St Marco Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 After reading various posts over the last couple of weeks i have started to notice a sort of shift in some peoples expectations for this season. A few results have not gone our way, had some injuries, players going out on loan etc. It would seem a few now think our squad is not good enough to get promoted this year. So i was wondering just what kind of % of our fanbase thinks this? or does the majority still expect us to get promoted? Maybe the mods could put up a poll with some options like Expectations are: Promotion (including winning playoffs) Get to playoffs (not necessarily winning the playoffs) Mid-table Just avoid a relegation battle Something like that? Me personally my expectations have not changed at all. I still expect promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 top 2...dont care if we get 2nd on the last day...dont care about winning the league..dont care if we go up in 2nd with less points than last year but top 2.. you just know we would blow the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Top !! If we miss out on top then second will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Top 2, like i said start of the season, anything less is a disaster and i am not even going to mention missing out on promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 definitely top two and probably still win it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Promotion , hasn't changed and won't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Considering the resources plowed into the club, anything other than the league title is disappointing. I'm sure however that the disappointment would be short lived if the club went up in 2nd place or through the playoffs. Failure to get promotion is a disastrous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 We'll know more by this time next week. 2 crucial matches. Need 4 points at least from them.Until we've got these 2 out of the way it's impossible to predict our future trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Top six with the sqaud we have now, ask this question again come february 1st and i would like to say automatic promtion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Top two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Top two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 1st place = good for club, excellent for adkins 2nd place = bare minimum for club, very good for adkins Playoffs = not good enough for the club, not bad from adkins Outside playoffs = absolute disaster for the club, poor from adkins Relegation battle = give up The play-offs would be acceptable if we win them and gain promotion. It is the only thing that matters this season and I'm sure the CEO sees it that way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 2nd place = bare minimum for club I'd say bare minimum for the club is a playoff victory. Really don't want to go through that though and nor is it that great considering the resources available to the club relative to those of the other 23 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I expect we will play another football match sometime this season. It seems so long ago now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I'd say bare minimum for the club is a playoff victory. Really don't want to go through that though and nor is it that great considering the resources available to the club relative to those of the other 23 teams. 22 teams, Brighton have Poyet and that gives them a head start on all the others.We should have got him,even if it cost us some of those millions that we're supposed to have and got us a filthy reputation for manager poaching. Wonder if he applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Personally i don't care how we get promotion just that we do. It could be a playoff final vs Yeovil with us scoring an 89th minute goal from a deflected shot off someones ass! As long as we get there then that is all that matters. Adkins inherited a good squad of players. They are averaging a 52% win ratio under his 17 games in charge. That is pretty good. They had a 65% win ratio under Pardews last 17 games (including his 5 this year). That shows the team is good enough to be up there, they should be up there. If they are not then let's face it the manager and players will have underperformed on an epic scale! The xmas period will give us a better idea of where the team is at under Adkins. He will then have a transfer window to plug some of the holes and drop players who are not performing. Whatever happens people will not be able to judge the season on the first 5 games we played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Promotion. That's all I expect and I'm not particularly bothered how it's delivered, so long as it is delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversaint Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Promotion, think we'll seal it with a couple of weeks to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Same as at the start of the season. A playoff place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I think there is going to be a lot of disappointed postees out there come May. I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I expect we will play another football match sometime this season. It seems so long ago now....... You aim your expectations too high Phil...you'll only be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I think there is going to be a lot of disappointed postees out there come May. I hope I am wrong. It will be pretty poor if we dont get at least a play off place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I'd take the play-off's at the moment. I'll be better suited to judge us after January to see if we still have Lallana & Chambo, and to see who we bring in. Can't see us winning the league with 3 crocked strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 7th place, I'm used to disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 modest given our current position, which I consider to be very poor. Hope for play off final victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I think the question is somewhat premature given the significance of the Jan window. However based on PERFORMANCES since Adkins took over, it is true to say that if I were a betting man I would definately not waste my money on a top 2 place and I would think strongly about a bet on a playoff place. We are back to a place where I am not confident of a decent performance and/or a win, so consequently my faith in us getting promoted has dipped considerably since AP departed. I keep in reading on here about how much 'the squad' cost. Well in this league it's not all about the skills (and therefore cost) of the individual - success comes from a great Manager bringing together a cohesive TEAM of players that REALLY believe in his vision and understand how to deliver it. I still don't think that applies to us unfortunately, regardless of the noises made about great team spirit, "opportunities" and all the other spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I think there is going to be a lot of disappointed postees out there come May. I hope I am wrong. Happy xmas Pops... Thanks for helping skinny with the phots....You are a top man Hope we at least get in the play offs.. Santa promised me promotion.. no matter how we go up.. or we go back to the drawing board.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 My expectation is that I get to see us play a home game every other weekend. So far this month I am severely dissapointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Play offs now. Start of the season I was expecting us to rip this league apart but we haven't which is disappointing considering how we finished last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwiz Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 need another striker, wide man & retain Chaplow for the season else I can see play offs only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 I did not expect much when NA was appointed. I have not changed that opinion, and unfortunately can see us still in League 1 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 With the team as they are,i think we will just be outside the play offs with another season stuck in this league. It will all depend on how we strenghen (or if) in Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 We are simply far too inconsistent. On present showing I think we will do well to make the play offs but maybe we can finally get our act together in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Since Adkins has been manager we have gained more points than every team, apart from Brighton, comfortably more in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Fairly obvious top two play-offs are the very very least. No promotiion will mean the loss of key players in the squad and will be a huge step backwards. Having said that, football isn't played on paper and as we already know, it won't be easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Personally i don't care how we get promotion just that we do. It could be a playoff final vs Yeovil with us scoring an 89th minute goal from a deflected shot off someones ass! As long as we get there then that is all that matters. Adkins inherited a good squad of players. They are averaging a 52% win ratio under his 17 games in charge. That is pretty good. They had a 65% win ratio under Pardews last 17 games (including his 5 this year). That shows the team is good enough to be up there, they should be up there. If they are not then let's face it the manager and players will have underperformed on an epic scale! The xmas period will give us a better idea of where the team is at under Adkins. He will then have a transfer window to plug some of the holes and drop players who are not performing. Whatever happens people will not be able to judge the season on the first 5 games we played.[/quote No it does not show this team is good enough - we don't have a vital two players missing that saved our season last year. Without Papa and Antonio we would have finished much worse! So no - you can't compare.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Since Adkins has been manager we have gained more points than every team, apart from Brighton, comfortably more in most cases. Out of interest, as our resident statistician. At this stage last season, how many points did we have and what position were we in? Would allow us to set a sensible expectation for whether a win ration of 52% needs to be improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 For me anything less than promotion either automatically or via playoffs is not acceptable. There absolutely is no excuse for failure this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Promotion. That's all I expect and I'm not particularly bothered how it's delivered, so long as it is delivered. Bang on IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 23 December, 2010 Share Posted 23 December, 2010 Out of interest, as our resident statistician. At this stage last season, how many points did we have and what position were we in? Would allow us to set a sensible expectation for whether a win ration of 52% needs to be improved. After 19 games we were 20th on 19 points (real terms 29 points gained -one more than this season) 12 points from play offs, 20 from 2nd, 26 from top. Remember Oct/Nov/ 1st half of Dec was when we had our great run. Over the remaining games we gained 5 points on play off spot, 7 on 2nd spot, 4 points on top (despite Norwich's great run). This was when people on here moaned we were throwing it away with inconsistency! We are 2 points from 6th, 5 points from 2nd, 8 from top. Therefore catching 2, 5 or even 8 points is quite achieavable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2010 By vital players i assume you mean Waigo and Antonio right? There is no doubt about it the team misses them. But AOC is in my view doing just as good as antonio did. He only scored 3 goals in 28 games don't forget. Alex has scored 4 in 15 games with a large amount of those games being sub apearances. Waigo in my book is the bigger loss but that is only because we haven't got a striker like him in the team. Plus add to that Lambert is not scoring so it makes the situation look worse. So while those 2 going have made the team weaker it isn't by much. If one of our strikers was in form we probably wouldn't even notice they are not here tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 Has to be top two - play offs would be a failure. I would be happy if we went up through the play offs but would feel we sort of got away with it really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 Promotion. That's all I expect and I'm not particularly bothered how it's delivered, so long as it is delivered. No More , No Less ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 (edited) We should be finishing 1st or 2nd, i'm not convinced we will though. We're going to need to see a vast improvement in our away form and we've been lucky enough to have had two away games postponed that will give us a nice run of away games. Some may see this as a negative, but I see it as a positive and an opportunity for NA and the team to banish the away form demons. Napoleon once said "let china sleep for when she awakes the world will tremble". The same applies to us. Now is the time, a golden opportunity, for us to make our rivals tremble. During our Dell days we were always known as a good home team, but crap away, but this isn't completely true. When the chips were down we went to places like Oldham, Norwich, Wimbledon and raised our game and won and stayed up. We now need to see that same spirit return from now til the end of the season. Edited 24 December, 2010 by dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 7th or 8th, the manager will be sacked and we'll be back to square one..... again The Leibherr's will give up NC will bring some investment bankers Everyone will get ****ed off It will be, SOS (Same Old Saints) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 My expectations are the same now, as when I first started to support them in the dawn of time, that is, to see honest football, and be grateful to have a club to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 7th or 8th, the manager will be sacked and we'll be back to square one..... again The Leibherr's will give up NC will bring some investment bankers Everyone will get ****ed off It will be, SOS (Same Old Saints) At which stage in this chain of events does Richard Chorley re-appear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 So far this season it has been: Manager sacked after handful of games without credible explanation. Key staff sacked without credible explanation. Owner dies putting a question mark against the future of the club. Woeful results under caretaker manager. Loads of spin from the Chief Executive. Top scorer in League last season can't score at all this season. Second member of strike force on bail pending GBH charge. Losing at home to the mighty Brentford et al.. Club at loggerheads with the media, mainly over plausible rumours. My expectations for the rest of the season? More of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 24 December, 2010 Share Posted 24 December, 2010 Top 2 at the absolute minimum. A lot has to change though. We peaked too early last year, maybe we will get it just right this year!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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