has a track record, probably in some people's opinions he lives off that a bit too much. But how interesting that suddenly we see an actual example of someone popping up and having a targetted dig. FWIW gang, batten down the hatches, there's a lot more of this swirling around. My opinion of NC remains that he seems to be a total c*ck but he is OUR c*ck and he wants exactly the same thing that I want - Saints in the CL - Bloody Marvellous. IF and I repeat IF we fnally start moving forwarss again then this will all just fade away as sad disenfranchised people and schemers fade away into their normal lives. But if we stumble again, trust me, this will get worse. IMHO of course and I know sod all from 3,500 miles away obviously, I just watch, read and analyse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 all les reed management gobbledegook he is an OAF believe me, he has appointed oafs (not MA) and been appointed by a man who is insufferable,blames anybody around him and is a footballing nomark. his handling of the 125 anniversary game,started off with competion with ac milan ajax,filtered down to game against ac,through his many italian contacts!!!!! ended up with arguements with st mirren who turned us down and we had to go cap in hand to sutton!!! 1 reason pre season was poor "the footballing nomark" Subtitles? (I can't work out how we got from AC Milan to Sutton from that...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 all les reed management gobbledegook he is an OAF believe me, he has appointed oafs (not MA) and been appointed by a man who is insufferable,blames anybody around him and is a footballing nomark. his handling of the 125 anniversary game,started off with competion with ac milan ajax,filtered down to game against ac,through his many italian contacts!!!!! ended up with arguements with st mirren who turned us down and we had to go cap in hand to sutton!!! 1 reason pre season was poor "the footballing nomark" Ah the no alternative negativity Opinion, how refreshing So you believe that LLS or Mickey Fialka would have made a more suitable Chairman then? Didn't see anyone else actually talking to My Fry with even the merest hint of the possibility of a cheque in their pocket. Or perhaps you advocated the Council owning the Stadium and Mickie & Minnie taking control with a total purchase and investment budget of 4mil? Wouldn't have got us out of L1 any time soon but no doubt plenty of free champers paid for by the poor mugs paying for their tickets (except those clever enough to discover the free ST wheeze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Could someone please clear up the following for me. Are the Cortese Slaters related to the Walford Slaters. and is Kat Cortese Slater the mother of Zoe Cortese Slater or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Could someone please clear up the following for me. Are the Cortese Slaters related to the Walford Slaters. and is Kat Cortese Slater the mother of Zoe Cortese Slater or not. Do they use recycled Slate? Do they prefer Welsh or Cornish Slate? Which has the better thermal dynamics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 You're right, he went missing. Luxury player. That was genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Do they use recycled Slate? Do they prefer Welsh or Cornish Slate? Which has the better thermal dynamics? Bllody hell, Phil. I just wanted to know if she was 'er muvva. Now I've got to get out my Fourier’s law to work out the different thermal dynamics of Welsh and Cornish slate. Top of my head, the formula is (ΔQ/ Δt = λ*S *ΔT/ Δx) I think. Now where did i put that casio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Ah the no alternative negativity Opinion, how refreshing So you believe that LLS or Mickey Fialka would have made a more suitable Chairman then? Didn't see anyone else actually talking to My Fry with even the merest hint of the possibility of a cheque in their pocket. Or perhaps you advocated the Council owning the Stadium and Mickie & Minnie taking control with a total purchase and investment budget of 4mil? Wouldn't have got us out of L1 any time soon but no doubt plenty of free champers paid for by the poor mugs paying for their tickets (except those clever enough to discover the free ST wheeze) Seeing Fialka on SKY was the lowest point in my nearly fifty years of supporting SFC I even thought it may have been better for us to fold instead of having him as Chairman. So I was pleased when Markhus bought the club but the pleasure turned to concern when we were being promised Premier League football within five years. Although it is quite possible for us to achieve the rise to the Premier League nothing is guaranteed Because of the high level of expectation some fans are shocked to be out of the JPT League Cup and in the relegation zone. There have also been some problems with ticketing which have not been explained sufficiently well plus problems with the national press which lead to concerns within the fan base. However I would like Cortese to act in a manner so that the club dont get so much negative press and these type of threads are not posted I think things are improving but Cortese is new to British Football and needs to learn it cannot be expected that he would be a perfect Chairman from day one despite some fans thinking that he was. A few wins in the next month or so will calm things down I dont live in Southampton but in Berkshire where I talk to fans of other clubs and most think there is something really wrong with club at the moment whilst last season they thought we had done really well in nearly getting to the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 ooooh I wonder who you really are... (frannie benali) perhaps..? Is this, by any chance, the much missed and much misaligned StuRomseySaint/Dave Benson Phillips/Penry the mild mannered janitor? It can't be can it? Can it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 I'm fascinated by leftback, too. Just to help the Clouseaus figure out who this might be, here's his full 11-post "body of work" (oldest to newest): howard wilkinson set all that up and Hart came in at the end and managed the team. while getting done for drink driving twice, qpr absolutely scathing about him!!! believr me when i tell you cortese is football ignorant and his toady the football failures reed and hunter and the brighton youth team manager for 8 unsuccessful yrs have really shown their credibility he has no connections in italy,echo found that out with minimal digging. knows a few agents,hence vannucchi hence waigo hence substandard brazilian delve deeper,useless and hated universally,sacked asap by hodgson this is THE most informed comment on here. cortese ruined pre season then compounded it by being there and being absolutely unbearable. t ground staff thoroughly demotivated, the football developement co hesion whatever is full of fa failures who would never have been employed by any pro clubs again. and now the smears have started to be leaked, and all this because the crowd used to sing theres only 1 marcus liebher and pardew pardew give us a wave,and neglect him. appalling little man no chance he hated him because he wanted his signing ...pappa to play or come on. and thats why he walked out after 20 mins at wycombe last year,yes walked out of d box shaking his head and left.thats how much he likes football and how passionate he is about US cortese is (after the jpt wembley and overall superb support) now crowing that he has bought a premier league club in the 3rd tier' date='all true,and that if he wanted to buy a prem league club he would have to shell out £150...£200 mill eg west ham everton blackburn. all he has to do is move it 2 divisions!! what he hasnt taken into account is that he has no clue how to do it,sacking yth coaches analysts kitmen,coaches managers and letting a nomark like Les Read appoint all their replacements. his transfers all involve the same shady Italian agent (vanuuchi guly pappa) guly parachuted in on 9k a week when ceiling is /was 7k for pardew. its a personal business that ML gave him as a gift and if he gets us to the prem he will sell and be gone with the profit. thats fine but at least lets have it right. this isnt the secretive world of banking this is a football club where we deserve some openess. (with his cronies)[/quote'] this man is looked upon as a laughing stock by most proffessionals and would not be appointed by any manager,can squirm into suit jobs when interviewed and talk management gobbledeegook this was the beginning of the nc ap rift. pappa was nc's first signing for the club.Downes got ap to sign antonio, nc saw that as a direct challenge to pappa and would not even discuss signing antonio when it could have been done,(WHILE B ROGERS WAS STILL IN CHARGE AT READING)culminating in cortese walking out of the away fixture at wycombe after 25min shaking his head for all to see.cortese appoints l reed....crap. l reed appoints d burke....crap l reed appoints m hunter...crap ....theres your training ground rift... would have caused a rift anywhere because all 3 are useless,wilkins nailed himself to the new regime, murdoch downes backed the manager and that fellas is why ap murdoch and downes got sacked spot on and this sent cortese over the top with pardew,who was against it, after cortese had a video edited off of you tube and added goals from over 10 yrs ago expecting the staff to watch it and want to sign him. had a fit and then refused any loan signings eg carter who played at barnett and is now in championship and blackman from blackburn (now scoring in spl) who was agreed by both clubs only to be halted by cortese. that is the level of interference any manager will have to deal with. the man is impossible to deal with,oh and to those who had the meal ,he will lie to your face. all les reed management gobbledegook he is an OAF believe me, he has appointed oafs (not MA) and been appointed by a man who is insufferable,blames anybody around him and is a footballing nomark. his handling of the 125 anniversary game,started off with competion with ac milan ajax,filtered down to game against ac,through his many italian contacts!!!!! ended up with arguements with st mirren who turned us down and we had to go cap in hand to sutton!!! 1 reason pre season was poor "the footballing nomark" just watch i will remain inactive again now, but i am in the know......2 more members of staff coming in gk coach and another coach...goodbye wilkins and now i will indeed hibernate again, and watch the oafs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Bllody hell, Phil. I just wanted to know if she was 'er muvva. Now I've got to get out my Fourier’s law to work out the different thermal dynamics of Welsh and Cornish slate. Top of my head, the formula is (ΔQ/ Δt = λ*S *ΔT/ Δx) I think. Now where did i put that casio Well, it's an important piece of missing information, if I decide to come back next year it could determine my choice of Mansion, is it going to cost me less to heat Tiles/Slates/Thatch - after all you guys get so COLD in the winter. Alternatively as is likely I stay here another year, seeing as I am a Celebrity down here, I may just wish to start a new craze by having my roof redone with Slate if it has better cooling properties. The FACTS are a really important decision whether one becomes a Slater or a Thatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 14 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Can anyone find the link to Micky Fialka on Sky - can't find it and never seen it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Well, it's an important piece of missing information, if I decide to come back next year it could determine my choice of Mansion, is it going to cost me less to heat Tiles/Slates/Thatch - after all you guys get so COLD in the winter. Alternatively as is likely I stay here another year, seeing as I am a Celebrity down here, I may just wish to start a new craze by having my roof redone with Slate if it has better cooling properties. The FACTS are a really important decision whether one becomes a Slater or a Thatcher Well, if that is your criteria then I can recommend Slate over Thatching, and Welsh slate as it is well known for being more durable and Welsh slate is generally regarded as the finest slate in the World. My prefered colour and reccomendation to you is Welsh Blue Gray slate. It has recently been used at St Pancreas Station, Buckingham Palace, and Number 10 Downing Street. Based on this, then I believe that Chez Philip of the Dubai, AKA PhilDunRoamin will be in esteemed company. Can you see it now Phil. People will say, '....Whats that over the hill? Is it St Pancreas Station? Kings Cross Station? Buckingham Palace? Number 10 Downing Street? St. Martins College?' 'Nah. It's Phils House!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 Well, if that is your criteria then I can recommend Slate over Thatching, and Welsh slate as it is well known for being more durable and Welsh slate is generally regarded as the finest slate in the World. My prefered colour and reccomendation to you is Welsh Blue Gray slate. It has recently been used at St Pancreas Station, Buckingham Palace, and Number 10 Downing Street. Based on this, then I believe that Chez Philip of the Dubai, AKA PhilDunRoamin will be in esteemed company. Can you see it now Phil. People will say, '....Whats that over the hill? Is it St Pancreas Station? Kings Cross Station? Buckingham Palace? Number 10 Downing Street? St. Martins College?' 'Nah. It's Phils House!' Wow thanks for that. Although an evil part of me seems to wonder if you just showed your hand and that you are now ITK regarding the whole Slating thing. Think I'll go for the Buck Palace approach, simply because we do Metro's down here, not trans and I think people may miss the subtlety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 14 September, 2010 Share Posted 14 September, 2010 oops S****horpe 3 up away from home.....lets hope we can do the same tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 15 September, 2010 Share Posted 15 September, 2010 How can they prove who is writing what though? Even if SWF hand over my email details there is no way of proving who actually logged on and typed the message. They dont need to prove it was you, they can just ban you, then its up to you to prove it wasnt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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